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Slacker George
02-22-08, 05:07 AM
Gamesindustry.biz interviews SCEA's new vice president of product marketing.

Full article:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=33414

We noticed that you haven't made a keynote this year, and unless you're saving something for tomorrow, it doesn't seem as if you'll be making any big announcements this year at GDC. Is there a reason for that? Are you waiting for E3?

Well, I'll announce it here – there won’t be any announcements, so don't worry about tomorrow. There's no news coming out.


In terms of titles you are looking at in 2008, what do you have to counteract the just-announced Gears of War 2? One of the downsides of having a breadth of titles is that you might not be able to point to any one title like a Halo 3 or a GTA that are going to sell consoles. Is there a single strong PS3 title in your mind that you can point to like that?

Well, I think it is really easy to point to one when you've only got one. And so by default, that sort of solves itself.

I don't want to say that we have an embarrassment of riches, but we have the ability to go in a bunch of different directions depending upon the choice and the taste of the gamer. So we're not just forcing one genre upon our population, our installed base.

Let's break it down by calendar. It makes it a little easier to keep them organised.

We start with – and these are for the most part exclusive – but we are starting with our baseball game MLB: The Show. And quite frankly then go into a great month of April where we've got Grand Theft Auto IV and Gran Turismo 5 Prologue. Anybody on the sidelines waiting for some exclusive content – Gran Turismo has been emblematic of the PlayStation brand. It's celebrating its tenth anniversary in 2008. A lot of people bought their PS2 for GT, so I think it is an important sea change product for us.

We almost go into a completely different mindset with Little Big Planet. It's very…You could almost say unusual in the sense that it's not a shooter, it is something you would definitely not see from any of the other companies. It's a very social, sharing, creating style game. Shipping in the summer/fall.

SOCOM: Confrontation shipping in the summer. SOCOM is also one of those emblematic PlayStation brands. Multiplayer. A lot of folks have grown around the PS2 [version]. Killzone 2…not quite new IP, but certainly not an established brand like SOCOM. That will be a huge FPS title.

And I think one of the biggest games for us will be Resistance 2. We expect that, in November, to go toe-to-toe against Gears of War 2. It will be our third-generation PS3 product. Insomniac, having shipped Resistance 1, quietly sold a million units. And then Ratchet & Clank last fall. This is the third [game] on their technology shipping in November.

I welcome the head-to-head competition. I think it is going to be really exciting to see how we sort of put some distance graphically and from a fidelity standpoint with third-generation tech against the HD-DVD effort.

Some of these games you are seeing, like a Metal Gear Solid 4 which is a summertime exclusive, plus Resistance 2 – they're tipping the scales at 30, 40, 50GB. And if you tried to do that on HD-DVD, it would be like those old-school floppy [disc] games in your Apple and Commodore [mimics switching disks in and out]. I don't know about you, but I've been there, done that. I'm probably not ever going to go back. Even if you are double-layer on the DVD side, you are nowhere near that size and scale.

So I think you'll see the biggest blockbusters feel and certainly exude the kind of Blu-ray magic and Blu-ray gaming that will become something important for the back half of the year.


What about Home? It has been a year since we first officially heard about it. Is it going to be ready?

That's the other side of why 2008 is so important. It's the year that we unfurl home.

We're still in the closed beta phase. And if you are a student of the game, you know closed beta will begat a more open beta, and we still haven't announced when that potentially would be, but the notion behind 2008 is that we come to the table with a kick-butt line-up software-wise and we show the full articulation of Home and the network…and maybe some special surprises within that context.

And I think we end the year with incredible momentum with those two elements working in concert together and really adding an exclamation mark to the PS3 for the year.


Last year we saw the price drop, coupled with the introduction of new SKUs and the discontinuation of some SKUs in certain territories. It still doesn't seem to be very settled. Can you talk about any plans for this year in terms of finally settling on hardware?

We're still looking at a lot of that stuff.

The lessons from the fall were pretty acute to us. We expected to sell a lot more of the USD 399 system than the USD 499 system. We entered 2008 pretty dry on the 80GB at USD 499 because of the equilibrium on sales for both systems.

We found that the hardcore guys were willing to spend that extra hundred dollars, and the more casual consumers without the bells and whistles were quite comfortable with a Blu-ray machine that, from a consumer electronics comparison, is still much more expensive than USD 399.

We weren't quite predicting that. We weren't predicting the evenness of those sales numbers and we got pretty light on the 80GB. You'll see that correct itself as we get deeper into the year. We are still sort of evaluating what that means from a going forward strategy. We're pointing to that commercial flow in the fall as a reason why we are still a little bit light at retail for those 80GB machines.


One thing that still distinguishes the Xbox 360 from the PlayStation 3 are the movies and television shows that can be purchased and downloaded. Why has it taken so long for Sony to offer something similar, especially considering that your company already has a movie and music studio?

I would beg you to look at history a little bit and remember how long it has taken the Xbox 360 to get to this point in time. It was by no means an overnight phenomenon.

I think that is one of the things that Sony brings leverage-wise to the table that our competition doesn't have, that we are an entertainment brand. We have the friends and family – Sony BMG music, the movie side of things. I can't answer it directly relative to when we are going to be launching, because we haven’t announced that. It is 2008.

That's why I can say that 2008 is so important to us not just from a product software standpoint, but from a services standpoint and from a network and store perspective.

The value add that we bring, and the leverage that we bring which our competition can't touch, is that we are an entertainment company. We have those relationships because they are us, and we can leverage that to a much greater degree.

Once we do it, it is going to be terrific. It's just a matter of later this year before we can really talk about it. Leverage is key in my mind as to why we are going to win – leverage with retail, leverage with movie studios, leverage with entertainment brands, leverage globally.

You know the story that's happening in Europe. The story has already been written in Japan relative to who's a player and who's not. Development and other publishers, especially the publicly-traded ones, need to look at the world globally and that's where our leverage and the PlayStation brand's leverage really pays dividends.

I think all that makes for why we talk about 2008 as being such a critical year.

J__Chris
02-22-08, 05:54 AM
appears that they are definitely looking at the long term with this console

FrankJ.Cone
02-22-08, 05:57 AM
One thing that still distinguishes the Xbox 360 from the PlayStation 3 are the movies and television shows that can be purchased and downloaded. Why has it taken so long for Sony to offer something similar, especially considering that your company already has a movie and music studio?

I would beg you to look at history a little bit and remember how long it has taken the Xbox 360 to get to this point in time. It was by no means an overnight phenomenon.

This guy was obviously unprepared for this question as it took 12 months for this on Live and Sony is at 15 months and counting. And Sony owns thousands of movies they could release without needing to negotiate with a single company.

Its great to hear they will get it out in 2008 though as this space would certainly benefit from some competition.


Last year we saw the price drop, coupled with the introduction of new SKUs and the discontinuation of some SKUs in certain territories. It still doesn't seem to be very settled. Can you talk about any plans for this year in terms of finally settling on hardware?

We're still looking at a lot of that stuff.

This sure seems to point to yet another new SKU. Those hardware rumors seem to come true everytime!



The lessons from the fall were pretty acute to us. We expected to sell a lot more of the USD 399 system than the USD 499 system. We entered 2008 pretty dry on the 80GB at USD 499 because of the equilibrium on sales for both systems.


Hmm the sales charts had the 80G far outselling the 40G, not exactly what one would call "equilibrium"


SOCOM: Confrontation shipping in the summer. SOCOM is also one of those emblematic PlayStation brands

I loved the orginal SOCOM, glad to hear this will be a summer title and not fall.

rahzel
02-22-08, 06:14 AM
Hmm the sales charts had the 80G far outselling the 40G, not exactly what one would call "equilibrium".
which one(s)? NPD did mention the 80GB outsold the 40GB in the last quarter, however they were unable to comment on by how much. they also mentioned that the 40GB sold well in January (most likely due to the Warner announcement). in Japan, the 40GB is also selling well. dunno about Europe or the rest of the world, though.

the 80GB is certainly more popular. but i think the sales of the 40GB vs 80GB are a lot closer than many think.

confidenceman
02-22-08, 06:16 AM
This sure seems to point to yet another new SKU. Those hardware rumors seem to come true everytime!No one's questioning if a new sku is coming. Everyone's questioning when.

If you look at the statements he's making, he gives an outright explanation for why there seem to be no 80gig skus anywhere:
We weren't quite predicting that. We weren't predicting the evenness of those sales numbers and we got pretty light on the 80GB. You'll see that correct itself as we get deeper into the year. We are still sort of evaluating what that means from a going forward strategy. We're pointing to that commercial flow in the fall as a reason why we are still a little bit light at retail for those 80GB machines.From what it sounds like, Sony had assumed they would start gearing up for a new sku, and slowed production/distribution on the 80gig sku. But since the 80gig started selling so well, it sounds like they're seriously reconsidering that approach. Hence the confusion over the "missing" 80gig. Hence the lack of an announcement from Sony about a new sku.

They probably had planned on phasing out the 80gig through the spring and summer, but now it's selling well enough on its own to justify keeping it in production... Except that now Sony's lost some sales momentum on that sku, so they may have to introduce a new sku soon regardless.

CDRACING
02-22-08, 06:40 AM
Hmm think xbox Live has been out for atleast 5 yrs or so not just 12 months. Now the 15 months for PSN may be correct.

dboss
02-22-08, 11:26 AM
Hmm think xbox Live has been out for atleast 5 yrs or so not just 12 months. Now the 15 months for PSN may be correct.

+1

Is someone forgetting about the original Xbox?

Having said that, I'm disappointed in the lack of announcements from Sony at GDC.

clutch69
02-22-08, 11:35 AM
Wow, sounds like they are pretty far off from anything awesome. I am a day one adopter. I hope my PS3 lasts by the time cooler stuff comes out.

joeblow
02-22-08, 11:37 AM
I honestly think Sony's holding off of movie dloads so Blu-ray can gain a better foothold. He didn't say it's coming later in 2008, he said they'll talk about it later in 2008. My guess is they'll wait until well after this Christmas season to make it available on a limited basis.

Overall, a good interview. A bit disappointing to see MGS4 slipped to summer of '08 if I am reading him correctly, but what can you do.

William Mapstone
02-22-08, 11:57 AM
no thanks to low quality HD movie downloads.....

briankmonkey
02-22-08, 12:14 PM
no thanks to low quality HD movie downloads.....

Same hear, if they are as low quality and overpriced as Live and Comcast on demand I will not be using them. I will at leat give it a shot as I did live but I'm not optimistic.

William Mapstone
02-22-08, 12:32 PM
What does Live charge? And do you own the movie or is it just a rental?

briankmonkey
02-22-08, 12:34 PM
What does Live charge? And do you get to keep the movie on your HDD?

The one I rented was $5.99 but you can get SD as well for less and not all titles are the same price. It's been a while since I sold my fried 360's replacement but I believe it can stay on the HDD for a few days.

jrinck
02-22-08, 12:37 PM
This interview was a whole lot of nothing. Obviously, Home is so far away from reality that the term "vaporware" is starting to enter my mind, otherwise he would have been able to be a bit more committal about its release.

GT5 isn't going to sell a ton of systems. I played the demo and I wasn't very impressed. I had GT4 for the PS2, complete with wheel and everything, and that game seemed much more fun. Has Gran Turismo reached its saturation point?

But Home is the big issue here. Microsoft is CLOBBERING Sony in the online community, and the only reason I didn't buy a 360 is because of the RROD. I really wanted a 360 and still kind of do, actually, so Sony is IMMENSELY lucky that Microsoft engineering sucks so badly.

Raven3698
02-22-08, 12:40 PM
live Charges under $5 but you are only renting it for a few days...

I don't know if Resistance 2 will keep up with Gears as much as he's hoping it will.. I am in the middle of Playing Resistance: Fall of Man now, and I don't think it has anything except the Multiplayer (from what I hear) on Gears...

Conspiracy*
02-22-08, 01:01 PM
Wow, sounds like they are pretty far off from anything awesome. I am a day one adopter. I hope my PS3 lasts by the time cooler stuff comes out.

Im sure by the time some of the "cooler" stuff comes out you'll find something wrong with it and complain about that too.

In the meantime I'll be enjoying Blurays and Video games.

William Mapstone
02-22-08, 01:02 PM
live Charges under $5 but you are only renting it for a few days...
So you are renting, not owning. So does the price vary depending on movie? Is under $5, $4.99 or $2.99?

William Mapstone
02-22-08, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by clutch69
I hope my PS3 lasts by the time cooler stuff comes out.
Free user created content in Unreal Tournament 3 is pretty cool...:cool: Thats available now by the way...LOL...

Raven3698
02-22-08, 01:22 PM
So you are renting, not owning. So does the price vary depending on movie? Is under $5, $4.99 or $2.99?

Well it seems like under $5 is wrong as someone else posted Movies range in prices depending on what format you get.. HD's are more than SD's.. I thought that they were under $5 but I guess you can't go by just glancing at the Xbox live Market place lol.. But the big thing is that it's renting..

vw195
02-22-08, 01:29 PM
+1

Is someone forgetting about the original Xbox?

-1

I am cancelling your +1 due to the fact that the original Live didnt have HD TV and movie content which was the original question. Besides why is Sony at 15 months and MSFT at 5 years?

freestyle
02-22-08, 01:39 PM
This interview was a whole lot of nothing. Obviously, Home is so far away from reality that the term "vaporware" is starting to enter my mind, otherwise he would have been able to be a bit more committal about its release.
PlayStation Home Beta On PS3 Gets Major Update As Release Nears (http://www.dbtechno.com/gaming/2008/02/22/playstation-home-beta-on-ps3-gets-major-update-as-release-nears/) -Today

briankmonkey
02-22-08, 01:42 PM
Well it seems like under $5 is wrong as someone else posted Movies range in prices depending on what format you get.. HD's are more than SD's.. I thought that they were under $5 but I guess you can't go by just glancing at the Xbox live Market place lol.. But the big thing is that it's renting..

I rented a new release and it was definitely $6 for the HD version, I think the SD option was $4. Older titles were like a buck less when I did it.

I'm not sure if the pricing structure has changed since then.

William Mapstone
02-22-08, 02:44 PM
What resolution is the HD version on Live? Sorry for all the questions, I don't own a 360. The prices seem kinda expensive, might as well netfilx, or go buy the DVD for $5 in the bargain bin.

jrinck
02-22-08, 02:53 PM
PlayStation Home Beta On PS3 Gets Major Update As Release Nears (http://www.dbtechno.com/gaming/2008/02/22/playstation-home-beta-on-ps3-gets-major-update-as-release-nears/) -Today

I really know how to time my criticisms, don't I? :D

methos75
02-22-08, 02:56 PM
On the downloadable movies and shows on PSN, IMO it will never happen. Sony is pushing BD with the BDA, and both are in a war between physical media and DL media so IMO it makes no logical buisness sense for Sony to allow DL movies on the PS3 when they are trying so hard to secure BD as the media of the future.

briankmonkey
02-22-08, 03:20 PM
What resolution is the HD version on Live? Sorry for all the questions, I don't own a 360. The prices seem kinda expensive, might as well netfilx, or go buy the DVD for $5 in the bargain bin.

720p, but you have to remember just because something is a certain resolution doesn't mean it is good. Just as 1080p trailers on the PSN are inferior to the actual blu-ray movies. Sound quality also doesn't match up.

todrigo
02-22-08, 03:24 PM
On the downloadable movies and shows on PSN, IMO it will never happen. Sony is pushing BD with the BDA, and both are in a war between physical media and DL media so IMO it makes no logical buisness sense for Sony to allow DL movies on the PS3 when they are trying so hard to secure BD as the media of the future.

IMO those are two different product categories. Downloads would be a rental product BDs would be a purchase product. If Sony feels they can make a profit on both why wouldn't they do that. BD being the media of the future is less about competition with DL rentals than about the speed at which consumers are upgrading their TV's to HD beyond just the primary viewing room.

Abaddon
02-22-08, 03:39 PM
On the downloadable movies and shows on PSN, IMO it will never happen. Sony is pushing BD with the BDA, and both are in a war between physical media and DL media so IMO it makes no logical buisness sense for Sony to allow DL movies on the PS3 when they are trying so hard to secure BD as the media of the future.In the originally quoted article SCEA's Scott Steinberg revealed that downloadable movies will happen in 2008.

Here's the quote:One thing that still distinguishes the Xbox 360 from the PlayStation 3 are the movies and television shows that can be purchased and downloaded. Why has it taken so long for Sony to offer something similar, especially considering that your company already has a movie and music studio?
I would beg you to look at history a little bit and remember how long it has taken the Xbox 360 to get to this point in time. It was by no means an overnight phenomenon.
I think that is one of the things that Sony brings leverage-wise to the table that our competition doesn't have, that we are an entertainment brand. We have the friends and family – Sony BMG music, the movie side of things. I can't answer it directly relative to when we are going to be launching, because we haven’t announced that. It is 2008.

[EDIT] Of course, this is the originally linked article, LOL, so I've removed the redundant link. But the quote still bears calling out.

Shape
02-22-08, 03:41 PM
+1

Is someone forgetting about the original Xbox?

Having said that, I'm disappointed in the lack of announcements from Sony at GDC.

The PS2 also had an online capability. It just wasn't all that great. Sony had the opportunity to launch a comprehensive service back then. They just chose not to.

William Mapstone
02-22-08, 03:50 PM
Originally posted by briankmonkey
720p, but you have to remember just because something is a certain resolution doesn't mean it is good.
Good point! Artifacts can be very annoying...

vw195
02-22-08, 03:56 PM
The PS2 also had an online capability. It just wasn't all that great. Sony had the opportunity to launch a comprehensive service back then. They just chose not to.

+1

orogogus
02-22-08, 04:24 PM
But Home is the big issue here. Microsoft is CLOBBERING Sony in the online community, and the only reason I didn't buy a 360 is because of the RROD. I really wanted a 360 and still kind of do, actually, so Sony is IMMENSELY lucky that Microsoft engineering sucks so badly.

While I agree on the online comments, I'm curious to know why you would be afraid of the RRoD given the generous warranty extension, and the new Falcon and soon to be Jasper revisions to the console?

Now that BD is the HDM king, I'm in the position of accelerating my potential PS3 purchase. I'm happy to know that 2008 might actually make me happy from a games standpoint. I wish I knew what was going to happen wrt backwards compatibility on future hardware and I wish the PS3 had an IR port so it would play nice with my harmony remote... :( Otherwise maybe a panasonic bd-50 is in my future.

orogogus
02-22-08, 04:27 PM
Well it seems like under $5 is wrong as someone else posted Movies range in prices depending on what format you get.. HD's are more than SD's.. I thought that they were under $5 but I guess you can't go by just glancing at the Xbox live Market place lol.. But the big thing is that it's renting..

Do you think that when Sony rolls out it's service it somehow won't be a DRMed rental? I think it would be great if they released at 1080p vs 720p but that will up the file size fairly substantially. That being said they could really tweak the playback software for the strengths of a digital file using the cell to decode vs being stuck to spinning disk playback paradigms, so they should pick up some efficiency there.

orogogus
02-22-08, 04:30 PM
720p, but you have to remember just because something is a certain resolution doesn't mean it is good. Just as 1080p trailers on the PSN are inferior to the actual blu-ray movies. Sound quality also doesn't match up.

The sounds is actually the biggest gripe to me. From what I understand this is mostly the studio's fault as they don't give the MS guys the multi-channel master in the first place all the time. It's particularly annoying in that the audio doesn't really add that much to the footprint of the file to begin with and is one of the best things (IMO) about the HDM formats.

Like all things the end PQ is more of a function of the master than the target resolution or encoder used (assuming a skilled operator in any case).

William Mapstone
02-22-08, 04:50 PM
Whats this soon to be "jasper revision" to the 360?:confused:

briankmonkey
02-22-08, 04:50 PM
The sounds is actually the biggest gripe to me. From what I understand this is mostly the studio's fault as they don't give the MS guys the multi-channel master in the first place all the time. It's particularly annoying in that the audio doesn't really add that much to the footprint of the file to begin with and is one of the best things (IMO) about the HDM formats.

Like all things the end PQ is more of a function of the master than the target resolution or encoder used (assuming a skilled operator in any case).

I agree your first point. The lack of top notch sound quality is one of the major gripes I have with these VOD services.

However on the last point I definitely think the encoding makes a difference as the trailers don't match up to the actual blu-ray discs purchased quite often and I'd be surprised if they have different masters. Most likely they are just compressed way too much, same with the VOD, they just don't give them high enough bitrate transfers to match up to the pristine blu-ray or even HD DVD transfers.

FrankJ.Cone
02-23-08, 07:13 AM
+1

Is someone forgetting about the original Xbox?

Having said that, I'm disappointed in the lack of announcements from Sony at GDC.


If you want to count last gen ell then Sony has had online for just as long! My PS3 was online wasn't yours? (SOCOM!)

FrankJ.Cone
02-23-08, 07:16 AM
no thanks to low quality HD movie downloads.....

Buy YES thank you for the ones on Live and the ones I am sure PSN will have. As good as BR? Nope but then its going to be a hell off a lot better for most movies. We own about 50 BR but there are probably 200+ other movies I'd like to see in HD but not enough to own them. Instead of hoping Netflix has them in stock and waiting I would love to logon and download them same day. I can start watching a 720P HD movie now in an hour, Netflix is 2 days at best.

FrankJ.Cone
02-23-08, 07:18 AM
Good point! Artifacts can be very annoying...

Yep. And try and tell those of us that own House of Flying Daggers BR never has artifacts! The medium is not the only factor in video quality. BR, like HD-DVD, VoD and DVD all vary GREATLY in quality!

William Mapstone
02-23-08, 10:56 AM
Originally posted by FrankJ.Cone
I can start watching a 720P HD movie now in an hour, Netflix is 2 days at best.

I am patient enough to wait for the BD copy to come in from netflix. And now that HD-DVD lost the war, and netflix is not buying any new HD-DVD, hopefully they will buy more BD to help improve service.

Originally posted by FrankJ.Cone
And try and tell those of us that own House of Flying Daggers BR never has artifacts!
Like DVD, early disks often had problems, hence the reason I wait for reviews before buying. Shoot, even the re-release of Tombstone on DVD had artifact problems.