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4Runner 08-16-07, 01:46 PM H-Hatch - please keep us posted on your channel situation. TWC should know if those channels are SDV you cannot get them via TiVoHD. So if they are trying to figure out why at least there is hope they are not SDV.
I have heard and read so many different stories on which channels are SDV and which are not I'm just not sure what to think. I have read all channels are moving to SDV to only the "not really watched" channels to all new ones. Confusing.
Does anyone have an accurate SDV channel list for TWCSC?
As for the channel unavailable issue, I'm still waiting for the completion of the line service work. I hope to report back next week with a resolution.
4Runner 08-17-07, 08:28 PM Ok - I think I know how to tell if a channel is SDV or not. I went to the diagnostics menu on my SA 8300HD and then hit the page down button on my remote and on page two at the top was SDV Info. It is a screen full of info on it but the key is the freq on that page down towards the bottom left. For SDV channels it will display a freq and for non SDV channels it show 0. Pretty simple. The bad news is I have SDV in Columbia, SC so no TiVoHD for me right now. Can't stand the TWC DVR interface. Oh well, I'm sure it won't be too long before TiVo provides a box that can get SDV.
oceangrace24 08-19-07, 10:47 PM Well, I found out what the problem was with my Channels that were coming in as unavailable and I have fixed it.
It was a splitter that I had installed right before my reciever. I got a splitter that the installer gave me 1 1/2 years ago when I first got my 8300. I split the cable to the 8300 and then straight into my HDTV to use for PIP. I used this method because I like the PIP option on my TV over the DVR..
Anyway, I noticed that the channel unavailable was showing up on some of the digital non-HD channels and I checked the receiver in my bedroom and they were coming in fine, so I knew it had to either be the receiver or the cableing..
I removed the splitter and everything is fine. I know there is a splitter on the outside of the house, so there must be an issue having 2 splitters in line with the 8300 and using SDV..
4Runner 08-20-07, 11:56 AM The tech that came to my house just said sometimes the splitters go bad. You should be able to pick up a new splitter and not have an issue. I still tune into ESPN2HD and get channel unavailable while other times it comes in. Going to call TWC mid week to check status on line repair if I still have the problem.
h_hatch 08-20-07, 02:35 PM The tech I had on Friday ran some signal tests and said the signal at my TiVo was marginal. Everything tested fine at the street and the junction on the side of the house. He began telling me that all of my wiring needed to be replaced, etc. My house is unfortunately daisy-chained. I asked if he would check the signal at the very beginning in the attic. The same tests that ran marginal came back failed at that point. Two splitters closer and 100 feet of cable and things go worse. That I do not understand, but we ran a new feed from the side of the house to the attic for now. I wanted to get a second cable card installed while they changed the Host ID on my current one. He had a card but the home office would not allow him to install it. I had to make another appointment for this week. The tech on the phone decided to not change my Host ID citing it would be easier to do both at once on Friday. Easier for who? At any rate, I took my TiVo and connected it directly to the new wire and got the same results as always. I am not convinced that my wiring is causing the issues. We will see what happens this Friday.
mb2foru at aol 08-20-07, 09:44 PM from cruising this thread, is it safe to say that a QAM tuner is near useless for TWCSC? Seems like folks aren't receiving anything.
The channels are encrypted so a QAM or 8VSB tuner will do you no good on the cable and there are several reasons for this.
mb2foru at aol 08-20-07, 09:53 PM The tech I had on Friday ran some signal tests and said the signal at my TiVo was marginal. Everything tested fine at the street and the junction on the side of the house. He began telling me that all of my wiring needed to be replaced, etc. My house is unfortunately daisy-chained. I asked if he would check the signal at the very beginning in the attic. The same tests that ran marginal came back failed at that point. Two splitters closer and 100 feet of cable and things go worse. That I do not understand, but we ran a new feed from the side of the house to the attic for now. I wanted to get a second cable card installed while they changed the Host ID on my current one. He had a card but the home office would not allow him to install it. I had to make another appointment for this week. The tech on the phone decided to not change my Host ID citing it would be easier to do both at once on Friday. Easier for who? At any rate, I took my TiVo and connected it directly to the new wire and got the same results as always. I am not convinced that my wiring is causing the issues. We will see what happens this Friday.
Tech is right, daisy chained outlets in digital world are a huge no no and will will cause many mnay problems, signal loss, for both forward and excessive return path loss. The in band channel responce after going through several splitters will cause problems. Also houses wired in daisy chain config also have poor quality wire used with low shielding, RG59 instead of RG6 so loss per 100 ft adds up fast especially at the higher freq digital channels. Poorly installed connectors in this config add standing wave, responce issues again, impedance mismatch, ingress and return loss. Home run wiring is a must these days anything else is asking for problems.
mikepaul 08-21-07, 12:59 PM Well, I found out what the problem was with my Channels that were coming in as unavailable and I have fixed it.
It was a splitter that I had installed right before my reciever. I got a splitter that the installer gave me 1 1/2 years ago when I first got my 8300. I split the cable to the 8300 and then straight into my HDTV to use for PIP. I used this method because I like the PIP option on my TV over the DVR..
Anyway, I noticed that the channel unavailable was showing up on some of the digital non-HD channels and I checked the receiver in my bedroom and they were coming in fine, so I knew it had to either be the receiver or the cableing..
I removed the splitter and everything is fine. I know there is a splitter on the outside of the house, so there must be an issue having 2 splitters in line with the 8300 and using SDV..
Yea, but...
Shouldn't they ALWAYS support a signal strong enough to be split, or is that just a remnant of a by-gone era? I went through this recently, where they eventually fixed the issue up the line and my split equipment went back into working order showing the missing Flix and Cinemax channels.
If they made an announcement (or did I miss it?) that all splitters are forbidden I'd understand, but when it comes and goes then they blame my splitter instead of a line problem, I get mad. Once it's fixed, it's a random interval until my splitter, I mean their signal strength, screws up again.
Darn it...
4Runner 08-22-07, 09:06 AM Here in Columbia, they are not indicating an issue with splitters. In fact, my splitter is in the attic with my amplifier. Tech checked it out on the initial visit. It seems to me the first check splitters to see if that is the problem and if so, a quick splitter replacement is the resolution.
TWCSC called yesterday to see if I was working and I wasn't. Turns out, the line crew hadn't made it to my area just yet. Rep said it will be sometime today. Luckily we don't have to home. I hope to have my issue resolved today. Fingers crossed.
FYI - I have been looking at the service menus some more on my 8300HD, and found every channel that reports "Channel Unavailable" the signal is a -20db. It is like that is the limit of the scale or something…just pegs to -20. Anyway, I turn to a "good" channel and the signal is -14 or better. I’m pretty sure every channel at issue is SDV but I’m not sure if all my SDV channels are at issue. I should have analyzed that a bit more.
mikepaul 08-22-07, 03:34 PM Here in Columbia, they are not indicating an issue with splitters. In fact, my splitter is in the attic with my amplifier. Tech checked it out on the initial visit. It seems to me the first check splitters to see if that is the problem and if so, a quick splitter replacement is the resolution.
I just use the little Radio Shack 2- and 3-way splitters right at each split point since I don't have anything better, so if they aren't 'good' enough anymore I have no fallback. I'm pretty sure I could do better buying new lower-resistance ones, but to lay in a supply now and then have splitting become completely useless via a permanent signal drop would suck.
It's just that I still have a VCR in a DVR age, and I have a USB TV tuner that can only attach to the same line as the cable modem, and I don't want to run a bunch of extra lines through the walls from wherever TWC could reliably split my service some more. If they could do it reliably. Odds are I'd need more service calls for more lost channels the day after that...
4Runner 08-22-07, 06:52 PM I think that is fine. I was just told sometimes they (splitters) go bad. I would then just a buy a new one and give it a try. Didn't mean to imply you need a fancy one.
Update - I'm back in business!!!! TWCSC came out today and took care of the problem. My signal on all channels now is between -8 and -6....so much improved from my -20 (channel unavailable ones) to -14. Way to go TWC!!!
kevinivey 08-22-07, 09:54 PM Two new boxes are being used here in Columbia. Last week I picked up a 4250HDC. There is also a new dvr called 8300HDC, and it can record as many as 6 programs at a time(not confirmed yet, but was told this by a TWC Tech.)Both boxes contain Multistream Cable Cards. Thought some my find this interesting.
4Runner 08-23-07, 08:51 PM Multistream cards? Do you know which brand? I have an outstanding question with TWC about brands and single vs multi stream cards and they are researching.
kevinivey 08-24-07, 03:52 AM there in the SA boxes, and are SA branded.
wdbarnum 08-25-07, 11:08 AM Does anybody know if the SATA port on the back has been enabled by TWC so we can add an additional (and external) hard drive to the SA 8300HDC?
kevinivey 08-25-07, 08:34 PM I don't believe anyone here has a 8300HDC, but I have been using a eSata dirve on my 8300HD for over 2 years,
gail2magic 08-27-07, 02:52 PM Wish TWSC would get on the ball and add more HD channels. Time Warner in San Antonio, TX where my brother lives have had Cinemax and Starz HD for over a year along with the ones we have.
toadfannc 08-27-07, 02:59 PM Wish TWSC would get on the ball and add more HD channels. Time Warner in San Antonio, TX where my brother lives have had Cinemax and Starz HD for over a year along with the ones we have.
Bro, consider yourself lucky. Here in NC, we don't have those or A&EHD and Golf/Versus HD (I believe you have these 2). Good ol TWC-- giving you the least amount possible.
gail2magic 08-27-07, 03:07 PM It really does get discouraging. You pay all the money to get an amazing tv and then can't take advantage of all the channels out there. Another reason I miss Diana...she worked so hard to get us more. I doubt she was ever paid all she was worth.
I really am glad that we do have what we have. Hopefully you will be getting some new ones soon too - at least catch up with what we have or better. It still amazes me how I now watch programs I usually would not have watched but if they are in HD...why not lol.
Looked on the TimeWarner San Antonio page and they do get 2 HB0 and 2 Showtime like we do but also 2 Cinemax, 2 Starz and 1 Movie Channel.
mikepaul 08-28-07, 12:42 PM Looked on the TimeWarner San Antonio page and they do get 2 HB0 and 2 Showtime like we do but also 2 Cinemax, 2 Starz and 1 Movie Channel.
Well, the last excuse I heard was Cinemax around here didn't have the audience that Showtime or HBO did, so the bandwidth for Max-HD couldn't be justified.
BUT if The Movie Channel is provided to all Showtime customers there like it is here, then they are just screwing with us by not having TMC-HD here, and the whole bandwidth excuse is just more of it. They could fix it, but choose not to.
Maybe we'll get HD when HD is all there is, but maybe not...
singitloud 08-28-07, 04:05 PM Does anyone know when TWC is incorporating the new guide that I heard/read about on this thread?
Also, as a parent of three boys, one thing I HATE about our current guide is that I am unable to customize my guide so as to not be forced to see the adult channels on the guide.
My sons, my wife and myself are forced to see titles that are just inappropriate (sometimes even rather explicit) and of course boys will be boys and after months and months of seeing the titles, they get curious.
Anyway - when I go to the HD stations I direct input 802 so I don't have to see the stations just below 800, but I still wish I could customize the guides like I could when I had DISH NETWORK.
Will the new guide allow this?
TechMan 08-29-07, 02:20 AM Posting an article for thoes interested in adding an Esata drive to their 8300 DVRs.
Expand Your SA8300HD PVR’s Storage Capacity
Tuesday, 06 June 2006
The Scientific Atlanta Explorer 8300HD is a high definition, two-tuner personal video recorder (DVR) that is currently being marketed by cable companies throughout North America. The unit has been well received by Digital Home members and a common complaint is that it can only record about 20 hours of high-definition programming.
This article from one of Digital Home's most well regarded members will explain how you can quickly and cheaply add additional recording capacity to your SA 8300HD PVR.
Adding an External Hard Drive to your SA 8300HD
Although many people are happy with the storage capacity of their PVRs, some people require more storage. This can certainly come in handy if you wish to keep some of your favourite programming on the PVR for demonstration purposes, or a bit of archiving, or if you are going on vacation and need to record more programming that you normally do before getting a chance to watch it.
Increased storage capacity will become increasingly important as more programming becomes available in HD. HD programming requires roughly five times the storage of SD programming. The SA8300HD PVR can currently record about 20 hours of HD programming on its 160 GB Hard Disk Drive (HDD). A few HD sports events and a few HD movies and you’re starting to push the limits of the drive.
Although it’s possible to add additional capacity to a number of different PVRs, this article is specific to the Scientific Atlanta 8300 series PVRs.
If you have an SA8300HD PVR close to capacity then here is how you can add an external drive via the SATA port on the back of the unit. SATA is an acronym for Serial Advanced Technology Attachment and is the latest in a series of connections for HDDs.
What You'll Need
It’s fairly easy to purchase the HDD, cable and enclosure for the HDD, however, one must take care to purchase the appropriate equipment. That equipment is outlined below:
An external SATA I drive, 7200 RPM is recommended, 133 MB/sec is recommended.
An enclosure for the drive. Various people use various enclosures, but in addition to housing the drive, the enclosure should also be designed to keep the drive cool, since heat is an enemy of electronics. Metal enclosures with fans are usually the coolest.
A SATA II (also called e-SATA) to SATA 1 cable is required. A SATA I to SATA I cable that comes with most enclosures will NOT work. (Some drive enclosures do come with the appropriate SATA II to SATA I cable.)
Installation
Once you have all your equipment, you need to install it. Here are the guidelines for that installation:
Make all connections to the SA8300HD while the SA8300HD is unplugged. (Unplug it when you know that you don’t have any scheduled recordings). Wait for the “ready” light on the new HDD. Sometimes the SATA cable may require a small “trim” to make it fit into the plug. Once you have the drive connected, you should also not turn it off, or disconnect it, without again unplugging the SA8300HD itself.
You need to plug the drive into an outlet that has continuous power. DO NOT connect the drive to a switched outlet or a power bar that you switch on/off. If the drive turns off during recording, you can lose the recording, and perhaps even damage the drive. Do not plug the drive into the electrical outlet on the SA8300HD because the drive should be “ready” when you boot the SA8300HD and that’s not possible if you plug it into the SA8300HD itself.
Power up the SA8300HD and wait for it to boot to the time display. It should then ask if you want to format the drive.
Press the yellow triangle to proceed/confirm. Wait for formatting to finish and power cycle the STB again.
After it finishes booting for the second time, turn it on and there will be a message saying the external drive was recognized as well as a warning not to turn the power off to the drive. You should be all set to go. You can confirm the additional HDD space by viewing the “fuel gauge” indicating the remaining space. It should have increased dramatically from before.
Disconnecting your External Drive
If you wish to disconnect the drive from the SA8300HD, you need to follow the following steps:
Power off the SA8300HD. Unplug it. Wait for a few seconds.
Disconnect the power from the HDD and disconnect the cable.
Plug the SA8300HD back in and power it up. If you disconnected the external HDD improperly, you may get an error message.
Other Important Information:
1. The list of your recordings is stored on the internal drive of the SA8300HD. If you have disconnected the external HDD, you will not be able to view those programmes stored on the external drive, obviously.
2. The recordings are balanced between the internal and external drive. Any “new” recording will always go to the drive that has more space available. Individual recordings are not “split” between the internal and external drives.
3. People have installed external drives up to 400 GB. Although larger drives are available, they have not been “proven” in this application. Also they are quite expensive.
kevinivey 08-29-07, 04:49 AM Been using an external drive for over 2 years.
TechMan 08-30-07, 02:57 AM That's great to hear,me too. I posted the install instruction for the newbies who might find they're running out of space with all the football and fall TV shows in HD that will be on in a few weeks.
Two new boxes are being used here in Columbia. Last week I picked up a 4250HDC. There is also a new dvr called 8300HDC, and it can record as many as 6 programs at a time(not confirmed yet, but was told this by a TWC Tech.)Both boxes contain Multistream Cable Cards. Thought some my find this interesting.
I think you got hosed on that 6 program recording. 8300HDC won't allow even channel change when recording 2 programs unless to the other recording, same as my 8300HD. 2 recordings is all I can get going, unless there is some trick I haven't found. Otherwise, I see nothing different beyond many more pages in the diagnostics dealing with Cablecard.
SA website says dual tuning, dual recording for 8300HDC.:(
Hi guys. I just bought the Samsung HL-55679W from Amazon a few wks ago so I'm new to HD and really loving it. Great to find this thread for Columbia.
Anyway, my question: I did a search on this thread for "firewire" and found a post from about a yr ago by Diana at TWC and she wrote that the firewire on the 8300HD was active. Is that still the case?
Thanks,
Harold
TechMan 09-02-07, 03:07 AM The firewire connections on all version of the 8300HD (PVR Included) are functional. DHCP is also enforced on subscription channels, not local (effects DVHS Recorders).Should look as good as HDMI.
kevinivey 09-02-07, 01:25 PM Tuning in ESPN2HD next Saturday after 5 may become a problem. In other words if you can manage to tune it , you might not want to change the channel.:eek:
Tuning in ESPN2HD next Saturday after 5 may become a problem. In other words if you can manage to tune it , you might not want to change the channel.:eek:
OK, I'll bite. Why?
That channel is switched and I can't get it using my cable cards as it is.
wdbarnum 09-03-07, 12:20 PM Techman, thank-you for the info on the additional SATA drive and the firewire info.
mikepaul 09-04-07, 09:56 AM Tuning in ESPN2HD next Saturday after 5 may become a problem. In other words if you can manage to tune it , you might not want to change the channel.:eek:
You think we'll see an overload where latecomers won't get to see the USC game?
If there are issues, will we see a fix for later or just a bunch of 'bandwidth' excuses?...
IrmoGamecoq 09-07-07, 09:46 AM Tuning in ESPN2HD next Saturday after 5 may become a problem. In other words if you can manage to tune it , you might not want to change the channel.:eek:
So, do you suggest we camp out on the channel early on and don't leave it?
It's just scaremongering crap.
singitloud 09-07-07, 06:23 PM I have cable connected directly to my HDTV...
One of the FIRST things I notice is the difference in channel line-ups.
Is there a channel line up somewhere that includes digital stations?
I tried several searches to no avail.
Thanks.
kevinivey 09-07-07, 08:30 PM [QUOTE=wdbarnum;11507476]Techman, thank-you for the info on the additional SATA drive and the firewire info.[/QUO
kevinivey 09-07-07, 08:32 PM It's just scaremongering crap.
still an ole grump I see...:rolleyes:
kevinivey 09-07-07, 08:34 PM So, do you suggest we camp out on the channel early on and don't leave it?
Gary seems to think It will be no problem. So, if you can't tune it in , perhaps you should contact him. Maybe, he will post his number.:p
Still waiting for that first phone number request. What a joke. ;)
TechMan 09-09-07, 01:43 AM I have cable connected directly to my HDTV...
One of the FIRST things I notice is the difference in channel line-ups.
Is there a channel line up somewhere that includes digital stations?
I tried several searches to no avail.
Thanks.
TWC QAM TV Channels For Columbia:
WACH 69.3
WIS 69.26
WRLK HD 100.1
WIS Weather Now 101.42
WRLK ETV 102.19
SC Channel 102.21
WLTX-SD 103.2
WLTX-HD 103.4
WOLO-HD 103.63
WLTX-Weather 103.8
Music Choice 101.50-101.96
bdfox18doe 09-09-07, 07:40 AM TWC QAM TV Channels For Columbia:
Music Choice 101.50-101.96
ENCRYPTED here...:(
Does anybody know if the Panthers-Rams game is in HD today? The TWC menu doesn't indicate that it is, but on HDSportsguide.com it says it is in HD.
Thanks,
Harold
Look here (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=902266).
Excellent! Thanks Gary.
H
IrmoGamecoq 09-09-07, 01:18 PM The game came through at my house...even with some flipping around. I did get some weird freeze-frame stuff going on though...it seemed to have a lot of trouble with the "ESPN" graphics in particular. Every time those would come up (usually right before a instant replay) it would "freeze" for a few seconds and then right itself. A few times the audio would sound like reverb too. Anybody else get any of that?
Of course, considering the content...I was very pleased with the broadcast. :D Go Cocks!
courier72 09-09-07, 02:24 PM The game came through at my house...even with some flipping around. I did get some weird freeze-frame stuff going on though...it seemed to have a lot of trouble with the "ESPN" graphics in particular. Every time those would come up (usually right before a instant replay) it would "freeze" for a few seconds and then right itself. A few times the audio would sound like reverb too. Anybody else get any of that?
Of course, considering the content...I was very pleased with the broadcast. :D Go Cocks!
Yep, almost every time the large, center screen ESPN graphic was used, the video would freeze. Not sure if that was a as issue coming from SDV or a feed issue from ESPN. The stats screen didn't indicate any errors.
singitloud 09-09-07, 08:59 PM TECHMAN wrote: TWC QAM TV Channels For Columbia:
WACH 69.3
WIS 69.26
WRLK HD 100.1
WIS Weather Now 101.42
WRLK ETV 102.19
SC Channel 102.21
WLTX-SD 103.2
WLTX-HD 103.4
WOLO-HD 103.63
WLTX-Weather 103.8
Music Choice 101.50-101.96
Thank you SO MUCH!!!
That covers the digital spectrum - thanks.
TechMan 09-10-07, 02:00 AM NEW KID IN TOWN:
WKTC-DT (My Network) Channel 63-1 (39) is showing up OTA (704X480 16:9) as of Sunday night. Might want do a channel scan and add them to your channels if your a antenna user. I have to see if cable has added then in QAM yet.
IrmoGamecoq 09-10-07, 09:07 AM Yep, almost every time the large, center screen ESPN graphic was used, the video would freeze. Not sure if that was a as issue coming from SDV or a feed issue from ESPN. The stats screen didn't indicate any errors.
Yes, that's exactly what I was referring to in my post above. Thanks, at least I know it wasn't something on my end.
ncxcstud 09-11-07, 08:01 AM Yes, that's exactly what I was referring to in my post above. Thanks, at least I know it wasn't something on my end.
Nothing like that at all over on D*'s end...
Mark Paquette 09-11-07, 09:44 AM Can anyone tell me which programming package I need from TWC to get only these channels? I currently have the SA HD-DVR from TWC, but am considering switching to Directv. I'm out in the Gilbert area and I think I'm a bit too far away to pick up the locals with an attic antenna. So my option are, wait for DTV to add Columbia digital channels or get the bare minimum from TWC that allows me to continue getting digital locals. Thanks!
TECHMAN wrote: TWC QAM TV Channels For Columbia:
WACH 69.3
WIS 69.26
WRLK HD 100.1
WIS Weather Now 101.42
WRLK ETV 102.19
SC Channel 102.21
WLTX-SD 103.2
WLTX-HD 103.4
WOLO-HD 103.63
WLTX-Weather 103.8
Music Choice 101.50-101.96
Thank you SO MUCH!!!
That covers the digital spectrum - thanks.
kevinivey 09-11-07, 05:46 PM Nothing like that at all over on D*'s end...
Wrong, I watched it over at a friend's house via D* and noticed exactly the same graphic lockup. It was a Espn issue.
kevinivey 09-11-07, 05:52 PM Can anyone tell me which programming package I need from TWC to get only these channels? I currently have the SA HD-DVR from TWC, but am considering switching to Directv. I'm out in the Gilbert area and I think I'm a bit too far away to pick up the locals with an attic antenna. So my option are, wait for DTV to add Columbia digital channels or get the bare minimum from TWC that allows me to continue getting digital locals. Thanks!
you can get HD locals via TWCSC with a Analog subscription and the HD DVR, but they most likely tell you it can't be done. Ask, to speak to a supervisor. They will install a filter that will block analog channels above 13.
ncxcstud 09-11-07, 06:21 PM Wrong, I watched it over at a friend's house via D* and noticed exactly the same graphic lockup. It was a Espn issue.
I watched the game...I never noticed anything like that at all. No freezing video at all, during any portion of the game.
TechMan 09-12-07, 02:59 AM Can anyone tell me which programming package I need from TWC to get only these channels? I currently have the SA HD-DVR from TWC, but am considering switching to Directv. I'm out in the Gilbert area and I think I'm a bit too far away to pick up the locals with an attic antenna. So my option are, wait for DTV to add Columbia digital channels or get the bare minimum from TWC that allows me to continue getting digital locals. Thanks!
All you need is a HDTV/SDTV/EDTV or a HD Tuner(Set Top Box or USB/PC Card) with an ATSC tuner with QAM supported and a basic TWC connection. Local Channels are free for now!
I like the Samsung HD Tuner (DTB-H260F) , it works well, even has HDMI out.
Mark Paquette 09-12-07, 09:12 AM Excellent. My TV has an ATSC tuner with QAM. I guess I should plug the cable directly into it and see what happens. So beyond that, basic cable will do the trick, eh?
All you need is a HDTV/SDTV/EDTV or a HD Tuner(Set Top Box or USB/PC Card) with an ATSC tuner with QAM supported and a basic TWC connection. Local Channels are free for now!
I like the Samsung HD Tuner (DTB-H260F) , it works well, even has HDMI out.
mikepaul 09-13-07, 08:26 AM I couldn't tune in ESPN-HD 950 last night during the game, but the SD ESPN was there. Then after the game 950 was back.
If not a SDV issue, what was it?...
I am completely new to this board and to the world of HD. I found a great deal on a television at Sams the other day and would like to use it for HD, including locals which Dish does not offer around here. Anyone using an antenna in Irmo to get OTA HD? I am just curious whether I need an outdoor antenna on the roof/pole or whether something in the attic or inside should be sufficeint. All I can find indicates I am about 25 miles from the towers. Any real world experiences of what has and has not worked will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Mark Paquette 09-13-07, 02:45 PM I am by no means an expert, but I'm thinking that with a distance of 25 miles, you'll want something at least in the attic. When I lived in Michigan I used a small TV top style antenna in the attic to pull in Toledo digital stations at a distance of about 12 miles.
I currently live about 33 miles away from the broadcast towers in Columbia. I'm going to try a large directional antenna in my attic. Hopefully that does the trick.
ncxcstud 09-13-07, 05:49 PM I live about 35 miles from the towers in Columbia and I use an indoor antenna and get a signal strength of 85-95 on CBS, FOX, PBS, and NBC and about 65-70 on ABC.
I use this (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2131034&cp=2032057.2032187.2032189.2032204&fbn=Type%2FHDTV&f=PAD%2FProduct+Type%2FHDTV&fbc=1&parentPage=family) radio shack antenna positioned at a window.
It may be the luck of the draw that my house faces towards the antennas from lexington. But, I've had no need for a large roof antenna or attic antenna...
bdfox18doe 09-13-07, 06:04 PM [QUOTE=ncxcstud;11614648]about 65-70 on ABC.... radio shack antenna positioned at a window.[QUOTE]
DANG.. good to know..:)
Mark Paquette 09-13-07, 07:19 PM No kidding? I figured with all of the hills and trees I'd be lucky to get a signal with a large attic antenna.
I live about 35 miles from the towers in Columbia and I use an indoor antenna and get a signal strength of 85-95 on CBS, FOX, PBS, and NBC and about 65-70 on ABC.
I use this (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2131034&cp=2032057.2032187.2032189.2032204&fbn=Type%2FHDTV&f=PAD%2FProduct+Type%2FHDTV&fbc=1&parentPage=family) radio shack antenna positioned at a window.
It may be the luck of the draw that my house faces towards the antennas from lexington. But, I've had no need for a large roof antenna or attic antenna...
ncxcstud 09-13-07, 09:22 PM about 65-70 on ABC.... radio shack antenna positioned at a window.
DANG.. good to know..:)
Yeah, I was pretty surprised too...especially since it's a VHF channel...
Though, i've told my wife, I'm the ONLY one allowed to clean that area...so at least I can put it back in the same spot, lol.
I have a little 'system' to it and everything with the window blinds. I've taped paper to the wall for the exact spot that gives me the best reception for all stations.
ABC used to come in at like 40-50...but, it seems to have picked up some power and it's now hitting consistently at 65-70 on both DirecTV and my Samsung TV tuners.
I use this (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2131034&cp=2032057.2032187.2032189.2032204&fbn=Type%2FHDTV&f=PAD%2FProduct+Type%2FHDTV&fbc=1&parentPage=family) radio shack antenna positioned at a window.
Thanks for the suggestion. I may run over there and see what they have in stock to give it a try. I really don't want an outdoor antenna if I can help it. I looked on antennaweb and everything comes up in the yellow, so hopefully it will be relatively painless. I guess if an indoor does not work, I may try one in the attic before I resort to outside. Thanks again for the suggestion.
bdfox18doe 09-14-07, 08:49 AM Yeah, I was pretty surprised too...especially since it's a VHF channel....
Yea, it's a bit small of an antenna for VHF.. So far, no antenna design no matter how fancy has been able to overcome the laws of physics.
I use a Square Shooter on my chimney here and get all the locals. I think I'll get one of these rat shaq one's and put it up on the chimney as a test one day to see how well it compares. The only VHF here is PBS on Ch-11.
I am completely new to this board and to the world of HD. I found a great deal on a television at Sams the other day and would like to use it for HD, including locals which Dish does not offer around here. Anyone using an antenna in Irmo to get OTA HD?
Thanks.
I live in Irmo off Colstream Drive. I have a Square Shooter type antenna. PBS comes in at 100 signal strength. WIS is in the 90s, WLTX is in the high 60s, WOLO in the the 60s, and I can barely get FOX, I have to watch them in SD of the SAT.
David
I live in Irmo off Colstream Drive. I have a Square Shooter type antenna. PBS comes in at 100 signal strength. WIS is in the 90s, WLTX is in the high 60s, WOLO in the the 60s, and I can barely get FOX, I have to watch them in SD of the SAT.
David
I am close to Ballentine. Do you have the square shooter mounted off the roof, on a chimney, or in the attic? I have looked at it as a possibility if I have to go with an outdoor. Do you have the actual square shooter or another type? Thanks.
I'm in Irmo here and have a Silver Sensor antenna. I get all the stations reliably except Fox which is spotty at best. I'm sure if I went with the outdoor antenna then things would be better, but it's no big deal right now for me.
I am close to Ballentine. Do you have the square shooter mounted off the roof, on a chimney, or in the attic? I have looked at it as a possibility if I have to go with an outdoor. Do you have the actual square shooter or another type? Thanks.
I have a Terk Slim Profile, which resembles the Square Shooter. It's mounted on the outside of my 3 story house, near the roof. I had an electrician mount it and ground it properly. I have many tall trees around, I'm curious to see if reception improves when the leaves drop.
I mostly watch NBC, CBS and PBS, and I get good reception on those channels.
ncxcstud 09-15-07, 09:17 AM Sounds like a few people should at least try out the Radio Shack antenna :). Heck, if it doesn't work, just take it back and get your money back for it :)
Sounds like a few people should at least try out the Radio Shack antenna :). Heck, if it doesn't work, just take it back and get your money back for it :)
That is my plan for tomorrow. I hope to find one and give it a shot. If not, I will have to figure out whether to go outside or the attic. At least it is a little cooler so I won't die up in the attic or outside for that matter.
steveosevo 09-16-07, 05:03 PM Let me know how it goes. I am in the process of dropping TWC to go to OTA HD but not sure what kind of antenna I need. I am willing to buy one to put on the house or in the attic.
I'm also in the IRMO, SC area.
I am using an antenna just down stairs and can get 1 maybe 2 channels.
PHRoberts 09-16-07, 10:59 PM Has anyone noticed a problem watching NBC Sunday Night Football? It looks like the focus goes from spot on to about 90% pretty often. I notice it more looking at the graphics at the bottom of the screeen - but I think it's the entire picture. I have noticed this for a while, even sometimes last year, but it's especially bad tonight...
I'm watching this on TWC through a S/A 8300HD convertor. Any ideas? Too much compression? I only notice it on this channel and then only on SNF - but that's about all we watch on NBC except Lost :D
Heath
guatedad 09-16-07, 11:40 PM I notice the picture loses focus or fades a touch from time to time on all of the local channels. Fox does it the least and since they don't multicast I was wondering if mulitcasting is the problem. It is annoying to watch OTA in Columbia when the picture fades or loses focus intermittently. I get constant 90's on WIS, 100 on WLTX and even pick up Fox pretty well with my Radio Shack attic antenna. I should not be having this problem. Any ideas to what I and previous poster are describing?
TechMan 09-17-07, 12:07 AM Sound like what your describing could be bit shaving, local stations use a Harris FlexiCoder system to process there video almost like a Variable Bit Rate audio file. It's stealing a litte from the main stream to feed the sub-channels. The bluring is what happens when the encoder is over compressing or is flooded with a large amout of image data. Hopefuly when this becomes their primary form of broadcasting they rethink sub-channels VS HD quality.
ncxcstud 09-17-07, 07:17 AM Has anyone noticed a problem watching NBC Sunday Night Football? It looks like the focus goes from spot on to about 90% pretty often. I notice it more looking at the graphics at the bottom of the screeen - but I think it's the entire picture. I have noticed this for a while, even sometimes last year, but it's especially bad tonight...
I'm watching this on TWC through a S/A 8300HD convertor. Any ideas? Too much compression? I only notice it on this channel and then only on SNF - but that's about all we watch on NBC except Lost :D
Heath
Then you only watch SNF on NBC because Lost is an ABC show :)
guatedad 09-17-07, 08:37 AM The locals will never give up the sub channels because they sell advertising on them. I would like to think in the future they will have enough HDTV juice to provide a clean signal for all of their channels. I guess there is nothing I can do right now is there?
bdfox18doe 09-17-07, 09:08 AM The locals will never give up the sub channels because they sell advertising on them.
FYi..WOLO derives NO advertising from subchannels.
PHRoberts 09-17-07, 11:18 AM Then you only watch SNF on NBC because Lost is an ABC show :)
You know, you're right! I guess it's Law and Order that we watch on NBC. And I guess I was one of about 10 people that watched a few episodes of The Black Donnellys.
I actually called WIS and left a voicemail... we'll see if I get a response.
Thanks!
Heath
kevinivey 09-17-07, 07:08 PM Ya'll do release that in 09' it will get even worse.
LexHiDef 09-17-07, 07:28 PM Has anyone noticed a problem watching NBC Sunday Night Football? It looks like the focus goes from spot on to about 90% pretty often. I notice it more looking at the graphics at the bottom of the screeen - but I think it's the entire picture. I have noticed this for a while, even sometimes last year, but it's especially bad tonight...
I'm watching this on TWC through a S/A 8300HD convertor. Any ideas? Too much compression? I only notice it on this channel and then only on SNF - but that's about all we watch on NBC except Lost :D
Heath
I've noticed the same thing. It was happening last year and it seemed worse on NBC than most other channels.
guatedad 09-17-07, 10:01 PM FYi..WOLO derives NO advertising from subchannels.
Then why doesn't WOLO drop the sub channel during HDTV broadcasts so we don't have to watch a weak signal? The sub channels are killing local HDTV quality across the country.
TechMan 09-18-07, 02:48 AM 720p stations have a little more in their stream space to play with, but 1080i can't afford all those bits being stolen from it. Quality also has a lot to do with the quality of reprocessing of the network feed that is done at WIS,WLTX,PBS to make room for the sub channels.
Hey Bob. Do you even re-encode the network stream? WOLO always look pretty good to me.
bdfox18doe 09-18-07, 07:50 AM Then why doesn't WOLO drop the sub channel during HDTV broadcasts so we don't have to watch a weak signal? The sub channels are killing local HDTV quality across the country.
Operationally, that isn't feasable due to our intertstate transport configuration and can cause problems with the receivers when streams are changed as such. WOLO runs the HD at 14mb/s,(if the encoder deems it necessary, and not base don subchannels). I doubt most of you would be able to tell the difference between 14 and 17 mb/s with 720p.
Techman, as to your question, ABC's HD is delivered to us at 35mb/s. We take that to HD-SDI, switch, it and re-encode at 14mb/s. And, yes it looks pretty good, but will look better within the year when we transition to newer
higher efficiency encoders.:)
As to "reprocessing" those on cable should put up an outdoor antenna and do A/B comparisons with all the stations. Then make your decision as to which looks better.;)
mikepaul 09-18-07, 08:26 AM Does anyone know when WACH-HD will get rid of those vertical lines in everything coming directly from them?
The HD football game the other day looked OK, but all local stuff (then and last night) has had lines for a long time, and it's darn annoying. SD channel looks a lot better...
guatedad 09-18-07, 09:33 AM Has anyone noticed a problem watching NBC Sunday Night Football? It looks like the focus goes from spot on to about 90% pretty often. I notice it more looking at the graphics at the bottom of the screeen - but I think it's the entire picture. I have noticed this for a while, even sometimes last year, but it's especially bad tonight...
I'm watching this on TWC through a S/A 8300HD convertor. Any ideas? Too much compression? I only notice it on this channel and then only on SNF - but that's about all we watch on NBC except Lost :D
Heath
Bob,
Thanks for the good info. Can you address the problem above? This is not exclusive to WIS. WOLO seems to have the fewest drops of focus, but this fading is evident in all of the Columbia stations from my observations. I am watching with an OTA antenna with signals consistently in the 90's. The above poster is on cable with the same problems.
bdfox18doe 09-18-07, 09:49 AM I don't forsee any changes in WOLO's encoding until we replace the encoders
later this year. You should see considerably better video then. At least ON WOLO, that is..;)
ncxcstud 09-19-07, 03:27 PM That is my plan for tomorrow. I hope to find one and give it a shot. If not, I will have to figure out whether to go outside or the attic. At least it is a little cooler so I won't die up in the attic or outside for that matter.
just wondering if you got around to trying out the antenna? If it works for you, it's pretty much assured that it's one of the best indoor antennas out there...and would be a benefit to all future OTA users in Columbia, SC :)
The only place it hasn't 'worked' for me, is in Jacksonville, FL...but that was more the case with the JAX stations than the antenna since no antenna really worked in picking up local channels.
Player2 09-19-07, 07:29 PM Can anyone find the preview for Journeyman?
On HD on Demand they have Bionic Woman and Chuck, but I can not find Journeyman.
Edit...I found it.
steveosevo 09-20-07, 08:29 AM With all these problems with OTA HDTV I wonder when Dtv will have locals in HD.
overthehill 09-21-07, 07:12 AM I'm wondering when TWC will get the new Discovery HD channels, Science Channel,Animal Planent,etc?
I'm ready for Direct Tv soon id we don't get an increase in HD channels.
Bold prediction - TBS HD real soon.
awarsoca 09-21-07, 11:47 AM Out of curiosity, anyone getting the TWCSC QAM channels listed:
WACH 69.3
WIS 69.26
WRLK HD 100.1
WIS Weather Now 101.42
WRLK ETV 102.19
SC Channel 102.21
WLTX-SD 103.2
WLTX-HD 103.4
WOLO-HD 103.63
WLTX-Weather 103.8
On their PC? I got my WinTV HVR-1800 installed yesterday. Split my line for ATSC and QAM. XPMCE picks up the ATSC fine. WinTV picks up the ATSC but for QAM it is picking up the weather channels and an HBO/Cinemax preview channel.
Thanks
Clint
IrmoGamecoq 09-21-07, 01:47 PM Here's hoping for some good PQ from CBS-HD tomorrow at 330pm. :)
kevinivey 09-21-07, 05:54 PM Bold prediction - TBS HD real soon.
October 1st, in today's State paper.
TechMan 09-22-07, 02:27 AM Out of curiosity, anyone getting the TWCSC QAM channels listed:
WACH 69.3
WIS 69.26
WRLK HD 100.1
WIS Weather Now 101.42
WRLK ETV 102.19
SC Channel 102.21
WLTX-SD 103.2
WLTX-HD 103.4
WOLO-HD 103.63
WLTX-Weather 103.8
On their PC? I got my WinTV HVR-1800 installed yesterday. Split my line for ATSC and QAM. XPMCE picks up the ATSC fine. WinTV picks up the ATSC but for QAM it is picking up the weather channels and an HBO/Cinemax preview channel.
Thanks
Clint
They are there if you can't get them all to show up it's because your siginal is weak. Drop any splitters an scan again.
ncxcstud 09-22-07, 03:43 PM Anyone else experience this with OTA channels..
I've had WLTX FINE all morning...as soon as the Carolina game starts it starts chopping like it's losing signal, but it isn't...signals are staying about 75%-80%....
kevinivey 09-22-07, 04:13 PM FWIW:cable has exactly the same issues.
ncxcstud 09-22-07, 04:26 PM Hmm...mauybe it is WLTX then...I saw that during the middle to end of the 1st quarter that it switched from HD to SD to HD to SD back to HD a bit...
Seems to be going a lot more smoothly so far....
kevinivey 09-22-07, 04:36 PM It is the CBS network feed.
You all saw how horrible it was at the start, bad pixellation, and breakups.
I called WLTX and Spoke with their Technician in the Control Room, I begged them to turn down or off the sub-channels, she said she would have to get her Supervisor's approval.. I begged she said she would ask. Apparently she did...
Did you guys see how much it improved after the first Qtr or so ??
We all know they don't allocate enough bandwidth for 1080 Sports, unless we beg...
-- Cain
PS Go 'Cocks !!
tabraha 09-22-07, 06:24 PM Glad you called. Looks much better than in the beginning. That was some REALLY ugly video early on. Looks great now. :D
I did not see any problems on TWC which should be unaffected by sub-channels.
tabraha 09-22-07, 06:48 PM What is up with CBS's sound?? Is WLTX mixing the 5.1 or is CBS shooting it out that poorly? I have to play the volume game when switching back and forth b/c 19-1 is shooting out 5ch stereo!
LexHiDef 09-22-07, 11:44 PM but the Gamecocks really didn't. :p
kevinivey 09-23-07, 06:24 AM I did not see any problems on TWC which should be unaffected by sub-channels.
WBTW?:confused:
awarsoca 09-24-07, 08:17 AM They are there if you can't get them all to show up it's because your siginal is weak. Drop any splitters an scan again.
~Sigh~ I was afraid that was the issue.
In addition, from time to time we make certain changes in the services that we offer in order to better serve our customers.
The following changes/launches are planned:
Bonus with Digital Converter
Now Available - American Auctions Network – Channel 1120
Bonus with Basic Cable and HD Converter
October 1, 2007 – TBS HD – Channel 838
October 1, 2007 – HGTV HD – Channel 834
October 1, 2007 – Food Network HD – Channel 835
October 1, 2007 – History HD – Channel 837
October 1, 2007 – CNN HD – Channel 839
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October 1, 2007 – Cinemax HD – Channel 906
October 1, 2007 – The Movie Channel East HD – Channel 916
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TechMan 09-25-07, 03:04 AM awarsoca
If you can part with the $30 Radio Shack sell a good bi-directional booster(15-2505) that might help you out. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103092&cp=&sr=1&origkw=cable+booster&kw=cable+booster&parentPage=search
mikepaul 09-25-07, 01:06 PM If you can part with the $30 Radio Shack sell a good bi-directional booster(15-2505) that might help you out. http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2103092&cp=&sr=1&origkw=cable+booster&kw=cable+booster&parentPage=search
I'll be getting one ASAP. I have a $10 off $40 coupon to ease the pain, and all of the customer reviews made it sound useful.
I had to unsplit the cable modem line from my nearby TV due to 'outages' that couldn't be explained except if the signal strength had dropped below splittable levels. Nothing TWC will fix except by accident during some other repair.
If not suitable for that job, there's always the front room left unsplit a while back when some channels went AWOL...
gail2magic 09-25-07, 09:13 PM Thank you Gary. I had not seen that on their site and am looking forward to more HD channels :)
Gail
Hopefully we will get more HD channels with the listed carriage agreement renews that is also posted on their website. Can we get Starz HD like other TWC divisions that are running SDV????
Gary,
Great! Thanks for the info. At last, CNN in HD!
Harold
ncxcstud 09-26-07, 09:02 AM I just got most of those channels...of course, I have DirecTV though...
TBSHD is worse than AEHD at the moment...Just went through 2 days of guide data on D* and not ONE thing is in HD.....though everything is stretched :(
CNN HD looks great though :)
I just got most of those channels...of course, I have DirecTV though...
TBS HD will have the baseball playoffs in HD. Some of us will be watching in full bandwidth, some HD Lite. :D
ncxcstud 09-26-07, 09:28 AM TBS HD will have the baseball playoffs in HD. Some of us will be watching in full bandwidth, some HD Lite.
I have DirecTV not DishNetwork :). Dish is the current leader of HDLite at the moment :)
And yes, even though my Rangers won't be in the playoffs, I'll still be watching it :)
Nucleartiger 09-26-07, 06:12 PM Just saw a post on another forum that DirecTV was adding 21 HD channels this month and should have up to 100 live by the end of the year.
Does anyone know anything about TWC adding any others beyond these 5 new channels?
ncxcstud 09-26-07, 08:31 PM Just saw a post on another forum that DirecTV was adding 21 HD channels this month and should have up to 100 live by the end of the year.
Does anyone know anything about TWC adding any others beyond these 5 new channels?
21 channels were added this morning
we have 30 now.
We *should* have 70 by the end of October and 100 by the end of the year :)
TzuDohNihm 09-26-07, 09:51 PM I recently purchased a Samsung TX-T3092WH (http://reviews.cnet.com/direct-view-tvs-crt/samsung-tx-t3092wh/4507-6481_7-32306308.html?tag=sub) and have TWC basic service. I have 11 channels since I am barely home to watch more TV than that. I am paying $13/month for these channels. Should I be? The OTA scanning should pick them up for me right?
Also, looking at the specs for the TV I just bought doesn't the ATSC tuner allow me to pull the HD channels without an antenna?
I am confused.
overthehill 09-27-07, 07:46 AM Any rumors as to when/if TWC will add the new Discovery Channel HD versions of the Science Channel, TLC, etc.
I sure would like them.
ncxcstud 09-27-07, 08:08 AM I recently purchased a Samsung TX-T3092WH (http://reviews.cnet.com/direct-view-tvs-crt/samsung-tx-t3092wh/4507-6481_7-32306308.html?tag=sub) and have TWC basic service. I have 11 channels since I am barely home to watch more TV than that. I am paying $13/month for these channels. Should I be? The OTA scanning should pick them up for me right?
Also, looking at the specs for the TV I just bought doesn't the ATSC tuner allow me to pull the HD channels without an antenna?
I am confused.
You need an antenna to pull in the OTA hd channels. that's what the ATSC tuner is used with.
go to www.antennaweb.org and find out how far away you live from the antennas and in what general direction they are from your house. Buy an antenna (I recommend this one (http://www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2131034&cp=2032057.2032187.2032189.2032204&fbn=Type%2FHDTV&f=PAD%2FProduct+Type%2FHDTV&fbc=1&parentPage=family) from Radio Shack)
Fiddle with it a bit to get good reception, and then you're good to go :)
mikepaul 09-27-07, 08:54 AM Any rumors as to when/if TWC will add the new Discovery Channel HD versions of the Science Channel, TLC, etc.
I sure would like them.
What I would like to know is: how many GOOD channels will we not see until 2013 due to having to provide analog TVs with a local-channel signal until 2012?
Didn't see where that Federally-subsidized converter box idea went away, but this probably gives them time to find the money for the ones they WERE going to provide cable viewers...
just wondering if you got around to trying out the antenna? If it works for you, it's pretty much assured that it's one of the best indoor antennas out there...and would be a benefit to all future OTA users in Columbia, SC :)
It worked "OK." A couple stations were a little snowy, but all the ones I hoped to receive either came it great or good enough to watch. I plan on hanging onto the antenna for now, but may return it if I decide to try an attic installation.
Speaking of other antennas, does anyone know where in Columbia is a brink and mortar store I can go and see antennas and talk with someone about the possibility of one for an attic or a chimney mount? Does everyone just order online and have to deal with shipping back or will local places carry a decent selection. I really would like something that does both UHF and VHF, at least enough VHF to get WOLO and WIS in the future. Thanks.
bdfox18doe 09-27-07, 09:14 AM What I would like to know is: how many GOOD channels will we not see until 2013 due to having to provide analog TVs with a local-channel signal until 2012?...
The requirement to provide locals isn't what's sucking up the bandwidth, its all the other analog channels provided..which if they were eliminated would provide a LOT of bandwidth. And, don't forget the ever popular shopping and local access channels that we HD viewers really want to see in HD...
Coop1979 09-27-07, 01:34 PM Anyone know what LMN-HD is?
http://www.timewarnercable.com/SouthCarolina/products/HDTVAvailableChannels.html
Nevermind - I answered my own question:
LMN HD - Lifetime Movie Network
Now you can get up close and personal with your favorite movie stars with LMN HD. Enjoy the optimal picture quality of the only hi-definition movie service for women.
ncxcstud 09-27-07, 01:37 PM Lifetime Movie Network??
bdfox18doe 09-27-07, 01:56 PM Lifetime Movie Network??
Gosh.. Now I can't wait to get home...:rolleyes:
mikepaul 09-27-07, 03:24 PM http://www.twcsc.com/AllHosted/ProgrammingInfo/ChannelLineups.asp
October 1, 2007 – Cinemax HD – Channel 906
October 1, 2007 – The Movie Channel East HD – Channel 916
At last!!!!...
Sleuth, Universal HD, NBC Universal VOD content,
Cartoon Network On Demand, TBS On Demand,
CNN On Demand, TNT On Demand, CourtTV On Demand,
TCM On Demand, Adult Swim On Demand, DIY On Demand,
Fine Living On Demand, HGTV On Demand, Food Network on Demand,
Mag Rack On Demand and all Starz/Encore channels.
Starz and Encore?? Really????....
Yakatak 09-27-07, 05:07 PM Does anyone know if TWC has Multi-channel cable cards (M-Cards)available here yet? I know that they have them in some markets (Dallas).
I don't believe the newly added HD channels are CableCARD compatible:(
It may not be a big priority, but I'd actually like to see The Weather Channel in HD!
kevinivey 09-27-07, 05:44 PM It may not be a big priority, but I'd actually like to see The Weather Channel in HD!
I doubt it will take long for this channel to be added.
Has anyone notice that the new channels are loaded in the guide now? Just can't view them as of yet :(
ncxcstud 09-27-07, 09:32 PM It may not be a big priority, but I'd actually like to see The Weather Channel in HD!
Its nice :)
HD helps the weather maps out a lot.
And, I actually watch CNN again now :)
TzuDohNihm 09-27-07, 10:47 PM Speaking of other antennas, does anyone know where in Columbia is a brink and mortar store I can go and see antennas and talk with someone about the possibility of one for an attic or a chimney mount? Does everyone just order online and have to deal with shipping back or will local places carry a decent selection. I really would like something that does both UHF and VHF, at least enough VHF to get WOLO and WIS in the future. Thanks.
I've seen about five antennas at the Columbiana Radio Shack. Not sure how helpful the staff are going to be though.
TBSHD, HGTVHD, LMCHD, Food NetworkHD, HistoryHD, and CNNHD are now live!
Why do I see only the scroll across the bottom filling the screen on CNNHD?
Only the evening shows on CNNHD are real HD (New York studio).
IrmoGamecoq 09-28-07, 01:03 PM Last night's broadcast of "The Office" on WIS-HD was a total mess. Very little in HD, long stretches where the video went black but the audio continued playing...mostly in letterboxed SD. We finally just switched to WIS-SD for the rest of the show. A pathetic display considering this was a highly anticipated premiere of a hit show.
From what I can tell in the "Office" thread...this was a local issue.
Coop1979 09-28-07, 01:33 PM Is Cinemax showing anyone yet? Last night I had all of the new channels showing in my Guide except for Cinemax.
bdfox18doe 09-28-07, 02:43 PM I've seen about five antennas at the Columbiana Radio Shack. Not sure how helpful the staff are going to be though.
Now-Now.. "You've got questions, they have answers". Maybe not the right ones, but at least they're answers.. Besides, you should be asking them about a cell phone, not a TV antenna :)
scruffy7 09-28-07, 04:19 PM Only the evening shows on CNNHD are real HD (New York studio).
Larry King in HD? :eek:
scruffy7 09-28-07, 04:23 PM Last night's broadcast of "The Office" on WIS-HD was a total mess. Very little in HD, long stretches where the video went black but the audio continued playing...mostly in letterboxed SD. We finally just switched to WIS-SD for the rest of the show. A pathetic display considering this was a highly anticipated premiere of a hit show.
From what I can tell in the "Office" thread...this was a local issue.
they had some bad problems during My Name Is Earl, too. WIS just can't seem to get their HD broadcast together.
IrmoGamecoq 09-29-07, 06:21 AM they had some bad problems during My Name Is Earl, too. WIS just can't seem to get their HD broadcast together.
Yep, saw it in Earl too...long stretches of black screen with audio in the background. Pretty ridiculous.
ncxcstud 09-29-07, 12:44 PM Isn't the Carolina game supposed to be on NBC at the moment??
EDIT: Nevermind, it seems it's only on the SD channel...kind of silly...especially for those of us who have removed all 'duplicate' channels from their channel guides...
4Runner 09-29-07, 05:33 PM And it was the worst quality I have seen this year. Man, those players were extra fuzzy. I like it when they are on ESPN 1 or 2. At least we won. Was a bit nervous when M St starting running the ball with ease.
tabraha 09-29-07, 10:05 PM And it was the worst quality I have seen this year. Man, those players were extra fuzzy. I like it when they are on ESPN 1 or 2. At least we won. Was a bit nervous when M St starting running the ball with ease.
Exact opposite here. I saw my Tigers very clearly in HD today. We clearly lost unfortunately. :o
I am getting a lot of pixellation on the new HD Channels (Food, HGTV, CNN) but not on the older HD Channels (HDNET, MOJO etc). The channels are unwatchable. Does anyone else see this? I figure its probably not my problem or all of the HD channels would have a problem.
bdfox18doe 09-30-07, 11:58 AM I am getting a lot of pixellation on the new HD Channels (Food, HGTV, CNN) but not on the older HD Channels (HDNET, MOJO etc). The channels are unwatchable. Does anyone else see this? I figure its probably not my problem or all of the HD channels would have a problem.
Not necessarily.. TWC could have issues with only those channels, it could also be a problem with your cable drop affecting only specific channels. I had a WOLO-DT viewer on TWC this week who had a bad splitter. If they were bad on the system, you'd be seeing other posts here about it.
They look fine on TWC here.
I recently had new cable runs installed so none are split. I do have a lot of runs (4), but all are home runs right from the main splitter outside the house. I guess if it continues I'll call someone to take a look at it. Strange that this is not happening at all on the older HD channels. I would have thought such a problem would effect all of the HD channels.
I did just recently upgrade to an HDDVR. I wonder if the problem could be in the box.
kevinivey 09-30-07, 12:21 PM I would encourage contacting WLTX-DT about their bizzare network audio passage. Their link for engineering is not active, which may lead to why this has not been corrected.
If you use your monitor's speakers, you may not even notice a problem
kevinivey 09-30-07, 12:23 PM I recently had new cable runs installed so none are split. I do have a lot of runs (4), but all are home runs right from the main splitter outside the house. I guess if it continues I'll call someone to take a look at it. Strange that this is not happening at all on the older HD channels. I would have thought such a problem would effect all of the HD channels.
I did just recently upgrade to an HDDVR. I wonder if the problem could be in the box.
A lot of what is being shown is NOT HD, but stretched, and SD upconverted.
A lot of what is being shown is NOT HD, but stretched, and SD upconverted.
Which would cause his problem how? I would look at signal strength problems which can affect some channels but not others. I think that is what Bob was alluding to.
bdfox18doe 09-30-07, 12:51 PM I would encourage contacting WLTX-DT about their bizzare network audio passage. Their link for engineering is not active, which may lead to why this has not been corrected.
Jim Grasty from WLTX lurks here..:)
kevinivey 09-30-07, 01:26 PM Well ,he should know that 5 channel stereo is not the norm.
I am getting a lot of pixellation on the new HD Channels (Food, HGTV, CNN) but not on the older HD Channels (HDNET, MOJO etc). The channels are unwatchable. Does anyone else see this? I figure its probably not my problem or all of the HD channels would have a problem.
Yeah, I'm getting the same thing, off-and-on.
Harold
LexHiDef 09-30-07, 05:54 PM I am getting a lot of pixellation on the new HD Channels (Food, HGTV, CNN) but not on the older HD Channels (HDNET, MOJO etc). The channels are unwatchable. Does anyone else see this? I figure its probably not my problem or all of the HD channels would have a problem.
I was getting a lot of that Friday night but it has virtually gone away Saturday and today. Friday night was downright aggravating. It was affecting the 2 ESPNHD channels along with some of the ones you mentioned but not MOJO, HDNet, etc.
I am getting a lot of pixellation on the new HD Channels (Food, HGTV, CNN) but not on the older HD Channels (HDNET, MOJO etc). The channels are unwatchable. Does anyone else see this? I figure its probably not my problem or all of the HD channels would have a problem.
As of about an hour ago, I was also getting the pixellation on the new HD channels.
I'm getting "Channel Not Available" messages when attempting to access most of the new channels.
mikepaul 10-01-07, 09:35 AM I only got Unavailable on Max-HD for a moment the other night. Now I'm very happy!
All I need now is another Star Wars marathon...
IrmoGamecoq 10-01-07, 01:13 PM None of the new HD channels were coming in tolerably for me all weekend. Terrible pixelization and so forth.
I just figured they would clear up when they "officially" started on 10/1. I'll have to check again when I get home.
4Runner 10-01-07, 01:16 PM Strange. Everytime I tuned in one of the new channels it looked great. Now, I didn't watch for too longe so maybe I got lucky. I did watch "Dogfights" and a stretch of "Band of Brothers" on the History channel HD....just a minute or two of Food HD. Very nice.
The channels are looking OK today. I called this morning to have them take a look and they said my signal strength was good. They plan to send someone out Wednesday. But since others are seeing the same problem now, I would think it is a system problem and not my problem. I guess if it continues to look OK I'll just cancel the service call.
IrmoGamecoq 10-02-07, 08:14 AM Strange. Everytime I tuned in one of the new channels it looked great. Now, I didn't watch for too longe so maybe I got lucky. I did watch "Dogfights" and a stretch of "Band of Brothers" on the History channel HD....just a minute or two of Food HD. Very nice.
You would have seen it as soon as you tuned into the channel, trust me. It was VERY bad...I know AVS posters have a tendency to exaggerate when it comes to PQ, but this really was unwatchable.
Didn't get a chance to check last night, but I would think it's a system-wide problem since it only affected the new channels added.
4Runner 10-02-07, 10:56 AM I did get a "Channel Unavailable" last night but turned it to another channel and then back and it was fine. Still no issues for me. Signal strenth is excellent for me on the new and old channels....all better than -10
ncxcstud 10-03-07, 07:34 AM Just got 11 more channels this morning :) and NO PQ degradation!! Remember I have DTV not TWC... SCIFIHD is here, now I don't have to wait until Universal HD shows Battlestar Galactica to watch it :)
Once you have the Networks, Turner, the ESPNs, PBS, HBO, Showtime, CNN and a few others in HD these fringe channels are not going to get many people to call the pizza pan man. :D
IrmoGamecoq 10-03-07, 08:43 AM I tuned in quickly last night to HGTV-HD and the pixelization problem seems to have been fixed.
I tuned in quickly last night to HGTV-HD and the pixelization problem seems to have been fixed.
I took a look at Food-HD and it looks good too. Great addition to the HD lineup but it makes me hungry.
Just got 11 more channels this morning :) and NO PQ degradation!! Remember I have DTV not TWC... SCIFIHD is here, now I don't have to wait until Universal HD shows Battlestar Galactica to watch it :)I'm very interested in switching to D*. Since you've have them, have you had any dropouts due to rain?
ncxcstud 10-03-07, 01:47 PM Kind of hard to have dropout due to rain when we haven't really had any, lol.
I'm still working on getting my dish set perfectly. But, 'normally' if you have a really clear view of the southern sky (I really don't) then rain fade isn't that big of an issue. Still an issue, but not as big of a deal than TWC...
And from what I read on this board, you guys loose your channels or have sub-par pictures far more than when I do :)
Kind of hard to have dropout due to rain when we haven't really had any, lol.
I'm still working on getting my dish set perfectly. But, 'normally' if you have a really clear view of the southern sky (I really don't) then rain fade isn't that big of an issue. Still an issue, but not as big of a deal than TWC...
And from what I read on this board, you guys loose your channels or have sub-par pictures far more than when I do :)I thought you had D* since earlier in the year when we had all that rain (Spring). My bad.
Yes, I'm starting to think SDV isn't all it's cracked up to be. I've had issues accessing the new channels at least once per day since they went live. Not a very good sign of things to come.
ncxcstud 10-03-07, 02:21 PM I thought you had D* since earlier in the year when we had all that rain (Spring). My bad.
Yes, I'm starting to think SDV isn't all it's cracked up to be. I've had issues accessing the new channels at least once per day since they went live. Not a very good sign of things to come.
I've had DTV for awhile, i thought you meant since the new HD channels have been turned on.
Where my dish used to be, I would lose my signals if it poured...and I mean absolutely poured...which sometimes would knock out cable TV when I had it as well...but, then again...I was fitting my 'line-of-sight' between a 3 foot 'hole' between to tree branches.
Since I've moved the dish (to get the new sats) to a more open area, that hasn't been a problem. And, from what I've read the new MPEG4 channels are more resistant to rain fade then the older channels.
I've had DTV for awhile, i thought you meant since the new HD channels have been turned on.
Where my dish used to be, I would lose my signals if it poured...and I mean absolutely poured...which sometimes would knock out cable TV when I had it as well...but, then again...I was fitting my 'line-of-sight' between a 3 foot 'hole' between to tree branches.
Since I've moved the dish (to get the new sats) to a more open area, that hasn't been a problem. And, from what I've read the new MPEG4 channels are more resistant to rain fade then the older channels.Good news. TWCSC is about to lose another LONG time customer.
Good news. TWCSC is about to lose another LONG time customer.
I'll alert the media!
ncxcstud 10-03-07, 03:34 PM I'll alert the media!
Already did ;)
TWC said they'd send countless mailings and e-mails to try to 'win him back' like they do with me...
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I suspect they do a case-by-case cost benefit analysis. :D
I'll alert the media!Oh, it's the A&EHD lover :D Yes, I understand that one defection doesn't matter to TWCSC. However, I'm no the only one leaving;) I would love to see thier churn numbers come January.
tabraha 10-03-07, 09:41 PM I've had DTV for awhile, i thought you meant since the new HD channels have been turned on.
Where my dish used to be, I would lose my signals if it poured...and I mean absolutely poured...which sometimes would knock out cable TV when I had it as well...but, then again...I was fitting my 'line-of-sight' between a 3 foot 'hole' between to tree branches.
Since I've moved the dish (to get the new sats) to a more open area, that hasn't been a problem. And, from what I've read the new MPEG4 channels are more resistant to rain fade then the older channels.
I was watching TBS-HD on D* for the MLB playoffs and we had a pretty strong rain band come through. Dumped 0.3" in less than 10 minutes and it didn't flinch.
ncxcstud 10-03-07, 11:02 PM yeah, it poured here and I never lost a channel as well :)
Rich_SC 10-03-07, 11:13 PM I'm very interested in switching to D*. Since you've have them, have you had any dropouts due to rain?
I switched to D* 6 years ago and have had no issues at all with rain fade...In fact I switched because of the frequent outtages of TWC (and the seemingly constant price creep upward).
I couldn't be happier...esp now with the new HD offerings (what's SD?). I also just got a free HR20 HD DVR (the retention dept at D* is pretty aggressive about keeping you a subscriber)....check out: dbstalk.com (http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=62089)
Mark Paquette 10-04-07, 10:03 AM I'm ready to make the jump to Directv, the only thing slowing me down is the lack of Columbia digital channels. I'm going to give the antenna in the attic thing a whirl in the next couple of weeks. If that works, bye-bye TWC.
Rich_SC 10-04-07, 04:43 PM I'm ready to make the jump to Directv, the only thing slowing me down is the lack of Columbia digital channels. I'm going to give the antenna in the attic thing a whirl in the next couple of weeks. If that works, bye-bye TWC.
You could always "move" your service address to NYC (billing address stays in SC). Then you'll get local HD OTA and national network HD over the sat's. D* doesn't care where you live as long as you pay the bill.
ncxcstud 10-04-07, 09:53 PM You could always "move" your service address to NYC (billing address stays in SC). Then you'll get local HD OTA and national network HD over the sat's. D* doesn't care where you live as long as you pay the bill.
Or where your receivers are :)
bdfox18doe 10-05-07, 08:14 AM D* doesn't care where you live as long as you pay the bill.
I'm amazed at people who want to PAY money for something you can get FREE with and Antenna, and with much better quality too..
Rich_SC 10-05-07, 12:18 PM I'm amazed at people who want to PAY money for something you can get FREE with and Antenna, and with much better quality too..
you're assuming a lot...
bdfox18doe 10-05-07, 12:35 PM you're assuming a lot...
Oh? And how so?
ncxcstud 10-05-07, 12:54 PM I can get HBO, ESPN, TBS, Showtime, Cinemax, SciFi, etc... free over the air with an antenna?
really now.....
And, I had TWC and I currently have an OTA antenna for locals...there isn't a difference that I can tell between the two on the broadcast channels...
Sorry, I'd like more than 5 or 6 HD channels...I watch more TV than that.
And a lot of people don't want the hassle of putting a monster antenna either in their attic or on their house. I'll pay for the 'convenience' of having local HD channels + tons of others that I wouldn't get through the antenna...
And, what Rich_SC is implying (I think) is that for some people an antenna might not 'cut it' for them based on where they live and what is between them and the towers...
bdfox18doe 10-05-07, 12:59 PM I can get HBO, ESPN, TBS, Showtime, Cinemax, SciFi, etc... free over the air with an antenna?
really now.....
And, I had TWC and I currently have an OTA antenna for locals...there isn't a difference that I can tell between the two on the broadcast channels...
Sorry, I'd like more than 5 or 6 HD channels...I watch more TV than that.
I don't recall mentioning that those can be had via OTA. :rolleyes: Anyone that assumes that probably thinks their VCR is in HD just becuase they have an HDTV.:D
I have OTA as well. Plus TWC, D, and E, as well as other sources not available to the typical viewer. So I know what they all look like. :)
Oh? And how so?
I would like to try OTA but I can't get Granny to get up on that second story roof with an antenna.
bdfox18doe 10-05-07, 02:02 PM I would like to try OTA but I can't get Granny to get up on that second story roof with an antenna.
Maybe you're "pushing" too hard? :eek:
Maybe you're "pushing" too hard? :eek:
Not really. She did get my barbells into the attic. ;)
guatedad 10-07-07, 01:16 PM Is anyone having problems with WACH Fox today? The football game is not coming in HD despite it being advertised as HD. I called the station and they are clueless.
It's HD on TWC. My crystal ball says you are talking about OTA?
guatedad 10-07-07, 01:21 PM Yes I am getting a signal in the high 80's but the picture is SD.
GreystoneSC 10-07-07, 01:51 PM I'm not seeing HD on WACH or on WOLO (Talladega coming up)... TWC for both.
kevinivey 10-07-07, 01:53 PM TWC has nothing to do with it. WOLO is not broadcasting HD.
GreystoneSC 10-07-07, 01:58 PM WOLO working perfectly now.
** I know, just indicating my source (not OTA)
guatedad 10-07-07, 02:02 PM I'm with you. WOLO flipped a switch or something. They are back to HD on NASCAR, but WACH is still clueless. Amazing that the viewership for HD is highest on the weekends but WOLO and WACH can't get their act together and keep the torch lit. Does anyone know what causes WOLO and WACH's HD signal to drop periodically? This isn't the first time it has happened. I am watching OTA with low 90 signal strength.
kevinivey 10-07-07, 02:12 PM WACH is now working correctly. Now, maybe WLTX can fix their audio.Their 5 channel stereo is getting old.
kevinivey 10-07-07, 02:13 PM It's HD on TWC. My crystal ball says you are talking about OTA?
Are you locals WOLO or WACH???????:confused:
GreystoneSC 10-07-07, 02:14 PM WACH? Still SD for me... but no HD indicator in the program guide, either... (although I'm pretty sure all FOX NFL games are HD)
kevinivey 10-07-07, 02:19 PM WACH? Still SD for me... but no HD indicator in the program guide, either... (although I'm pretty sure all FOX NFL games are HD)
Program guide never says HD for anything on FOXHD,and all games are not HD on Fox. Some games are SD Widescreen. The game switched to HD a little bit ago,but they can't seem to keep the feed up.
ncxcstud 10-07-07, 02:20 PM Just so people know...sun outages (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_outage) are going on today that are disrupting HD feeds all over the country...that's why some things are gonna go in and out with HD...
Are you locals WOLO or WACH???????:confused:
No, he seemed to be wondering if the game was being broadcast in HD if that is ok. Some are not.
guatedad 10-07-07, 02:40 PM Sun Outages makes sense, but the knuckleheads at WACH and WOLO should be telling the viewers this and not leaving us hanging with no explanation. Communication is a wonderful thing.
bdfox18doe 10-07-07, 03:05 PM WOLO and WACH can't get their act together and keep the torch lit. Does anyone know what causes WOLO and WACH's HD signal to drop periodically? This isn't the first time it has happened. I am watching OTA with low 90 signal strength.
I think you need to back up your claim with facts. WOLO has one of the most reliable HD signals in Columbia. Please give specific times and dates when WOLO hasn't "kept the torch lit" to support your false generalization.
If you had read other areas of this forum, you'd know that this is the time of year that solar transit outages occur, causing station to drop to SD backup feed until the outage has passed. Newbies with few posts should read more and learn a bit before calling people "knuckleheads".
kevinivey 10-07-07, 05:00 PM I have to agree with Bob about Wolo. WIS has a extremely hard time passing HD. WLTX has bad DD 5.1 ,and WACH SD on the HD channel is unwatchable.
I guess I could lie about where I live so that I could get NY HD locals. Then again that's not me.
mikepaul 10-08-07, 08:24 AM I have to agree with Bob about Wolo. WIS has a extremely hard time passing HD. WLTX has bad DD 5.1 ,and WACH SD on the HD channel is unwatchable.
Does anyone know what happened to WACH-HD when showing SD, or if they have a due date for a fix? I'm about ready to create captures of both versions to show the crappy vertical lines, and if there's someone at WACH who doesn't know how bad it is I'll send them some samples...
Jim Grasty 10-08-07, 10:14 AM Working on the AUDIO as we speak.
Hi BD
bdfox18doe 10-08-07, 03:34 PM Hi Jim-
Hope all is well. Your pathfire buddy is still calling me!
guatedad 10-08-07, 08:40 PM Bob it is admirable of you to take up for WOLO, but no one at the station yesterday had any idea why the NASCAR pre-race show was not in HD. It was in HD on the national Directv ABC feed. These are FACTS. This is obviously not your area but if the signal drops the station should let the viewers know why. We could debate whether the powers that be at WOLO are knuckleheads in another forum, but the ratings speak for themselves. I will admit the quality of WOLO's HD is the best in the market but the signal strength is not as strong as it could be. WIS and WLTX are much stronger. WOLO is VHF on the digital side which makes no sense to me. What gives there?
LexHiDef 10-08-07, 09:33 PM Working on the AUDIO as we speak.
Hi BD
Jim, thanks for working on the audio. I assume this will help correct the problem where WLTX is SOOO much louder than all of the other channels. Is my assumption correct? The much higher volume on 810 seemed to be especially bad this past weekend. Didn't notice if it was just during sporting events.
bdfox18doe 10-09-07, 06:51 AM Bob it is admirable of you to take up for WOLO, but no one at the station yesterday had any idea why the NASCAR pre-race show was not in HD.
If you'd read what I have said about solar transit outages, you'd know why the pre-race wasn't in HD. We were on the backup feed. As to "not being my area" I think you need to do a little more research as to who I am and what I do, especially in regards to WOLO.
If you're not getting as strong a signal on WOLO, it's an antenna issue on your end. We're at our fully liscensed power. With A good VHF antena you will have no problem. If our signal was weak, why do we have ful time viewers in Rock Hill and Florence? As to being on VHF ch8, that's our liscensed channel which won't change. And, come 2009, If my information is correct, WIS will transition back to VHF10.
ncxcstud 10-09-07, 09:13 AM If you're not getting as strong a signal on WOLO, it's an antenna issue on your end. We're at our fully liscensed power. With A good VHF antena you will have no problem. If our signal was weak, why do we have ful time viewers in Rock Hill and Florence? As to being on VHF ch8, that's our liscensed channel which won't change. And, come 2009, If my information is correct, WIS will transition back to VHF10.
From 33 miles away from the towers, I get ABCHD pretty well with a little ol' indoor antenna. Of course, everyone has already heard me speak about that more often than not now.
I think WOLO is doing a pretty good job :). WIS, WOLO, and WACH (IMO) all have the best PQ in the area. WLTX is a little soft compared to the others during primetime shows....
I just got back from having lunch with a friend. He also has TWC, but tells me he uses an antenna to pick up the local HD channels. 'Says the picture and audio quaility are far superior to the compressed TWC channels. When I told him I didn't have a convenient location for either an inside or outside antenna - his response was that it would be well worth the effort. My question - is there really THAT MUCH difference? Thanks.
bdfox18doe 10-10-07, 03:39 PM My question - is there really THAT MUCH difference? Thanks.
Here in Charlotte, there is a NOTICEABLE difference. :)
Here in South Carolina, it has yet to be proven TWC HD is less than full bandwidth.
bdfox18doe 10-10-07, 03:51 PM Here in South Carolina, it has yet to be proven TWC HD is less than full bandwidth.
Right, other than the notes I get from viewers like IRMo's friend... had notes from 2 viewers this week ..who say OTA is much better. Of course, Gary can't actually try it himself since Granny won't put up his antenna. :)
kevinivey 10-10-07, 04:50 PM Right, other than the notes I get from viewers like IRMo's friend... had notes from 2 viewers this week ..who say OTA is much better. Of course, Gary can't actually try it himself since Granny won't put up his antenna. :)
No difference at all on my 3 monitors. Frankly, none of the local stations are all that great.(multicast hell).:) All 3 monitors have internal ota tuners. All have max signal from my 20 year rooftop chimney mounted antenna.
I guess WLTX couldn't figure out their DD 5.1 problem ,because is still broke.
Satori84 10-16-07, 11:04 PM Heros was in SD last night :mad: (and so was Journeyman which follows, but we don't watch it.) The program was 16:9 but both letter and pillar boxed, i.e. black bars all around, which is not like the usual "forgot to flip the switch" syndrome with a pillarboxed 4:3 image.
I'm guessing the NBC was sending a downconverted version of the HD program on the SD network side, which would be letterboxed on 4:3 sets, but when broadcast on WIS-DT wound up becoming the postage stamp version. Just curious if there was an equipment problem, or just Master Control operator error...
All was OK tonight for L&O:SVU.
IrmoGamecoq 10-17-07, 08:27 AM SD Heroes for me as well...
ncxcstud 10-17-07, 03:16 PM It was still 'normal' forgot to flip the switch SD of Heroes.
A lot of NBC shows are shot in widescreen. Heroes, The Office, and ER are the 3 I can think of right off the top of my head...
So, when it's in SD on a WS HD set..., it'll have the black bars all around the picture...
IrmoGamecoq 10-18-07, 08:25 AM Jouneyman was in SD as well...guess they never remembered to "flip the switch" that night. Pretty pathetic.
Well, I finally broke down and gave up on the antenna route to get my HD. I basically decided that E* was not good enough and their offer to get HD service was worse than a joke. It was about as insulting as the job offer given to Joe Torre. So, I called up my old nemises and ask TWC what they could offer. They gave me an offer that I could not refuse (even given their terrible service history for me). So now I have an 8300HD and a digital DVR (Explorer 8000).
Now for my question, my TV supports either 1080i or 720p. Am I better off only turning on those two options for the HD box and allow it to upconvert? Also, should I watch ESPN and the others that allow 720p in 720 or should I only have the 1080i turned on and watch everything in it. Thanks for any insight.
Yes and Passthrough (if the 8000 allows it). Why didn't you get the 8300HD?
Yes and Passthrough (if the 8000 allows it). Why didn't you get the 8300HD?
I did get the 8300HD. I also got a digital only DVR which was the explorer 8000. I have the 8300HD hooked up with HDMI so I assume I use the Auto DVI or whatever the setting was as it did not have a passthrough option. THanks.
WKTC-DT (My Network) Channel 63-1 (39) is showing up OTA (704X480 16:9) as of Sunday night.
This was posted on Sept. 10 but I only noticed it just recently. I haven't had any success yet in picking up 63-1. According to the FCC database it should be running at about the same power (500 kW ERP) and nearly the same location as WACH 57-1, which I can receive, although not terribly well. It must be getting swamped by WMYT 55-x (also on channel 39) from near Charlotte, even though that station is running only 200 kW at about the same distance.
Not that I really need another MyNetwork station. Besides WMYT I have WMYA 40-1 only 20 miles away. :rolleyes:
ncxcstud 10-21-07, 10:28 PM jtbell -
I get it fine, but no worries, it isn't in HD anyways...just a digital signal at the moment...
LexHiDef 10-23-07, 09:18 PM Is anyone experiencing the lack of a picture on certain channels like 951 (ESPNHD2), 902 (HBOHD2), 843, 842, 841, 838, 839, etc.? That's just a few that I'm not getting. Others like 950 (ESPNHD) and 845 are coming in fine.
I just spent 30 minutes on the phone with TWCSC and they couldn't fix it. They did promise to come out Friday sometime between 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. I'm glad our time isn't as important as theirs. Geez, what happened to good ole customer service?
IrmoGamecoq 10-24-07, 08:28 AM I got that over the weekend on 950. I was assuming that it was the SDV that everyone had talked about previously. It wasn't anything I particuarly wanted to see on 950, so it wasn't worth it to me at that time to deal with TWC customer service.
I've noticed this on 160 (ESPNU). Of course, that's not HD.
oceangrace24 10-24-07, 09:37 AM Is anyone experiencing the lack of a picture on certain channels like 951 (ESPNHD2), 902 (HBOHD2), 843, 842, 841, 838, 839, etc.? That's just a few that I'm not getting. Others like 950 (ESPNHD) and 845 are coming in fine.
I just spent 30 minutes on the phone with TWCSC and they couldn't fix it. They did promise to come out Friday sometime between 8 a.m. and 8 p.m. I'm glad our time isn't as important as theirs. Geez, what happened to good ole customer service?
Regardless of what anyone else on here tells you, check your cables. If you any sort of spliters between the road and your box, remove them and see if they still do not come in.
I had the same problem a couple of months ago. I had a splitter right before my box so I could use PIP on my tv instead of the box. All the SDV channels would not come in on that tv. they came in fine on my bedroom tv that didn't have that extra spliter.
I removed the splitter and it worked fine then.
I had the cable from the road that went into a splitter for all the tvs and cable modem and then that second splitter right before the box. This was enough for the signal to go out.
Trace all your lines and see how many splitters you have..
I have had similar problems on two occasions -- the channels mentioned and the whole NHL hockey package.
The first time I called Tech support (SIC) and they wanted to send a tech out. We were going to be gone a few days so why we got back all was fine. The tech guy called and we talked but he did not come out.
It happened again on Monday of this week. All the channels missing, except this time if I switched our box on the non HD set to channel 160 or 161 the box would reboot.
I talked to a supervisor yesterday and he sent a "signal" to both boxes and everything cleared up. I have an 8300 HD DVR and a 2100.
A tech guy was scheduled to come out today and he did show up. He said it was a SDV problem and they are having it from just north of Brookgreen Gardens to just south of the old AFB in Myrtle Beach. He said it is a headend problem but TW does not seem to want to do anything about it. He said there was nothing he could do until TW corrects the problems they have with SDV.
Another 'advancement" in cable technology by TW!
I just hope that ESPN Classic works this weekend as my Wolverines will be beating up on the Gophers and keeping the Little Brown Jug!!:D
Another 'advancement" in cable technology by TW!
So there is a problem with new technology that is giving you more HD channels than you would get otherwise. Take a pill until it gets fixed.
LexHiDef 10-24-07, 08:38 PM I get home today and every thing is working fine. I'm not cancelling the technician's visit until Friday, though.
GreystoneSC 10-25-07, 08:27 PM Last night I could only get half of my HBOs and a few random higher end channels (100+) were out. Tonight, the channels are working, but I still have a gray screen when flipping, and it seems to take substantially longer to tune a station than before.
Could this also be caused by their SDV problem?
singitloud 10-25-07, 08:40 PM Why does my 8300HD box say it can't record "three recordings" when I am not TRYING to record three recordings?
I am so tired of this problem - it has happened with my last two boxes.
mikepaul 10-26-07, 08:25 AM Why does my 8300HD box say it can't record "three recordings" when I am not TRYING to record three recordings?
I am so tired of this problem - it has happened with my last two boxes.
The last time I experienced this, I had managed to request EVERY episode of a show and ONE episode of the same show, and it wasn't smart enough to merge those two requests into one. So when another show was added, that totaled three...
mikepaul 10-26-07, 03:07 PM Last night I could only get half of my HBOs and a few random higher end channels (100+) were out. Tonight, the channels are working, but I still have a gray screen when flipping, and it seems to take substantially longer to tune a station than before.
Could this also be caused by their SDV problem?
Do you have any splitters on the cable just before the box?
I'm not sure about splitting out where the wires enter the house, but those 2- and 3-way splitters to feed a VCR and the cable box are blocking full use of a weak signal. TWC apparently doesn't care if a splitter doesn't work anymore: a weak signal seems to continue until the hardware causing it fails completely and after THAT is repaired it might work again while split.
If I had known about this lack of concern back when they were building my place, I'd have asked for two outlets per room and paid for the activations as-needed. Then at least the strength at the outlet might be an issue TWC would care about...
If I had known about this lack of concern back when they were building my place, I'd have asked for two outlets per room and paid for the activations as-needed. Then at least the strength at the outlet might be an issue TWC would care about...
What you could have done is a "homerun". This is a hierarchal design where you assign the signal strength for each outlet by where it is in the hierarchy.
kevinivey 10-27-07, 02:40 PM To the best of my knowledge the Rutgers/ WVU is supposed to be in HD, but WOLO-DT isn't showing it. http://assets.espn.go.com/espntv/topics/coveragemaps/102707ABCCFB12pm.jpg
mikepaul 10-27-07, 05:24 PM What you could have done is a "homerun". This is a hierarchal design where you assign the signal strength for each outlet by where it is in the hierarchy.
Ummm, the box outside just has a 4-out Antronix -7db splitter in it, so swapping the cables now would accomplish the same thing, right?
Do they do this sort of thing (meter each outlet, swap correct cable) for free on complaints or at least at a reasonable fee?
And does anyone know if another Antronix splitter inside the house would be as apparently transparent as the one outside? Or is it that the second splitter no matter what brand is just too much when the line signal drops?...
oceangrace24 10-27-07, 08:03 PM To the best of my knowledge the Rutgers/ WVU is supposed to be in HD, but WOLO-DT isn't showing it. http://assets.espn.go.com/espntv/topics/coveragemaps/102707ABCCFB12pm.jpg
The first part of the game was, but ABC hasn't been in HD since then.. The OSU-PSU game isn't right now..
kevinivey 10-27-07, 09:17 PM Too bad, looks like Wolo-DT dropped the ball, today.
LexHiDef 10-27-07, 09:19 PM Too bad, looks like Wolo-DT dropped the ball, today.
No!, that's imposterous!
bdfox18doe 10-29-07, 08:20 AM Too bad, looks like Wolo-DT dropped the ball, today.
If you call equipment failure "dropping the ball". We're having an intermittent timing issue in master control that prevents our taking the HD feed at times.
Granny says cable is still the way to go. ;)
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