I realize this may sound like a rather rethorical topic considering this is the PlayStation forum. However, I am looking for objective opinions, hopefully from those who have either owned a 360 in the past or happen to own both.

I have had my Xbox for about 2 months now. I am a PC gamer at heart but having not built a new machine to keep up with current games, I decided to give consoles a try. I think the Xbox is a great platform; it is the platform that comes closest to a PC which is why I think developers have an easier time creating games for it. I also realize it has the largest game selection, etc.

That said, I find that I do not really enjoy playing FPS games on the console as much as I anticipated doing. I was hoping to play these type of games on the Xbox instead of the PC, however, I find myself playing games like Assassin's Creed 3rd person type games, racing games, flying games, and other non FPS type games. Something about not having mouse look makes things really hard for me when playing the FPS genre on consoles (probably need to get used to controls - hopefully will eventually).

I also dislike the Xbox's Home Media option. I think it stinks royaly and I have tried Tversity as well as Media Center. Not enouh options, laggy and not many supported file formats. This part is important to me and it is one of the main reasons I am contemplating switching to the PS3.

So, what is your take on the PS3 versus the Xbox from a home media box perspective? Also, how do you feel the PS3's exclusive games compare to the multiplatform games available for both? Do they really show the potential of the PS3?

Lastly, do you feel blue-ray winning the format war will increase developer support for the PS3? more games? etc?

I am not trying to start a flame war here, just looking for your honest opinion if I may. The PS3 is looking pretty tempting lately and I think I have had it with the Xbox... just not quite sure yet (i dont want to keep both).

You won't get back much for a used 360 considering that the buyer will be wary of spotty reliability. I would wait a little bit and see if there is any sort of price drop or deal that comes out (such as Sony's $100 off with credit card sign up deal) and get the best of both worlds and enjoy both consoles exclusives.

I don't think that Blu Ray becoming the HD disc format of choice will have any effect of game devs. Lost Odyssey proves that if a game is too large for a DVD, just throw another one in there and complete the game with as many discs necessary.

In the end, its your decision. Play some PS3 at a friends or at a store and get a feel for it. I own both consoles and enjoy both since they provide different, but fantastic experiences...

Too be honest as a owner of both, if the games on the XB360 are not grabbing you, I doubt the ones on the PS3 do any better since their about 90% the same. And those few that are exclusive and not FPS like Heavenly Sword and Ratchet, have their XB360 equivalents in NG2 and Banjo.

don't sell the 360. I am a PC gamer first and foremost. the 360 is better one for games, and the 360 controller is the better one for fps's. I recently bought the ps3 as well, but i got it for media reasons. If I got it for games, I'd be depressed right now. Like you I didn't like the 360 for media, although the latest update made it better, it still didn't do what "i" wanted. It was clumsy, laggy, etc, not to mention the fear of it red ringing at any point.

I do like the ps3 better for media so far. Converting hd mkv to vob takes no time at all and the interface is quicker, the animated icons are cool, the ability to store whatever you want on the hd ( copy straight from upnp server onto hd if you want), I HATED the way the 360 handled music ( unless you used an external hard drive used nothing but id3 tags). You will still have to use Tversity to stream content to the ps3. And the remote options for the ps3 are ....limited to say the least.

UT3 on ps3 will allow a kb/m setup. I hope we see more of this on the ps3. I don't see MS ever allowing a kb/m, too tight a$$ed about it.

anyhow, gotta go. But i would certainly keep the 360 for now. Your not going to gain anything by selling it.

I like FPS games on both the PC and 360. Each has its own inadequacies and each has its own merits.

As for media streaming, the latest update allows TONS more freedom. For what it's worth I never got TVersity to work at all.

I think the statement about BR winning the format war and not being an influence on developers is also true. DVD is still a fine medium for development and is still cheaper to deploy on.

I still feel that BOTH systems are still too young to be showing what they are fully capacble of. Just look at launch titles for the PS2 versus titles being released now. The developers are far more intimate with the hardware now and can push it to and beyond the limits. Unfortunately it's usually not until EOL that systems really shine.

[QUOTE=h3ro;13174931]I don't think that Blu Ray becoming the HD disc format of choice will have any effect of game devs. Lost Odyssey proves that if a game is too large for a DVD, just throw another one in there and complete the game with as many discs necessary.
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What I meant by that question was not whether it would gain support due increased size capabilities of blueray, but because blueray winning the format war is expected to create a surge on PS3 sales, hence, increasing their market share. I was thinking this could have a positive impact as far as gaining developer support is concerned...

thanks for your input

Well, I bought both. and Still Have both.


I am really a PC gamer at heart. Keyboard and Mouse is the way to go for FPS games. Aiming with the controller is garbage lol.

I find myself liking the graphics on the XBOX slightly better.

Mlb The Show is one of the main reasons i bought PS3. It's an unbelievable baseball game and by far better than 2k7.

Madden I've lost interest in. I can't stand the way the game plays and runs now. very laggy on either system, on PS3 the graphics look even worse.


So i use PS3 for bluray and Mlb the show.

XBOX for main gameplay because the interaction with other users is by far superior. yes you pay for your ONLINE service. 50$/yr ... but you get what you pay for.

Talking and chatting with friends during games, in games, not in games etc totally blows away ps3. It doesn't even exist in PS3.


That's my little take on the 2 consoles.


If the online multiplayer was slightly upgraded with the PC and more users were on like the XBOX then It would be PC all the way.


Another thing is... XBOX online has way more people.


anyway, that's my take on the entire situation...


ROB.

After what came out of GDC today I'm not sure I'd ever let my 360 go. NG2 looks like the hack n' slash to royally bitch slap both Sigma and DMC4, GeoW2 looks fantastic and they haven't even released gameplay footage they've just shown how they're optimizing the UT3 Engine, and Fable 2 looks fan-dabby-tabulous in every freakin way imaginable. Add to that games created by people using XNA are gonna be released over Live with the ability to rate different games and all of a sudden LittleBigPlanets create a level and share it with your friends hook doesn't seem quite as cool as it did (don't get me wrong I still want LBP). I say hang onto the 360.

The PS3 is a wonderful system and I love it but the 360 just has more going for it in the games department IMO. It is a far superior media center device though.

I owned a 360 for 2 years... sold it for a 40GB PS3... very pleased with the switch-over. I would recommend "upgrading" and trying a new plethora of games. PS3 also does everything the 360 does and more, as far as multimedia goes. Additionally, you can install Yellow Dog Linux on it and get even more out of the system. Lastly, it has a Blu Ray Player that factually pwns the 360's regular drive AND HD DVD drive.

Thanks fellas. I really doubt I will end up keeping both since from what I see, most of the games coming out nowadays are released multiplatform. I haven't had a chance to do a graphics comparison sans for the videos and screenshots I see online but I am assuming they are both pretty close or the same almost? I try BB and othe stores but they always seem to have consoles setup with inadequate monitors and you can't really tell the difference.

So, should I decide to buy a PS3, do you recommend going with the 80Gig or the 40Gig? How often do you actually use the memory card reader I wonder considering you can stream things. I read somewhere you can upgrade the HDD but not sure, is that really the case? If so, can one upgrade the HDD to anything higher than 80?

if BC is important, go 80gig if you can find one

if not, go 40, install your own hd if you want.

Card reader? well, keep in mind you can't just take your card out of your camera and stick it into the ps3 because that would make too much sense. You need to put the pictures into a folder on the card called PICTURES, caps and all in order for the darn thing to see them.

Card reader? well, keep in mind you can't just take your card out of your camera and stick it into the ps3 because that would make too much sense. You need to put the pictures into a folder on the card called PICTURES, caps and all in order for the darn thing to see them.

I have a 60gig PS3 and use a Canon camera with SD memory cards. I can just take it out and pop it in the PS3 to view pictures and videos in the DCIM folder (actually, in subfolders off of that main directory). Where does your camera store pictures?

The family likes this feature of the 60gig/80gig (popping camera cards into the system to check out fresh photos/videos). Presumably, I would guess you could hook up an external card reader for the 40gig but I haven't tried that myself.

Too be honest as a owner of both, if the games on the XB360 are not grabbing you, I doubt the ones on the PS3 do any better since their about 90% the same. And those few that are exclusive and not FPS like Heavenly Sword and Ratchet, have their XB360 equivalents in NG2 and Banjo.

As an aside, Banjo is basically vaporware. There has been no firm announcement or showcase regarding this and if you played any of the N64 Banjos and the PS2 R&Cs as well as R&C Future on PS3, you would know that these two games have NOTHING in common besides controlling animals with things strapped to their backs. R&C is a a platformer/3rd Person Shooter with some adult humor thrown in here and there where as Banjo was (key word was as we don't know what Rare is up to) more of a Mario64 style 3d platform game built with a much younger demographic in mind. (I played and own all versions of the before mentioned games btw)

I don't think the OP should hold out on his 360 just because he might get a game sometime in the future that is like R&C. Also, although NGII won't be on the PS3, if the OP wants some ninja killing sprees, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is available on PS3.

fsck, if you enjoyed a third person game like Assassin's Creed, check out Uncharted: Drakes Fortune if/when you pick up a PS3. Its arguably the best game available and IMO is a vastly superior game to Assassins Creed. Warhawk is also an extremely fun 3rd Person Online shooter.

I have a 60gig PS3 and use a Canon camera with SD memory cards. I can just take it out and pop it in the PS3 to view pictures and videos in the DCIM folder (actually, in subfolders off of that main directory). Where does your camera store pictures?

The family likes this feature of the 60gig/80gig (popping camera cards into the system to check out fresh photos/videos). Presumably, I would guess you could hook up an external card reader for the 40gig but I haven't tried that myself.

I have a Sony camera which uses the DCIM directory structure. I tend to stream photos more than anything so I think my main concern is having a large drive. If you can upgrade the drive, is it a big pain to migrate the data over (eg disk imaging, etc) or is there a built-in process in place for that? I am assuming it uses a notebook 2.5" type hdd?

As an aside, Banjo is basically vaporware. There has been no firm announcement or showcase regarding this and if you played any of the N64 Banjos and the PS2 R&Cs as well as R&C Future on PS3, you would know that these two games have NOTHING in common besides controlling animals with things strapped to their backs. R&C is a a platformer/3rd Person Shooter with some adult humor thrown in here and there where as Banjo was (key word was as we don't know what Rare is up to) more of a Mario64 style 3d platform game built with a much younger demographic in mind. (I played and own all versions of the before mentioned games btw)

I don't think the OP should hold out on his 360 just because he might get a game sometime in the future that is like R&C. Also, although NGII won't be on the PS3, if the OP wants some ninja killing sprees, Ninja Gaiden Sigma is available on PS3.

fsck, if you enjoyed a third person game like Assassin's Creed, check out Uncharted: Drakes Fortune if/when you pick up a PS3. Its arguably the best game available and IMO is a vastly superior game to Assassins Creed. Warhawk is also an extremely fun 3rd Person Online shooter.


Your missing the point, this wasn't to argue which has better games, we're arguing how they both basically have the same types of games and if those games do not grab you on the XB360 there likely to not do much for you on the PS3 either. Yeah, Banjo might not be the exact same type of Shooter platformer that Banjo is, but they are both platformers and have the same Appeal. I am a huge platformer fan, and once you take the game specific trappings away, there isn't much difference between Ratchet, SMG, Kameo, Conker, etc.

Your missing the point, this wasn't to argue which has better games, we're arguing how they both basically have the same types of games and if those games do not grab you on the XB360 there likely to not do much for you on the PS3 either. Yeah, Banjo might not be the exact same type of Shooter platformer that Banjo is, but they are both platformers and have the same Appeal. I am a huge platformer fan, and once you take the game specific trappings away, there isn't much difference between Ratchet, SMG, Kameo, Conker, etc.

Yes, but they don't have the same type of games because the games you mentioned aren't even available on the system yet.

Yeah so, he is asking why he should keep his XB360 so future titles have much revelance to this topic. You cannot tell me that if someone asked why they should get a PS3, that a few future titles like FF13 and MGS4 would not be mentioned.

I must say I'm pretty torn rigth now. After seeing some of the ingame trailers for fable and NG2. I was a huge fan of the original NG and it does look like NG2 is going to be a fantastic game.. Stuff like this does make me wish I had both, but he is right in that does it make sense to have two consoles just in case a game you like comes out every now and then?


I have some thinking to do here...:confused:

I wouldn't get rid of the 360, no way! Too many good games on the system, too many good games coming out. That's not to say the PS3 is a fine system, it is, I own one, but the 360 is a CERTIFIED MUST OWN for anyone who takes gaming even a little seriously. As for playing FPS games on a console... what can I say? I think most people have already gotten used to it and have a great time.

and once you take the game specific trappings away, there isn't much difference between Ratchet, SMG, Kameo, Conker, etc.

What? There is a huge difference between, to name the two I have played, Ratchet & Super Mario Galaxy. Conker and Kameo are both Rare games so it wouldn't surprise me if they share similarities (including with Banjo). But you are right, in that, if the 360 library doesn't appeal to someone there's a better than good chance the PS3 library won't either.

I'm a dual console owner, and since your question wasn't as simple as "which console is better?" here are my thoughts on your particular concerns:

Since you sound a bit disappointed at how PC-style gaming feels on the 360, you may have better luck on a Japanese-developer-heavy console (PS3). But NG2 does complicate matters a bit. :D

As a media console, the PS3 is far smoother and all around more impressive (I think the 360 has slightly fewer compatibility issues, but far more network issues through media center).

And it can only help the PS3 and its future gaming prospects now that Blu-ray has risen to dominance.

Judging by your comments, it sounds like you're already leaning towards a PS3. Just go with it; you'll be very happy with it.

360 - Better for games.

PS3 - Better for Movies.

As for media...I actually prefer the 360 as it's interface is much more intuitive to me.

I have a Sony camera which uses the DCIM directory structure. I tend to stream photos more than anything so I think my main concern is having a large drive. If you can upgrade the drive, is it a big pain to migrate the data over (eg disk imaging, etc) or is there a built-in process in place for that? I am assuming it uses a notebook 2.5" type hdd?

I don't actually store any of my photos on my PS3's hard drive (I use a Maxtor NAS that's DLNA compliant); other users who use software like Tversity hopefully can comment on how easy/hard it is for streaming photos. For myself, we'll typically just use the memory card reader in a quick pinch to view recent photos before they eventually get moved to the shared location on my NAS.

If you plan on keeping your photos or other media on the PS3 hard drive, there is a full disk backup routine that can be done to an external USB hard drive (FAT32 formatted). After replacing the drive you'll of course do a restore. the PS3 uses 2.5" SATA drives as you presumed correctly.

I realize this may sound like a rather rethorical topic considering this is the PlayStation forum. However, I am looking for objective opinions, hopefully from those who have either owned a 360 in the past or happen to own both.

I have had my Xbox for about 2 months now. I am a PC gamer at heart but having not built a new machine to keep up with current games, I decided to give consoles a try. I think the Xbox is a great platform; it is the platform that comes closest to a PC which is why I think developers have an easier time creating games for it. I also realize it has the largest game selection, etc.

That said, I find that I do not really enjoy playing FPS games on the console as much as I anticipated doing. I was hoping to play these type of games on the Xbox instead of the PC, however, I find myself playing games like Assassin's Creed 3rd person type games, racing games, flying games, and other non FPS type games. Something about not having mouse look makes things really hard for me when playing the FPS genre on consoles (probably need to get used to controls - hopefully will eventually).

I also dislike the Xbox's Home Media option. I think it stinks royaly and I have tried Tversity as well as Media Center. Not enouh options, laggy and not many supported file formats. This part is important to me and it is one of the main reasons I am contemplating switching to the PS3.

So, what is your take on the PS3 versus the Xbox from a home media box perspective? Also, how do you feel the PS3's exclusive games compare to the multiplatform games available for both? Do they really show the potential of the PS3?

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I sold my X360 last month, under very similar circumstances to yours. I was on the fence prior to buying either console, but the fact that most of my friends had a X360 was the deciding factor. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but like you, I don't enjoy FPS's on consoles as much as I thought I would. Oddly enough, the games I enjoyed the most were one-player games, like Mass Effect and Bioshock.

Then came the Warner news... At that point, I was contemplating starting a home theatre, and once Blu-Ray took a stranglehold, I knew that Blu-Ray would have to be a big part of my home theatre. I sold my X360 after owning it for two months, and now that my home theatre is nearly finished, I'm buying a PS3 this weekend.

What led to my decision?
-Blu-Ray! PS3 is, hands down, the best Blu-Ray player on the market, and the most bang for your buck. Now that the format war is over, it is the best time for me to capitalize on PS3's versatility and value. If you are at least semi-serious in home theatre and if you play games, buying a PS3 is a no-brainer.
-A strong 2008 line-up. 2007 was a weak year for the PS3, but 2008 looks very promising. Home is a great concept and will help make up for PS3's lackluster internet support. MGS4, LittleBigPlanet, GT5:P, Killzone 2, Haze and eventually Final Fantasy are among many exclusives. Some say that the PS3 is a multi-media console, while the X360 is the better gaming console. It seems like Sony is looking to prove in 2008 that the PS3 is better than the X360 in all aspects. Personally, I think that, as a gaming console, the PS3 has nowhere to go but up.

Lastly, do you feel blue-ray winning the format war will increase developer support for the PS3? more games? etc?

I'd say no. However, if the Blu-Ray victory may lead to an increase in sales. An increase in sales may lead to an increase in developer support. It really depends on how quickly people will adopt Blu-Ray, and how many of them will look to the PS3 for a Blu-Ray player.

Well, I am sure glad I came here. You guys have brought up some very good points I wasn't even considering. I think given the price of the 40GB PS3 versus a decent Blueray player w/TrueHD decoding, it actually makes sense for me to buy the PS3 AND keep the Xbox. I already have some games I like with it and you are right, I will probably loose too much money if I put it up for sale. Funny, I will end up with devices from both side of the fence: HD-DVD STB / BlueRay player. Xbox / PS3

So, what the hell, I am keeping both so that I can enjoy the best of both worlds <cough>NG2</cough> :D

thanks so much for your input.

-Robert
xbox: 'evilkernel'

My response to this would be definately to sell the 360 and get the 40GB ps3. I did this 2-3 weeks ago and couldnt be happier.

I had recently got a plasma TV. And wanted to get the 360 set up (all nice and neat). So this meant that to fully enjoy the system, i would have to renew my xbox live subscription which is around 60$ or something like that, then buy the wireless network adapter which is another 100 bucks.

SO - I decided to sell my 360 for almost 300 bucks (posted the ad on the internet) and it was sold in about 1hr and picked up about an hour later. The next day i went out and picked up the ps3. At the end of it all, i actually made 60 dollars by switching to the ps3.

I'd sell the 360 for a PS3 for sure. If not just for fear of reliability issues and the excessive noise the system makes, also consider that the 360's biggest games all came out last year. 2007 = Year of the 360 (Yes, even though the PS3 outsold it, 360 had more solid games), 2008 = Year of the PS3 (anyone who even glances at the upcoming releases for both consoles could tell you that).

Fyi, there are increasing rumors that a price drop is due for the 360, if you are planning to sell it do it sooner rather than later otherwise you're going to get less money for it if this actually happens.

I'm selling the 360 after I'm done with Gears of War 2. That is just about the only game to look forward to on the console.

I'd sell the 360 for a PS3 for sure. If not just for fear of reliability issues and the excessive noise the system makes, also consider that the 360's biggest games all came out last year. 2007 = Year of the 360 (Yes, even though the PS3 outsold it, 360 had more solid games), 2008 = Year of the PS3 (anyone who even glances at the upcoming releases for both consoles could tell you that).

I've never ever been completely happy with selling a system in it's prime. Both systems have great stuff on both the systems. IMO buying a console should always be a bigger concern over selling one. There are at least 3 more years left on 360 and who knows whats coming even in the next 3 monthes(GDC had some huge 360 annoucements). If you can afford to own both do it.

I'm selling the 360 after I'm done with Gears of War 2. That is just about the only game to look forward to on the console.

many many games don't even get annouced until they are only monthes away. I have no qualms with calling your decision lacking. Selling a system makes no nesne if there are still games coming out for it. and even so I've always wanted to go back and play some older systems that I've sold(dreamcast for instance).

I have a XBOX 360 that I have had over 2 years...not one single issue with it. I recently picked up a PS3 as well..mostly because I wanted a BR player.

If for some reason I had to get rid of one...it would be the PS3. For gaming, I think the 360 is a better console...I think its controllers are better and its selection of titles is much better(at least at the moment).

I have been trying out some PS3 only games....Folklore is surprisingly addictive and fun to play. Mass Effect is still the best game I have played in several years..and its currently 360 only...but soon to be released for PC.

I like the OP prefer playing FPS with mouse and keyboard...but the 360's controller is not too bad...and I think its much better than the PS3's.

I say keep both and then you can enjoy whatever games come out..irregardless of platform. I gave up trying to keep my PC up to date for games...consoles is the way to go overall for gaming.

You kind of hinted already at your preferred platform, the PC. I too own an Xbox 360 and absolutely can not get into playing Gears of War or CoD4 on the console. I spent another paycheck or two updating the processor and video cards in my PC and am now happy to be able to use my mouse and keyboard as originally intended for FPS games. Granted, I still have the 360 for other titles not available on the PC, such as Dead or Alive 4, Burnout: Revenge, and Beautiful Katamari, but again prefer the PC for all my FPS titles. If only Microsoft allowed a keyboard and mouse to be used on the console for shooters. The PS3 crowd is lucky to at least have this support in UT3. Good luck in your decision...

I've never ever been completely happy with selling a system in it's prime. Both systems have great stuff on both the systems. IMO buying a console should always be a bigger concern over selling one. There are at least 3 more years left on 360 and who knows whats coming even in the next 3 monthes(GDC had some huge 360 annoucements). If you can afford to own both do it.

True, for the record I've owned pretty much every major console since NES (NES, SNES, Genesis, N64, PSX, DC, PS2, Gamecube, Xbox, Wii, PS3) and have never sold one in its prime either. I personally didn't buy 360 in the first place for a few reasons: it's too loud, reliability issues, I can play most of the 360 'exclusives' on my PC and once I added up all the add-ons I'd want to purchase for it, it would cost over $650 at the time I was looking into buying one.

In a nutshell: All hardware depreciates....if you aren't using your 360, sell it now..but dont expect to get much because of the reliability issue of the units.

BUT don't buy a PS3 either, unless you need a blu ray player, because buying the machine now for vaporware due out in 2008 is foolish. The Ps3 will be $50 to $100 cheaper by the time most of those "supposed to be good" games ship this year.

If you own a 360 today, the only compelling reason to buy a PS3 is as a Blu Ray player right now. Or if you absolutely must play Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank or Motorstorm.

If you own a 360 today, the only compelling reason to buy a PS3 is as a Blu Ray player right now. Or if you absolutely must play Uncharted, Ratchet and Clank or Motorstorm.

Or your like me and have a lot more friends and family who have a PS3 and want to play online with them. Off topic, but I think the overall PS3 sales must be a lot closer to 360 in Canada than in the USA because 14 of my friends have PS3 and only 2 have 360.

Or your like me and have a lot more friends and family who have a PS3 and want to play online with them. Off topic, but I think the overall PS3 sales must be a lot closer to 360 in Canada than in the USA because 14 of my friends have PS3 and only 2 have 360.

I only know 1 other person with a PS3, and he doesn't use his either. When we multiplayer game its always on the 360.

Having said that I'd only recommend the 360 to real gamers..ie: people who game instead of watching Must-See TV at night (of which I probably qualify), not casual gamers. Casual gamers I'd say go with a PS3, its dual functionality will buy you more n the long run...right now.

I'd sell the 360 for a PS3 for sure. If not just for fear of reliability issues and the excessive noise the system makes, also consider that the 360's biggest games all came out last year. 2007 = Year of the 360 (Yes, even though the PS3 outsold it, 360 had more solid games), 2008 = Year of the PS3 (anyone who even glances at the upcoming releases for both consoles could tell you that).

Ninja Gaiden 2, Gears of War 2, Fable 2, Alan Wake, etc.... That is definately not a weak line up for the 360.

BTW... is ninja gaiden sigma a repackaged version of the original ninja gaiden? I only played through the first level of sigma, but it seemed very familiar.

Alan Wake lol, I wouldn't bet on it coming out in 2008. That friggin game is vaporware defined.

But yes the 360's release lineup looks very good.

Having said that I'd only recommend the 360 to real gamers..ie: people who game instead of watching Must-See TV at night (of which I probably qualify), not casual gamers. Casual gamers I'd say go with a PS3, its dual functionality will buy you more n the long run...right now.

Real gamers own and play both. I'm not even saying that to front, I am saying that there is more than enough on both systems to interest anybody that considers themselves a fan of games.

BTW... is ninja gaiden sigma a repackaged version of the original ninja gaiden?

Yes. It's not worth playing if you're sick of NG and/or Black but its the best version of the game if you are not.

Ninja Gaiden 2, Gears of War 2, Fable 2, Alan Wake, etc.... That is definately not a weak line up for the 360.

Only one of which interests me (GOW2) and 2 of which I'll probably be able to play on my PC (Alan Wake and GOW2), but point taken. 360's 2008 lineup isn't lackluster, but so far it doesn't look as strong as PS3, at least in games that interest me personally.

Ninja Gaiden 2, Gears of War 2, Fable 2, Alan Wake, etc.... That is definately not a weak line up for the 360.


Both XBOX 360 and PS3 have decent looking lineups for this year.

Fable 2 is one that I am really interested in...just hope its not the let down and false advertisement that Fable 1 was.

But in all honestly, i would say 75% of the games I am interested in for 2008 are multi-platform...which for me means XBOX 360.

There are 2 or 3 PS3 only games that I am interested in.

i own both a 360 and a PS3

like you i have built several gaming machines for PC gaming....and also like you i couldn't keep up with costs so i got the next gen systems. Unlike you though i like my 360 and yes it takes some time to get used to FPS on it but i don't mind it now.

your really not going to get anything better out of the PS3 (besides Blu-Ray which is why i bought it) that you didn't all ready have in the 360. The only answer to your question is to just save up and buy/build a new PC gaming machine.....that seems to be your answer.

Also, to the OP...if you did not like playing FPS on the 360 then I can pretty much bet you will not like them on the PS3 either...if anything you will probably like it even less because at least for me the PS3 controller was much worse than the 360 controller. The biggest difference I noticed between the controllers was with the trigger buttons...the 360 ones are alot easier to feel and use...which is something important for FPS games. Maybe my hands are just too big..because the PS3 controller feels smaller and I often accidently press the wrong button.

I have both systems, and have only had the ps3 for a few days now, but I already know that the 360 gets my love. If I didn't have 300 dollars in gift cards I wouldn't have bought a PS3 yet, but I'm a gamer....so I do want to checkout R&C, GT5:prologue, uncharted, etc.,etc. However, I will be renting those games.

I don't regret my purchase at all because I know that down the line there will be lots of sweet exclusives coming out for the ps3.

I bought a 360 in november of 2006 and have been loving it ever since. I got a 40gb PS3 about 3 weeks ago (mostly because I wanted a BR player). I will definitely be buying some PS3 exclusives in 2008 (and playing some that I will have access to because my brother has a PS3 back home). However, I will be buying pretty much any multiplatform game for the 360. I like live, and I absolutely love the 360 controller. For me, the controller is the biggest part in my decision. The 360 controller just fits my hands better and is more comfortable (for me) over periods of extended use. My ps3 gets plenty of use playing DVDs and BRs; however, it will see more limited gaming than the 360 (not that this is a problem, for $400 I love what it can do).

IMHO, as a gamer, there are plenty of good exclusive games for BOTH systems to keep you busy. However, I would be hard pressed to suggest selling a 360 to buy a PS3 at this point. Adding a PS3 to your AV rack is never a bad idea... I just wouldn't get rid of the 360 (personally).

Well, I am sure glad I came here. You guys have brought up some very good points I wasn't even considering. I think given the price of the 40GB PS3 versus a decent Blueray player w/TrueHD decoding, it actually makes sense for me to buy the PS3 AND keep the Xbox. I already have some games I like with it and you are right, I will probably loose too much money if I put it up for sale. Funny, I will end up with devices from both side of the fence: HD-DVD STB / BlueRay player. Xbox / PS3

So, what the hell, I am keeping both so that I can enjoy the best of both worlds <cough>NG2</cough> :D

thanks so much for your input.

-Robert
xbox: 'evilkernel'

The fact that PS3 is such an outstanding Upconverting DVD player and the fact that it decodes TrueHD (possibly/probably DTS-MA in the future) has saved me hundreds of dollars, since I don't need to spend $1000 on a good A/V receiver that does all of these things.

The only reason I didn't keep my X360 was because most of the best games are on both systems. I'll miss out on the exclusives that I haven't played yet though, eg. Lost Odyssey, Ninja Gaiden 2, Fable 2, Too Human, etc..

I have both. I would keep the 360 and add a ps3. You get the best of both worlds and blu ray. You might not like console games, some people are more comfortable with key/mouse then a controller.

I have both now as well, being a new PS3 owner. At first I had buyers regret buying the PS3 to be honest. Its locked up twice, and I cannot play a DIVX from start to finish without it going back to the menu (Hopefully that will be fixed by going wired). Then I got Uncharted, and begin to really enjoy the PS3. Then I got some BluRays from Netflix (the reason I bought now) and felt alot better.

But I wouldnt get rid of the 360 for several reasons.
(1) What are you going to get for it? The RRoD has to kill resale values
(2) DIVX support that works 100%
(3) WMV-HD support (for playing those HD downloadables)
(4) Xbox Live
(4) Gears2, Halo3 as well as other games. Plus the best game I have played on either system has been Bioshock and hopefully they are working on a sequel.

I told myself I wasn't going to buy either next-gen systems, then bought a 360 for media center, then after HDDVD bit the dust (OK when the writing was on the wall), I bought a PS3 for BluRay. Then bought Uncharted and I am probably going to buy Warhawk soon. I dont feel too bad as I dont havea PC worth gaming on, and am not going to invest the money to make one playable.

The 360 definately has the upper hand when it comes to quality exclusives. I stopped using DLNA on my PS3 a loooooong time ago, because it would always disconnect my router and mess up my network. I dunno if they fixed this problem, but streaming music from my 360 works fine so I've never bothered trying it again. I'm sure BR becoming the dominant HD format will increase hardware sales, but it's not going to increase attach ratios, so I don't see developer support favoring the PS3 any time soon.

Plus the best game I have played on either system has been Bioshock and hopefully they are working on a sequel.



All good reasons, but that one right there is the best one. One of the top 3
games I've ever played... just a great game, great graphics, and great
storyline. I'm sure there'll be a sequel... that game is worth getting an Xbox
by itself, not to mention Gears and Halo which are each worth one in and of
themselves.

Whatever you get for a used 360 isn't worth just keeping it in the first place.

Both XBOX 360 and PS3 have decent looking lineups for this year.

Fable 2 is one that I am really interested in...just hope its not the let down and false advertisement that Fable 1 was.

But in all honestly, i would say 75% of the games I am interested in for 2008 are multi-platform...which for me means XBOX 360.

There are 2 or 3 PS3 only games that I am interested in.

I loved fable 1... that's blasphemy. lol

Only one of which interests me (GOW2) and 2 of which I'll probably be able to play on my PC (Alan Wake and GOW2), but point taken. 360's 2008 lineup isn't lackluster, but so far it doesn't look as strong as PS3, at least in games that interest me personally.


Most of us will not be gaming on a PC. I think it's just opinion. I'd take Gears of War, or Fable 2 over anything in the sony 2008 lineup.

Fortunately, I dont have to choose, as I have both a ps3, and xbox.:p

Why in the world do you ask about getting rid of your 360 in the PS3 forum???

I too am a PC gamer, and I was hoping a console this generation would be able to replace my PC for games, and allow me not to deal with the 2 year upgrades. Sadly, neither system can do that if you are used to a KB+M. The PS3 does allow a bluetooth KB+M to be connected, but the developers have been tight about allowing support for it in their games. Currently, the only game that allows KB+M support is Unreal.

There is a mouse controller for the PS3 called the FragFX. While it feels more comfortable than a controller, it is definately not the level of control a KB+M offers. Some games work better than others, so you might consider giving that a shot.

All in all, as a PC gamer, I do like my PS3, but my shooters I still play on the PC. If shooters are your primary game, just take the PS3 money and upgrade your PC. You will never be happy with a controller over native support if you are even a semi-competent KB+M user.

This could certainly change if they simply allow KB+M support in future titles and possibly patch older titles to enable support (dreaming :P).

Why in the world do you ask about getting rid of your 360 in the PS3 forum???

Where would you have posed such a question? in the Xbox forum? Would I have gotten any unbiased reactions from loving Xbox fanboy owners there?

I think this was the perfect forum to post this question - I you follow this thread from start to finish, you will notice that the responses I received were objective. Quite a few PS3 owners have advised againts selling the Xbox - to me that says it all.

I will be keeping both - I need a blue-ray player anyway and the price on the 40Gig PS3 really isn't high for a blueray device thar decodes TRUEHD to begin with.

Thanks again for your input fellas - there was obviously a lot I was not considering when I thought about selling the xbox - coming here has been a great help.

when in doubt, buy 'em all ;)

Good to hear you're keeping it.

The display and sound system you use to play 360 games make a huge difference in whether you will like console or pc gaming. I was a pc gamer until I got a projector and BAM... no more pc games for me. With a 100" + display and 7.1 audio, FPS on console is an experience, I gladly sacrificed the more precise control of K/M for a controller. I tried playing pc games on 100" but it felt a little uncomfortable. I have both PS3 and 360, personally I prefer the 360 controller, in fact I dislike using the PS3/PS2 controller for FPS. Therefore I buy the 360 version of the cross platform games.

when in doubt, buy 'em all ;)

Good to hear you're keeping it.

The truth will set you free!

aprilFOOL

I don't own a 360, but I'd say you've made the right choice in keeping it. If for no other reason than the depreciation. I will say that the PS3 has exceeded my expectations as a networked media device. Not too long after getting it, I ditched my dedicated HTPC because the PS3 did such a good job. uPnP MP3 streaming was flawless from day 1 from my NAS. I was able to convert my DVD collection off the HTPC into VOBs and play them off an external USB hard drive with DD5.1 soundtracks intact. And anything I can't play directly from there, I can play via TVersity from my main PC without an issue. And for the record, I have a 60gig PS3 and it's silent. Even after a few hours of COD4, still no noise.

Now, I too am a long time PC gamer. For FPS type games, you really can't beat a KB/M for precision controls. And I don't particularly like them on the consoles, but I love the racing games and platformers. And both systems have some excellent offerings.

The PS3 HDD is easily upgradeable. There's actually section in the user guide that comes in the box on doing so. All you need is a SATA 2.5" notebook hard drive. Newegg has a bunch of them in various sizes. And if you do the upgrade when you first get the console, you won't have to worry about backing anything up to an external drive first.

And as far as the photo thing, I can just pop the SD card out of my Canon and put it right in the card reader and look at the pictures on it. Same with the Memorystick in my Sony camera. I've not tried any other makes as all we have in my household are Canon's and my one Sony Cybershot, so YMMV there. But the slideshows are kinda neat.

I don't own a 360, but I'd say you've made the right choice in keeping it. If for no other reason than the depreciation. I will say that the PS3 has exceeded my expectations as a networked media device. Not too long after getting it, I ditched my dedicated HTPC because the PS3 did such a good job. uPnP MP3 streaming was flawless from day 1 from my NAS. I was able to convert my DVD collection off the HTPC into VOBs and play them off an external USB hard drive with DD5.1 soundtracks intact. And anything I can't play directly from there, I can play via TVersity from my main PC without an issue. And for the record, I have a 60gig PS3 and it's silent. Even after a few hours of COD4, still no noise.

Now, I too am a long time PC gamer. For FPS type games, you really can't beat a KB/M for precision controls. And I don't particularly like them on the consoles, but I love the racing games and platformers. And both systems have some excellent offerings.

The PS3 HDD is easily upgradeable. There's actually section in the user guide that comes in the box on doing so. All you need is a SATA 2.5" notebook hard drive. Newegg has a bunch of them in various sizes. And if you do the upgrade when you first get the console, you won't have to worry about backing anything up to an external drive first.

And as far as the photo thing, I can just pop the SD card out of my Canon and put it right in the card reader and look at the pictures on it. Same with the Memorystick in my Sony camera. I've not tried any other makes as all we have in my household are Canon's and my one Sony Cybershot, so YMMV there. But the slideshows are kinda neat.

Cool - looking forward to getting it tomorrow. I was wondering, what kind of NAS device do you happen to have? I have been contemplating getting one for a while - it would be a nice addition to my home domain and offer an offstorage option for mu automated backups...

yea, definitely keep the 360, its definitely worth it. i will be getting the PS3 when the system includes the Dual Shock 3 controller. hopefully that will be around the same time Metal Gear Solid 4 is out.

You should rethink only having 1 console, keep the 360, and save up for a PS3. This seems to be the only way you will truly be happy, and you WILL be happy.

360 has a low resale value vs PS3 those are rare hard drives on PS3 so they sell for more if not equal what you pay for.......for a 360 elite you can get used for like 150 bucks folks paid 450 for them PS3 you can still pay 400 dollars if not 600 dollars for rare 60gb first versions :cool:

This totally up to you,
all you are going to get from this thread is a bunch of of opinions and you know what they say about opinions!!

Ok, so heres mine....
Get both. Even though the Xbox is a POS it still has some exclusives you may or may not want to play. The PS3 is must have. You may want to complete the triple crown and get a Wii.
There ya go
Pen

Gone on long enough...