"Official" PowerDVD Ultra 8 thread

AbMagFab · 04-03-08, 08:02 PM

This thread is dedicated to the new version of PDVD Ultra

Works:
- All my BD ISO's all work, no stuttering on my G35 at all (MPEG2, MPEG4-AVC, VC1)
- All HD MPEG-2's (e.g. from Tivo S3/HD TTG) all work great
- HD Picture quality seems slightly improved actually, a little more detail/depth, and the color seems slightly better
- SD Picture quality seems significantly improved - SD DVD's look a lot better
- AVC-HD (e.g. from Sony HD video camera) works great

Not working:
- HDMI audio is a bit of a joke, no different than before if you want multi-channel HD audio (still sends 5.1 channels for 2.0 channel sources with 3 or 4 blank channels, for example)
- Crashes if you set to HDMI and DD/DTS passthrough (no matter SD or HD source)

Basically, PDVD8 is like the production version of PDVD 7 beta. Everything works like it should have with PDVD 7. Nothing particularly new, but nothing seems broken either.

(My configuration - HA off, Weave, HDMI Audio/PCM, Best picture quality, everything else default. C2D 2.66, 2GB, G35 at 1080/60p.)

Specific BD disks that seem not to work:
- Across the Universe

FAQ
- PDVD 8 only supports BluRay, no HD-DVD
- PDVD 8 peacefully co-exists with PDVD 7, including the 3319a/3370 toggle
- Doesn't support HDD playback using directory trees (only ISO mounting using DaemonTools)
- DTS-MA/HD support included now

FACP · 04-03-08, 08:07 PM

Is this a free update? If not, then Cyberlink should give me a free upgrade path to 8 since I purchased 7 just 3 days ago.

Davinleeds · 04-03-08, 08:16 PM

What is the status of HD DVD disk playback? in this version.
Playback of HD DVD via ISO'S ?
Is 8 for BD only?

Peter Nagy · 04-03-08, 08:24 PM

Anyone noticed whether CPU usage has increased, decreased or no change with version 8 over 7?

Peter

AbMagFab · 04-03-08, 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter Nagy

Anyone noticed whether CPU usage has increased, decreased or no change with version 8 over 7?

Peter

I've turned off HA (which barely works with the G35 anyway), and CPU usage is reasonable (~60%) with HD audio tracks. So it seems improved.

AbMagFab · 04-03-08, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Davinleeds

What is the status of HD DVD disk playback? in this version.
Playback of HD DVD via ISO'S ?
Is 8 for BD only?

BD only

dhy8386 · 04-03-08, 08:55 PM

All my BDs work as well except Across the Universe. Menus dont work and it will not play.

UFGrayMatter · 04-03-08, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbMagFab

BD only

The most expensive version is slated to have HDDVD playback

AbMagFab · 04-03-08, 09:46 PM

Edited first post:

- SD DVD picture quality is significantly improved, on par with other players
- AVC-HD works great (set to Weave)

- HDMI + DD/DTS pass through always crashes it instantly (HD, SD, anything)

vladd · 04-03-08, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UFGrayMatter

The most expensive version is slated to have HDDVD playback

No mention of it in the version comparison. http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/produ...are_1_ENU.html

Do you have a link to something that says otherwise?

AbMagFab · 04-03-08, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vladd

No mention of it in the version comparison. http://www.cyberlink.com/multi/produ...are_1_ENU.html

Do you have a link to something that says otherwise?

There was some post somewhere that said they were going to have an add-on later this year with HD DVD, and I think they implication was also adding DTS-HD.

vladd · 04-03-08, 10:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbMagFab

There was some post somewhere that said they were going to have an add-on later this year with HD DVD, and I think they implication was also adding DTS-HD.

DTS-HD is listed as supported in the chart I linked. I won't hold my breath for the add-on.

XxDeadlyxX · 04-03-08, 10:51 PM

Well I figured out why my BDs werent working... when I have D3DOverrider set to 'Force Triple Buffering' in DX9, PDVD8 doesnt like it and gave Internal Error when trying to play any BDs, so when it's disabled BDs work fine.

And yes, it decodes the full DTS-HD Master Audio in 7.1 channels. Well done Cyberlink

Even when I have PDVD set to 6 channels (I'm only 5.1), in Information it still says DTS-HD MA 7.1 on New Line discs

I'm so glad Cyberlink sorted out the activation stuff, they even replied to my inquiry after it was fixed saying they had rectified their servers.

Can't find anything to fault sofar, looks like my $100 was well spent

gorthocar · 04-03-08, 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FACP

Is this a free update? If not, then Cyberlink should give me a free upgrade path to 8 since I purchased 7 just 3 days ago.

A couple of years ago, I bought PDVD 6.0 a couple of weeks before PDVD 7.0 was released and they gave me a free upgrade to 7.0. YMMV.

I'm still waiting on HDMI soundcards other than the G35 motherboard... I'm wanting to consolidate everything into my HTPC, but I'm still using a standalone BD player for the lossless audio movies.

Andy o · 04-03-08, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UFGrayMatter

The most expensive version is slated to have HDDVD playback

This rumor got started by a very bad article about PowerDVD 8 that contradicted itself. It is not reliable at all, and it even contradicted a screenshot of features that they themselves published in the same article. I wouldn't have any trust in that statement. Why on earth would they bring HD-DVD LATER ON (as they said)? The person who wrote that article said they've used PowerDVD "for years" or something... it didn't seem like it. It was poorly written and factually VERY inaccurate.

kdssrugby · 04-04-08, 12:20 AM

Hi, I was wondering if there was any other Canucks who had bought this yet. When I go to the checkout and select Canadian $'s,it says its $67 CAD, but if you do a currency conversion it should less than $61 CAD? I was wondering what it appears as on a credit card. Thnx

Emissary · 04-04-08, 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dhy8386

All my BDs work as well except Across the Universe. Menus dont work and it will not play.

I wonder what version number we'll get up to before they FINALLY fix the Across the Universe problem

gtg465x · 04-04-08, 01:23 AM

Does anyone know if you can play Blu-Rays or HD-DVDs with the trial version?

vladd · 04-04-08, 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtg465x

Does anyone know if you can play Blu-Rays or HD-DVDs with the trial version?

No on both for the trial. The registered full version will only play BluRay. No HD DVD support.

720p · 04-04-08, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gtg465x

Does anyone know if you can play Blu-Rays or HD-DVDs with the trial version?

You can't play Blu-Ray disks with the trial version, you need the Ultra upgrade/retail version.
HD DVD not supported in any version of PDVD8, use latest PDVD 7.3 for that.

EDIT: too slow

gtg465x · 04-04-08, 01:44 AM

Well that sucks. Looks like it would be a downgrade from 7.3.3730 Ultra if it can't even play HD-DVDs. I'm actually really happy with my current version, but the OP saying that SD quality is greatly improved (and possibly HD) got me interested.

The new Remix feature looks useless. The Collect and Connect features look alright, but they don't exactly get me excited. I'm guessing all of these features add significant bloat.

Can anyone confirm that there are decent resizing features for Blu-Ray? I would like to zoom in some on 2.35:1 Blu-Ray/HD-DVD movies, but 7.3 doesn't allow it.

Cap.T · 04-04-08, 01:46 AM

What version are you guys buying? Are you paying the full 99.99$ for the Ultra-Version or are you buying the Upgrade from Ultra 7 which costs 59.99$. I would go for the upgrade but only if I could keep working with PowerDVD 7 Ultra as well. I've still got a lot of HD DVDs.

gtg465x · 04-04-08, 01:50 AM

I wonder if having version 7 and 8 installed simultaneously causes any codec conflicts.

vladd · 04-04-08, 02:11 AM

I planned to run some tests this weekend to see if the version 8 codecs can be used in 7.3. If I do get the time to try it, I'll post my results.

Favelle · 04-04-08, 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbMagFab

This thread is dedicated to the new version of PDVD Ultra

Works:
- All my BD ISO's all work, no stuttering on my G35 at all (MPEG2, MPEG4-AVC, VC1)
- All HD MPEG-2's (e.g. from Tivo S3/HD TTG) all work great
- HD Picture quality seems slightly improved actually, a little more detail/depth, and the color seems slightly better
- SD Picture quality seems significantly improved - SD DVD's look a lot better
- AVC-HD (e.g. from Sony HD video camera) works great

Not working:
- HDMI audio is a bit of a joke, no different than before if you want multi-channel HD audio (still sends 5.1 channels for 2.0 channel sources with 3 or 4 blank channels, for example)
- Crashes if you set to HDMI and DD/DTS passthrough (no matter SD or HD source)

Basically, PDVD8 is like the production version of PDVD 7 beta. Everything works like it should have with PDVD 7. Nothing particularly new, but nothing seems broken either.

(My configuration - HA off, Weave, HDMI Audio/PCM, Best picture quality, everything else default. C2D 2.66, 2GB, G35 at 1080/60p.)

Specific BD disks that seem not to work:
- Across the Universe

So no hard-drive playback I presume???

David Scott · 04-04-08, 04:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Favelle

So no hard-drice playback I presume???

When you said plays blu-ray iso's does this mean you can play off the hard drive via mounting an iso to a virtual drive?

KeithHurst · 04-04-08, 04:38 AM

As I still want to play my back catalogue HD-DVDs I contacted Cyberlink's support regarding this issue. Here is there reply...

Quote:

Thank you for contacting CyberLink Online Support.

We understand your concern related with PowerDVD software.

PowerDVD 8 can playback any type of disk. Namely CD, DVD, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray disks.

Moreover, you can install PowerDVD 7.3 and PowerDVD 8.0 on the computer at a time.

Hope this helps.
Keith

w1seman · 04-04-08, 04:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbMagFab

This thread is dedicated to the new version of PDVD Ultra

Works:
- All my BD ISO's all work, no stuttering on my G35 at all (MPEG2, MPEG4-AVC, VC1)
- All HD MPEG-2's (e.g. from Tivo S3/HD TTG) all work great
- HD Picture quality seems slightly improved actually, a little more detail/depth, and the color seems slightly better
- SD Picture quality seems significantly improved - SD DVD's look a lot better
- AVC-HD (e.g. from Sony HD video camera) works great

Not working:
- HDMI audio is a bit of a joke, no different than before if you want multi-channel HD audio (still sends 5.1 channels for 2.0 channel sources with 3 or 4 blank channels, for example)
- Crashes if you set to HDMI and DD/DTS passthrough (no matter SD or HD source)

Basically, PDVD8 is like the production version of PDVD 7 beta. Everything works like it should have with PDVD 7. Nothing particularly new, but nothing seems broken either.

(My configuration - HA off, Weave, HDMI Audio/PCM, Best picture quality, everything else default. C2D 2.66, 2GB, G35 at 1080/60p.)

Specific BD disks that seem not to work:
- Across the Universe

But it still downconverts the audio via analog out to 16/48, thats a shame!
The annoying aliasing effect with 8600 GTS is still there too.

CL is one of the worst software companies I have ever seen, shame on these morons.

Rathbone · 04-04-08, 05:08 AM

Can you actually hear an improvement with DTS-HD MA tracks?

w1seman · 04-04-08, 05:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rathbone

Can you actually hear an improvement with DTS-HD MA tracks?

Yes, the sound is remarkable improved with PDVD8. Heard Queen Live (only DTS-HD though) yesterday on PDVD7 and PDVD8 and PDVD8 really sounds a lot better, richer, wider. Just imagine, how it would sound with real 24/96 output!!!
Also heard Eragon with DTS-HD MA track and thats really the first time I was so much impressed by sound from PDVD that i got emotionally touched.

As a side note: I also own Arcsofts TMT with real 24/96 output and it sounds much worse than PDVD8!!!
Maybe 24/96 is not a big difference to what we can already get out of PDVD!?

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AbMagFab AVS Special Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,413	"Official" PowerDVD Ultra 8 thread This thread is dedicated to the new version of PDVD Ultra Works: - All my BD ISO's all work, no stuttering on my G35 at all (MPEG2, MPEG4-AVC, VC1) - All HD MPEG-2's (e.g. from Tivo S3/HD TTG) all work great - HD Picture quality seems slightly improved actually, a little more detail/depth, and the color seems slightly better - SD Picture quality seems significantly improved - SD DVD's look a lot better - AVC-HD (e.g. from Sony HD video camera) works great Not working: - HDMI audio is a bit of a joke, no different than before if you want multi-channel HD audio (still sends 5.1 channels for 2.0 channel sources with 3 or 4 blank channels, for example) - Crashes if you set to HDMI and DD/DTS passthrough (no matter SD or HD source) Basically, PDVD8 is like the production version of PDVD 7 beta. Everything works like it should have with PDVD 7. Nothing particularly new, but nothing seems broken either. (My configuration - HA off, Weave, HDMI Audio/PCM, Best picture quality, everything else default. C2D 2.66, 2GB, G35 at 1080/60p.) Specific BD disks that seem not to work: - Across the Universe FAQ - PDVD 8 only supports BluRay, no HD-DVD - PDVD 8 peacefully co-exists with PDVD 7, including the 3319a/3370 toggle - Doesn't support HDD playback using directory trees (only ISO mounting using DaemonTools) - DTS-MA/HD support included now __________________ HTPC HDMI HD Audio + Video Roundup Thread - Last Update 12/5/2008 - sadly nothing has really changed since then... Easy Popcorn Hour setup trying to achieve XBMC/Xbox usability - Last Update 10/8/2009 Last edited by AbMagFab; 04-04-08 at 09:25 AM..

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AbMagFab AVS Special Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 4,413	Edited first post: - SD DVD picture quality is significantly improved, on par with other players - AVC-HD works great (set to Weave) - HDMI + DD/DTS pass through always crashes it instantly (HD, SD, anything) __________________ HTPC HDMI HD Audio + Video Roundup Thread - Last Update 12/5/2008 - sadly nothing has really changed since then... Easy Popcorn Hour setup trying to achieve XBMC/Xbox usability - Last Update 10/8/2009

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FACP Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Tampa Posts: 364	Is this a free update? If not, then Cyberlink should give me a free upgrade path to 8 since I purchased 7 just 3 days ago.

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Davinleeds Bitstreamer AVS GOLD CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,967	What is the status of HD DVD disk playback? in this version. Playback of HD DVD via ISO'S ? Is 8 for BD only?

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Peter Nagy Advanced Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Reno, NV Posts: 753	Anyone noticed whether CPU usage has increased, decreased or no change with version 8 over 7? Peter

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dhy8386 Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 79	All my BDs work as well except Across the Universe. Menus dont work and it will not play.

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XxDeadlyxX Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 288	Well I figured out why my BDs werent working... when I have D3DOverrider set to 'Force Triple Buffering' in DX9, PDVD8 doesnt like it and gave Internal Error when trying to play any BDs, so when it's disabled BDs work fine. And yes, it decodes the full DTS-HD Master Audio in 7.1 channels. Well done Cyberlink Even when I have PDVD set to 6 channels (I'm only 5.1), in Information it still says DTS-HD MA 7.1 on New Line discs I'm so glad Cyberlink sorted out the activation stuff, they even replied to my inquiry after it was fixed saying they had rectified their servers. Can't find anything to fault sofar, looks like my $100 was well spent

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kdssrugby Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: The Great White North Posts: 499	Hi, I was wondering if there was any other Canucks who had bought this yet. When I go to the checkout and select Canadian $'s,it says its $67 CAD, but if you do a currency conversion it should less than $61 CAD? I was wondering what it appears as on a credit card. Thnx

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gtg465x New Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6	Does anyone know if you can play Blu-Rays or HD-DVDs with the trial version?

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gtg465x New Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6	Well that sucks. Looks like it would be a downgrade from 7.3.3730 Ultra if it can't even play HD-DVDs. I'm actually really happy with my current version, but the OP saying that SD quality is greatly improved (and possibly HD) got me interested. The new Remix feature looks useless. The Collect and Connect features look alright, but they don't exactly get me excited. I'm guessing all of these features add significant bloat. Can anyone confirm that there are decent resizing features for Blu-Ray? I would like to zoom in some on 2.35:1 Blu-Ray/HD-DVD movies, but 7.3 doesn't allow it.

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Cap.T Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 105	What version are you guys buying? Are you paying the full 99.99$ for the Ultra-Version or are you buying the Upgrade from Ultra 7 which costs 59.99$. I would go for the upgrade but only if I could keep working with PowerDVD 7 Ultra as well. I've still got a lot of HD DVDs.

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gtg465x New Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 6	I wonder if having version 7 and 8 installed simultaneously causes any codec conflicts.

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vladd AVS Special Member AVS CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Louisville, KY Posts: 3,090	I planned to run some tests this weekend to see if the version 8 codecs can be used in 7.3. If I do get the time to try it, I'll post my results.

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Rathbone Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Good ol' Germany Posts: 652	Can you actually hear an improvement with DTS-HD MA tracks?