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kevinivey
12-28-08, 04:28 PM
Backup!:) ,but if the weather turns bad not having that radar might put us all in peril. I noticed that Wolo-Dt and Wltx-dt are the only locals that come in clear qam, but adding in the ota with the tiVo over rides that tuning. When I get my cable cards on Saturday all will be well...... Ooops , when I get the sdv tuner next year then things will be indeed well.



I thought you would have a business class upload ?

bdfox18doe
12-28-08, 04:44 PM
Backup!:) ,I thought you would have a business class upload ?

Gotta do something, my Bell Louse has been intermittent last week or so, with
weak cell service here from AllSmell..and slow connect speeds last few days with my Verizon Air Card to boot. Trying to get U-Verse..but they can't find anyone who can tell me if and when I can get service here. I understand some of their staff have the same problem.

RobSC
12-28-08, 05:03 PM
Bear in mind that for optimum reception, you'll need at least an attic mount or outdoor antenna. WOLO-DT,and soon to be WIS-DT..are VHF, so you will need a VHF capable antenna.WOLO and WACH are located out at I-20 / Elgin on Rice Rd.
Let us know how you fare, there are many here that wil help you out.:)

It's interesting to me in Barnwell County approx. 72 miles from the Elgin towers with an attic mounted Radio Shack VU-190(?) (their fromer top U/V antenna) that I can regularly receive WLTX's digital channels but cannot receive anything on WOLO's signals. I would think that WOLO would have quite an advantage on Ch. 8 vs. the UHF frequencies for WLTX. I also can't receive WIS's digital (Ch. 41) FWIW.

bdfox18doe
12-28-08, 05:15 PM
I plotted 57 Wall St Barnwell Co 29812 on www.tvfool.com You probbaly won't get WOLO-DT there.

Suggest plotting you specific address there.

I do have a friend whose office is beside Carowinds...he gets WOLO-DT full time.

RobSC
12-28-08, 05:35 PM
Thank you Bob. I'm afraid I'm just out of range for a reliable signal.

jtbell
12-29-08, 09:40 AM
It's interesting to me in Barnwell County approx. 72 miles from the Elgin towers with an attic mounted Radio Shack VU-190(?) (their fromer top U/V antenna) that I can regularly receive WLTX's digital channels but cannot receive anything on WOLO's signals. I would think that WOLO would have quite an advantage on Ch. 8 vs. the UHF frequencies for WLTX. I also can't receive WIS's digital (Ch. 41) FWIW.

It could be the signal loss through the roof that attic installations always have. I used to have a Radio Shack VU-190XR on my roof at 68 miles, and it could usually pick up all four of the major networks, plus SCETV, from Columbia. WACH and WRLK were near the borderline for stable reception. WOLO was the best one except for local impulse noise which can easily mess up digital VHF signals.

Or you could be behind a nearby hill or rise in terrain.

Coop1979
12-30-08, 10:49 PM
Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere on AVS, but all Viacom channels are going to be pulled from TWC at 12:01am on January 1. Glad I don't have TWC anymore...

As a result, we are sorry to say that for Time Warner Cable customers our networks will go dark as of 12:01 on January 1st, denying Time Warner customers shows like Dora the Explorer, SpongeBob SquarePants, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart, The Colbert Report, and The Hills.

http://news.prnewswire.com/DisplayReleaseContent.aspx?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/12-30-2008/0004947904&EDATE=

kevinivey
12-31-08, 05:10 AM
Last time I checked those channels you post are not HD on TWC, so what's the point of your post in a Columbia HD thread. Be kind of like me posting during a thunderstorm saying "Damn I glad I do not have Dish anymore, because all I can get is searching for satellite issue on screen".

In other words BE HAPPY for what you have ,and do not worry about us poor ole cable folks. Viacom can go set with the NFL Network and asked them how it is to deal with TWC.


Edit: Looks llike the stellar Palladia is a viacom product, oh I think I can live without it for a while.

Gary J
12-31-08, 08:12 AM
Not sure if this has been posted elsewhere on AVS, but all Viacom channels are going to be pulled from TWC at 12:01am on January 1.

Thanks for the useful (and correct) information.

Rich_SC
12-31-08, 11:32 AM
No more Daily Show/Colbert...wow. Gonna be a lot of PO'd people. HD or not that would be a deal breaker for me.

hcour
12-31-08, 12:13 PM
Surely that can't last. Those are some of the most popular cable shows and stations - MTV, Comedy Central, Nickelodeon - those are standards, doesn't pretty much every tv service, cable or dish, carry those channels? I just can't see TWC not carrying those stations for long w/o some serious backlash.

ncxcstud
12-31-08, 12:14 PM
I think that's one of the many reasons why my father-in-law is switching to satellite (not sure which one yet for him).

He's been having some crazy problems with TWC lately... channels not showing up, crazy macro-blocking on SD channels, and now no Palladia? He loves that station.

All TWC tells him is to 'restart the box' which doesn't do anything. He needs to replace it, but with his bill approaching 150 dollars (with internet) and not nearly the same amount of channel offerings that I get through D* or his brother through E* (for much cheaper as well) he's looking to move on.

Rich_SC is right, there are giong to be a LOT of pissed off TWC customers come tomorrow when Comedy Central is no where to be found. Not to mention pissed off parents when Nickelodeon disappears...

Gary J
12-31-08, 12:43 PM
AVS needs a skip commercial button like Tivo!

wmbjr
12-31-08, 03:32 PM
All that will end up happening with the Viacom\TWC feud is TWC will hold out for a while, hear a few complaints, and then say because their subscribers want the channels it agreed to pay the money to Viacom. It will pay 20 cents per subscriber more for the channels and then raise the rates $2. The other option is people really don't care that much (like has apparently happened with the NFL network) and TWC will go on without Viacom's 16 or so channels.

gail2magic
01-01-09, 03:05 AM
Viacom, Time Warner Cable settle contract dispute

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=652328

kevincoleman
01-01-09, 11:11 AM
So does anyone know TWC's reasoning for not adding the MLB Network as an HD station? It seems like an odd decision, especially given that they have an ownership interest in the network. I honestly can't believe in 2009 you'd add a sports station and not offer the HD feed.

ncxcstud
01-01-09, 11:34 AM
kevin - I thought it was goign to be HD and be somewhere in the 900 range? Besides, it technically doesn't come 'online' until like 6PM tonight anyways correct?

scruffy7
01-01-09, 11:41 AM
MLB-HD is on 958.

scruffy7
01-01-09, 11:42 AM
Sent this out to TWC this afternoon.

Why is that TWC Carolinas has not been adding the new HD channels that other TWC division seem to be able to add? FX-HD, USA-HD, SCI FI-HD, and dozens more. Seems like when the Carolinas merged with TWCSC HD channels have stopped being added. TWCSC used to be proactive in trying to get HD channels up as soon as they were allowed. This is not the case anymore ,and I have been looking at switching to a more aggressive HD provider. Is there any reason to hope that TWC Carolinas will catch up with other TWC divisions in regards to HD in the near future?It should would make the annual TWC December price increase a little is easier to swallow.


ever get a reply on this?

kevinivey
01-01-09, 12:31 PM
ever get a reply on this?

Dear Mr. Ivey,

Thank you for contacting Time Warner Cable Support.

I understand that you want us to add more HD channels in your Channel line up as that of the other
division.

I apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. I will be glad to help you.

The recent channel line-up additions in your area are :

Dec. 18, 2008: My Life On Demand launches on Free On Demand Channel 1106.
Dec. 8, 2008: Versus HD and Golf Channel HD becomes two separate channels. Versus HD goes to
Channel 955 while Golf Channel HD remains on Channel 843.
Nov. 20, 2008: MGM replaces MOJO as part of HD Tier on Channel 940. Sprout launches on the Digital
Tier on Channel 100.
Oct. 29, 2008: Bio HD will launch on Digital Cable Channel 852. Speed HD will launch on Digital
Cable Channel 954.
Oct. 15, 2008: WJPM will replace WRJA on Cable Channel 12 in Florence, Darlington, Pamplico, Lake
City, Johnsonville and Hemingway.
Sept. 25, 2008: Big Ten Network will be available to Digital Sports & Games subscribers. Big Ten
Network is a 24-hr channel consisting of primarily of Big Ten Conference sporting events and sports
programming, as well as an amount of ancillary programming related to the Big Ten Conference member
universities, their students, communities and alumni. Coverage includes live telecasts of football,
basketball, baseball and Olympic sports.

Standard Definition: Channel 148
High Definition: Channel 956

For us, your satisfaction and issue resolution is most important.

We value you as a Customer.If you have any further questions or concerns, please feel free to
E-mail us again or contact our Live Chat at the following link:
http://www.timewarnercable.com/CustomerService/chat/chat.ashx

Customer Service is available 24 X 7.


Sincerely,
Lisa Ray

Time Warner Cable Online Customer Service

kevincoleman
01-01-09, 03:42 PM
MLB-HD is on 958.

D'oh!

I had gone to the MLB Network's page where you can search for your local channels, and the only thing that came up for TWC was the SD channel. I made the assumption that that was it, and you know how that goes...

Anyhow, thanks for the info!

jbrickas
01-03-09, 03:06 PM
AVS needs a skip commercial button like Tivo!

You can add a forum member's name to your ignore list.

Gary J
01-03-09, 04:55 PM
You can add a forum member's name to your ignore list.

Make another post so I can see if it works! :p

bdfox18doe
01-03-09, 05:11 PM
Make another post so I can see if it works! :p

He-He.. I saw that one coming..

Gary J
01-03-09, 05:22 PM
He-He.. I saw that one coming..

Picking on noobies... shame on me :D

bdfox18doe
01-03-09, 05:29 PM
Maybe you should post more Gary? :)

Gary J
01-03-09, 05:38 PM
Hey why isn't this NBC playoff game in DD?

dbrown2
01-05-09, 04:57 PM
I have TWC still, never switch to Uverse. I thought I would try QAM to my TV with a splitter. I had the TV scan through the channels and found a lot of digital channels over the 100 through 119 or so.

But a lot of the channels I get [E203]. I also find that it looks like movies channels on 109.2 and 108.x something.
Any idea what these are?

bdfox18doe
01-05-09, 05:53 PM
I have TWC still, never switch to Uverse

I want U-Verse at home to complement TWC,D*, E* and my other toys.
However, I have a friend in AT&T engineering who looked up my address witin the system, I'm 5000' from the V-Rad and it has to be 3000' or less to work. Oh well..:(

Gary J
01-05-09, 06:03 PM
Darn, you should move 2000' closer.

dbrown2
01-05-09, 09:56 PM
I think I am at least 5000 feet away too if the v-rad is where I think it is. But I have checked by phone and on their web page and they keep saying I can get it. Now if they would just fix their Total Home DVR and make it a total home DVR controlled in all rooms. Then I would switch.

IrmoSC
01-07-09, 09:46 AM
I think this was asked several pages back, but have not seen a response. Does anyone here actually have Uverse television, and if so, what is your perception relative to TWC (channels, HD quality, etc.). Would you recommend, or not recommend, a switch. I'm on TWC and in an area that can get Uverse. Thanks.

gail2magic
01-12-09, 12:16 PM
Raleigh is getting some new channels that we don't have in SC. Hopefully, they will be adding them for us too since we are now in the same division.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/10/time-warner-cable-adding-four-more-hd-networks-in-raleigh-nc/
Suggestion: Call TWC and ask for them.

February 13
USA HD
Bravo HD
CNBC HD
SciFi HD

They have been getting lots of stations lately that we already have.

jarredjw
01-12-09, 06:06 PM
Raleigh is getting some new channels that we don't have in SC. Hopefully, they will be adding them for us too since we are now in the same division.

Suggestion: Call TWC and ask for them.

February 13
USA HD
Bravo HD
CNBC HD
SciFi HD

They have been getting lots of stations lately that we already have.I hope so too!

tgr131
01-13-09, 09:57 AM
Just Curious about something...

If President-Elect Obama doesn't hold up the digital transition on 17 Feb, what will happen to the locals I get from Directv?

They don't provide them in HD, and I'm sure they are probably pulling in the OTA signal right now.

Will they pull in the HD signal, downconvert it to SD, and send it to me? At least I should get a widescreen signal then, correct? I use OTA for the main tv, but I'm using D*'s signal upstairs. It would be nice to at least get most programs in the proper ratio.

David

bdfox18doe
01-13-09, 09:59 AM
If President-Elect Obama doesn't hold up the digital transition on 17 Feb, what will happen to the locals I get from Directv?

David

Absolutely nothing. The DirecTv SD locals you get actually come from the HD signals, they are HD that's downconverted and centercut.

tgr131
01-13-09, 10:40 AM
Darn. I was hoping Nightly News would at least be widescreen - that's what we watch upstairs.

Wish they would get a move on those HD locals.

jmeetze
01-13-09, 03:52 PM
Sorry if this is a repeat question. I searched the threads for it. I read that local stations are not transmitting their OTA signals at full power which is why some people receive weak signals using OTA antennas. Is it true that after February 17th, stations will start transmitting their digital signals at full power thus improving signal strength? I ask because I'm right at the cusp of getting just enough of a signal to watch digital programming, but sometimes my signal does go in and out. Just curious if anyone has any information on this.

Thanks.

bdfox18doe
01-13-09, 03:58 PM
I read that local stations are not transmitting their OTA signals at full power which is why some people receive weak signals using OTA antennas. .

That would be incorrect in the case of WOLO-DT, which is operating at a maximized, fully liscensed power and has been since going on-air.

kevinivey
01-13-09, 06:09 PM
HD locals are not hard to pickup when using a outside mast style antenna. The only HD local that not 100% is Wach-Dt. I'm not sure if anyone can get them at 100%.

bdfox18doe
01-13-09, 06:52 PM
Is it true that after February 17th, stations will start transmitting their digital signals at full power thus improving signal strength? .

BTW, go plot your address at www.tvfool.com and you'll know what will happen with your reception.

IrmoSC
01-14-09, 12:32 PM
Question about DirectTV and HD in Columbia. From reading some of the messages here, and from talking to a friend, could someone confirm that you can't get the networks in HD in Columbia - only the local affiliates in standard definition (SD)? I understand you can get the local stations and their network HD broadcasts in HD in Charleston, Greenville, etc.. Is this true, and if so, could someone explain in not too technical terms why this is? Thanks!

jbrickas
01-14-09, 06:46 PM
Question about DirectTV and HD in Columbia. From reading some of the messages here, and from talking to a friend, could someone confirm that you can't get the networks in HD in Columbia - only the local affiliates in standard definition (SD)? I understand you can get the local stations and their network HD broadcasts in HD in Charleston, Greenville, etc.. Is this true, and if so, could someone explain in not too technical terms why this is? Thanks!

It is true, and the nontechnical reason is that DIRECTV has made the business decision not to offer the local channels in HD in Columbia yet.

gail2magic
01-16-09, 12:29 AM
Raleigh is getting some new channels that we don't have in SC. Hopefully, they will be adding them for us too since we are now in the same division.
http://www.engadgethd.com/2009/01/10/time-warner-cable-adding-four-more-hd-networks-in-raleigh-nc/
Suggestion: Call TWC and ask for them.

February 13
USA HD
Bravo HD
CNBC HD
SciFi HD

They have been getting lots of stations lately that we already have.

We are now also on the list to get these on the 13th..yeah :) Someone just sent me the info..ty ty.

rb9999
01-16-09, 11:12 PM
Is anyone else getting choppy sound on NBC? I get it on the Standard Def channel and the high def channel. It was happening yesterday on NBC Nightly News and I figured it was just a temporary problem. Then it was on the Today Show and NBC Nightly News again. The channel is unwatchable. It sounds like someone wiggling loose wires.

popweaverhdtv
01-17-09, 09:40 AM
Is anyone else getting choppy sound on NBC? I get it on the Standard Def channel and the high def channel. It was happening yesterday on NBC Nightly News and I figured it was just a temporary problem. Then it was on the Today Show and NBC Nightly News again. The channel is unwatchable. It sounds like someone wiggling loose wires.

Hmmm....WYFF was having the same issues on their HD Channel. Maybe it's a coincidence...or a network issue?

tgr131
01-17-09, 09:48 AM
Yes, I'm having the same issue on their Nightly News. I'm glad it's not me!

jarredjw
01-17-09, 10:08 AM
Yes, I'm having the same issue on their Nightly News. I'm glad it's not me!Same issues here. :(

jarredjw
01-17-09, 10:09 AM
We are now also on the list to get these on the 13th..yeah :) Someone just sent me the info..ty ty.Sweet! Thanks for update.:)

kevinivey
01-17-09, 04:56 PM
Wow, the audio for the Clemson Wake game is poor via Wolo-Dt. The Raycom game earlier was perfect.


edit: it most likely is their converting to 5.1 that is making it nasty. Sounds better using the tv speakers.

ncxcstud
01-18-09, 10:15 PM
It is true, and the nontechnical reason is that DIRECTV has made the business decision not to offer the local channels in HD in Columbia yet.

I have it on very, very good authority that Columbia is getting HD locals from D* during the first part of this year...

but, that could be anywhere between next week and June :(

bdfox18doe
01-19-09, 08:02 AM
edit: it most likely is their converting to 5.1 that is making it nasty. Sounds better using the tv speakers.

We have new upmix/processing/leveling equipment..that coupled with ABC using "circle surround" for that game seems to be affecting the upmix. I listened to DirecTv SD and it sounded pretty bad there. I'll have to get with the mfg and see what they say. All other ABC programming seem to be have been fine.

TechMan
01-20-09, 03:01 AM
As of last night (Monday 1/19) CW 47 has began broadcasting OTA on 47-1. Did not get a chance to see if they are doing HD content yet. :)

jtbell
01-20-09, 08:00 AM
Which presumably means they've shut down the analog signal on 47. They didn't have a second channel for digital because they came along after the digital channels were handed out.

No sign of WZRB here, which doesn't surprise me. It's swamped out by WJZY in Charlotte, which uses 47 for digital. In the past, I've occasionally been able to make out a very faint analog picture in the snow when I aim my antenna towards Columbia. Now, on the digital side, I just see WJZY with a somewhat reduced signal quality when I aim towards Columbia.

Analog service contour map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=TV1038631.html)

Digital service contour map (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1250103.html)

kevinivey
01-20-09, 08:03 PM
As of last night (Monday 1/19) CW 47 has began broadcasting OTA on 47-1. Did not get a chance to see if they are doing HD content yet. :)

no HD, just digital sd with DD 2.0 .

moedog
01-20-09, 09:06 PM
WRBJ's sister station in Jackson MS (CW34/WRBJ) made the hop from analog to digital last Friday. I'm sure this company is not too happy about the attempt to delay the transition...

jbrickas
01-21-09, 09:27 AM
I have it on very, very good authority that Columbia is getting HD locals from D* during the first part of this year...

but, that could be anywhere between next week and June :(

Here's the list of upcoming HD local rollouts from DIRECTV's website:

Bangor ME Q1 09
Beaumont-Port Arthur TX Q1 09
Butte-Bozeman MT Q1 09
Dothan AL Q1 09
Harrisonburg VA Q1 09
Odessa TX Q1 09
Palm Springs CA Q1 09
Wausau-Rhinelander WI Jan 09

mustangjf
01-22-09, 12:12 PM
That would be incorrect in the case of WOLO-DT, which is operating at a maximized, fully liscensed power and has been since going on-air.
If this is the case, Then why is WOLO-DT the only station I get the weakest (mostly non-existent) signal from? I get teh other Columbia Stations fine - Full Strength Signal. Are not the towers in pretty much the same place?

bdfox18doe
01-22-09, 12:27 PM
If this is the case, Then why is WOLO-DT the only station I get the weakest (mostly non-existent) signal from? I get teh other Columbia Stations fine - Full Strength Signal. Are not the towers in pretty much the same place?

Your antenna is not true-VHF and has poor sensitivity on Channel 8.
We have full time viewers who get us 68 miles away.

WIS is going back to VHF-10 so you will have same problem then.

tgr131
01-22-09, 01:58 PM
If the new administration delays the switch over, will WIS still move to VHF?

David

bdfox18doe
01-22-09, 02:22 PM
If the new administration delays the switch over, will WIS still move to VHF?David

Eventually yes, and maybe sooner if they can;t undo everything they need to do to make the change in February. That's a question only WIS can answer.

Trip in VA
01-22-09, 02:27 PM
WIS will relocate to channel 10 whenever the transition occurs.

- Trip

dmstewart1952
01-22-09, 03:03 PM
I read in different forums about stations moving after the transition back to their old channels, but I thought the end result of this exercise was going to free up some frequencies that the FCC was going to auction off, (ie the old vhf frequencies). Is this not the case anymore??

Trip in VA
01-22-09, 03:05 PM
UHF channels 52-69 are going away. Not the VHF channels.

- Trip

rls976
01-22-09, 03:06 PM
I cannot quite believe WIS will accept a DT signal strength on channel 10 of 9,200 watts. WOLO-DT ch. 8, at a lower frequency - thus longer wavelength - is 43,700 watts, and transmits from at least 150 feet higher than WIS-DT ch. 10 will. Here in North Charleston, using a Winegard 7698 VHF/UHF antenna I get strong reception of WLTX-DT ch. 17 (16 to 33dB, depending on atmospheric conditions). WOLO-DT comes in grequently - usually no stronger than 27dB. WACH-DT ch. 48 comes in less frequently than WOLO-DT (usually no more than 22dB), and I receive WIS-DT (ch. 41, 874kw) very very seldom - perhaps once or twice per month. WIS-DT ch.10, at 9,200 watts, will not outperform WIS-DT ch. 41 at 874,000 watts.

jtbell
01-22-09, 04:07 PM
WIS-DT ch.10, at 9,200 watts, will not outperform WIS-DT ch. 41 at 874,000 watts.

According to the FCC service area maps, it will be pretty close:

WIS-DT 41 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT626664.html)

WIS-DT 10 (http://www.fcc.gov/fcc-bin/FMTV-service-area?x=DT1233135.html)

ncxcstud
01-22-09, 06:27 PM
If this is the case, Then why is WOLO-DT the only station I get the weakest (mostly non-existent) signal from? I get teh other Columbia Stations fine - Full Strength Signal. Are not the towers in pretty much the same place?

In Lexington, with an indoor antenna, I get ABC (WOLO) fine. At times its a bit more 'finicky' then the other stations but I'd say 85% I've got a pristine picture :)

More than likely it is BECAUSE WOLO is VHF that you're having trouble getting it unlike with the rest of the UHF stations. Which is pretty much the same thing that bdfox18doe said

ncxcstud
01-25-09, 11:15 PM
Anyone else having major troubles with TWC in the Columbia/Lexington area? My father-in-law is about at his wits end with TWC. Tonight, around 6:30-7:15 we could watch any HD channel...7:45-8:00 came around and about 10 channels showed the 'Service unavailable' message...

Would this be a result of SDV? No matter what we did tonight, I couldn't get those stations to 'kick in' at all...

Stations that he couldn't get tonight (and he swears it happens every night around the same time...)

ESPN2
ESPNU
HBO2
MX1
MX2
ScienceHD
MLBHD
LMNHD

There were a few others as well (i just can't remember them at the moment) Though there were quite a few more than what I've listed... anyone else having the same problems lately or is this something he actually needs TWC to come out for (he's already called and been told to disconnect the box and reconnect everything and the problem is still rearing its ugly head).

Gary J
01-26-09, 08:25 AM
Roll trucks!

jarredjw
01-27-09, 09:16 PM
Anyone else having major troubles with TWC in the Columbia/Lexington area? My father-in-law is about at his wits end with TWC. Tonight, around 6:30-7:15 we could watch any HD channel...7:45-8:00 came around and about 10 channels showed the 'Service unavailable' message...

Would this be a result of SDV? No matter what we did tonight, I couldn't get those stations to 'kick in' at all...

Stations that he couldn't get tonight (and he swears it happens every night around the same time...)

ESPN2
ESPNU
HBO2
MX1
MX2
ScienceHD
MLBHD
LMNHD

There were a few others as well (i just can't remember them at the moment) Though there were quite a few more than what I've listed... anyone else having the same problems lately or is this something he actually needs TWC to come out for (he's already called and been told to disconnect the box and reconnect everything and the problem is still rearing its ugly head).I was having issues as well. I was able to watch those channels you listed during that time, but the picture would black out every 3-5 seconds for half a second and return back. CNNHD and LMNHD were channels that were unavailable.

Just now TBSHD was broadcasting History HD (was trying to watch Family Guy). Very odd.

I don't know what's going on with TWC.:confused:

LexHiDef
01-31-09, 02:28 PM
if WIS will tone down the weather channel during the game tomorrow night?

Let's hope so.

kevinivey
01-31-09, 03:10 PM
Doubtful, they are not that great at even broadcasting HD when available. Today's, USC UK is being broadcasting in HD by Raycom, but Wis is not broadcasting it in HD. However, in my opinion Sunday Night Football via NBC and Wis is the best HD NFL broadcast by quite a bit.

Cain
01-31-09, 03:16 PM
I see that the game with Kentucky is in HD on Raycom, but apparently WIS has not switched it to HD??

does anyone know anyone at WIS to get them to switch the basketball game on to HD???

ncxcstud
01-31-09, 05:02 PM
Well, now we have HD...just no sound...its sad that the HD didn't switch over until 1:09 left in the game.....

22.2 left,we go back to no HD but have sound...

kevinivey
01-31-09, 05:17 PM
My guess: they had the automated switch set for the NBC network feed at 5 pm. When they switched at 5 to the HD feed the Raycom feed was still there ,but the audio didn't sync because the constant fake DD 5.1.

Very poor job by WIS.

Cain
01-31-09, 07:15 PM
That stunk ... Great game would have love to have seen it in HD ...

kevinivey
02-01-09, 12:17 PM
Looks like the next USC Raycom HD is Feb. 25th. They most likely will need a friendly reminder.

Cain
02-03-09, 04:45 AM
Does anyone know any future games for USC that will be on TV, and in HD ??

IrmoGamecoq
02-03-09, 07:53 AM
Tonight's 9pm game against UF is on ESPN-HD.

Cain
02-03-09, 12:23 PM
Great !! Thx !!

jtbell
02-03-09, 11:11 PM
According to http://www.rabbitears.info/termlist.php, so far WOLO (ABC), WKTC (MyNetwork) and WRLK (SCETV) plan to shut down their analog signals on 2/17 (two weeks from tonight), regardless of what Congress does about extending the transition deadline.

ncxcstud
02-05-09, 08:45 PM
Hmm...seems WIS-TV is having some major troubles...

Enough so that DirecTV tells people to watch channel 382 or 383

http://www.wistv.com/Global/story.asp?S=9798352

Their having a digital power outage...SCE&G is on the scene... wonder how long it'll take to get back up...

ncxcstud
02-07-09, 05:08 PM
Boo

USC-Georgia game isn't in HD :( even though its on FSSHD :(

bdfox18doe
02-07-09, 05:13 PM
Boo

USC-Georgia game isn't in HD :(

Probably best not to see USC lose in HD anyway. :D

ncxcstud
02-07-09, 05:31 PM
Probably best not to see USC lose in HD anyway. :D


Someone hasn't been paying attention to this basketball season then ;)

Its 34-14 with 8:01 left...USC in the lead ;)

Georgia STINKS at basketball, and surprisingly USC is pretty decent this year so far

bdfox18doe
02-07-09, 05:46 PM
Someone hasn't been paying attention to this basketball season then ;)

yea..just a chance to jab ya bout USC.. :)

kevinivey
02-08-09, 01:50 PM
I have been getting video and audio glitches via TWC. However, my ota is rock solid. Anyone else having these issues?

jtbell
02-08-09, 02:34 PM
According to http://www.rabbitears.info/termlist.php, so far WOLO (ABC), WKTC (MyNetwork) and WRLK (SCETV) plan to shut down their analog signals on 2/17 (two weeks from tonight), regardless of what Congress does about extending the transition deadline.

Looks like WOLO changed its mind after announcing on Wednesday night's 11 PM news that they would shut off analog on 2/17. The Web site now says 6/12, and the countdown clock has been reset accordingly. My recording of Wednesday's announcement is now a historical curiosity. :p

So it looks like the "big four" stations (WIS, WLTX, WOLO, WACH) will keep going in analog here until 6/12.

WKTC (My63) filed an application with the FCC about a week ago, to shut down analog on 2/17, out of an "abundance of caution" because of the bill that was then still in the works in Congress, to postpone the shutdown date to 6/12.

WRLK will shut down analog on 2/17, along with all the other SC ETV stations.

And WZRB (CW 47) has already shut down analog and started its digital signal on 47, according to reports here.

bdfox18doe
02-08-09, 04:10 PM
Well Kevin-
I guess one should care about WIS' analog signal..since they will be moving their DT back to channel 10 once they are off analog.

kevinivey
02-08-09, 04:50 PM
that's why my post was deleted prior to your post. (-:

bdfox18doe
02-08-09, 07:10 PM
When one subs to a thread, you usually get the posts despite deletion. ;)

kevinivey
02-08-09, 09:32 PM
Yes I was aware of such, but again there was a reason as to why it was deleted.

LexHiDef
02-08-09, 10:15 PM
I have been getting video and audio glitches via TWC. However, my ota is rock solid. Anyone else having these issues?

I was getting it last night during the race and today during time trials.

I was also getting lots of "Initializing, please wait...." blue screens and then the dreaded "Channel Not Available" today on several stations. I unplugged and then re-plugged my 8300 and all seems to be well now.

kevinivey
02-09-09, 06:08 AM
thanks for your reply.

jmeetze
02-12-09, 12:27 PM
Has anyone noticed that WIS has had some issues with their HD signal recently? It's very sporatic, but every now and then you get a sort of jitter or as I like to call it, "packet loss". I have Dish Network and an OTA and have noticed this happening through my Dish HD channel and my OTA channel so I'm assuming it's something that everyone is experiencing.

Nucleartiger
02-12-09, 01:55 PM
Any news on DirecTV providing the locals in HD?

ncxcstud
02-12-09, 05:14 PM
Any news on DirecTV providing the locals in HD?

We'll have them by June from what I hear (from an incredibly reliable source that isn't a CSR on the phone).

LexHiDef
02-12-09, 10:33 PM
Has anyone noticed that WIS has had some issues with their HD signal recently? It's very sporatic, but every now and then you get a sort of jitter or as I like to call it, "packet loss". I have Dish Network and an OTA and have noticed this happening through my Dish HD channel and my OTA channel so I'm assuming it's something that everyone is experiencing.

Yes. Noticed that and sound issues, too.

The strange thing is, not only did I get the sound issues on my HDTV, they are happening on a regular ole 27" JVC tv in the bed room where the cable is hooked straight into the TV.

bdfox18doe
02-13-09, 07:29 AM
The strange thing is, not only did I get the sound issues on my HDTV, they are happening on a regular ole 27" JVC tv in the bed room where the cable is hooked straight into the TV.


Yep.. as the analog channels on TWC are now derived from the HD feeds.

jarredjw
02-13-09, 07:45 AM
USA, SciFi, CNBC, and Bravo HD are now live here in SC. So far, I'm not impressed with the picture quality on USAHD. The picture looks really compressed on HD programming (watched "Psych" for a few mins). I really hope it's not going to remain this way.:(

Gary J
02-13-09, 09:02 AM
CNBC

Now I can see how much I'm losing every day in HD!

bdfox18doe
02-13-09, 09:09 AM
Now I can see how much I'm losing every day in HD!

Then watch USA and SCIFi for the endless promos, snipes, logos, and crawls..interspersed with small segments of the program. :rolleyes:

Gary J
02-13-09, 09:11 AM
Every switch to them so far I have yet to see programming!

jarredjw
02-13-09, 05:02 PM
Now I can see how much I'm losing every day in HD!LOL. ;)

USAHD is looking better. Doesn't look as compressed as it did earlier.

jrolin1
02-13-09, 06:23 PM
Sci-fi and bravo don't appear to be HD for me. The Shining is 4:3 and Stargate is blackbar all around just like the regular channels. Is anyone getting different results?

Cain
02-13-09, 07:33 PM
Do we know anyone at WIS to make sure they turn ON the HD signal for the USC Alabama game tomorrow afternoon ??

We missed the Ky game in HD...

jrolin1
02-13-09, 08:31 PM
They (sci-fi and Bravo) are in HD now.

ncxcstud
02-14-09, 09:15 AM
Just so you know....just because its SCIFI HD, doesn't mean everything will be in HD...

For example, HDNet shows Enterprise in HD, but SCIFI doesn't because they don't have the distribution rights for the HD version of Enterprise...

But, all of the Battlestar Galactica episodes are in HD

Ty_SC
02-14-09, 10:39 AM
Will WIS, WLTX, WOLO or WACH ever have their local news in High Def?

kevinivey
02-14-09, 11:02 AM
ever, yes. In this economy, doubtful.

RobSC
02-14-09, 11:57 AM
Will WIS, WLTX, WOLO or WACH ever have their local news in High Def?

Was in Charleston earlier this week and saw WCSC's local newscasts in HD - impressive!

kevinivey
02-14-09, 03:07 PM
Do we know anyone at WIS to make sure they turn ON the HD signal for the USC Alabama game tomorrow afternoon ??

We missed the Ky game in HD...


the only guide I saw that said it was HD is the one on the Wis website.
My TiVo guide does not say HD ,and I could not find anything from Raycom saying that this is a HD game. They still do a lot of games in their awful SD 4.3. They also did not say the game was available in HD at the beginning of Today's game.
http://www.raycomsports.com/index.php/InfoCenter/upcoming-games.html

Cain
02-14-09, 03:31 PM
So the game may not be in HD?? I called them just a while ago and asked them to switch the HD on, and the lady said she would "call the control room"....

Perhaps it is not in HD?? I thought their weekend SEC games were ??

kevinivey
02-14-09, 03:36 PM
So the game may not be in HD?? I called them just a while ago and asked them to switch the HD on, and the lady said she would "call the control room"....

Perhaps it is not in HD?? I thought their weekend SEC games were ??


Remember they do ACC games ,and the ACC game earlier was in HD.

the only mistake today is the guide service Wis uses for online guide.


This game is not in HD ,and was never supposed to be. Click the link, the game on the 25th is a SC HD game.

Cain
02-14-09, 04:09 PM
Bummer... Thx...

tgr131
02-14-09, 05:33 PM
Boy, been having a lot of trouble wis NBC nightly news audio. Last night, the intro music was drowning out Brian Williams. Had a lot of skips and dropouts lately, but 7 o'clock report right after is fine.

Nucleartiger
02-15-09, 02:57 PM
Is WACH 57 pixelating badly for anyone else right now? I am watching via DirecTV but I have good strong satellite signal and I don't have any pixelation on any other channel.

kevinivey
02-15-09, 03:02 PM
ota is bad for Wach, but is perfect via TWC. TWC receives Wach via fiber. You saying watching via D*, but I assume you meant ota via the D* stb internal tuner.

kehi
02-15-09, 05:32 PM
OTA 57.1 WACH has bad pixelation today for the Daytona 500. I live in Sumter, all other channels are fine today. Most the the time 57.1 is ok, but not today

kevinivey
02-15-09, 07:18 PM
again, no issues at all with the cable feed, but the ota is a mess. Last week the exact opposite was the case. Go figure.

oceangrace24
02-16-09, 08:34 AM
I have Dish network and my WACH HD feed via Dish was having issues during the race yesterday also. I also had the same issues with WACH either last week or the week before when we recorded American Idol and Lie to Me.
Since others are having issues, that means my dish is fine, it is just the signal that DISH is getting from WACH..

Nucleartiger
02-16-09, 11:49 AM
ota is bad for Wach, but is perfect via TWC. TWC receives Wach via fiber. You saying watching via D*, but I assume you meant ota via the D* stb internal tuner.

Nope I am talking about through the actual DirecTV local feed. I tuned it over to FoxWHD channel 399 (turned on for the race by DirecTV) and there were no pixelation of any kind. I guess DirecTV takes the WACH signal from OTA and provides that as its local feed since all other channels looked great.

sbennett
02-16-09, 06:11 PM
SCETV DTV Update

I should have posted this information sooner, but I have not been on the forums lately. I apologize for waiting until the last moment for disseminating this news.

As most of you are aware, SCETV has chosen to shut down our eleven analog transmitters around the state on the original DTV transition date of February 17th ~ 11:59:59PM. At the same time, we will also change our service lineup in our transport stream for our DTV signal. This will more than likely require a channel rescan. Our new lineup will be the following:

Program 1: ETV – HD, Main Programming
Program 2: SCC – SD ,South Carolina Channel
Program 3: ETVW – SD, ETV World

Originally, we were going to drop one of our SD services during this transition, but that decision has been changed.

Also, with our analog signal going away, we will no longer support Gemstar/Macrovision TVGOS. There is some limited information that can be found here: http://www.macrovision.com/dtv/10053.htm?link_id=rightPromo

Again, I am sorry for getting this information out at such a late date. If you are experiencing any issues with receiving our signal, contact information can be found at http://www.scetv.org/television/dtv/. We have an 888 number set up, and you are welcome to send me a message.

Since I am posting this in multiple forums for our stations around the state, I wanted to remind WITV viewers that we will be changing from RF channel UHF 49 to channel VHF 7.

Thanks for you patience.

-Shaun

Trip in VA
02-16-09, 06:37 PM
Is anyone in the area observing a 10-3?

- Trip

ScottHD
02-16-09, 11:00 PM
Thanks for the SCETV information Shaun.

I was just digging around the forum to see what, if any, stations here in Columbia would be making the switch for sure on Feb. 17th.

mikepaul
02-17-09, 12:12 PM
I noticed some talk here recently about audio issues on the HD channels. Mine seem to invove the audio dropping out for a moment then coming back, and it happens fairly often each hour. Is that consistent with the other reported issues?

The new HDTV has always had a problem when changing channels where some of them have no audio for a moment, but it had always been just when tuing in, and I'm worried the problem is getting worse.

Thanks...

Gary J
02-17-09, 12:23 PM
Yes, it's kind of like words with missing letters.

bdfox18doe
02-17-09, 12:27 PM
Mine seem to invove the audio dropping out for a moment then coming back, and it happens fairly often each hour. .

You been watching Jerry Springer again? It's supposed to be that way..:D

sbennett
02-18-09, 12:36 AM
Our DTV encoder upgrade and service lineup changes are complete.

-Shaun

kevinivey
02-18-09, 06:22 PM
Our DTV encoder upgrade and service lineup changes are complete.

-Shaun


I am not sure how TWC gets your signal, but they have it all screwed up. The audio does not match the channels ,and picture is breaking up on the subs.
OTA looks perfect.

bdfox18doe
02-19-09, 03:45 PM
We at WOLO-DT have been making changes in our encoding equipment.
All should be fine, if not let us know (not that you wouldn't anyway) :)

jtbell
02-20-09, 12:40 AM
I see a new subchannel with Spanish audio, and the same video as 25.1. But is it really supposed to be 25.9?

Or are you going to add more subchannels with other languages? :D

TechMan
02-20-09, 01:37 AM
Bob

My PC OTA tuner freezes on 8-1 and 25-9 on the WOLO channels. I has rescaned and it shows 8-1 , 25-3, 25-9.

kevinivey
02-22-09, 05:13 PM
You would think by now things like this would not happen, but looks like WACH-DT is no go for HD for today's Nascar race.

bdfox18doe
02-22-09, 05:18 PM
looks like WACH-DT is no go for HD for today's Nascar race.


May not be WACH..Had problems here too. :mad:

kevinivey
02-22-09, 05:22 PM
I did not catch the beginning. Was it a splicer issue ,and has it been fixed up there for you?

bdfox18doe
02-22-09, 05:26 PM
Was it a splicer issue ,and has it been fixed up there for you?

Splicer would not "splice to net".. had to power cycle to restore. Seems fine now and FOX is dialed in remotely looking at it.

kevinivey
02-22-09, 05:41 PM
Thanks, to bad there is no one here locally that could do that for us.



Switched to HD @ 6:05!!!!!!!!!

bdfox18doe
02-22-09, 06:37 PM
Thanks, to bad there is no one here locally that could do that for us. Switched to HD @ 6:05!!!!!!!!!

I will pass that on to FOX when they call me back. Truth be known, I can reboot or switch most of the stuff from my laptop sitting in the recliner.:(

LexHiDef
02-22-09, 06:50 PM
Was everyone else getting the "hiccups" in the sound and some pixelation in the golf yesterday and today?

It's annoying. I don't see how it could be that difficult to fix. Oh well.

kevinivey
02-22-09, 06:51 PM
I jumped the gun a little. I emailed Phil Shreves@ Wach ,and he said they had issues for the prerace, but said it would switch to HD before the race started . It did as he said ,and I am impressed with his timely response. Now it would be great if someone at Wis would be as responsive.

Cain
02-25-09, 08:37 AM
Is our basketball game tonight against Kentucky going to be in HD here locally ??

If yes, what channel on TWC will it be shown in HD ???

TIA

ncxcstud
02-25-09, 10:06 AM
It will be on Fox Sports Carolina...channel 648 on DirecTV...but it isn't listed as HD though :(

IrmoGamecoq
02-25-09, 12:17 PM
Channel 31 on TWC-SC.

Cain
02-25-09, 02:20 PM
Bummer, so no HD tonight, on TWC eh ??

I see it is listed as a HD game on the Raycom Site.

http://www.raycomsports.com/SECbb09-kyusc.pdf

bdfox18doe
02-25-09, 02:37 PM
I see it is listed as a HD game on the Raycom Site. HD at my house.. :D

kevinivey
02-25-09, 04:28 PM
Is our basketball game tonight against Kentucky going to be in HD here locally ??

If yes, what channel on TWC will it be shown in HD ???

TIA


Should be in HD on Channel 812 Special Events in HD. The used to have a listing on the TWC website, but since things are now run in Charlotte the listing is no longer published.

There however several factors that may lead to not being able to see this channel.

1. TiVo HD can not tune this channel.
2. To many TWC HD subs in your area trying are to watch the game at the same time you are trying.
3. No one locally at TWC able to program the game into the auto timer.

Bottom line is channel 812 is a switched channel and anything is possible.

Channel 812 almost always runs the FSN HD feed when there is a HD game on. This however is a Raycom game that was moved to FSN, so who really knows. Someone post so that I will know ,because I only have a HD TiVo .:eek:

Cain
02-25-09, 05:18 PM
Kevin you ROCK Buddy !!

I'll check it out tonight ..

kevinivey
02-25-09, 05:19 PM
that's to be determined:)

Cain
02-25-09, 06:16 PM
Hey Kevin ??

812 is the WIS Weather channel, did you mean 813 perhaps ??

kevinivey
02-25-09, 07:39 PM
oops, yes

Cain
02-25-09, 08:06 PM
Do we know someone we can call to get them to switch the HD on on 813 ????

:(

topher57
02-26-09, 08:09 AM
If you have a qam tuner on your tv, and can pick up the charleston tv stations, cbs and or fox, one of them always has the raycom games in HD, that's where I have watched the last couple of games.

IrmoGamecoq
02-27-09, 07:24 AM
Obviously too late now, but I didn't check back in this thread until now...was the game on Ch 813 in HD?

topher57
02-27-09, 08:44 AM
No, It was nowhere to be found on TWC in HD. OTA only or QAM

IrmoGamecoq
02-27-09, 09:59 AM
Thanks.

I'm assuming this Saturday's UT game will be in HD since it's on ESPN?

gamesc
02-27-09, 10:29 AM
Thanks.

I'm assuming this Saturday's UT game will be in HD since it's on ESPN?

Game is at Vanderbilt and is in Crystal Clear ESPNU HD :)

IrmoGamecoq
02-27-09, 11:15 AM
You're right, I mis-stated...UT is next Thursday. That's good news about Vandy though too!

kevinivey
02-27-09, 11:47 AM
OTA only or QAM

not in Columbia, SC.

Trip in VA
03-06-09, 12:53 AM
Holy power boost, Batman, WIS-DT has applied to maximize to 57 kW on channel 10!

- Trip

jtbell
03-06-09, 08:37 AM
Way to go! If WIS gets their wish, it will push their service contour out about ten miles and make me safe from "TV band devices" (a.k.a. "white space devices") on channel 10, like I already am on 8 (WOLO).

kevinivey
03-06-09, 05:14 PM
yall do realise that Wis has had time broadcasting a program entirely in HD? They also have issues with broadcasting the center channel audio at times as well. I would option for a alternative NBC HD if you have the means.

Grath
03-06-09, 11:24 PM
Anyone else seeing some teen program called "Whatever" on TWC 811 in Lexington where the WLTX doppler feed should be? It seems to be some show out of KARE 11 in Minneapolis-St. Paul. The station is Gannett owned so perhaps this is intentional? Guide information from TWC shows that it should still be the doppler radar.

Strange.

gamesc
03-07-09, 04:10 AM
Anyone else seeing some teen program called "Whatever" on TWC 811 in Lexington where the WLTX doppler feed should be? It seems to be some show out of KARE 11 in Minneapolis-St. Paul. The station is Gannett owned so perhaps this is intentional? Guide information from TWC shows that it should still be the doppler radar.

Strange.

I have occasionally flipped right through that and noticed the same thing. Even at 4:00am .. its been airing programming all day Friday too. The "Whatever" program is what is airing at this hour... and I am quite curious as to what else will be airing if this continues.

I do know they will be using all three digital channels for NCAA Basketball in a couple weeks (hopefully in all of them in high definition) and I do wish they would add a fourth channel temporarily so we can get all four first round games that air during the afternoon and evenings.

courier72
03-07-09, 09:07 AM
Anyone else seeing some teen program called "Whatever" on TWC 811 in Lexington where the WLTX doppler feed should be? It seems to be some show out of KARE 11 in Minneapolis-St. Paul. The station is Gannett owned so perhaps this is intentional? Guide information from TWC shows that it should still be the doppler radar.

Strange.
I think WLTX is running it to fulfill their educational and informational programming requirements.

gamesc
03-07-09, 09:59 AM
I think WLTX is running it to fulfill their educational and informational programming requirements.

that makes no sense because its been running like this since early Friday. :confused:

Grath
03-07-09, 04:52 PM
I think WLTX is running it to fulfill their educational and informational programming requirements.

Now that you mention it I think all of the programming I have seen has the "E/I" logo in the corner. After the "Whatever" show last night they were feeding the CBS "Koolopolis" programming that normally airs on Saturday mornings.

Anyone receiving OTA see what PSIP is being fed?

LexHiDef
03-07-09, 06:38 PM
Am I the only one who's getting lots of hiccups on WLTX (810) and WIS (805)?

bdfox18doe
03-07-09, 06:58 PM
Am I the only one who's getting lots of hiccups on WLTX (810) and WIS (805)?

yell boo! at the converter box and scare it really good.. that should fix it...:)

LexHiDef
03-07-09, 07:54 PM
yell boo! at the converter box and scare it really good.. that should fix it...:)

I think I need to yell BOO! at the stations. It's only happening on those 2 channels. The rest are OK.

Any more intelligent offerings?

kevinivey
03-07-09, 07:55 PM
Am I the only one who's getting lots of hiccups on WLTX (810) and WIS (805)?


been that way for a while . Wltx is audio is horrible, and Wis audio is spotty at best. OTA matches cable.

Ty_SC
03-07-09, 08:02 PM
I have also been getting "hiccups" on TWC CH 810 (CBS HD). I wonder if it is a WLTX problem or a TWC problem. Haven't watched any HD programming on 805 lately, so I can't attest whether they are having audio problems also.

At least the static is gone on WLTX, Thank the Lord. I can deal with hiccups anyday verses that horrible static they used to have.

LexHiDef
03-07-09, 09:01 PM
I have also been getting "hiccups" on TWC CH 810 (CBS HD). I wonder if it is a WLTX problem or a TWC problem. Haven't watched any HD programming on 805 lately, so I can't attest whether they are having audio problems also.

At least the static is gone on WLTX, Thank the Lord. I can deal with hiccups anyday verses that horrible static they used to have.

Seems like it's gotta be WLTX since most other channels/stations aren't that way.

Also seems like it(s) worse/happens more during sporting events.

I did unplug/re-plug/re-boot my box tonight and it SEEMS that may have helped.

kevinivey
03-07-09, 09:38 PM
Wltx has had audio issues since last weekend. shows up ota ,and via cable.

LexHiDef
03-08-09, 02:48 PM
WLTX and WIS have audio issues and WACH doesn't know when to flip the HD switch.

What do we have to do to get some quality HD tv around here?

Cain
03-09-09, 07:18 AM
Will the SEC basketball Tourney game this Friday at 3:15 be in HD ???

Anyone know ???

tgr131
03-09-09, 12:42 PM
It really was a mixed bag. I was getting surround (an annoying guy was yelling in my back right spkr), but I was getting audio dropouts every few minutes that were very distracting. This was OTA, fed into my HR20.

David

bdfox18doe
03-09-09, 12:49 PM
. (an annoying guy was yelling in my back right spkr), David

yea..had to explain to wifey once how those f-bombs kept getting into the left rear speaker. :o

frances50
03-09-09, 01:34 PM
Does anyone know if WLTX is transmitting the digital data stream for TVGOS in the Columbia, S.C. area?

TechMan
03-10-09, 03:35 AM
I think it was PBS, but they quit I hope WLTX picked it up.

frances50
03-10-09, 07:10 AM
I was asking if WLTX picked up the digital feed for TVGOS in the Columbia, S.C. area because I lost my TVGOS when PBS dropped their analog. Cannot get anyone at WLTX to call me back regarding this query. LG Electronics, likewise, took my info but has not called me back.

David-the-dtv-ma
03-10-09, 11:45 AM
I think I need to yell BOO! at the stations. It's only happening on those 2 channels. The rest are OK.

Any more intelligent offerings?


It is not the stations fault.

Call TWC & say " you are going to be replaced with an antenna" & then use your monthly cable money to pay off your dept.

jtbell
03-10-09, 03:16 PM
Does anyone know if WLTX is transmitting the digital data stream for TVGOS in the Columbia, S.C. area?

I have a Sony HD DVR that uses TVGOS. According to the "G* Factory Test" in a hidden service menu, WLTX-DT is sending data packets in the data stream that digital TVGOS uses.

I haven't tried to get my DVR to use digital TVGOS yet because these units strongly prefer to lock onto an analog channel for TVGOS, and WUNF (UNC-TV) in Asheville is still running its analog transmitter and sending analog TVGOS.

I haven't seen any reports from people who are using WLTX-DT for digital TVGOS, or have tried to use it. A search shows that a couple of people here have mentioned using analog TVGOS, but that was a while ago.

LexHiDef
03-10-09, 06:45 PM
It is not the stations fault.

Call TWC & say " you are going to be replaced with an antenna" & then use your monthly cable money to pay off your dept.

It's not the station's fault? It's well documented here that the problem is happening OTA and via cable. I think it's also TWC's fault. They are delivering a faulty product made by the stations.

I guess it also wasn't WACH's fault that the race Sunday was late being broadcast in HD.

Oh, and I don't have a "dept" to pay off.

bdfox18doe
03-10-09, 08:41 PM
I guess it also wasn't WACH's fault that the race Sunday was late being broadcast in HD..

It was not. Due to spring solar transit outages, FOX TOC instructs stations to start on the backup feed until the outage passes. However, some stations, such as us, choose not to do so. :)

David-the-dtv-ma
03-10-09, 10:29 PM
It's not the station's fault? It's well documented here that the problem is happening OTA and via cable. I think it's also TWC's fault. They are delivering a faulty product made by the stations.

I guess it also wasn't WACH's fault that the race Sunday was late being broadcast in HD.

Oh, and I don't have a "dept" to pay off.


Then you have some money to put into wall street. They need some investers. that is what the pres ask folks to do. He said that it will pay off in the long run

LexHiDef
03-10-09, 10:53 PM
Then you have some money to put into wall street. They need some investers. that is what the pres ask folks to do. He said that it will pay off in the long run

Looks like someone should have invested some money in education.

Cain
03-11-09, 05:02 AM
Will the SEC basketball Tourney game this Friday at 3:15 be in HD ???

Anyone know ???


OK I found out:

1) the game is on Raycom
2) It will be in HD...

Does anyone here know someone at TWC so we can get them to put the HD version on channel 813 or 814 ??

We need to work on this now.......

:D

David-the-dtv-ma
03-11-09, 02:23 PM
Looks like someone should have invested some money in education.

I agree, like for example how to manage money, debt & a budget

Cain
03-11-09, 11:01 PM
Anyone interested in the USC basketball game Friday ???

gamesc
03-12-09, 10:13 AM
So I get digital channels on my DTV using the old fashion cable connection.. fair enough, its wonderful and sometimes I get the random digital channels briefly before the fade off somewhere in digitalville. I got used to seeing the WIS, WACH feeds in the 69-3, 69-26 area then the WLTX and WOLO feeds in the 103-2 through 103-10 range ..

I wake up this morning flipping through it .. all digital are channels gone.

Did a rescan and I notice TWC rearranged the entire thing completely with both WIS feeds on 100-1 and 100-2 and the vast majority of the feeds in the 84-x through 94-x range ..

any ideas why TWC messed with it?

bdfox18doe
03-12-09, 10:16 AM
any ideas why TWC messed with it?

They do that often.

gamesc
03-12-09, 12:43 PM
ACC Tourney in HD on WOLO

bdfox18doe
03-12-09, 12:46 PM
ACC Tourney in HD on WOLO

ACC have been in HD on WOLO since the first games that were done in HD.

flyingtigerfan
03-12-09, 01:37 PM
Yes, and I've enjoyed the Raycom ACC games in HD. Today, I swiped a small HDTV that I have on our RV and brought it to the office with some rabbit ears.

ACC Tournament in HD as we speak, VT still holding the lead.

Amazing what rabbit ears can do for you these days.

bdfox18doe
03-12-09, 01:42 PM
I swiped a small HDTV that I have on our RV and brought it to the office with some rabbit ears..

Now git back to work! :)

flyingtigerfan
03-12-09, 02:19 PM
Clemson-GT coming up. Work unlikely. :-)

Gary J
03-12-09, 02:34 PM
Who are you rooting for flyingtigerfan?

ncxcstud
03-13-09, 03:29 PM
Just so y'all know, game is in HD on FSN South (channel 648-1 on DirecTV). I heard the game was 'just' on channel 31 on TWC... is it going to be on one of the special interest channels for y'all in HD?

MilwaukeeMak
03-13-09, 07:11 PM
Excerpt from WOLO's website


ALMEGA CABLE VIEWERS:

A special message to our loyal viewers who watch WOLO on Almega Cable.

Sometime in the next few days, we expect Almega Cable to discontinue carriage of WOLO. Despite our efforts to arrange appropriate carriage rights, Almega is unwilling to enter discussions.

ncxcstud
03-13-09, 10:52 PM
Excerpt from WOLO's website

Almega isn't offered in Columbia.... why would that be pertinent to us? Only place I saw in South Carolina that it is offered is in Charleston.......

jarredjw
03-14-09, 04:29 PM
Looks like we'll be getting 4 new HD channels come April 2nd. Glad to see FX is on that list.

Basic Cable subscription and HDTV digital converter:

* AMC HD: Channel 859
* FX HD: Channel 960

HDTV digital converter and programming subscription:

* Travel Channel HD: Channel 857
* Outdoor Channel HD: Channel 963

Gary J
03-14-09, 04:35 PM
Glad to see FX is on that list.


Damages in HD! :)

spuryou
03-15-09, 02:31 PM
Hello all, I'm having a problem that I cannot figure out. I've researched for several weeks, tried different scanning options, and thats about all I can figure out. Anyway, I have a 42 inch JVC LCD that is not even a year old. When we firist hooked it up the HD channels would come in 19.1(wltx), 25.1(wolo), 69.1(wis), 69.2(fox), etc...Well a few months ago the HD channel quit working, I searched again and I found them listed in the 100's. As of a few weeks ago I cannot get any of the HD channels to come in, the antenna level is at 85, i just tried to rescan and cannot find any. I have basic Time Warner Cable. Thanks for you help.

scruffy7
03-15-09, 06:34 PM
Damages in HD! :)

there are only 3 episodes left in the season. if they don't skip a week the last one will air 4/1. so maybe "Damages reruns in HD!"

kevinivey
03-15-09, 08:13 PM
there are only 3 episodes left in the season. if they don't skip a week the last one will air 4/1. so maybe "Damages reruns in HD!"


When can only hope. I watched season one on Blu-ray ,and was planning to do it that again, but I will TiVo it if it repeats! :)

Grath
03-15-09, 11:01 PM
When can only hope. I watched season one on Blu-ray ,and was planning to do it that again, but I will TiVo it if it repeats! :)

Not sure if this helps, but there are a few episodes of Damages available in HD currently on channel 865 (HD Showcase On Demand) in the FX section.

Grath
03-15-09, 11:04 PM
Hello all, I'm having a problem that I cannot figure out. I've researched for several weeks, tried different scanning options, and thats about all I can figure out. Anyway, I have a 42 inch JVC LCD that is not even a year old. When we firist hooked it up the HD channels would come in 19.1(wltx), 25.1(wolo), 69.1(wis), 69.2(fox), etc...Well a few months ago the HD channel quit working, I searched again and I found them listed in the 100's. As of a few weeks ago I cannot get any of the HD channels to come in, the antenna level is at 85, i just tried to rescan and cannot find any. I have basic Time Warner Cable. Thanks for you help.

Spur, how is your TV hooked to the cable? Does it come directly from the wall into your TV or is it going through a device first (VCR, TiVo, cable box, digital convert box, etc)? And has anything changed in your wiring setup between when things were working and when they stopped?

Grath
03-15-09, 11:08 PM
I see that Time Warner has an NCAA Tournament info page setup at:

http://www.timewarnercable.com/Carolinas/learn/programming/sports/ncaa.html


They also seem to have duplicated CBS College Sports on 813 for convenience sake. I am wondering if this is a permanent change or just temporary during the tournament. I've also noticed that it must just be a channel mapping because when I change the channel between 150 (original CBS College Sports Channel) and 813, the screen does not even blank out so it knows the source for both 813 and 150 are the same. Somewhat disappointing as I was hoping that 813 might be an HD feed for CBS College Sports. Ho hum.

Gary J
03-16-09, 08:24 AM
Not sure if this helps, but there are a few episodes of Damages available in HD currently on channel 865 (HD Showcase On Demand) in the FX section.

Yes that does help! It looks like they are on there for about 5 days, no commercials. Seems kind of strange to get a HD program for a channel we only get in SD.

jtbell
03-16-09, 08:53 AM
Almega isn't offered in Columbia.... why would that be pertinent to us? Only place I saw in South Carolina that it is offered is in Charleston.......

WIS has a similar notice to Almega customers on their Web site, from December, which mentions "parts of Orangeburg, Calhoun and Clarendon counties."

Grath
03-16-09, 09:46 AM
Yes that does help! It looks like they are on there for about 5 days, no commercials. Seems kind of strange to get a HD program for a channel we only get in SD.

They had the same thing going for the series "Mad Men" that is on AMC. We don't have AMC in HD (yet), but if you didn't mind waiting a few days the latest episode would show up on the HD on demand channel.

frances50
03-16-09, 10:23 AM
To any and all who are wondering about WLTX Channel 19, Columbia, South Carolina carrying the digital stream for TVGOS. I spoke to Jim Grasty who is an engineer there. He informed me that they are NOT carrying TVGOS. They carry their digital info but do not plan to carry TVGOS. So, that answers my question. There is no market in Columbia, S.C. now. I will contact LG Electronics so they can pass this on to Macrovision. Maybe there will be a solution at some time, but not for now.

scruffy7
03-16-09, 11:23 AM
They had the same thing going for the series "Mad Men" that is on AMC. We don't have AMC in HD (yet), but if you didn't mind waiting a few days the latest episode would show up on the HD on demand channel.

Mad Men would be up in HD the next day, seems like the fx shows are taking much longer. didn't they put Breaking Bad up last season too?

jtbell
03-16-09, 12:47 PM
He informed me that they [WLTX] are NOT carrying TVGOS. They carry their digital info but do not plan to carry TVGOS.

Oh, crap. :(

I wonder what's in those VBI packets that my Sony DVR is picking up on its "G* Factory Test" screen. I see them only on WLTX, and not on any of the other stations I can get from Columbia, Greenville and Charlotte.

WTVI in Charlotte has been confirmed to be carrying digital TVGOS, but I can't get it here... too weak and too far away.

Shakin' Dave
03-16-09, 12:58 PM
Almega cable serves several smaller towns in Orangeburg County which is in the Columbia DMA.

frances50
03-16-09, 01:40 PM
Mr. Grasty at WLTX 19 in Columbia told me that Channel 19 IS sending out digital stream for their transmission but they are NOT carrying TVGOS. And he said there are no plans for their station to carry TVGOS. I'm not a techie so I don't know how that affects what everyone is receiving on their G* tests, but at least I know why I can't get my TVGOS.

spuryou
03-18-09, 10:15 AM
Spur, how is your TV hooked to the cable? Does it come directly from the wall into your TV or is it going through a device first (VCR, TiVo, cable box, digital convert box, etc)? And has anything changed in your wiring setup between when things were working and when they stopped?

My tv is directly connect to the wall. I was able to locate all of the local hd channels except for ABC. I'm pretty sure the channels will switch again. Why does it do this?

kevinivey
03-18-09, 06:09 PM
just to let everyone know that HD TiVo can now tune all HD channels with the exception of on demand or payperview. A free tuner is required ,and it is available from TWC.:)

gamesc
03-19-09, 04:52 AM
NCAA Mens Tournament Schedule on WLTX

THURSDAY

12:20pm
19-1 | LSU vs Butler
19-2 | CS-Northridge vs Memphis
19-3 | Texas A&M vs BYU

2:30pm
19-1 | North Carolina vs Radford
19-2 | Maryland vs California
19-3 | Chattanooga vs Connecticut
game not selected: Northern Iowa vs Purdue

4:55pm
19-2 or 19-3 | Mississippi State vs Washington
game also available on CBS College Sports

7:10pm
19-1 | Michigan vs Clemson
19-2 | Minnesota vs Texas
19-3 | Akron vs Gonzaga
game not selected: American vs Villanova

9:30pm
19-1 | Duke vs Binghamton
19-2 | Western Kentucky vs Illinois
19-3 | Morgan State vs Oklahoma
game not selected: Virginia Commonwealth vs UCLA

FRIDAY

12:20pm
19-1 | Oklahoma State vs Tennessee
19-2 | North Dakota State vs Kansas
19-3 | Stephen F. Austin vs Syracuse
game not selected: Utah State vs Marquette

2:30pm
19-1 | Dayton vs West Virginia
19-2 | East Tennessee State vs Pittsburgh
19-3 | Temple vs Arizona State
game not selected: Cornell vs Missouri

7:10pm
19-1 | Southern California vs Boston College
19-2 | Morehead State vs Louisville
19-3 | Arizona vs Utah
game not selected: Portland State vs Xavier

9:30pm
19-1 | Cleveland State vs Wake Forest
19-2 | Wisconsin vs Florida State
19-3 | Siena vs Ohio State
game not selected: Robert Morris vs Michigan State

flyingtigerfan
03-19-09, 01:31 PM
Once again I have the rabbit ears and the TV set up at my office for casual monitoring of the NCAA tournament. So far, a pretty good quality broadcast on the -1, -2, and -3 channels by WLTX. I gots some pixellation, but I attribute that to me being on the first floor of a metal building using rabbit ears in Irmo.

topher57
03-30-09, 12:53 PM
Hi, I am from Florence, SC and watch WLTX OTA, does the voice and lips have like a half to one second delay viewing in columbia or is just something on my end?

ncxcstud
03-30-09, 08:44 PM
WLTX is TERRIBLE at the audio sync issue right now....it's not just you....

TechMan
03-31-09, 04:18 AM
NCAA configuration related audio problems? Let's hope it goes when the games end.

ncxcstud
03-31-09, 07:06 AM
I can only hope so. Last Monday was exceptionally bad... watching "How I Met Your Mother" was ALMOST unbearable because the audio was literally 2 seconds behind... last night there was a slight delay, but nothing too bad... I'm still waiting for CBS to figure out a way to put on the NCAA games without every fans head and players arms turning into blocks during fast breaks and such. I thought with the 1 game at a time this past weekend it would be gone, but...nope...still there...

kevinivey
03-31-09, 05:25 PM
just an observation about the quality of our local CBS feed.

My TiVo HD list the file sizes for all recordings. You would think that a one hour HD primetime recording via Wltx in 1080i would be larger than a 1 hour recording from Wolo or Wach in 720p.

CSI=5080mb OTA
Private Practice=6830mb OTA
Extreme Home Makeover: Home Editon=7060mb TWC
House=7030mb OTA
Law and Order SVU=6820
Numbers=5120mb OTA



Trading Spaces on DHD theatre=8120mb

Sorry I do not have anything on Wis. The only thing we watch is er, and the last episode is Thursday. I will check the size of the file before I delete it.

gail2magic
03-31-09, 05:54 PM
I saw this on the TW site and wonder why they are adding FX in the 900's near the Sports channels. It seems odd. Am glad to have them but did seem a strange place to put it.


April 2, 2009

AMC HD: Channel 859
FX HD: Channel 960
Travel Channel HD: Channel 857
Outdoor Channel HD: Channel 963

Gary J
03-31-09, 06:00 PM
You would think that a one hour HD primetime recording via Wltx in 1080i would be larger than a 1 hour recording from Wolo or Wach in 720p.


I wouldn't.

bdfox18doe
03-31-09, 06:28 PM
one hour HD primetime recording via Wltx in 1080i would be larger than a 1 hour recording from Wolo or Wach in 720p.

What is the source you are recording? You don't mention that VARIABLE. OTA,Cable,Satellite?
Via OTA, WOLO runs a static 15mb/s for HD.

jrolin1
03-31-09, 08:26 PM
Is wzrb (CW-47) broadcasting in HD? If so how long till TWC carries it in HD (QAM or otherwise)?

kevinivey
03-31-09, 09:06 PM
What is the source you are recording? You don't mention that VARIABLE. OTA,Cable,Satellite?
Via OTA, WOLO runs a static 15mb/s for HD.


updated, again

ncxcstud
03-31-09, 09:40 PM
Is wzrb (CW-47) broadcasting in HD? If so how long till TWC carries it in HD (QAM or otherwise)?

Nope.

jrolin1
04-01-09, 08:42 AM
Nope.

Thanks.:)

Ty_SC
04-01-09, 11:15 PM
WLTX is TERRIBLE at the audio sync issue right now....it's not just you....


I noticed some audio synching issues on WIS as well. I wonder if it is a TWC problem. Is everyone else still having this problem on either WLTX or WIS?

kevinivey
04-02-09, 05:13 AM
not a twc problem , ota matches the cable feed. audio errors still occur with both.

ncxcstud
04-02-09, 08:40 AM
I concur with kevinivey. WIS also has had a low 'thumping' noise for the past few weeks too.

kevinivey
04-02-09, 06:50 PM
NBC is aware of the problems that we and several other stations have reported. We have been implementing some of the upgrades to our equipment that NBC and its DTV contractor have provided. USSI, the engineering service provider, and NBC still have some steps to complete, but we think that they are making progress. Let us know if you don’t see any improvement in the coming days.



Thanks for writing.



Barry Ahrendt
Director of Marketing and Programming



sent the same question to Wltx ,and received no response. Perhaps this why they can not compete with Wis.:rolleyes:

Grath
04-03-09, 10:07 AM
Is wzrb (CW-47) broadcasting in HD? If so how long till TWC carries it in HD (QAM or otherwise)?

Nope.

I don't know if it's happening on every CW show or not, but I have noticed when my wife it watching America's Next Top Model on CW 47 that the screen is shrunken extremely tiny. Both the side and top/bottom borders are brought WAY in on the analog channel 13 on TWC. The aspect appears to be correct so it basically looks like an HD signal that has been twice downsized to fit an SD screen. Perhaps their sat receiver is doing the conversion for them and they are downsizing it again at the local level?

Anyone else seeing this? I haven't tried grabbing them OTA yet to see if the same problem exists there, but I suspect that it does.

ncxcstud
04-03-09, 05:22 PM
sounds like you saw a 16:9 SD broadcast on a HD TV... that's normal, it should be the same for when WIS decides to turn off the HD switch during their primetime shows like The Office...

jtbell
04-05-09, 09:54 AM
To any and all who are wondering about WLTX Channel 19, Columbia, South Carolina carrying the digital stream for TVGOS. I spoke to Jim Grasty who is an engineer there. He informed me that they are NOT carrying TVGOS.

Either they changed their mind, or we have a case of the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing.

My analog TVGOS feed from WUNF in Asheville stopped last week, so on Friday night, with only two days of program listings left, I decided to try WLTX again. I reset TVGOS on one of my two Sony HD DVRs, entered a Columbia ZIP code in the setup, and aimed my antenna your way. I don't have a channel lineup or program listings on that unit yet, and the host channel field in the diagnostic screens is still blank, but the clock is set properly and I see something interesting in the advertisements pane next to where the program listings should appear (see attachment).

Also, my second Sony DVR, all by itself, updated its program listings yesterday afternoon so they extend a full eight days instead of stopping at 3 AM Monday. Its host channel field is now also blank. With analog TVGOS, it always took 2-3 days to get a full set of listings. I've read that digital TVGOS populates the listings much faster, usually in a single day.

Finally, on my analog-only Panasonic DVD recorder, the TVGOS listings still end at 3 AM Monday, and the host channel field has gone blank.

frances50
04-05-09, 02:45 PM
TV 19 WLTX is carrying the digital packets, my clocks are being set by them on my LG televisions. This make sense since Jim Gratsy told me that WLTX was sending out their digital packets. I finally spoke to an engineer at Macrovision and he informed me that they are contracting with PBS in S.C. to carry the digital TVGOS. He said that not all CBS channels are carrying TVGOS including WLTX. He told me about two weeks ago that it would be about 6 weeks for the contracts to be signed. We'll just have to wait and see.

jtbell
04-06-09, 01:34 AM
It's good news if SCETV does it after all! That will cover the whole state, including the Upstate which doesn't have any TVGOS coverage now, except at the fringes towards Columbia and near Charlotte.

marsman57
04-13-09, 02:33 PM
I don't know if it's happening on every CW show or not, but I have noticed when my wife it watching America's Next Top Model on CW 47 that the screen is shrunken extremely tiny. Both the side and top/bottom borders are brought WAY in on the analog channel 13 on TWC. The aspect appears to be correct so it basically looks like an HD signal that has been twice downsized to fit an SD screen. Perhaps their sat receiver is doing the conversion for them and they are downsizing it again at the local level?

Anyone else seeing this? I haven't tried grabbing them OTA yet to see if the same problem exists there, but I suspect that it does.

First off, why in the world is CW 47 not broadcasting in HD? Has anyone talked to them about this? I was hoping that TWC just was not carrying it yet and that I would get it if I pulled it OTA.

As for the boxing of shows, here is what I believe the issue is with ANTM being the worst offender of the bunch.

The Scientific Atlanta DVR adds black bars around SD broadcasts to make them show up in 4:3 (I thought this was a setting, but have not found how to disable that automatic letterboxing). This makes most 4:3 CW shows appear correctly. 16:9 shows unfortunately show up as 16:9 within 4:3, but that is somewhat understandable even if annoying. The problem with ANTM is likely what you suggested, the program is being broadcast as 4:3, so 16:9 frames are being added in somewhere to keep it from stretching. This finally gives you 4:3 in 16:9 in 4:3 in 16:9. Which, if my math is right, gives you a picture that is 56.25% of the width and 75% of the height of the screen.

With problems like this prevalent, I wish my HDTV manufacturer had spent less time on weird zooms that stretch and crop a 4:3 picture into 16:9 and more time on some custom zooms designed to compensate for this.

Grath
04-13-09, 05:20 PM
First off, why in the world is CW 47 not broadcasting in HD? Has anyone talked to them about this? I was hoping that TWC just was not carrying it yet and that I would get it if I pulled it OTA.

As for the boxing of shows, here is what I believe the issue is with ANTM being the worst offender of the bunch.

The Scientific Atlanta DVR adds black bars around SD broadcasts to make them show up in 4:3 (I thought this was a setting, but have not found how to disable that automatic letterboxing). This makes most 4:3 CW shows appear correctly. 16:9 shows unfortunately show up as 16:9 within 4:3, but that is somewhat understandable even if annoying. The problem with ANTM is likely what you suggested, the program is being broadcast as 4:3, so 16:9 frames are being added in somewhere to keep it from stretching. This finally gives you 4:3 in 16:9 in 4:3 in 16:9. Which, if my math is right, gives you a picture that is 56.25% of the width and 75% of the height of the screen.

With problems like this prevalent, I wish my HDTV manufacturer had spent less time on weird zooms that stretch and crop a 4:3 picture into 16:9 and more time on some custom zooms designed to compensate for this.

Marsman, your math sounds correct, but I actually don't think it's the cable box doing it. Last week I decided to walk into the bedroom where the regular old analog 4:3 is hooked up. I turned it on there and saw the same thing... the picture brought in from the sides and top of my 4:3 screen. Less severe in there since the "normal" black bars that would show up for SD content on an HDTV did not exist because it's an SD TV at 4:3, but still not filling up the screen horizontally OR vertically. It should at least fill it horizontally.

Something's definitely messed up.

I have sent an e-mail to their engineer asking about the issue, but haven't heard back as of yet. I directed him to the thread here so perhaps he'll show up to answer directly.

Trip in VA
04-13-09, 09:34 PM
First off, why in the world is CW 47 not broadcasting in HD? Has anyone talked to them about this?

I may be mistaken, but I think the programming is delivered via satellite in SD and then they're just upconverting it with sidebars into 720p.

- Trip

marsman57
04-14-09, 08:54 AM
Marsman, your math sounds correct, but I actually don't think it's the cable box doing it.

I'm not sure. I thought it might have been because of the change in behavior when I went from the standard definition Scientific Atlanta box to the HD Scientific Atlanta box. With the SD box, I would have to set the TV to 4:3 mode or the picture would stretch out. With the HD box, the picture automatically goes to 4:3 mode when not a 16:9 broadcast, so I figured the box was adding those initial side bars. The other bars are all added by the program itself of course.

As for the issue of it coming in SD over the satellite, that *shouldn't* be the case. According to a blog post on The CW's website (can't link because I am a new user), every drama and comedy on The CW’s schedule will be broadcast in high definition in the 2008-2009 season. That might exclude ANTM, but it should include Smallville, Gossip Girl, etc. which I still cannot see in HD.

Trip in VA
04-14-09, 09:18 AM
No, I mean the master control for the station is in another location, and the entire feed is coming 100% over satellite in SD. I remember seeing it on Lyngsat a while ago, that the Roberts-owned CW stations were all in SD on free-to-air satellite, much as the Equity stations are. (Equity's stations are all run out of Little Rock and then fed via satellite to the local transmitters.)

- Trip

kevinivey
04-14-09, 04:47 PM
the local CW feed is 480i at all times.

ncxcstud
04-18-09, 07:17 PM
anyone have any idea when Fox will be back up?

kevinivey
04-18-09, 08:26 PM
anyone have any idea when Fox will be back up?


OTA is off ,but all is fine via TWC.