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Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- The Professionals AVC 1:57:29 31,733,366,784 35,480,980,307 36.01 26.06 Dolby TrueHD 5.1 4232Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) A Passage To India AVC 2:43:57 36,402,094,080 47,091,721,168 29.60 22.96 Dolby TrueHD 5.1 2444Kbps (48kHz/16-bit) The Sand Pebbles MPEG-2 3:02:33 33,297,426,432 39,457,412,972 24.32 18.02 DTS-HD Master 5.1 3705Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DD AC3 4.0 320Kbps The Seventh Seal AVC 1:36:13 16,988,663,808 22,550,087,928 23.54 21.99 DD AC3 2.0 224Kbps The Longest Day AVC 2:58:22 39,626,440,704 40,765,784,136 29.62 23.40 DTS-HD Master 5.1 3318Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DD AC3 4.0 448Kbps |
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07-02-08, 01:55 PM
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07-02-08, 02:10 PM
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DTS-HD Master Audio (lossless compression) 24-bit/48kHz Advertised Total Video Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------- ----------------------- --------------------- Point Break AVC 2:02:05 33,988,184,064 41,725,606,312 37.12 29.33 28 DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 4303Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DD AC3 5.1 448Kbps/DD AC3 4.0 448Kbps Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00001.mpls Size: 33,988,184,064 bytes Length: 2:02:05 (h:m:s) Total Bitrate: 37.12 Mbps Description: FILES: Name Size Length Time In Time Out ---- ---- ------ ------- -------- 00001.M2TS 33,988,184,064 2:02:05.693 0:00:00.000 2:02:05.693 VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 29330 kbps 1080p / 23.976fps AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- DTS-HD Master Audio English 4303 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 4303kbps (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 1536kbps) Dolby Digital Audio English 448 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 448kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 448 kbps 4.0 / 48kHz / 448kbps Dolby Digital Audio French 224 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 224kbps Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 224 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 224kbps SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics English 59 kbps Presentation Graphics Chinese 58 kbps Presentation Graphics French 0 kbps Presentation Graphics Korean 36 kbps Presentation Graphics Spanish 34 kbps Presentation Graphics Spanish 0 kbps Code:
Dolby TrueHD (lossless compression) 16-bit/48kHz Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ----------------- --------------------- In the Line of Fire AVC 2:08:36 35,309,082,624 39,525,927,767 36.61 24.95 Dolby TrueHD 5.1 1435Kbps (48kHz/16-bit) Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00001.mpls Size: 35,309,082,624 bytes Length: 2:08:36 (h:m:s) Total Bitrate: 36.61 Mbps Description: FILES: Name Size Length Time In Time Out ---- ---- ------ ------- -------- 00011.M2TS 35,309,082,624 2:08:36.709 0:00:00.000 2:08:36.709 VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 24948 kbps 1080p / 23.976fps AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Dolby TrueHD Audio English 1435 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 1435kbps (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps) Dolby TrueHD Audio French 1507 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 1507kbps (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps) Dolby TrueHD Audio Portuguese 1415 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 1415kbps (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps) Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 640 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics English 25 kbps Presentation Graphics English 25 kbps Presentation Graphics Arabic 14 kbps Presentation Graphics Chinese 24 kbps Presentation Graphics Chinese 31 kbps Presentation Graphics Dutch 24 kbps Presentation Graphics Dutch 44 kbps Presentation Graphics French 25 kbps Presentation Graphics French 44 kbps Presentation Graphics Indonesian 27 kbps Presentation Graphics Korean 19 kbps Presentation Graphics Portuguese 24 kbps Presentation Graphics Portuguese 51 kbps Presentation Graphics Spanish 27 kbps Presentation Graphics Spanish 38 kbps |
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07-02-08, 09:00 PM
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Employee of the Month - DTS-HD High Resolution Audio (lossy compression) 24-bit/48kHz Code:
Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- Employee of the Month AVC 1:48:07 19,310,014,464 24,894,603,764 23.81 18.19 DTS-HD Hi-Res 6.1 3039Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DD AC3 5.1-EX 640Kbps Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00001.mpls Size: 19,310,014,464 bytes Length: 1:48:07 (h:m:s) Total Bitrate: 23.81 Mbps Description: FILES: Name Size Length Time In Time Out ---- ---- ------ ------- -------- 00001.M2TS 19,310,014,464 1:48:07.481 0:00:00.000 1:48:07.481 VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 18187 kbps 1080p / 23.976fps AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- DTS-HD Audio English 3039 kbps 6.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 3039kbps (DTS-ES Core: 5.1-ES / 48kHz / 24-bit / 1536kbps) Dolby Digital EX Audio English 640 kbps 5.1-EX / 48kHz / 640kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics English 40 kbps Presentation Graphics Spanish 38 kbps |
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07-03-08, 02:41 AM
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How do you calculate the audio bit rate ? Do you scan the entire disc for every audio track or you spawn multiple threads to do the scanning concurrently ? Please educate. Buddies with BD Drives, Could you please scan The Descent Blu-ray and check if the Rated & Unrated Versions are really AVC encoded ? It would be great if you can perform the scan using PowerDVD, DGAVCIndex and BDInfo. Some interesting discussion is going on here. Check from post #15. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...3#post14205123
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07-03-08, 03:39 PM
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Dolby TrueHD (lossless compression) 24-bit/96kHz Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ----------------- --------------------- John Mayer: Where the Light Is VC-1 2:32:38 46,356,916,224 48,283,404,188 40.49 24.77 Dolby TrueHD 5.1 7490Kbps (96kHz/24-bit) LPCM 2.0 4608Kbps (96kHz/24-bit) Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00001.mpls Size: 46,356,916,224 bytes Length: 2:32:38 (h:m:s) Total Bitrate: 40.49 Mbps Description: FILES: Name Size Length Time In Time Out ---- ---- ------ ------- -------- 00012.M2TS 25,366,265,856 1:23:07.816 0:00:00.000 1:23:07.816 00013.M2TS 20,990,650,368 1:09:30.749 1:23:07.816 2:32:38.566 VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- VC-1 Video 24771 kbps 1080p / 23.976fps AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Dolby TrueHD Audio English 7490 kbps 5.1 / 96kHz / 24-bit / 7263kbps (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps) LPCM Audio English 4608 kbps 2.0 / 96kHz / 24-bit / 4608kbps |
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07-03-08, 05:08 PM
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There are three types of files involved in the process: the MPLS "playlist" files, the CLPI "clip info" files and the M2TS "MPEG transport streams" and it's worth talking about their structure first to make the process clearer. Each MPLS file represents a single playable item (a movie, television episode, featurette, trailer, etc.) and serves as a table of contents for that item to the playback device. The MPLS contains a list of M2TS files arranged in playback order along with time stamps specifying the in/out times of each M2TS. There is also an ordered list of chapter markers in the MPLS and each marker is specified as an M2TS index and the time offset within it (so the overall chapter time stamp is determined by calculating the overall start time of the M2TS according the playlist order and then adding the offset of the marker). While many MPLS only reference a single M2TS file, some reference more than one if the item is broken into multiple M2TS files and a given M2TS may be referenced by multiple MPLS. This is how seamless branching and other operation such as "play all episodes" or "play all deleted scenes" are performed: i.e. different playlists specifying different orderings of M2TS files. Each M2TS file also has a corresponding CLPI "clip info" file that serves as a simple table of contents to the streams contained within the M2TS - i.e. video, audio and graphics tracks. Each stream is given a unique four-digit "PID" (packet identifier) and a stream type identifier that indicates the codec of the stream. Depending on the stream type, there is a little bit of additional information supplied that can be used to populate the display/menus of the playback device. Video tracks also have their resolution (1080p, etc.), framerate (23.976, 29.97, etc.) and basic aspect ratio (4:3, 16:9) listed. Audio tracks have their basic channel layout (Mono, Stereo, Multi - kind of useless), sampling rate (48/96/192) and language code (English/Spanish/etc.). Presentation and interactive graphics tracks (i.e. subtitles and non-Java menus) also have a language code. All of this information is also redundantly stored in the MPLS files, but it can be a little more convenient to read it from the CLPI files. The M2TS files themselves are the real meat and potatoes of things and contain all the video, audio and graphics data. Structurally, the M2TS is laid out as a sequence of 192 byte packets (chunks of data). Each packet has a 4-byte synchronization header (an addition over the old-style .TS file) followed by the normal 188-byte MPEG transport stream packet data (for more information, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MPEG_transport_stream). The important point is that each data packet is assigned to a specific stream through the packet identifier (PID) and there are a number of flags indicating what should be done with the data inside the packet. For BDInfo, there are a few critical pieces of information. Video and audio streams have a codec-independent generic PES (program elementary stream) header that is contained within the packet data. This header is used to increment the presentation/display time stamps for each stream (since they are all potentially running at different rates and the packets from all streams are jumbled together in an interleaved fashion) and also to indicate the number of bytes of actual stream data that is expected to follow, spread across multiple subsequent packets, when a new chunk of data "payload" begins (i.e. a single video frame or a set of audio frame samples). -------- With all that said, here is the sequence of events inside BDInfo: After clicking the Browse button and selecting a disc/folder, BDInfo locates the BDMV folder and recursively calculates the total folder size of BDMV's parent (i.e. one level above BDMV) - this sum is given as the disc size. It looks for the presence of a BDSVM (or SLYVM) folder - if found, the disc is marked as BD+. It looks for the BDJO folder and if any .BDJO files are in this folder, then the disc is marked as having BD-Java. This is the highly sophisticated BD+ and BD-Java detection algorithm!  BDInfo then reads in and fully parses all of the MPLS files in the PLAYLIST folder. For each playlist, the list of referenced M2TS files are stored, the playlist M2TS time offsets are used to calculate the playlist length and the file sizes of the constituent M2TS files are added together as the playlist size - these numbers show up as the movie length and size respectively in the final report. For each referenced M2TS, the corresponding CLPI file is then read and parsed to create a master list of streams for the playlist with the PID, stream type/codec, and basic stream attributes stored. The final (and most time-consuming) step in the Browse process is to open and read each unique M2TS referenced by all of the playlists. Packets are read from each M2TS until a codec-specific header is found for each video and audio stream in the M2TS - i.e. processing of the M2TS stops once all the streams have their extra information filled in. Separate routines for AVC, MPEG-2, VC-1, AC3, DTS, TrueHD, DTS-HD and LPCM process this header information to update the stream descriptions with additional information not found in the CLPI such as the exact channel count, bit depth, core AC3/DTS stream info for TrueHD/DTS-HD, and constant bitrate values for AC3/DTS/LPCM. Any discrepancies found for the video stream's resolution and frame rate replace the information from the CLPI. At this point, hopefully only a few seconds have passed and BDInfo is sitting idle with the playlists, files and streams displayed. The fun begins when the scan bitrates button is clicked. A unique list of M2TS is built based on the checked items in the "Select Playlist(s)" box or, if no items are checked, all of the referenced M2TS are added to the list - in either case, each M2TS is only added to the list once so it doesn't get scanned multiple times. The bitrate scanner then opens the M2TS files one at a time and reads the entire file in 16KB chunks. After each chunk is read into memory, it is then processed to break it up into individual packets to increment the packet counts and byte counts for each stream PID. Getting the payload byte count is essentially a process of boiling away the M2TS packet and stream header overhead to get the raw data bytes for each stream. This is done in a codec-independent manner using the PES headers. Also, increments of the presentation/display time stamps for each stream are located and the stream bitrate is recalculated at each time stamp increment (with the final bitrate for the M2TS stream coming from the last increment). For playlists with multiple M2TS, both the running and final bitrates are calculated by dividing the sum total data payload bytes for each stream across all M2TS divided by the total duration of all the M2TS (or in the case of the running bitrate the total duration of all processed M2TS + the PTS location of the M2TS currently being scanned). You can enable the stream diagnostics checkbox and click the View Report button while the scan is running to get an incremental snapshot of the scan progress for each stream. All of this is done in a single-threaded manner one M2TS file at a time, although the file I/O is backed by a double-buffer and there is a separate user interface thread with a timer that fires once a second while scanning to update the incremental bitrate display on the screen. Putting in multiple reader threads might work well for scanning a disc layout on the hard-drive, although I suspect would be disastrous when reading from a BD-ROM drive. Also, some care would have to be taken when dividing up a single M2TS into multiple pieces to make sure the cuts are not only along packet boundaries but also at payload start boundaries. |
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Interesting info there, Cinema Squid, thanks. You may like to know that BDInfo was added to videohelp.com and digital-digest.com today.
I found something today that I hadn't heard of before: BD region codes can apparently have an expiration option if the distributor chooses. Source: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/70162711.html Quote:
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07-04-08, 12:21 AM
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Thanks for the detailed explanation Cinema Whale.
 I will have to read your notes multiple times to get a vague understanding of the disc structure. Can anyone scan The Descent BD to find out if it's MPEG-2 or MPEG-4 encoded ? 
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07-04-08, 12:46 AM
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I hesitate to post this, but piracy can be used for the power of good sometimes.
 No, I didn't download it - in fact I can't - but here's an NFO file stating AVC.Quote:
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07-04-08, 01:01 AM
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Not trying to be rude, but this info doesn't look to be too helpful. h.264 (untouched video) - I'm guessing by this he just means that the video is lossless-ish. Because this thread lists the video size as 20+ gigs. |
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07-04-08, 01:13 AM
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The NFO specifically states that he didn't re-encode, but rather remuxed from M2TS to MKV. "Untouched" means just that; the video portion of the file is just copied off of the disc. The "movie size" you're looking at in the list includes the 6Mbps LPCM track, other audio, etc. If you multiply AVBR by the runtime you get 15.75GB for the Unrated cut's video track. |
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07-04-08, 01:30 AM
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msgohan,
I want you or our buddies with BD Drives to scan through their BD copy of Descent in BDInfo or PowerDVD and check if the Rated and Unrated features are encoded using MPEG-4 and NOT MPEG-2. The copy which I received from amazon day before yesterday is MPEG-2 encoded. Please help.
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07-04-08, 01:57 AM
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Well benes already has it scanned as Rated AVC/Unrated AVC/PiP MPEG-2 using whatever tools he used to use. That CtrlHD pirate also confirms it as AVC. I might be able to rent it, but it seems like scanning your copy would be the best way to see whether there really is an MPEG-2 disc. I'm sure one of us would be happy to scan it if you sent us the disc.
Or I can help you use the PS3 ripper OS I mentioned before. |
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07-04-08, 02:56 AM
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07-04-08, 03:32 AM
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I have The Decent and can 'take a look' at it over the weekend.
BTW there are only two encodes on the disc - the unrated is seamlessly branched into the normal version of the movie.
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07-04-08, 08:27 AM
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Night Watch (Fox Japan release) scan:
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Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- Night Watch (Fox Japan release) AVC 1:54:21 37,754,382,336 43,949,394,764 44.02 32.95 Dolby TrueHD 5.1 3803Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DTS 5.1 768Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00179.mpls Size: 37,754,382,336 bytes Length: 1:54:21 (h:m:s) Total Bitrate: 44.02 Mbps Description: FILES: Name Size Length Time In Time Out ---- ---- ------ ------- -------- 00375.M2TS 37,754,382,336 1:54:21.896 0:00:00.000 1:54:21.896 VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 32950 kbps 1080p / 23.976fps AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Dolby TrueHD Audio Russian 3803 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 3803kbps (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 448kbps) DTS Audio Russian 768 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 768kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 448 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 448kbps Dolby Digital Audio French 448 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 448kbps Dolby Digital Audio German 448 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 448kbps Dolby Digital Audio Japanese 448 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 448kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 224kbps SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics English 24 kbps Presentation Graphics English 27 kbps Presentation Graphics English 0 kbps Presentation Graphics English 48 kbps Presentation Graphics English 37 kbps Presentation Graphics Danish 20 kbps Presentation Graphics Dutch 19 kbps Presentation Graphics Dutch 31 kbps Presentation Graphics Dutch 41 kbps Presentation Graphics Finnish 16 kbps Presentation Graphics French 18 kbps Presentation Graphics French 0 kbps Presentation Graphics French 33 kbps Presentation Graphics French 42 kbps Presentation Graphics German 24 kbps Presentation Graphics German 0 kbps Presentation Graphics German 37 kbps Presentation Graphics German 47 kbps Presentation Graphics Japanese 15 kbps Presentation Graphics Japanese 0 kbps Presentation Graphics Japanese 22 kbps Presentation Graphics Japanese 36 kbps Presentation Graphics Norwegian 18 kbps Presentation Graphics Swedish 19 kbps CHAPTERS: Number Time Name ------ ---- ---- 1 0:00:00.000 Chapter 1 2 0:04:00.073 Chapter 2 3 0:10:54.028 Chapter 3 4 0:15:49.615 Chapter 4 5 0:19:26.790 Chapter 5 6 0:24:12.868 Chapter 6 7 0:28:15.110 Chapter 7 8 0:33:08.861 Chapter 8 9 0:38:08.160 Chapter 9 10 0:40:01.065 Chapter 10 11 0:43:40.951 Chapter 11 12 0:50:44.458 Chapter 12 13 0:58:33.051 Chapter 13 14 1:04:30.491 Chapter 14 15 1:09:26.996 Chapter 15 16 1:13:34.952 Chapter 16 17 1:24:06.249 Chapter 17 18 1:33:18.259 Chapter 18 19 1:37:39.562 Chapter 19 20 1:47:40.787 Chapter 20 21 1:54:21.646 Chapter 21 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Seconds Bytes Packets Bitrate ---- --- ---- ------- ----- ------- ------- 00375.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B 6861.90 28,262,159,014 153,695,821 32949.68 00375.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x83 6861.90 3,646,622,502 26,108,172 4251.45 00375.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x82 6861.90 658,742,272 3,859,818 768.00 00375.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x81 6861.90 384,267,520 2,144,350 448.00 00375.M2TS 4355 (0x1103) 0x81 6861.90 384,267,520 2,144,350 448.00 00375.M2TS 4356 (0x1104) 0x81 6861.90 384,267,520 2,144,350 448.00 00375.M2TS 4357 (0x1105) 0x81 6861.90 384,267,520 2,144,350 448.00 00375.M2TS 4358 (0x1106) 0x81 6861.90 192,133,760 1,072,175 224.00 00375.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 6861.90 20,375,112 117,659 23.75 00375.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 6861.90 22,739,566 131,099 26.51 00375.M2TS 4610 (0x1202) 0x90 6861.90 36,626 218 0.04 00375.M2TS 4611 (0x1203) 0x90 6861.90 12,557,996 74,927 14.64 00375.M2TS 4612 (0x1204) 0x90 6861.90 80,439 484 0.09 00375.M2TS 4613 (0x1205) 0x90 6861.90 20,313,584 117,093 23.68 00375.M2TS 4614 (0x1206) 0x90 6861.90 112,938 663 0.13 00375.M2TS 4615 (0x1207) 0x90 6861.90 15,866,153 92,927 18.50 00375.M2TS 4616 (0x1208) 0x90 6861.90 56,951 351 0.07 00375.M2TS 4617 (0x1209) 0x90 6861.90 16,456,856 94,523 19.19 00375.M2TS 4618 (0x120A) 0x90 6861.90 13,791,287 80,711 16.08 00375.M2TS 4619 (0x120B) 0x90 6861.90 17,288,553 99,826 20.16 00375.M2TS 4620 (0x120C) 0x90 6861.90 15,981,898 92,477 18.63 00375.M2TS 4621 (0x120D) 0x90 6861.90 15,315,154 89,755 17.86 00375.M2TS 4622 (0x120E) 0x90 6861.90 31,440,656 180,064 36.66 00375.M2TS 4623 (0x120F) 0x90 6861.90 41,351,571 234,068 48.21 00375.M2TS 4624 (0x1210) 0x90 6861.90 19,273,160 110,712 22.47 00375.M2TS 4625 (0x1211) 0x90 6861.90 31,037,968 177,311 36.19 00375.M2TS 4626 (0x1212) 0x90 6861.90 32,030,687 183,069 37.34 00375.M2TS 4627 (0x1213) 0x90 6861.90 39,896,227 226,145 46.51 00375.M2TS 4628 (0x1214) 0x90 6861.90 28,039,898 161,112 32.69 00375.M2TS 4629 (0x1215) 0x90 6861.90 36,113,285 205,457 42.10 00375.M2TS 4630 (0x1216) 0x90 6861.90 26,826,530 153,432 31.28 00375.M2TS 4631 (0x1217) 0x90 6861.90 35,214,190 200,298 41.05 Some more info about this and Japanese Day Watch release in: http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=59843 |
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Day Watch (Fox Japan release) scan:
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Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- Day Watch (Fox Japan release) AVC 2:25:48 44,533,014,528 46,537,441,336 40.72 29.47 Dolby TrueHD 5.1 3617Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) DTS 5.1 768Kbps (48kHz/24-bit) Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00016.mpls Size: 44,533,014,528 bytes Length: 2:25:48 (h:m:s) Total Bitrate: 40.72 Mbps Description: FILES: Name Size Length Time In Time Out ---- ---- ------ ------- -------- 00012.M2TS 44,533,014,528 2:25:48.531 0:00:00.000 2:25:48.531 VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 29470 kbps 1080p / 23.976fps AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Dolby TrueHD Audio Russian 3617 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 3617kbps (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps) DTS Audio English 768 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 768kbps DTS Audio French 768 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 768kbps DTS Audio German 768 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 768kbps DTS Audio Russian 768 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 24-bit / 768kbps Dolby Digital Audio Japanese 448 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 448kbps SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics English 22 kbps Presentation Graphics English 27 kbps Presentation Graphics English 0 kbps Presentation Graphics Danish 20 kbps Presentation Graphics Dutch 20 kbps Presentation Graphics Finnish 22 kbps Presentation Graphics French 19 kbps Presentation Graphics French 0 kbps Presentation Graphics German 26 kbps Presentation Graphics German 0 kbps Presentation Graphics Japanese 13 kbps Presentation Graphics Japanese 0 kbps Presentation Graphics Norwegian 22 kbps Presentation Graphics Swedish 21 kbps CHAPTERS: Number Time Name ------ ---- ---- 1 0:00:00.000 Chapter 1 2 0:05:48.139 Chapter 2 3 0:08:30.218 Chapter 3 4 0:12:35.838 Chapter 4 5 0:17:00.352 Chapter 5 6 0:20:30.270 Chapter 6 7 0:23:24.319 Chapter 7 8 0:26:59.200 Chapter 8 9 0:32:45.797 Chapter 9 10 0:35:15.530 Chapter 10 11 0:38:31.976 Chapter 11 12 0:40:52.450 Chapter 12 13 0:45:38.068 Chapter 13 14 0:49:48.777 Chapter 14 15 0:54:10.622 Chapter 15 16 0:57:15.849 Chapter 16 17 1:00:01.556 Chapter 17 18 1:01:27.141 Chapter 18 19 1:05:13.576 Chapter 19 20 1:06:54.260 Chapter 20 21 1:08:56.715 Chapter 21 22 1:13:09.551 Chapter 22 23 1:16:12.025 Chapter 23 24 1:20:04.591 Chapter 24 25 1:22:50.173 Chapter 25 26 1:28:49.824 Chapter 26 27 1:30:42.770 Chapter 27 28 1:34:49.475 Chapter 28 29 1:39:45.813 Chapter 29 30 1:45:16.476 Chapter 30 31 1:46:56.326 Chapter 31 32 1:50:32.834 Chapter 32 33 1:52:12.934 Chapter 33 34 1:54:37.120 Chapter 34 35 1:57:41.804 Chapter 35 36 2:01:07.009 Chapter 36 37 2:08:46.969 Chapter 37 38 2:10:28.862 Chapter 38 39 2:13:10.065 Chapter 39 40 2:17:02.130 Chapter 40 41 2:25:48.281 Chapter 41 STREAM DIAGNOSTICS: File PID Type Seconds Bytes Packets Bitrate ---- --- ---- ------- ----- ------- ------- 00012.M2TS 4113 (0x1011) 0x1B 8748.53 32,227,637,156 175,274,521 29470.21 00012.M2TS 4352 (0x1100) 0x83 8748.53 4,654,941,482 32,270,629 4256.66 00012.M2TS 4353 (0x1101) 0x82 8748.53 839,859,200 4,921,050 768.00 00012.M2TS 4354 (0x1102) 0x81 8748.53 489,918,464 2,733,920 448.00 00012.M2TS 4355 (0x1103) 0x82 8748.53 839,859,200 4,921,050 768.00 00012.M2TS 4356 (0x1104) 0x82 8748.53 839,859,200 4,921,050 768.00 00012.M2TS 4357 (0x1105) 0x82 8748.53 839,859,200 4,921,050 768.00 00012.M2TS 4608 (0x1200) 0x90 8748.53 24,136,542 139,456 22.07 00012.M2TS 4609 (0x1201) 0x90 8748.53 29,017,740 167,780 26.53 00012.M2TS 4610 (0x1202) 0x90 8748.53 376,530 2,253 0.34 00012.M2TS 4611 (0x1203) 0x90 8748.53 14,470,200 87,062 13.23 00012.M2TS 4612 (0x1204) 0x90 8748.53 398,985 2,344 0.36 00012.M2TS 4613 (0x1205) 0x90 8748.53 27,951,528 160,261 25.56 00012.M2TS 4614 (0x1206) 0x90 8748.53 389,761 2,319 0.36 00012.M2TS 4615 (0x1207) 0x90 8748.53 20,593,033 120,069 18.83 00012.M2TS 4616 (0x1208) 0x90 8748.53 386,449 2,305 0.35 00012.M2TS 4617 (0x1209) 0x90 8748.53 21,341,687 123,655 19.52 00012.M2TS 4618 (0x120A) 0x90 8748.53 21,721,588 126,211 19.86 00012.M2TS 4619 (0x120B) 0x90 8748.53 24,597,225 141,358 22.49 00012.M2TS 4620 (0x120C) 0x90 8748.53 23,573,155 136,340 21.56 00012.M2TS 4621 (0x120D) 0x90 8748.53 22,648,897 131,092 20.71 |
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07-04-08, 10:50 AM
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Wow Kannisto, glad to see you are going to contribute to this thread. I bet you have alot of discs that we don't have since we are primarily in the USA.
Back to the topic, I wonder why Fox is switching to TrueHD?? Right after we get the update to decode it in our PS3's... |
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07-04-08, 01:01 PM
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August Rush - Dolby TrueHD (lossless compression) 16-bit/48kHz
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Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- August Rush VC-1 1:53:37 20,365,344,768 20,891,356,894 23.90 18.16 Dolby TrueHD 5.1 1611Kbps (48kHz/16-bit) Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00000.mpls Size: 20,365,344,768 bytes Length: 1:53:37 (h:m:s) Total Bitrate: 23.90 Mbps Description: FILES: Name Size Length Time In Time Out ---- ---- ------ ------- -------- 00000.M2TS 20,365,344,768 1:53:37.519 0:00:00.000 1:53:37.519 VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- VC-1 Video 18155 kbps 1080p / 23.976fps AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Dolby TrueHD Audio English 1611 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 1611kbps (AC3 Core: 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps) Dolby Digital Audio French 640 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps Dolby Digital Audio Spanish 640 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics English 20 kbps Presentation Graphics English 29 kbps Presentation Graphics French 18 kbps Presentation Graphics Spanish 20 kbps |
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07-04-08, 01:03 PM
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Flatliners - LPCM (uncompressed) 16-bit/48kHz
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Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- Flatliners MPEG-2 1:54:12 23,380,494,336 24,166,104,276 27.29 19.45 LPCM 5.1 4608Kbps (48kHz/16-bit) DD AC3 5.1 640Kbps Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00000.mpls Size: 23,380,494,336 bytes Length: 1:54:12 (h:m:s) Total Bitrate: 27.29 Mbps Description: FILES: Name Size Length Time In Time Out ---- ---- ------ ------- -------- 00000.M2TS 23,380,494,336 1:54:12.846 0:00:00.000 1:54:12.846 VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-2 Video 19446 kbps 1080p / 23.976fps AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- LPCM Audio English 4608 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 4608kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 640 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps Dolby Digital Audio French 640 kbps 5.1 / 48kHz / 640kbps SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics English 22 kbps Presentation Graphics English 35 kbps Presentation Graphics English 22 kbps Presentation Graphics English 35 kbps Presentation Graphics Arabic 12 kbps Presentation Graphics Bulgarian 22 kbps Presentation Graphics Croatian 20 kbps Presentation Graphics Czech 19 kbps Presentation Graphics Danish 20 kbps Presentation Graphics Dutch 21 kbps Presentation Graphics Finnish 21 kbps Presentation Graphics French 21 kbps Presentation Graphics Greek 21 kbps Presentation Graphics Hebrew 16 kbps Presentation Graphics Hindi 22 kbps Presentation Graphics Hungarian 20 kbps Presentation Graphics Icelandic 22 kbps Presentation Graphics Korean 17 kbps Presentation Graphics Norwegian 20 kbps Presentation Graphics Polish 21 kbps Presentation Graphics Romanian 22 kbps Presentation Graphics Slovenian 19 kbps Presentation Graphics Swedish 20 kbps Presentation Graphics Turkish 20 kbps |
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07-04-08, 08:40 PM
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I had not been following this thread before yesterday.I do have some Japanese, Korean and Hong Kong BD releases and some European imports and I'm always after the most interesting new ones so I can start to contribute more especially when I get something new and fresh Yeah, I'm actually not so happy that Fox is switching to TrueHD as I enjoy the quality of the DTS core tracks on my optical output based somewhat limited audio setup. |
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07-04-08, 09:06 PM
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Second: those of us in apartments appreciate TrueHD's (& DD's) dynamic range control aka night mode. Clear lossless sound without the neighbors petitioning for your eviction. Third: TrueHD tracks have no pops from pause nor pops that can damage certain setups (despite the DSP firmware fixes, there's thousands of people unaware that there are fixes and are in danger of damage). Fourth: No encoding screwups like on Die Hard 2 or 7.1 issues with numerous New Line discs.
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07-04-08, 11:00 PM
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I would like some evidence that 640kbps DD is better than DTS at over twice the bitrate, especially since DTS maintains lossless where it can at that bitrate. I am not saying it is not true, but I find it hard to believe myself and all I ever seem to see you doing anywhere is bashing DTS... so please provide some evidence to back up your claims. Back to purpose - The Descent is measuring as AVC for the main encode and MPEG2 for the alternate picture in picture version, just as Benes' list indicates. I will post the full reports later. The difference between the main and alternate looks to be minimal since it is a branch for an alternate ending so I will probably not scan that version unless there is specific interest. It is of course also AVC.
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07-04-08, 11:10 PM
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The Descent - LPCM 6.1 (encoded as 7.1) 6144Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
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Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- The Descent AVC 1:39:50 23,020,302,336 48,362,529,368 30.74 21.56 LPCM 7.1 6144Kbps (48kHz/16-bit) DD AC3 5.1-EX 640Kbps Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00002.mpls Size: 23,020,302,336 bytes Length: 1:39:50 (h:m:s) Total Bitrate: 30.74 Mbps Description: FILES: Name Size Length Time In Time Out ---- ---- ------ ------- -------- 00002.M2TS 21,667,233,792 1:33:55.254 0:00:00.000 1:33:55.254 00024.M2TS 1,353,068,544 0:05:55.730 1:33:55.254 1:39:50.984 VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 21559 kbps 1080p / 23.976fps AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- LPCM Audio English 6144 kbps 7.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 6144kbps Dolby Digital EX Audio English 640 kbps 5.1-EX / 48kHz / 640kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics English 18 kbps Presentation Graphics Spanish 17 kbps CHAPTERS: Number Time Name ------ ---- ---- 1 0:00:00.000 Chapter 1 2 0:08:10.031 Chapter 2 3 0:14:22.111 Chapter 3 4 0:21:33.625 Chapter 4 5 0:28:50.270 Chapter 5 6 0:39:38.959 Chapter 6 7 0:45:24.012 Chapter 7 8 0:54:25.011 Chapter 8 9 0:58:23.249 Chapter 9 10 1:05:17.330 Chapter 10 11 1:10:16.086 Chapter 11 12 1:16:57.654 Chapter 12 13 1:20:17.979 Chapter 13 14 1:25:00.970 Chapter 14 15 1:29:05.465 Chapter 15 16 1:31:46.459 Chapter 16 17 1:39:50.734 Chapter 17
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07-04-08, 11:13 PM
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The Descent PiP - DD AC3 2.0 224Kbps
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Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- The Descent PiP MPEG-2 1:39:50 12,668,018,688 48,362,529,368 16.92 15.91 DD AC3 2.0 224Kbps Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00021.mpls Size: 12,668,018,688 bytes Length: 1:39:50 (h:m:s) Total Bitrate: 16.92 Mbps Description: FILES: Name Size Length Time In Time Out ---- ---- ------ ------- -------- 00020.M2TS 12,668,018,688 1:39:50.985 0:00:00.000 1:39:50.985 VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-2 Video 15911 kbps 1080p / 23.976fps AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Dolby Digital Audio English 224 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 224kbps CHAPTERS: Number Time Name ------ ---- ---- 1 0:00:00.000 Chapter 1 2 0:08:10.031 Chapter 2 3 0:14:22.111 Chapter 3 4 0:21:33.625 Chapter 4 5 0:28:50.270 Chapter 5 6 0:39:38.959 Chapter 6 7 0:45:24.012 Chapter 7 8 0:54:25.011 Chapter 8 9 0:58:23.249 Chapter 9 10 1:05:17.330 Chapter 10 11 1:10:16.086 Chapter 11 12 1:16:57.654 Chapter 12 13 1:20:17.979 Chapter 13 14 1:25:00.970 Chapter 14 15 1:29:05.465 Chapter 15 16 1:31:46.459 Chapter 16 17 1:39:50.734 Chapter 17
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07-04-08, 11:16 PM
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The Descent Alternate - LPCM 6.1 (encoded as 7.1) 6144Kbps (48kHz/16-bit)
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Total Video Title Codec Length Movie Size Disc Size Bitrate Bitrate Main Audio Track Secondary Audio Track ----- ------ ------- -------------- -------------- ------- ------- ------------------ --------------------- The Descent Alternate AVC 1:38:35 22,579,138,560 48,362,529,368 30.53 21.36 LPCM 7.1 6144Kbps (48kHz/16-bit) DD AC3 5.1-EX 640Kbps Code:
PLAYLIST REPORT: Name: 00025.mpls Size: 22,579,138,560 bytes Length: 1:38:35 (h:m:s) Total Bitrate: 30.53 Mbps Description: FILES: Name Size Length Time In Time Out ---- ---- ------ ------- -------- 00002.M2TS 21,667,233,792 1:33:55.254 0:00:00.000 1:33:55.254 00025.M2TS 911,904,768 0:04:40.655 1:33:55.254 1:38:35.909 VIDEO: Codec Bitrate Description ----- ------- ----------- MPEG-4 AVC Video 21360 kbps 1080p / 23.976fps AUDIO: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- LPCM Audio English 6144 kbps 7.1 / 48kHz / 16-bit / 6144kbps Dolby Digital EX Audio English 640 kbps 5.1-EX / 48kHz / 640kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps Dolby Digital Audio English 192 kbps 2.0 / 48kHz / 192kbps SUBTITLES: Codec Language Bitrate Description ----- -------- ------- ----------- Presentation Graphics English 18 kbps Presentation Graphics Spanish 18 kbps CHAPTERS: Number Time Name ------ ---- ---- 1 0:00:00.000 Chapter 1 2 0:08:10.031 Chapter 2 3 0:14:22.111 Chapter 3 4 0:21:33.625 Chapter 4 5 0:28:50.270 Chapter 5 6 0:39:38.959 Chapter 6 7 0:45:24.012 Chapter 7 8 0:54:25.011 Chapter 8 9 0:58:23.249 Chapter 9 10 1:05:17.330 Chapter 10 11 1:10:16.086 Chapter 11 12 1:16:57.654 Chapter 12 13 1:20:17.979 Chapter 13 14 1:25:00.970 Chapter 14 15 1:29:05.465 Chapter 15 16 1:31:46.459 Chapter 16 17 1:38:35.659 Chapter 17
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07-04-08, 11:17 PM
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Please provide evidence that it is NOT, on the exact same movies, same mixes, level matched. To put it in video terms: MPEG4 vs MPEG2, I guess MPEG2 is better since it requires a higher bitrate? When are you guys going to get it that DD is more efficient than DTS, there is no roll off of higher frequencies (starting @ 17kHz) for DD @448 like there is for DTS @768. If DTS was TRULY better it would sound BETTER than DD at lower bitrates! As for "bashing": there's a "find more posts by..." option here. You will find VERY little "bashing" by me other than when DTS fanboys come out of the woodwork and spread FUD about DD or TrueHD.
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