Superman Returns TrueHD/PCM in USA???

DigitalfreakNYC · 06-27-08, 06:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sperron

Probably the guy auctioning the product knowing ebay.

That's exactly it.

The way I look at it:

Did I need to have something that's worth $250 now (and will be worth considerably less in a year or two) or should I sell it now (while it's still worth more than $25) and use that money to buy other discs?

Clearly I chose the latter.

Plus, I've had it for months and never once opened it. There was bound to be someone out there who would appreciate it more than I do.

And since we're bragging, I found it by doing a little leg work on Ebay. Just started emailing people from around the country selling copies. Got it for $20.

Spizz · 08-12-08, 04:03 AM

They must of updated the Australian pressing of Superman Returns as it now includes a PCM/True-HD track even though it is not mentioned on the cover. The barcode is the same as the older version so it is pot luck if you get one (as you won't know until you open and play it) that has the lossless tracks on it-

The PCM track is awesome on it and IMO it sounds better than the True-HD track (which is strange as the are both lossless tracks and should be identical). Good news that is also Region free (tested with my Panasonic BD-30 Region A player).

Spizz · 08-12-08, 05:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lgans316

Thanks a lot for the info Spizz. If I order from ezydvd.com.au who are currently running 2 for AU $50 sale what are the chances of getting the new version ?

I think Japan also got a new release of SR. Let me check in the stores and revert back tomorrow.

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item_tt.zml...rid=0008980614
http://www.dvdcrave.com.au/products/....jsp?pid=35342

As I said it is pot luck. I wouldn't know if they have old stock or new stock. Ezydvd being a larger chain I would imagine have the new version but I wasn't willing to get stuck with the plain jane version.

If you wish I can try and get another copy from the store I purchase mine from and forward to you at whatever it costs with postage etc. Let me know.

gaeljet · 08-12-08, 06:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spizz

As I said it is pot luck. I wouldn't know if they have old stock or new stock. Ezydvd being a larger chain I would imagine have the new version but I wasn't willing to get stuck with the plain jane version.

If you wish I can try and get another copy from the store I purchase mine from and forward to you at whatever it costs with postage etc. Let me know.

i d like to know if there any change with PQ please( perhaps it ss even better..

) thx

BenjaminG · 08-12-08, 07:18 AM

Lucky enough to be in Australia for once!

Got my copy today, and as luck would have it, is the reissued version with PCM and Dolby TrueHD. Like the picture you see, the cover makes no mention of the extra audio tracks.

I checked the video bitrate on both versions, (I also have the original U.S. pressing), and it's identical. This is the exact same video encode, no questions.

The extra tracks are both 16 bit.

I checked the file structure of both discs. The original pressing was created on October 18th, 2006 and is 26.9 GB in size.

The new pressing was created on May 17th 2007, and is 44.1 GB in size.

lgans316 · 08-12-08, 08:10 AM

Thanks BenjaminG for the additional confirmation. Can you please let us know from which store you ordered the re-issue ? dvdcrave or ezydvd ?

faust1103 · 08-12-08, 08:43 AM

Hi,

I am from Germany.

I am afraid that I might get the old pressing if I order this online.

Is there any chance some1 from Oz can get me the the "Superman Returns BD" with the lossless audio and send it to me?

I'd cover all costs, shipping etc. by PayPal or however.
If you need any release from Germany in return I'd be happy to help.

Many thanks.

my email:

mandrake99@gmx.net

BenjaminG · 08-12-08, 08:43 AM

I ordered it direct from Warner from my work (wholesale acct)

lgans316 · 08-12-08, 09:36 PM

Warner has re-issued Superman Returns in Japan. Let me check in the stores during lunch break and revert back.

Reply from amazon.co.jp confirming there was a re-issue

************************************************************ **

Thanks for writing to Amazon.co.jp.

I browsed our website for you and found this item that most closely matches what you were searching for:

http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B001AHAGTW

This item is re-issue version which released on June 2008.

I hope this is what you hoped to find. I've also included some information below about finding products on Amazon.co.jp that you may find helpful in the future.

************************************************************ **

Reply from dvdcrave.com.au confirming presence of both PCM and Dolby True HD

I just played a Blu Ray Superman Returns and yes, it does have the PCM and Dolby True HD.

If you do choose to order this item, please put a note on your order to check for the PCM & Dolby True HD Audio Track so that if I am not here tomorrow that Vanessa can check it for you.

-----------------------------------------
Kind Regards,
Customer Service
Ph: 1300 885 381 (Australian Customers)
Ph: +61 8 83955088 (International Customers)
Email: service@dvdcrave.com
www.dvdcrave.com

https://ssl.dvdcrave.com/products/product.jsp?pid=35342

************************************************************ **

Thanks spizz and BenjaminG for promptly notifying about the re-issue. I pity those people who spent $80+ to get this one on eBay and a shame on Warner for deliberately excluding these tracks in their original release.

ThePrisoner · 08-12-08, 09:52 PM

Hmmmmm, should I go for it at EzyDVD?

bori · 08-12-08, 09:53 PM

So what can we get it directly from Warner now?

Fanboyz · 08-12-08, 10:02 PM

If warner rereleased this, along with Phantom of the Opera, Happy Feet, and Lady in the Water- I could smash my A30 with my lucky steak mallet.

cjr1 · 08-12-08, 10:53 PM

I think there may be a good chance they will do it quietly in the US. If I remember right, they did a similar thing with a couple of their DVD's, adding a DTS track after the fact. I remember re-buying Twister and Interview because of this.

DigitalfreakNYC · 08-12-08, 11:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cjr1

I think there may be a good chance they will do it quietly in the US. If I remember right, they did a similar thing with a couple of their DVD's, adding a DTS track after the fact. I remember re-buying Twister and Interview because of this.

Those both had major re-issues with DTS tracks. Nothing quiet about them.

shadowrage · 08-13-08, 01:12 AM

So I can order it from dvdcrave and it should have the PCM track.
Will all the extras play in a US PS3?

Outside of a couple of unannounced Uni titles this is the last HD-DVD I've been hanging on to.

What are the chances that Warner turned on the region locking when they re-issued this one?

lgans316 · 08-13-08, 01:19 AM

Yes you can but you have to email them to ship the re-issue which means they may unwrap your copy and check for presence of the ULTRA MODERN HD audio tracks.

Total: AUD $27.44 incl shipping (around US $25 - acceptable when the eBay bulls are charging $80+)

I placed the order today and received the below emails.

***************************************************
Hi,

I have checked your copy of Blu Ray Superman Returns Special Edition and it does feature the PCM & Dolby True HD Audio Track.

***************************************************

The following item(s) from your order were shipped today:

Blu-ray Disc - Superman Returns Special Edition

***************************************************

bori · 08-13-08, 01:45 AM

Just ordered mine and sent the email for them to check before they ship. I hope mine comes with the HD audio. Will it play in my region a player?

lgans316 · 08-13-08, 01:53 AM

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...5#post14427105

Quote:

The PCM track is awesome on it and IMO it sounds better than the True-HD track (which is strange as the are both lossless tracks and should be identical). Good news that is also Region free (tested with my Panasonic BD-30 Region A player).

bori · 08-13-08, 01:58 AM

Thanks

lgans316 · 08-13-08, 02:14 AM

WB have re-issued Training Day in Japan. Would be great if they had featured Dolby True HD track which was present on the HD DVD. Btw all versions of Training Day on Blu-ray is VC-1 encoded except the U.S version which is encoded using low bit rate MPEG-2.

Dave Mack · 08-13-08, 03:47 AM

The special features are partly 480P...?
Isn't Australia PAL country? Wouldn't they be in 576?

lgans316 · 08-13-08, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave Mack

The special features are partly 480P...?
Isn't Australia PAL country? Wouldn't they be in 576?

Warner never encodes extras at PAL resolutions for Hollywood movies on Blu-ray.

Dave Mack · 08-13-08, 04:00 AM

Gotcha. So the extras would play on a US PS3..?

lgans316 · 08-13-08, 04:04 AM

Yes it will play unless stated it's presented in 576i/p.

Member BenjaminG reported that the re-issue disc size is 44.1 GB in comparison to the old one which is 26.9 GB.

solidgator · 08-13-08, 05:08 AM

I ordered from dvdcrave last night also and asked them to check for the PCM and TrueHD tracks. They sent me the exact same reply as lgans316. I'll report back when I receive my order, supposedly in 5-10 days.

xfileed916 · 08-13-08, 09:50 AM

Out of stock...damn.

faust1103 · 08-13-08, 10:15 AM

****,

I tried to get this from DVDCrave as well.

However they are out of stock now.

Thanks to you ****ing bastards...

Any1 knows if EzyDVD is stocking the rmeastered version as well (or when DVDCrave will get more stock) ?

Ruined · 08-13-08, 10:21 AM

I'm sure the US will get the new version too, just a matter of time.

faust1103 · 08-13-08, 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ruined

I'm sure the US will get the new version too, just a matter of time.

Yeah,

but I don't wanna wait.
No stock at DVDCrave. No idea whether Ezy has the reamsetred version.

Smart move from Warners not to adjust the packaging...

Ruined · 08-13-08, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by faust1103

Yeah,

but I don't wanna wait.
No stock at DVDCrave. No idea whether Ezy has the reamsetred version.

Smart move from Warners not to adjust the packaging...

The packaging will probably change in time also. It is possible they have run out of old discs but still have old packaging covers to go through.

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BenjaminG Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 240	Lucky enough to be in Australia for once! Got my copy today, and as luck would have it, is the reissued version with PCM and Dolby TrueHD. Like the picture you see, the cover makes no mention of the extra audio tracks. I checked the video bitrate on both versions, (I also have the original U.S. pressing), and it's identical. This is the exact same video encode, no questions. The extra tracks are both 16 bit. I checked the file structure of both discs. The original pressing was created on October 18th, 2006 and is 26.9 GB in size. The new pressing was created on May 17th 2007, and is 44.1 GB in size.

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lgans316 Never Ever Warn-her Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bangalore India Posts: 6,379	Warner has re-issued Superman Returns in Japan. Let me check in the stores during lunch break and revert back. Reply from amazon.co.jp confirming there was a re-issue ********************************************************** Thanks for writing to Amazon.co.jp. I browsed our website for you and found this item that most closely matches what you were searching for: http://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B001AHAGTW This item is re-issue version which released on June 2008. I hope this is what you hoped to find. I've also included some information below about finding products on Amazon.co.jp that you may find helpful in the future. ********************************************************** Reply from dvdcrave.com.au confirming presence of both PCM and Dolby True HD I just played a Blu Ray Superman Returns and yes, it does have the PCM and Dolby True HD. If you do choose to order this item, please put a note on your order to check for the PCM & Dolby True HD Audio Track so that if I am not here tomorrow that Vanessa can check it for you. ----------------------------------------- Kind Regards, Customer Service Ph: 1300 885 381 (Australian Customers) Ph: +61 8 83955088 (International Customers) Email: service@dvdcrave.com www.dvdcrave.com https://ssl.dvdcrave.com/products/product.jsp?pid=35342 ********************************************************** Thanks spizz and BenjaminG for promptly notifying about the re-issue. I pity those people who spent $80+ to get this one on eBay and a shame on Warner for deliberately excluding these tracks in their original release. __________________ Blu-ray : 213 Last edited by lgans316; 08-12-08 at 09:57 PM..

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Spizz AVS Special Member Join Date: Jan 2000 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 2,732	They must of updated the Australian pressing of Superman Returns as it now includes a PCM/True-HD track even though it is not mentioned on the cover. The barcode is the same as the older version so it is pot luck if you get one (as you won't know until you open and play it) that has the lossless tracks on it- The PCM track is awesome on it and IMO it sounds better than the True-HD track (which is strange as the are both lossless tracks and should be identical). Good news that is also Region free (tested with my Panasonic BD-30 Region A player).

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faust1103 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 21	Hi, I am from Germany. I am afraid that I might get the old pressing if I order this online. Is there any chance some1 from Oz can get me the the "Superman Returns BD" with the lossless audio and send it to me? I'd cover all costs, shipping etc. by PayPal or however. If you need any release from Germany in return I'd be happy to help. Many thanks. my email: mandrake99@gmx.net

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bori AVS Special Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,727 Classified Rating: 100% (4)	So what can we get it directly from Warner now?

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cjr1 Senior Member Join Date: May 2005 Location: Struthers, OH Posts: 304	I think there may be a good chance they will do it quietly in the US. If I remember right, they did a similar thing with a couple of their DVD's, adding a DTS track after the fact. I remember re-buying Twister and Interview because of this.

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shadowrage AVS Special Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Posts: 3,779 Classified Rating: 100% (4)	So I can order it from dvdcrave and it should have the PCM track. Will all the extras play in a US PS3? Outside of a couple of unannounced Uni titles this is the last HD-DVD I've been hanging on to. What are the chances that Warner turned on the region locking when they re-issued this one? __________________ Ridiculous codec tier sig gone. Still AVC/24bit lossless fanboy. Studio quality tier Most Major studios>Small Studios>dogs>cats>Warner(the guys that do new movies) Last edited by shadowrage; 08-13-08 at 01:23 AM..

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lgans316 Never Ever Warn-her Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bangalore India Posts: 6,379	Yes you can but you have to email them to ship the re-issue which means they may unwrap your copy and check for presence of the ULTRA MODERN HD audio tracks. Total: AUD $27.44 incl shipping (around US $25 - acceptable when the eBay bulls are charging $80+) I placed the order today and received the below emails. ************************************************* Hi, I have checked your copy of Blu Ray Superman Returns Special Edition and it does feature the PCM & Dolby True HD Audio Track. *********************************************** The following item(s) from your order were shipped today: Blu-ray Disc - Superman Returns Special Edition *********************************************** __________________ Blu-ray : 213**

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lgans316 Never Ever Warn-her Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Bangalore India Posts: 6,379	Yes it will play unless stated it's presented in 576i/p. Member BenjaminG reported that the re-issue disc size is 44.1 GB in comparison to the old one which is 26.9 GB. __________________ Blu-ray : 213

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faust1103 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 21	**, I tried to get this from DVDCrave as well. However they are out of stock now. Thanks to you **ing bastards... Any1 knows if EzyDVD is stocking the rmeastered version as well (or when DVDCrave will get more stock) ?

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Ruined AVS Special Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 3,171	I'm sure the US will get the new version too, just a matter of time.