Tremors comparison *PIX*

[Xylon]

What can I say? The DVD version is a piece of crap. The HD DVD version is also a piece of crap. DNR and EE dialed to 11. But in 1080P!

I'm not going to waste my time talking about this any longer. Let me know if there is a remastering in the future.


BTW check out the online reviews on this one

[Xylon]

[Xylon]

[Kram Sacul]

This is going to make Dark City's transfer look spectacular in comparison...

[joerod]

Tremors baby!

[Xylon]

Originally Posted by Kram Sacul

This is going to make Dark City's transfer look spectacular in comparison...

Oh I don't know

[Kram Sacul]

As expected it looks like total roadkill.

Xylon, any chance of comparing the HD-DVD against broadcast HD? The DNR might've been cranked for the disc version.

[Xylon]

Originally Posted by Kram Sacul

As expected it looks like total roadkill.

Xylon, any chance of comparing the HD-DVD against broadcast HD? The DNR might've been cranked for the disc version.

Yes, I will do that. I just ran out of time.

[swifty7]

ewww!!!! Kevin Bacon picking his ass.......EWWWW!!!!

Xylon you could have chosen a better pic?

[Kram Sacul]

Here's some more dvd vs HD-DVD. The HD version is a big upgrade but it's still godawful. See? Just because it's better than the dvd doesn't make it good or acceptable.

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...gleich=tremors

Was there ever an anamorpgic dvd of Tremors?

[southwick]

Still, means I need to pick up the HD DVD for sure.
This was one of my favorite movies growing up.

[Busa]

I haven't watched it yet but I'm glad I only paid $11.99 for it at Frys this past weekend.
It's a great movie though so even a marginal improvement is worth $12 IMO

[domtheone]

For those of us with only modest size TV's (37" Plasma in my case) it looked fine.

Whilst not perfect, it's a mssive improvement over the TV version that it broadcast by the BBC (here in the UK) every year

Well worth the $8

[Vader424242]

Originally Posted by Kram Sacul

Here's some more dvd vs HD-DVD. The HD version is a big upgrade but it's still godawful. See? Just because it's better than the dvd doesn't make it good or acceptable.

Was there ever an anamorphic dvd of Tremors?

All four films were anamorphic in the "Attack Pack" Franchise collection...

Originally Posted by domtheone

For those of us with only modest size TV's (37" Plasma in my case) it looked fine.

Whilst not perfect, it's a massive improvement over the TV version that it broadcast by the BBC (here in the UK) every year

Well worth the $8

I thought it looks quite good on my 65" at a viewing distance of 10'. I am not in any way defending the massive EE (which becomes more problematic as I close the viewing distance), just that it is far from "unwatchable" IMO.

[dad1153]

Looked fine on my 47" 1080p LCD (Olevia 747i) when I saw the HD-DVD a few months ago. Then again I also thought "Patton" on Blu-ray looked excellent until I stumbled upon Xylon's crusade against EE/DNR, so what do I know?

[Dave Mack]

Originally Posted by Xylon

This should be a poster child for why DNR and EE suck when abused.

[Kram Sacul]

Transfers like this should be a measurement of home theater setups. If it looks fine then you're either sitting too far away and/or your screen/projecter is not very revealing.

[Vader424242]

Originally Posted by Kram Sacul

If it looks fine then you're either sitting too far away and/or your screen/projecter is not very revealing.

... or there are those who's viewing distance was chosen specifically to give the best picture for all formats available on their setup, as opposed to catering solely to HDM and throwing everything else to the wind. For me, my viewing distance is ideal for playback of SD-DVDs, LDs and HDM. So, this transfer is a litmus test for systems designed solely with HDM in mind, and other lower resolution formats need not apply.

[Kram Sacul]

So you effectively crippled your HD setup for the sake of lousy SD formats. Now I know why some reviewers think every HD release looks "good". It all looks good if you're far enough away.

[Vader424242]

Originally Posted by Kram Sacul

So you effectively crippled your HD setup for the sake of lousy SD formats.

No, I am simply saying that not everyone watches from two nose-lengths.

[Kram Sacul]

How about at least 2 screen widths? If you're sitting further away than that you're throwing away resolution and the money spent on it.

[Vader424242]

Originally Posted by Kram Sacul

How about at least 2 screen widths? If you're sitting further away than that you're throwing away resolution and the money spent on it.

I understand your point, and it is well taken. However, the reverse can also be said (in my case, at least). By reducing my viewing distance to where I get the full benefit of the HD, the rest of my library, which I also spent a great deal of money on, becomes invalid (which is also money wasted). For me, 65" at 10' is a good compromise.

A good analogy might be equalizing a subwoofer for a large room with a lot of seating. You can take the FR to be smoothed from a single sweet spot and EQ it based on that (in which case the low frequencies at the other seats will be "less than ideal"), or you can EQ based on the average FR from multiple positions (while the LFE won't be great for all positions, it will be much better than case #1 off of the "sweet spot", and over a larger area).

[Kram Sacul]

Whatever floats your boat. I understand your reasons though. SD material on my HTPC setup is very soft at my normal 1.5 screen height viewing distance, even when upscaled via ffdshow's advanced scalers. My solution? I either move back or shrink the playback window to 1280x720, 960x540, or some other res depending on the AR. Quality is not lost and HD material looks even better in comparison.

[Vader424242]

Originally Posted by Kram Sacul

...shrink the playback window to 1280x720, 960x540, or some other res depending on the AR.

Does your PJ do this? Or your scaler? When I upgrade my display, that seems to be a better "compromise"...

[Kram Sacul]

I have a "small" 24" Dell monitor so it's done via computer just by dragging the window to the desired size on the desktop. I'm not sure how one would do that with a non-pc setup unless you there's an option for your pj/tv/player to just display 720p 1:1 inside a 1080p resolution without blowing it up fullscreen.

[Xylon]

[Xylon]

Look at Kevin's left hand. Is that digitally added?

Who hires this people?

[webdev511]

Originally Posted by Xylon

Look at Kevin's left hand. Is that digitally added?

Who hires this people?

No, in the frame his hand is in a shadow, so it lacks definition. If you're doing a transfer and come across something like this, just LEAVE IT ALONE. It doesn't need to be EE'd so it pops out.

Yes, there is such a thing as putting too much effort into these HD transfers.

[Kram Sacul]

Stop it, Xylon. You're making the HD-DVD look good by putting the crappy dvd image beside it.

[loregnum]

yiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiikes. How anyone could say that looks good is beyond me.