The Golden Compass PIX + Reviews

ryoohki · 07-20-08, 11:03 PM

If that's doesn't convey anyone that DNR is bad... i don't know anything that will..

Grubert · 07-21-08, 04:55 AM

Taking the movie that won the Oscar for VFX and blurring said VFX. What a genius idea!

Not.

eric.exe · 07-21-08, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Grubert

Taking the movie that won the Oscar for VFX and blurring said VFX. What a genius idea!

Not.

Well, isn't softening up the video sometimes a technique to make the CGI blend better/less noticeable?

Honey1 · 07-21-08, 07:26 AM

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Originally Posted by eric.exe

Well, isn't softening up the video sometimes a technique to make the CGI blend better/less noticeable?

Yes, it is.

joerod · 07-21-08, 07:41 AM

I wonder when part 2 will hit?

zero_zep · 07-21-08, 08:19 AM

How in the frickin world this beat out transformers is beyond my pitiful understanding apparently.

trailergod · 07-21-08, 08:19 AM

ugh... thats so stupid......
i mean what the point really of doing DNR on a movie thats hardly has any grain anyway... its a new movie !!!

its simply got too soft from DRN.... simply deafeats the point of having 1080p....

FoxyMulder · 07-21-08, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by zero_zep

How in the frickin world this beat out transformers is beyond my pitiful understanding apparently.

Because it's a better movie maybe ( just my opinion but Transformers is wildly overrated )

bferr1 · 07-21-08, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by zero_zep

How in the frickin world this beat out transformers is beyond my pitiful understanding apparently.

Because Hollywood hates anything that has any connection to George Lucas (ILM).

raoul_duke · 07-21-08, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by FoxyMulder

Because it's a better movie maybe ( just my opinion but Transformers is wildly overrated )

Not effects wise, now lets be honest. Dodgy looking blurred polar bears?

Rob Tomlin · 07-21-08, 07:01 PM

I previously posted that The Golden Compass was one of the worst examples (best?) of over use of DNR I have seen in my HT. I still do.

tbonetommygun · 07-21-08, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by raoul_duke

Not effects wise, now lets be honest. Dodgy looking blurred polar bears?

yeah, transformers has probably the best CGI i've ever seen.

David_W · 07-21-08, 10:32 PM

Jeepers, Xylon...

You really opened my eyes about this one. I've had no problem recognizing DNR on just about every other title that has been discussed on this forum. I never saw TGC in the theater, and having only the BD to judge from, I swore up and down that it was purely intentional, stylized shooting and processing. The difference between the trailer and the film is amazing. I'll never again be content with the disc.

I Superman I · 07-22-08, 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tbonetommygun

yeah, transformers has probably the best CGI i've ever seen.

I completly agree. I believe the biggest facotr in The Golden Compass winning for best special effects was because Pirates 3 was also in the running, and sense both Pirates 3 and Transformers were from ILM it split their votes.

This comparison with the trailer is a sad thing, basically just that they couldn't leave it alone. The comparison of the fur on the bare is nigh and day, it's just rediculous.

Xylon · 07-23-08, 07:04 AM

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Originally Posted by David_W

Jeepers, Xylon...

You really opened my eyes about this one. I've had no problem recognizing DNR on just about every other title that has been discussed on this forum. I never saw TGC in the theater, and having only the BD to judge from, I swore up and down that it was purely intentional, stylized shooting and processing. The difference between the trailer and the film is amazing. I'll never again be content with the disc.

Sorry about that

Xylon · 07-23-08, 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by I Superman I

This comparison with the trailer is a sad thing, basically just that they couldn't leave it alone. The comparison of the fur on the bear is night and day, it's just rediculous.

"It's no big deal!!!"

That's what they say.

Rakesh.S · 07-27-08, 06:09 PM

i just watched this earlier today....the movie (story/plot/execution) was not great, but definitely isn't as bad as people made it out to be. They could've tightened it up.

However...this is the first movie where the DNR actually took me out of the movie. In the beginning when Asriel is talking to Lyra and they're walking outside, i saw smearing (first time ever for me in a BR movie)....there were at least 4 or 5 other shots like that too. If you look at xylon's caps of "The Longest Day" you'll know what I'm talking about it. It just looked cartoony.

Has New Line had one decent release yet? I guess this is what we can expect from Blade 1,2,3, Seven, Final Destination, LOTR and all their other films?

People used to bitch about HD-DVD having low bitrates....now that we have high bitrates, what's the point? If everything is going to be DNR'd to hell, it doesn't really matter.

msgohan · 07-27-08, 11:28 PM

Wow, someone else actually looking forward to Final Destination!

Shoot Em Up and Rush Hour 3 were supposedly good.

Dave Mack · 07-27-08, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rakesh.S

People used to bitch about HD-DVD having low bitrates....now that we have high bitrates, what's the point? If everything is going to be DNR'd to hell, it doesn't really matter.

sadly this is true.

Xylon · 07-28-08, 10:17 PM

Like I said before and others bitrates are nice but the transfer also matters. They are dependent to each other.

Xylon · 07-28-08, 10:18 PM

New Line is doing Lord of The Rings right?

cnikirk · 07-29-08, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Xylon

New Line is doing Lord of The Rings right?

Alas, unfortunately

cnikirk · 07-29-08, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Rob Tomlin

I previously posted that The Golden Compass was one of the worst examples (best?) of over use of DNR I have seen in my HT. I still do.

You are right. These screens really tell the story don't they? The doggies look like claymation on the BD pic.

I have seen a lot of screens that show the loss of detail on different films, but these screens are some of the best at showing what a travesty DNR really is.

cnikirk · 07-29-08, 12:24 AM

I also just realized that in the first set of screen shots that the soldiers on the left side of the frame aren't pointing their rifles at the bear

Dave Mack · 07-29-08, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cnikirk

You are right. These screens really tell the story don't they? The doggies look like claymation on the BD pic.

I have seen a lot of screens that show the loss of detail on different films, but these screens are some of the best at showing what a travesty DNR really is.

exactly. and I love how at sites like HTF, we are called "AVS rabble rousers" for actually comparing screenshots!

You know, "You can't tell anything from a screenshot...yada, yada, yada..."

patrick99 · 07-29-08, 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Xylon

New Line is doing Lord of The Rings right?

NL in effect no longer exists. Warner will do it.

loregnum · 07-29-08, 10:32 AM

How anyone could see the movie/trailer comparo and STILL act like DNR is no big deal (which seems to be 90% of this forum now) is beyond me.

Amazing...simply amazing how crappy it looks compared to the trailer and that some will act like it isn't that bad because it is "better than the dvd"

Xylon · 07-30-08, 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by loregnum

How anyone could see the movie/trailer comparo and STILL act like DNR is no big deal (which seems to be 90% of this forum now) is beyond me.

Amazing...simply amazing how crappy it looks compared to the trailer and that some will act like it isn't that bad because it is "better than the dvd"

Ignorance is bliss is what I call it.

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Rakesh.S AVS Special Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,838	i just watched this earlier today....the movie (story/plot/execution) was not great, but definitely isn't as bad as people made it out to be. They could've tightened it up. However...this is the first movie where the DNR actually took me out of the movie. In the beginning when Asriel is talking to Lyra and they're walking outside, i saw smearing (first time ever for me in a BR movie)....there were at least 4 or 5 other shots like that too. If you look at xylon's caps of "The Longest Day" you'll know what I'm talking about it. It just looked cartoony. Has New Line had one decent release yet? I guess this is what we can expect from Blade 1,2,3, Seven, Final Destination, LOTR and all their other films? People used to bitch about HD-DVD having low bitrates....now that we have high bitrates, what's the point? If everything is going to be DNR'd to hell, it doesn't really matter. __________________ Watch SUPERNATURAL on The CW! One of the best shows on tv. Seasons 1-4 available on DVD. Seasons 3,4 on Blu. xbl gamertag: rakswp Last edited by Rakesh.S; 07-27-08 at 06:22 PM..

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The Golden Compass *PIX* + Reviews

The Golden Compass PIX + Reviews