Question for current HD DVD only supporters...

[frankinla]

I had a PSP once. I got it cause it could play movies on UMD... At the time probably one of the better set ups for watch movies on a plane (have you ever tried opening a laptop on a plane for 90 mins).

But then they came out with the iPod video, and then Amazon unbox (for the play for sure crowd). And then rippers and transcoders. Not to mention mp4s from the web.

And then they stopped making UMD movies (well, Sony pictures still releases some now and then).

And now you want to know if I want to start this all over again with Bl-UMD's, i mean Blu-Ray? Hummm... gonna pass this round.

[btp]

Originally Posted by MauneyM

I won't allow a game console to be connected to my HT - period. No price is low enough for me to buy a PS3 as a BD player.

I really cringe when I see people so stubborn and emotional that they deny themselves access to (arguably) the best and fastest BD player on the market and all the movies not available on HD DVD. I wasn't crazy about buying a "game system" either but I got over it real fast. Didn't take long to realize the PS3 is a very powerful piece of hardware and works very well as a BD/DVD player.

[seggers]

Originally Posted by SuperGrafx

Personal preference really.
Just as some people prefer American-made cars to imports, I prefer that my setup be devoid of any Sony products...PS3 and Blu-Ray formats included.

So, what are you going to do when HD DVD goes the way of the dodo and you can't get anymore HiDef films?

Sony won this time. Time to accept, grow up and move on.

And yes, I have several Sony pieces in my HT makeup, and they all get good reviews from people that come in to watch films/tv on/through them.

Seggers

[Jiffylush]

Thanks again for all the feedback guys, and I think SuperGrafx's expanation is fine.

It is his preference, just like someone who prefers American made to imports, for no other reason that it is their preference.

[Canuck21]

I want a stand-alone BD player, not an *ugly* game machine no matter how great it may be.

[1080please]

Originally Posted by btp

I really cringe when I see people so stubborn and emotional that they deny themselves access to (arguably) the best and fastest BD player on the market and all the movies not available on HD DVD. I wasn't crazy about buying a "game system" either but I got over it real fast. Didn't take long to realize the PS3 is a very powerful piece of hardware and works very well as a BD/DVD player.

It's a game system!
I don't want one, I don't care how great it plays it's movie discs.
Why do i feel sometimes when I read comments by few that love Blu-Ray and own a PS3 they need to sell me one?

[Jiffylush]

Originally Posted by 1080please

It's a game system!
I don't want one, I don't care how great it plays it's movie discs.
Why do i feel sometimes when I read comments by few that love Blu-Ray and own a PS3 they need to sell me one?

In my case it is because I really like it and just assume that others who are into video would really like it as well.

Sort of like my Prius, want to talk to me about that?

(just got it last weekend, due to totalling my cherokee, averaging 47mpg in my first week)

[theforce8686]

Originally Posted by 1080please

It's a game system!
I don't want one, I don't care how great it plays it's movie discs.
Why do i feel sometimes when I read comments by few that love Blu-Ray and own a PS3 they need to sell me one?

Why don't you put a big black metal case around it? I dont understand the dillema. Mine sits in my stand on its side just like my cable box, receiver, and hd dvd player. It is the same color and is actually smaller then the other 3 but they all are different sizes. Just because it is "techinically" a game machine doesnt mean anything to me.

[jp_tech]

Originally Posted by Canuck21

I want a stand-alone BD player, not an *ugly* game machine no matter how great it may be.

If it performs good then I don't care how ugly it is. Besides, I have an entertainment center where I could easily hide it. I would much rather have a good standalone player but if the PS3 is the best then I will get that.

[Hughmc]

Originally Posted by 1080please

It's a game system!
I don't want one, I don't care how great it plays it's movie discs.
Why do i feel sometimes when I read comments by few that love Blu-Ray and own a PS3 they need to sell me one?

Because you don't own one, therefore you don't really know how good they are and you come across as many do as seemingly being stubborn. Like you said you don't care how good it is, so even if it was the only player and or best player you wouldn't get one just out of sheer stubborness. Reverse the mentallity to try and think how we see and experience it. For many of us there is no other BD player as the PS3 is a no brainer. Complete opposite. It all depends on view and opinion. Some have said they don't want it because of the way it looks and yet at the same time they admit they won't ever see it anyway as it would be hidden. Oh and within reason, almost no stand alone can or will be able to do what the PS3 can.

[Canuck21]

Originally Posted by jp_tech

If it performs good then I don't care how ugly it is. Besides, I have an entertainment center where I could easily hide it. I would much rather have a good standalone player but if the PS3 is the best then I will get that.

Everyone is in a different situation. I don't have an entertainment centre where I could hide the machine, everything is in the open. I also don't have a family or play room, everything is in the living room. So although I don't live in a nice house, I want thngs to look as minimalist as possible and the PS3 looks like a prop from an sci-fi action blockbuster.

[Canuck21]

Originally Posted by theforce8686

Why don't you put a big black metal case around it? I dont understand the dillema. Mine sits in my stand on its side just like my cable box, receiver, and hd dvd player. It is the same color and is actually smaller then the other 3 but they all are different sizes. Just because it is "techinically" a game machine doesnt mean anything to me.

Yes, to you. To me, it looks darn ugly and I don't want to do anything extra to hide it. I don't understand why PS3 lovers insist so much that others adopt the machine? Leave Me Alone.

Originally Posted by Hughmc

Because you don't own one, therefore you don't really know how good they are and you come across as many do as seemingly being stubborn. Like you said you don't care how good it is, so even if it was the only player and or best player you wouldn't get one just out of sheer stubborness. Reverse the mentallity to try and think how we see and experience it. For many of us there is no other BD player as the PS3 is a no brainer. Complete opposite. It all depends on view and opinion. Some have said they don't want it because of the way it looks and yet at the same time they admit they won't ever see it anyway as it would be hidden. Oh and within reason, almost no stand alone can or will be able to do what the PS3 can.

I will wait for that perfect BD player for me.

[Hughmc]

Originally Posted by Canuck21

Yes, to you. To me, it looks darn ugly and I don't want to do anything extra to hide it. I don't understand why PS3 lovers insist so much that others adopt the machine? Leave Me Alone.


I will wait for that perfect BD player for me.

I like the link. One of my fav 80's bands.

[1080please]

Originally Posted by Hughmc

Because you don't own one, therefore you don't really know how good they are and you come across as many do as seemingly being stubborn. Like you said you don't care how good it is, so even if it was the only player and or best player you wouldn't get one just out of sheer stubborness. Reverse the mentallity to try and think how we see and experience it. For many of us there is no other BD player as the PS3 is a no brainer. Complete opposite. It all depends on view and opinion. Some have said they don't want it because of the way it looks and yet at the same time they admit they won't ever see it anyway as it would be hidden. Oh and within reason, almost no stand alone can or will be able to do what the PS3 can.

maybe it's me only but some sound like pod people or religious followers trying their hardest to make you believe.
Like that oping scene from "Airplane" when Robert Hays is trying to pass the hari christners
You say im subborn? you guys are because, a lot of us don't want that amazing machine

[1080please]

Originally Posted by theforce8686

Why don't you put a big black metal case around it? I dont understand the dillema. Mine sits in my stand on its side just like my cable box, receiver, and hd dvd player. It is the same color and is actually smaller then the other 3 but they all are different sizes. Just because it is "techinically" a game machine doesnt mean anything to me.

Huh? a black metal case around it?
glad it worked for you, but I rather not bother

It's a game machine, remote sold separately

[jp_tech]

Originally Posted by 1080please

maybe it's me only but some sound like pod people or religious followers trying their hardest to make you believe.
You say im subborn? you guys are because, a lot of us don't want that amazing machine

Not sure if you meant me but I was just saying that if I were to get a BR player then I would want the best and if the PS3 is the best then that is what I would get. Of course, I am not a big gamer and would much rather have a standalone player in my home theater.

Don't get me wrong, I am a big HD-DVD fan. I own the A20 and a bunch HDM. I also don't have anything BR yet but I was planning on getting a PS3 even before the Warner decision. I am still kinda hoping HD-DVD will win out then I won't really need the PS3.

[MauneyM]

Originally Posted by Hughmc

Because you don't own one, therefore you don't really know how good they are and you come across as many do as seemingly being stubborn. Like you said you don't care how good it is, so even if it was the only player and or best player you wouldn't get one just out of sheer stubborness. Reverse the mentallity to try and think how we see and experience it. For many of us there is no other BD player as the PS3 is a no brainer. Complete opposite. It all depends on view and opinion. Some have said they don't want it because of the way it looks and yet at the same time they admit they won't ever see it anyway as it would be hidden. Oh and within reason, almost no stand alone can or will be able to do what the PS3 can.

I think somebody misunderstood what I said. I never said that the PS3 wasn't a perfectly good BD player, nor did I say that I don't like the way it looks. What I said was: I WILL NOT allow any game console to be connected to my HT. I have 4 kids, and I have worked very hard to impress upon them that we will NOT burn up hours on my projector bulb for games. Thus, I will NOT - UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES - connect a game machine to my projector.
Period.

It doesn't matter if it's a 360 with a HD DVD drive, a PS3 as a BD player, or any other game system with video playing capabilities; it is NOT going into my HT rack. [FWIW, I bought a separate screen for gaming in the kids' playroom, but it's not big enough to effectively watch movies, nor does it have much of an audio system attached.]


If the PS3 happens to be the best BD player available, then tough. I will do without BD until they release out a product that meets my needs at a reasonable price.

[MauneyM]

Originally Posted by btp

I really cringe when I see people so stubborn and emotional that they deny themselves access to (arguably) the best and fastest BD player on the market and all the movies not available on HD DVD. I wasn't crazy about buying a "game system" either but I got over it real fast. Didn't take long to realize the PS3 is a very powerful piece of hardware and works very well as a BD/DVD player.

See above. It's not about BD, nor is it about the performance of the PS3 as a video player; it's about the fact that in MY household, a game console WILL NOT be connected to my projector. No way, no how. It's not stubborn/emotional, it's based on the needs of my family.

I think your response was extremely condescending and presumptuous.

[iamitman]

Call me crazy but i think PS3 looks great.. And my Onkyo 605 is Ugly.. But that's my take on it...

[btp]

Originally Posted by MauneyM

See above. It's not about BD, nor is it about the performance of the PS3 as a video player; it's about the fact that in MY household, a game console WILL NOT be connected to my projector. No way, no how. It's not stubborn/emotional, it's based on the needs of my family.

I think your response was extremely condescending and presumptuous.

I'm sorry if you were offended. You didn't mention anything about having kids and not wanting them to get access to a gaming system, so I had no idea. Countless times I've seen people say they won't buy a PS3 merely because it happens to be a game system, and by all appearances you were saying just that. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding.

[Jiffylush]

Originally Posted by btp

I'm sorry if you were offended. You didn't mention anything about having kids and not wanting them to get access to a gaming system, so I had no idea. Countless times I've seen people say they won't buy a PS3 merely because it happens to be a game system, and by all appearances you were saying just that. Again, sorry for the misunderstanding.

Maybe that should be a valid complaint added to my list about the PS3.

#4 will cause your HT Setup usage to drastically increase with HDM usage, music and video streaming, and gaming.

[btp]

Originally Posted by 1080please

It's a game system! I don't want one, I don't care how great it plays it's movie discs. Why do i feel sometimes when I read comments by few that love Blu-Ray and own a PS3 they need to sell me one?

I'm not trying to sell anybody on anything. Just sharing my personal experience and observation. What I "love" is movies in high definition, not Blu Ray or HD DVD as formats. It just so happens I have more HD DVDs than BDs and I am very happy with my Toshiba HD-XA2.

[Hughmc]

Originally Posted by MauneyM

I think somebody misunderstood what I said. I never said that the PS3 wasn't a perfectly good BD player, nor did I say that I don't like the way it looks. What I said was: I WILL NOT allow any game console to be connected to my HT. I have 4 kids, and I have worked very hard to impress upon them that we will NOT burn up hours on my projector bulb for games. Thus, I will NOT - UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES - connect a game machine to my projector.
Period.

It doesn't matter if it's a 360 with a HD DVD drive, a PS3 as a BD player, or any other game system with video playing capabilities; it is NOT going into my HT rack. [FWIW, I bought a separate screen for gaming in the kids' playroom, but it's not big enough to effectively watch movies, nor does it have much of an audio system attached.]


If the PS3 happens to be the best BD player available, then tough. I will do without BD until they release out a product that meets my needs at a reasonable price.

How about simply not having the kids use the PS3?

[Hughmc]

Originally Posted by iamitman

Call me crazy but i think PS3 looks great.. And my Onkyo 605 is Ugly.. But that's my take on it...

Truth in opinion. At least they got away from the typical rectangular box and were really thinking nex gen. It is different and even myself at times I tend to be a bit conservative.

[enormus]

Any Blu-ray player that goes into my sytem has to be a standalone unit with infrared control (universal remote compatible), will have to support all profiles and bitstream both Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD MA in all their 7.1 glory. It will also need to upscale SD DVD better than than the PS3 (preferably via the Reon or Realta chip). Preferably, I'd like all this in a dual format (BD/HD) player with DVD-A/SACD support (Oppo, are ya listenin'?). I'd expect to pay more than $300 for the universal capabilities, obviously . . .

[TheDaywalker]

Originally Posted by Hughmc

How about simply not having the kids use the PS3?

Thats what i was thinking...

[Reginald Trent]

I would never buy a game console as the main player for my Home Theater's HD movies, unless it was damn near free.

[btp]

Originally Posted by Reginald Trent

I would never buy a game console as the main player for my Home Theater's HD movies, unless it was damn near free.

Do you have kids too?!

I didn't want a game system either, but I did want to be able to get movies in HD that are only available on BD. The PS3 is perhaps the fastest and most upgradable/future-proof BD player there is (at any price). So I just had to put aside my reservations and try it out for myself.

[SuperGrafx]

Originally Posted by seggers

So, what are you going to do when HD DVD goes the way of the dodo and you can't get anymore HiDef films?

Sony won this time. Time to accept, grow up and move on.

And yes, I have several Sony pieces in my HT makeup, and they all get good reviews from people that come in to watch films/tv on/through them.

Seggers

I'll just continue to buy standard def DVD's and download HD content from Xbox Live or whatever. Other options exist.

[K.L.]

Originally Posted by enormus

It will also need to upscale SD DVD better than than the PS3 (preferably via the Reon or Realta chip).

These fixed-function chips can't become as versatile as what Cell processor in PS3 can be toward DVD input. Just see what Toshiba demonstrated with it at the CES.
http://www.audioholics.com/education...ideo-processor