The New PQ Tier thread for Blu-Ray - Discussion

AustinSTI · 06-07-07, 04:34 PM

Welcome Members and Friends to the Blu-Ray Picture Quality Thread.

"Oculi plus vident quam oculus." - "Several eyes see more than only one."

THE PQ TIER LISTS HAVE BEEN MOVED TO THIS THREAD:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1168342

_Avarice_ · 06-07-07, 04:37 PM

Deja-vu!

AustinSTI · 06-07-07, 04:38 PM

Placeholder

Wet1 · 06-07-07, 04:39 PM

This works for me.

JosephShaw · 06-07-07, 04:41 PM

Blood Diamond - Tier 5. Inconsistent image throughout, and the worst parts are really, really bad.

Kevin12586 · 06-07-07, 04:43 PM

Chicken Little

Jiffylush · 06-07-07, 04:43 PM

I think we should start fresh on the list, it would be more work but more people would feel like their opinions were factored into the rankings.

my .02

FWIW I think the best thing about the tier list is being able to compare the PQ of movies you haven't seen with movies you have seen. (I realize that was probably the original intent, but it seems that needs to be clarified)

patrick99 · 06-07-07, 04:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephShaw

Blood Diamond - Tier 5. Inconsistent image throughout, and the worst parts are really, really bad.

I'll vote for that result!

ajamils · 06-07-07, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JosephShaw

Blood Diamond - Tier 5. Inconsistent image throughout, and the worst parts are really, really bad.

Is your TV calibrated ? I don't think it deserve to be any lower than Tier 2.

Enola · 06-07-07, 04:46 PM

wow, im impressed. its nice to see planet earth finally getting some much needed loving. i also find myself agreeing with alot more of the placements, ie - kiss kiss bang bang. hope to see more of this!

edit - except BHD, that sucker is WAY to low. needs to be near the top.

Alan Gouger · 06-07-07, 04:46 PM

The guys started something in the HD DVD section as well. You both may want to ck to see what each other are doing and try to adopt the same system.

Ether way best of luck

EatingPie · 06-07-07, 04:46 PM

Thanks for restarting.

I hope you have a thick skin!

Even though people aren't going to agree 100% with the Tier rankings, this serves as a good general reference point. Not dead-on nailing the quality, but close enough to get an idea of what looks good and what doesn't.

-Pie

AustinSTI · 06-07-07, 04:48 PM

Blood Diamond Tier Voting Thread:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=858324

Voting closes in 5 days...

Wet1 · 06-07-07, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jiffylush

I think we should start fresh on the list, it would be more work but more people would feel like their opinions were factored into the rankings.

my .02

FWIW I think the best thing about the tier list is being able to compare the PQ of movies you haven't seen with movies you have seen. (I realize that was probably the original intent, but it seems that needs to be clarified)

I don't know about starting over, there's a lot of good info already here for reference.

I suggest that we build off this list. If folks have suggestions for titles to be repositioned, that we address them as a group.

AustinSTI · 06-07-07, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EatingPie

Thanks for restarting.

I hope you have a thick skin!

Even though people aren't going to agree 100% with the Tier rankings, this serves as a good general reference point. Not dead-on nailing the quality, but close enough to get an idea of what looks good and what doesn't.

-Pie

I don't care what people say - it'll never make everyone happy anyway. Voting will minimize things I hope. I could use a few volunteers to setup the polling threads weekly and ease the burden though; PM if interested.

AustinSTI · 06-07-07, 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kevin12586

Chicken Little

Added to Tier 0

AustinSTI · 06-07-07, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alan Gouger

The guys started something in the HD DVD section as well. You both may want to ck to see what each other are doing and try to adopt the same system.

Ether way best of luck

Thanks for the support Alan; appreciate the input!

Wet1 · 06-07-07, 04:55 PM

Once a poll decides which tier a title will be placed, who / how will it be determined where it's placed within the tier???

jewing1043 · 06-07-07, 04:56 PM

Is it AustinSTI or Fetta wannabe?

Iggster · 06-07-07, 04:56 PM

nice start

the hd dvd started off allot worst.

just one suggestion. dont let all the suggestions drive you nuts lol your gonna get allot of them.

AustinSTI · 06-07-07, 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wet1

Once a poll decides which tier a title will be placed, who / how will it be determined where it's placed within the tier???

Good Question - Open to Suggestions; perhaps replies within the polling thread concerning placement should be reviewed and used to determine where within the winning tier it goes. For example if Tier 3 gets the most votes and only one person gives feedback as to where it belongs within tier 3 that'd be where I'd put it...

AustinSTI · 06-07-07, 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jewing1043

Is it AustinSTI or Fetta wannabe?

How you gonna come along and make a comment like that? I found the FETT thread VERY useful as a new blu-rayer and I don't think it should die just because the guy left do you? The system worked pretty well from my standpoint and with a little democracy we can help others get feedback on movie PQ and add value.

JosephShaw · 06-07-07, 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajamils

Is your TV calibrated ? I don't think it deserve to be any lower than Tier 2.

Yes, calibrated 112" screen being viewed from DLP projector, as well as watching it on a 61" LCOS rear projection set. This is Talladega Nights/The Fifth Element territory when it comes to picture quality at the worst parts. And it's not that it doesn't look good in parts, but it's completely inconsistent and the bad parts are really, really bad. And I think, if this Tier thread is still about picture quality, the picture has to be judged on it's worst images if there are this many of them or the quality varies so wildly so often. Just my opinion.

JosephShaw · 06-07-07, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AustinSTI

Good Question - Open to Suggestions; perhaps replies within the polling thread concerning placement should be reviewed and used to determine where within the winning tier it goes. For example if Tier 3 gets the most votes and only one person gives feedback as to where it belongs within tier 3 that'd be where I'd put it...

Sounds good. However, your poll has a Tier 0-4, but there is a Tier 5. Is that a forum limitation? If so, will you be merging Tiers 4 and 5 in the thread?

JosephShaw · 06-07-07, 05:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jewing1043

Is it AustinSTI or Fetta wannabe?

N/M. Taken to PM.

donricouga · 06-07-07, 05:35 PM

Don't forget Weeds season 1. I vote for near the top of tier 3 or maybe mid tier 2. Its inconsistent. Still bought it and love the show though !

youknowryan · 06-07-07, 05:40 PM

BLack Hawk Down need to be top of tier 1 or bottom of tier 0.

ptaaty · 06-07-07, 05:52 PM

I am not sure how Apocalypto, and Casino Royale (Teir 2?!) were put so low on the list. Also Pirates CoTB should be in Tier 1. And how can MI:3 be well above Apocalypto and Casino Royale with the crushed blacks?

degas · 06-07-07, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ptaaty

I am not sure how Apocalypto, and Casino Royale (Teir 2?!) were put so low on the list. Also Pirates CoTB should be in Tier 1. And how can MI:3 be well above Apocalypto and Casino Royale with the crushed blacks?

I second that.

SamuraiCell · 06-07-07, 06:16 PM

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