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Lightbulb HDTV DVR Comparison - Consumer Owned Units

Last Updated: December 29, 2009

The following table compares the off-air and cable HDTV recorders available for purchase and ownership. These are the only standalone products still available that will record high-definition without a satellite subscription or cable STB/DVR rental fees.

There are satellite DVRs that can receive OTA signals, but those leased DVRs do not function without both a satellite subscription and DVR fee. Cable companies will not activate any other consumer-owned DVRs, aside from those below and the discontinued Sony DHD. The Cisco, Motorola, Pace, and Scientific Atlanta recorders sold on ebay/craigslist will not work on any U.S. cable system.

One SD recorder (Magnavox 2160) is included for comparison.

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TRIPLE TUNER
 
SD Recorder
HD Recorder
HD Recorder
HD Recorder
HD Recorder
HD Recorder
PRICING      
Price online
$369 + HDD
(Includes extender)
DVR subscription required?
None
None
None
$129/year or
$399 payment
to eliminate all fees
Included
Included
Total upfront cost without any future fees
$227
$400+
$300
$620
$799 for 1TB XL
$499
$799
(Includes extender)
       
SOURCES SUPPORTED      
Off-air channels from antenna
X
X
X
X
Analog channels on cable
X
  
($129 option)
($129 option)
Unencrypted digital channels on cable (SD/HD locals, public service)
X
X
X
X
X
Encrypted digital channels on cable (CNN, TNT, ESPN, HBO, etc)    
(With CableCard)
(With CableCard)
(With CableCard)
Switched digital video channels on cable w/ tuning adapter (Issues)   
X
X
X*
Display all cable channels with same numbers as cable box    
(With CableCard)
X
X
Separate coax inputs for antenna and cable    
X
  
       
BASIC FUNCTIONALITY       
Program guide  
High-definition picture with Dolby Digital  
X
X
X
X
X
Pause, instant replay, and rewind on liveTV
X
X
X
X
X
X
Record X different channels simultaneously
1
2
2
2
2*
3*
Recording time estimate (built-in)
33 SD hours
66 SD hours (SP)
 
30 HD hours
21 HD hours
157 HD hours on XL
75 HD hours
75 HD hours
Recording time with plug-and-play external drive  
300 HD hours*
 
165 HD hours
300 HD hours on XL
375 HD hours*
1000 HD w/ RAID
375 HD hours*
1000 HD w/ RAID
Record scheduling method
Timers
Timers
Timers
Name-based
Name-based
Name-based
Recorded programs are listed with program title  
(Most locals)
X
X
X
X
Record one channel while you watch another live  
X
X
X
X
X
Watch a previously recorded program while recording
X
 
X
X
X
X
Watch a recording-in-progress from the beginning
X
 
X
X
X
X
Remembers where you left off in every recording
X
X
X
X
X
X
Pause, replay, 30sec skip, slo mo, and multiple speeds of FF/RW
X
(All except slo)
X
X
X
X
Play recordings at 0.8 - 1.3x speed with audio
X
     
Skip-to-tick or comparable (i.e. skip 15+ minutes at a time)  
X
 
X
X
X
Progress bar (on trickplay) shows current position in video
X
X
X
X
X
X
Conflict management    
X
X
X
Record programs it thinks you will like using free space    
X
  
Set default settings for single and series recordings     
X
X
Closed captions on recordings
X
 
X
X
X
X
       
PROGRAM INFORMATION       
Days of information
None
8 hours
varies by channel
8 days
14 days
14 days
14 days
Program titles on all channels  
(Most locals)
(Most locals)
X
X
X
Program descriptions on all channels   
(Most locals in
X
X
X
Detailed episode descriptions, actors, and original airdate, new or repeat    
X
X
X
Method of guide data delivery  
antenna
antenna
Internet or phone
Internet
Internet
Source of program information  
PSIP
TVGOS
PSIP as backup
via TiVo servers
via Moxi servers
via Moxi servers
Program information available 24/7/365    
X
X
X
Program information never goes out for a channel    
X
X
X
No CableCard needed for info on unencrypted digital cable channels    
(Requires CableCard)
X
X
       
LIVETV FEATURES       
Buffer always active when recorder is on
X
(Only after pause)
X
X
X
X
Buffer time for pause, replay, rewind on liveTV
6 hours SD
Unlimited
(One tuner only)
1 hour HD
(One tuner only)
1 hour HD
(30 mins per tuner)
3-6 hours HD
(1.5+ hours per tuner)
5-9 hours HD
(1.5+ hours per tuner)
Number of tuners with independent liveTV buffers
1
1
1
2
2
3
Swap between multiple tuners without losing buffer or pause position    
X
(Loses position)
(Loses position)
Buffer is not reset when you change the channel on a tuner
X
X
    
Buffer (i.e. ability to pause, replay) available when recording in background  
X
X
X
X
Save entire buffer to a recording
X
 
X
   
Save only buffer for current program to recording    
X
X
X
       
RECORD FEATURES       
Records HD video without quality loss
(Records in SD)
X
X
X
X
X
Records Dolby Digital 5.1 surround sound
X
X
X
X
X
Timer-based recording (records using VCR-like timers)
X
X
X
(User option)
  
Name-based recording (records and tracks programs by their name)    
X
X
X
Record only new episodes and ignore repeats option    
X
X
X
Auto-record all future programs matching a saved search (ex: all Yankees games)    
X
  
Series manager to prioritize what is recorded when 3+ programs conflict    
X
X
X
Adjusts schedule automatically when programs change their days, times, and/or lengths    
X
X
X
Programs missed due to conflicts are automatically recorded the next time they air    
X
X
X
Overlap protection to eliminate conflicts when programs overlap by up to 5 minutes    
X
  
Keeps recorded history to prevent same program from recording twice    
X
X
X
Restrict series recordings to a single timeslot    
(Req manual timer)
X
X
Start recordings early or end late
(Schedule edit)
(Schedule edit)
X
X
X
X
Keep only the last X episodes of a show    
X
X
X
Keep each recording "until I delete" or "until space is needed"   
X
X
X
X
Deletes oldest recording (not "keep until I delete") when space req'd for new recording   
(Bugged)
X
X
X
Record from antenna and cable channels simultaneously    
X
 
Record composite/s-video input
X
     
Edit or modify recordings
X
(Only after offload)
 
(Only after offload)
  
       
GUIDE FEATURES       
Guide implementation (with screenshot)
None
Grid-style guide details  
1 channel
Up to 5 hrs
9 channels
3 hrs per channel
8 channels
1.5 hrs per channel
6 channels
3 hrs per channel
6 channels
3 hrs per channel
Customizable favorites list    
X
(Based on usage)
(Based on usage)
Picture and sound while browsing guide  
X
 
X
X
X
Guide genre filters (show only movies, only sports, etc)    
X
X
X
Create recording from program guide selection  
X
X
X
X
X
View program guide without interrupting recorded playback    
X
X
X
Record indicators for future programs in guide   
X
 
X
X
Permanently delete individual channels from box  
X
X
X
X
X
Displays antenna and cable channels in a single guide   
X
 
Displays digital and analog cable channels in a single guide   
X
(With analog dongle)
(With analog dongle)
Connects daily to an Internet time server to ensure accurate clock  
X
 
X
X
X
Navigate through guide 90+ minutes at a time  
X
X
X
Navigate through guide 24 hours at a time  
X
X
X
X
X
Guide data available for past timeslots    
X
 
       
SEARCH FEATURES       
Search program titles and descriptions   
X
X
X
X
Record a single program found with search   
X
X
X
X
Search program titles, descriptions, actors, directors, and categories    
X
X
X
Search with multiple fields and boolean operators (AND/OR/NOT)    
X
  
Save searches with option to automatically record all future matches    
X
  
Search available titles on Netflix, Amazon Unbox VOD, and Blockbuster VOD    
X
  
       
DVR UI       
High-definition user interface (with screenshot)  
X
Number of programs shown on recorded list screen
6
7
6
8
10
10
Recorded list shows name and date of every recording  
(Only for OTA)
(Name only)
X
X
X
Recorded list can be sorted by name or date
(Date only)
(Date only)
X
X
(Name only)
(Name only)
Multiple episodes of same program grouped into folders with episode names and dates    
X
X
X
Play entire folder of recordings, back-to-back with one button press    
X
  
Single-click delete with Recently Deleted folder and undelete    
X
  
Record schedule shows names and dates of all upcoming programs  
(Locals only)
 
X
X
X
Recorded history shows why programs didn't record   
(Limited)
X
X
X
Free disk space estimate
X
X
X
(Recently Deleted)
X
X
No advertising of any kind
X
X
X
X
X
       
CAPACITY EXPANSION       
Hard drive capacity (internal)
160 GB
(Sold separately)
250 GB
160 GB
1000 GB on XL
500 GB
500 GB
External drive interface  
USB
 
eSATA
eSATA
eSATA
Plug-and-play external drive expansion  
Up to 2 TB
 
Up to 1 TB
Up to 6 TB w/ RAID
Up to 6 TB w/ RAID
Maximum recording time with plug-and-play expansion  
300 HD hours
 
165 HD hours
300 HD hours on XL
375 HD hours (2TB)
1000 HD hours (RAID)
375 HD hours (2TB)
1000 HD hours (RAID)
Interface seamlessly integrates contents of internal and external drives    
X
X
X
Contents of external drive are encrypted and inaccessible to a PC    
X
X
X
Allows unlimited number of interchangeable, plug-and-play drives     
X
X
Allows internal hard drive upgrades (voids warranty)
Up to 500 GB
Up to 2 TB
Up to 1 TB
Up to 1.26 TB
Up to 2.1 TB on XL
  
       
REMOTE       
Remote scheduling via the web and mobile phone    
X
X
X
Real-time conflict management for remote scheduling     
X
X
Edit and/or delete scheduled recordings online     
X
X
View list of recorded programs and upcoming / scheduled recordings online    
X
X
X
       
PARENTAL CONTROL OPTIONS       
Separate, content filtered recorded list for children with PIN-protected main list    
X
  
Require 4-digit PIN to view blocked content   
X
X
X
X
Block certain channels (i.e. require PIN to tune)   
X
X
X
X
Block TV programs at or above certain rating (ex: TV PG)   
(If info available)
X
X
X
Block movies at or above certain rating (ex: R, NC-17)   
(If info available)
X
X
X
Block unrated movies and/or TV programs   
X
X
X
X
Block all programs with specific content (sexual content, violence, etc)   
(If info available)
X
  
Parental controls temporarily disabled when PIN is entered, and then:   
X
X
X
X
(a) Parental controls re-enable after channel change or recording exit   
X
  
(b) Parental controls re-enable after a preset time period     
X
X
(c) Parental controls re-enable after period of remote inactivity    
X
(Uses preset timer)
(Uses preset timer)
(d) Parental controls re-enable after DVR is set to off/standby    
X
(Uses preset timer)
(Uses preset timer)
Parental controls can be turned off completely (with PIN)   
X
X
X
X
       
OFFLOAD RECORDINGS       
Offload implementation  
SAMBA, FTP
 
HTTP
View 1, 2
  
Download all recorded files from OTA & unencrypted cable channels  
X
 
X
  
Download all recorded files from encrypted cable channels flagged as CCI=0x00    
X
  
Download all recorded files from encrypted cable channels flagged as CCI=0x02       
Software to automatically download episodes of favorite series after they record    
X
  
All recordings downloaded as is, including full HD with DD5.1  
X
 
X
  
View and edit recorded files on a computer  
X
 
X
  
Burn recorded files to Blu-ray disk or DVD  
X
 
X
  
Transfer recordings to mobile device (iPod, ZuneHD, etc)  
(W/ other software)
 
X
  
Transfer HD and SD recorded files from computer back to DVR  
X
 
X
  
Format of recorded files  
TS
 
MPG
  
       
MULTI-ROOM FUNCTIONALITY       
Multi-room implementation    
Transfers
to other DVRs
Streams
to DVRs or extenders
Streams
to DVRs or extenders
Each DVR can send HD recordings to X rooms simultaneously    
1
1
2
Multi-room viewing works with copy protected recordings (ex: HBO)     
X
X
Pause a recording in one room and resume it in a another    
X
X
X
Completed recordings can be viewed in another room    
X
X
X
Recordings-in-progress can be viewed in another room     
X
X
FF/REW through entire recordings without waiting for transfer     
X
X
All DVRs in home can share a single series manager       
Recorded programs on multiple DVRs are all combined into a single list    
X
X
Network throughput sufficient to skip all commercials without delay    
Sometimes
Always
Always
Set-top extenders available to view recorded programs     
X
X
(One extender included)
Set-top extenders can schedule, manage, and delete recordings       
Set-top extenders can view EPG and liveTV using DVR's tuners     
X
X
       
PC MEDIA       
DLNA compliant  
X
  
X
X
Native DIVX support  
X
 
(Requires transcoding)
X
X
Native MPEG-4 AVC and VC-1 support  
X
(Not in software)
X
X
X
Browse network shares without PC software  
X
    
Transfer PC videos to DVR for viewing  
X
 
X
  
Stream PC videos to DVR for viewing  
X
 
(Limited)
X
X
Play music stored on computer elsewhere in home
(DVD only)
X
 
X
X
X
View pictures stored on computer elsewhere in home
(DVD only)
X
 
X
X
X
Play videos, music, or view pictures while recording TV
(DVD only)
  
X
X
X
       
NETWORK CONNECTIVITY       
Wired network connection  
100Mbps
100Mbps
100Mbps
100Mbps
100Mbps
Wireless network connection  
802.11n
(Requires bridge)
($39 option)
(Requires bridge)
(Requires bridge)
Connects daily to an Internet time server to ensure accurate clock  
X
 
X
X
X
Download software updates using network connection  
X
X
X
X
X
Ticker bar to show headlines, stock ticker, sports scores on screen     
X
X
Subscribe to specific RSS video feeds and podcasts    
X
  
Amazon OnDemand SD/HD with "TV Passes"    
X
  
Blockbuster OnDemand SD/HD    
X
  
Roxio CinemaNow     
Vudu OnDemand HD and HDX       
Netflix SD/HD streaming    
X
Netflix SD
(Requires PC software)
Netflix SD
(Requires PC software)
Youtube  
X
 
X
(Requires PC software)
(Requires PC software)
       
CONNECTIONS       
HDMI / Component
X/X
X/-
X/X
X/X
X/X
X/X
S-Video / Composite
X/X
-/X
-/X
X/X
X/X
X/X
High-definition output through HDMI and component?  
(HDMI only)
X
X
X
X
Downconverts HD video to SD over s-video and composite connections
X
(Composite only)
(Composite only)
X
X
X
Native output mode to output all video as is without conversion    
X
X
X
All HD and SD outputs active simultaneously   
X
X
(Only in SD mode)
(Only in SD mode)
Allows 16:9 anamorphic output through SD connections
X
?
X
X
  
Coax passthrough for TV tuner
X
 
(When off)
   
      
HARDWARE DETAILS       
Product release date
Dec 2008
Nov 2009
Dec 2008
Jul 2007
Apr 2009
Nov 2009
System processor
?
Realtek
RTD1283 (400MHz)
STMicro
STi7109 (266MHz)
Broadcom
BCM7401 (300MHz)
Broadcom
BCM7400 (350MHz)
Broadcom
BCM7400 (350MHz)
System memory
32 MB (?)
256 MB
160 MB
256 MB
256 MB
512 MB
Hard drive
WD1600AVBB
 
WD2500AAJS
WD1600AVBS
WD10EVVS in XL
?
?
Tuners (built-in)
1 ATSC
1 QAM
1 NTSC
2 ATSC
2 QAM
2 ATSC
2 ATSC
2 QAM
2 NTSC
2 QAM
3 QAM
Multistream CableCard slot    
X
X
X
Power consumption
33W (in use)
20W (in use)
22W
34W
32W
32W
       
OTHER       
Requires phone line? Requires Internet connection?
No
No
No
(Req Internet or phone)
(Req Internet)
(Req Internet)
Supports cable company OnDemand
No
No
N/A
No
No
No
Built-in DVD writer
X
     
       
WARRANTY       
Parts warranty
One year
One year
90 days
One year
One year
One year
Extended warranty available?
Walmart.com
2 years for $20
3 years for $29
 
Sears.com
2yr for $45
TiVo.com
2 years for $30
3 years for $40
  
Cost to repair/replace after warranty expires
?
$369
$300
$150
$75 + parts cost
$75 + parts cost
Cost to transfer lifetime service to a replacement DVR
N/A
N/A
N/A
Free for three years
$199 after three years
N/A
N/A
       
SCREENSHOTS       
Recorded list  
View 1, 2, 3
Program guide  
View 1, 2
View 1, 2
View 1, 2
View 1, 2
Program info  
Record schedule      
Search   
View 1, 2
View 1, 2
View 1, 2
Main menu   
Progress bar   
Create recording   
Record options   
Manage/edit programs to record     
Network video playback    
View 1, 2
 
Multi-room viewing    
View 1, 2
 
Offload recordings    
View 1, 2, 3
  
       
VIDEO DEMOS    
       
DISCUSSION THREADS

Notes

* Triple-tuner Moxi functions as a dual-tuner DVR when a Cisco STA1520 SDV tuning adapter is connected. Moxi does not exhibit this limitation with the Motorola MTR700 tuning adapter.

* Moxi allows recording of one analog channel when the $129 USB analog dongle is connected. The analog dongle is treated as a separate third or fourth tuner, all of which can be used at the same time.

* This capacity assumes use of 2TB external drive.

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