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Official AVS PS3 FAQ Thread
Update: February 2, 2009
FAQs: The Basics - Quick FAQs - Audio Settings - Video and Display Settings - Remote Controls Blu-ray Disc Profiles - Example Configurations - Firmware Updates The Blu-ray Disc Associated has completed (December 2009) the specification for extending the capabilities of Blu-ray Discs to support 3-Dimension (3D) video. Sony has annouced plans to release a firmware update to the PS3 during 2010 to add support for the playback of 3D video.This is the new AVS Playstation 3 (PS3) FAQ Thread for using the Sony PS3 as a Blu-ray Disc (BD) and DVD player. The old AVS PS3 FAQ thread is HERE and the on-going PS3 discussion thread is HERE. Also HERE is the new discssion thread intended to just cover the new "PS3 Slim" model. This PS3 FAQ thread applies to all models of the PS3 including the original "full sized" models as well as the new smaller "PS3 Slim" model. The old AVS PS3 FAQ thread was created by AVS forum member Steve Schauer with input from a number of other AVS members. Much of the material in this post has been taken from this earlier FAQ thread with appropriate updates and additions to account for the various new functions and upgrades that have been made to the PS3, via firmware updates, that have been released by Sony since the original FAQ summary, in Post #1 of that tread, was last updated in January 2008. Much of credit for the information included in this new FAQ thread goes to Steve and the contributors to the earlier PS3 FAQ thread. Thanks go the major contributions to the summary information in that earlier PS3 FAQ thread that included forum members: chris0, geko29, CasualViewer, bplewis24, joeblow, Rich Davenport, 30XS955 User, BigScreen, and splinters. Also thanks to AVS forum member DarkAdept for the inputs he provided for this New PS3 FAQ thread. The goal of this New AVS PS3 FAQ thread is to provide an overview of the video and audio capabilities (i.e. non-gaming) of the PS3 and to also provide “How to” information on setting up the PS3 for various somewhat generic home theater configurations. The PS3 is a very complex device with dozens of individual setup options. Likewise, there are many different possible configurations of home theater systems (e.g., HDTV displays, audio/video receivers and speakers) and it is impossible to address every possible alternative configuration. However, the goal is to describe within this Post the recommended PS3 setup for several of the most common home theater configurations and then rely on subsequent discussion among AVS members to address specific/unique configurations not covered by the more generic configurations described below. What You Need to Know Before You Start
* Note that the now discontinued 20GB PS3 model does not include a WiFi capability.
How do I turn the PS3 on and off? Probably the most basic of all questions. There is a master power switch on the back of the console. This is normally kept in the on position and this will keep the PS3 in a standby mode with a red LED (light) displayed on the front panel. Next to that red light on the front panel is a touch sensitive on/off button. To power on the PS3 console you place your finger on this button and the adjacent LED will turn from red to green. To turn the console off hold your finger on the power button for about 3 seconds, until the adjacent LED start flashing, and the PS3 will power down. Another method to turn off the PS3 is from the XMB under "Users" you can select the command to "Turn System Off." Using a remote, you can power on the PS3 console by pressing the ‘P’ button, on either the game controller or the Sony BD remote. Finally, you can power on the PS3 console by inserting a Blu-ray Disc (BD), a DVD or a CD into the loading slot on the front panel of the PS3 console. In this case the PS3 will power on and begin playing the disc. What is the difference between the current 40GB, 80GB and 160GB models, and how about the older 20GB and 60GB models and what about new models coming out? As far as playing Blu-ray Disc (BDs), DVDs or CDs and for playing PS3 games, all PS3 models (past and current) perform the same functions. Up until August 2008 the features of the different models were clear when one referred to the unit's hard disk drive capacity. However, new models appearing and announced in August 2008 make things more difficult. Here is a brief run down on what we have had and what it looks like for the rest of 2008:
Sony has introduced the "PS3 Slim" (in August 2009) at a list price of $299. This is a new compact model that includes a 120 GB hard drive. The only functional difference offered by the new PS3 Slim, as compared to the previous models, is the new model has upgraded the HDMI hardware and associated firmware such that the lossless audio formats (Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA) can now be bitstreamed via the HDMI output. This is the first update to the basic PS3 design and functionality since the PS3 was first introduced in late 2006. Effectively immediately the prices for the current PS3 models are dropping by $100, bringing the price of the existing 80 GB model to $299 and the $160 GB model to $399. These price reductions are intended to clear out the existing inventory of the 80GB and 160GB models that are being discontinued. How do I setup my new PS3 for use with my HDTV display and my audio system? The PS3 displays a graphical user interface using a XrossMediaBar with drop down menus. The "Settings" drop down from the XMB is used to configure the audio and video capabilities of the PS3. ![]() I have a widescreen TV but I still see black bars on some movies. This one is easy to understand. Really. Movies are rectangular, and they come in a lot of different shaped rectangles (aspect ratios). If the movie rectangle isn't the same proportions as your TV's rectangle, it won't fill the screen unless you distort it by stretching it vertically or horizontally. This article by Joshua Zyber explains it pretty well: http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/764 How do I select the Audio and Video options while playing a movie on BD or DVD The main (top level) menu on some discs provide an audio options menu item that you must enter to select the audio track you want to play, if other than the default is desired. Once the movie is playing you can press the Triangle button the BD remote or game controller and this will bring up an on-screen menu with icons and pop-up text descriptions for a number of audio and video playback options. Does the PS3 have a 'Resume Play' function for playback of DVDs and BDs? You must use the 'Stop' function to end playback of a disc, not just eject the disc during playback, in order for the resume play to work. Resume works with all DVD disc. However, for Blu-ray discs the resume feature works on all Profile 1.0 titles but appears to not work on Profile 1.1 and Profile 2.0 titles with bookmarking facilities or BD-Java content (see below). How do I use the Bookmark feature with BDs? The bookmark feature only works on BD titles that include BD-Java menus and that have also enabled bookmarks. The following example of how to use bookmarks assumes you are using a Sony Bluetooth BD remote control. Note that if you are using the Sony PS3 game controller or a non-Sony BD remote that lacks the number keys you can enter numbers by pressing the Triangle button on the controller/remote then selecting the number from the menu. I played the Independence Day BD which has BD-Java with bookmarks enabled for the following description. Step 1 - To create a bookmark While the movie is playing press the digit 1 key on the remote (and a brief message is displayed on the screen saying "Setting Marker 1"). To set another bookmark press the number 1 key again and you will get an on-screen message "Setting Marker 2", etc.Step 2 - To go to a saved bookmark
How do I check my firmware version? On the PS3 XMB, choose Settings, System Settings, System Information. The current version as of this update is 3.15. How do I update my firmware? The simplest way is to connect your PS3 to the internet. Then, from the XMB, choose Settings, System Settings, Update via Internet. If you don't have a network connection, you'll need to download the update and copy it to a USB memory stick or a memory card if your PS3 model has a memory card reader. More details are provided below how to update your PS3's firmware. What's the best way to connect my PS3 to an Audio/Video Receiver (AVR) and an AVR to a HDTV display? If your AVR has HDMI inputs and outputs, connect your PS3 to your AVR with an HDMI cable, and connect your AVR to your display with another HDMI cable. If you HDTV display doesn't have a HDMI input, but has a DVI input that supports HDCP (copy protection) then you can use a HDMI-to-DVI cable to connect a HDMI output (e.g., from an AVR) to the DVI input on the HDTV display. If you also want the audio to be provided into the HDTV then you will need to run separate audio cable, since DVI only carries video. If your AVR doesn't have a HDMI input and it has optical audio inputs while your HDTV display has a HDMI input, connect your PS3 to your AVR with an optical digital audio (i.e., Toslink) cable, and connect your PS3 to your HDTV display with an HDMI cable. Note that some BD's only English language audio track is encoded using DTS HD-Master Audio (especially true for BDs released by Fox Studios). In order to hear this surround audio track your AVR must support DTS audio decoding when connected to the PS3 via an optical cable. If your AVR does not support DTS decoding (i.e., your AVR only supports Dolby Digital and PCM from the optical input) then you must configure the PS3's sound settings so that DTS is not enabled (not checked). This configuration will result in the PS3 decoding the DTS track on the BD and providing an 2-channel stereo format output via the PS3's optical connection. You may want to set your AVR to use Dolby Pro-Logic mode to recover some surround sound information from the 2-channel input.If your HDTV display's only HD input is component video (it doesn't have a HDMI or DVI w/HDCP input), you'll need to purchase a PS3 component AV cable to get the component video output from the PS3 (limited to 1080i maximum output resolution). The component video cable is sold by Sony, Monster and others and is for use specifically with the PS3 (and PS2). If your AVR has HD capable component video inputs and an output you can connect both the audio and component video from the PS3 into the AVR then the component video out of the AVR to the HDTV display's component video input. If the AVR doesn't have component video inputs/output then you can connect the component video out of the PS3 directly to the display and run a separate audio connection (e.g., optical digital audio cable) from the PS3 the the AVR. If your display doesn't have an HD input using component video or HDMI or DVI w/HDCP, I'm sorry for you since you won’t be able to get HD video. See the Example Configurations for Connecting Your PS3 below for more information on typical PS3 connection and setup configurations. Can the PS3 output video over multilple outputs (i.e., HDMI, Component or S-Video/Composite) at the same time No, you can select only one video output type to be active at any one time (see video setup info below) Can the PS3 output audio over multiple outputs (i.e., HDMI, Optical and Analog) at the same time? Prior to version 3.00 firmware for the PS3, you could select only one audio output type to be active at any one time (see audio setup info below). However, starting with version 3.00 of the firmware a new menu selection has been added under the "Sound Settings" for "Audio Multi-Output". By setting "Audio Multi-Output" to "ON", multiple audio outputs (e.g., HDMI and optical) will be active at the same time. Can the PS3 output video over component while simultaneously outputting audio over an HDMI connection? Yes, and other combinations, like video over HDMI and audio over optical, are supported. If if decide to sell my old PS3 and buy an new one are there any special things that I need to do If you have a Playstation Network account set up with your original PS3 then it will need to be deactivated using your original PS3 before you sell it. By doing this you can activite the new PS3 to your existing Playstation Network account. Only one PS3 can be active (i.e., registered) on your Playstation Network account at any one time and as a result you must use your old PS3 system to remove itself from your account before using your new PS3 system to add itself to the account. To deactivate your old PS3 from your Playstation Network account: Where can I get a good deal on the PS3? Generally the PS3 sells for full list price (there is very little markup between the wholesale and retail price of the PS3 console). Occasionally there are some bonuses, such as adding on a free Sony remote for free BD movies. If you apply for a SonyStyle credit card here you can get a $100 credit on a PS3 purchase directly from Sony. Should I buy the PS3 or the xxxxx? Sorry, you're going to have to make up your own mind on that one. You might want to take a look at the Help a guy choose a Blu-ray player thread for some opinions. How do I stream content to the PS3? Windows PCHow do I configure the WiFi? If your WiFi is unprotected, just go to: Settings >>> Network Settings >>> Internet Connection and choose Easy. If it's protected, choose Custom and you'll be prompted for the SSID, the encryption method and the security (i.e., encryption) key, which you'll need to get from your wireless router's configuration page if you don't already know it. The PS3 setup instructions for WiFi are HERE. If you have network problems with the PS3 or the other devices on your wireless network after adding the PS3, it may be necessary to assign a static IP address to avoid conflicts between the PS3 and other devices (e.g., a PC) on your wireless network. Information is HERE for assigning a static IP address to your PS3. Note that the now discontinued 20GB version of the PS3 does not include a WiFi capability. What is Folding@Home? Folding@Home is a distributed computing project for scientific inquiry into protein folding as related to disease. You can donate time on your PS3, as a member of the avsforum team, no less. You can set a timer to shut off the PS3 after running for a specified period or when the next work unit (WU) is done. You'll need an internet connection to download WU's and folding software updates. See folding@home web site. From the XMB Settings menu there are two drop down menus that you will need to check.
Also from the XMB Settings menu there is a drop down menu for "Sound Settings" and it is here that you select to have the audio output via either HDMI or Optical (one or the other, not both, can be selected for PS3 firmware versions prior to 3.00) with sub-menus under each for selecting the specific audio formats to be supported for that type of output. Starting with PS3 firmware version 3.00 multiple audio outputs can be active simultaneously. For this new feature, a new menu item has been added under the "Sound Settings" menu for "Audio Multi-Output". With this option set to "ON" the PS3 audio will be simutaneously output on multiple outputs (e.g., HDMI and optical).[/list] In most cases you should set your PS3 to output Bitstream if you are using an optical digital connection (i.e., Toslink) from the PS3 to your Audio/Video Receiver (AVR), and you should set it to LPCM if you using a HDMI connection to an AVR (see below if you have the newer "PS3 Slim" model). These are the default settings. Unless you have the newer "PS3 Slim" model, the PS3 will not bitstream advanced audio formats to your AVR (i.e., it can only bitstream basic Dolby Digital and DTS surround audio formats). All models of the PS3 can decode all of the Blu-ray Disc standard and optional audio formats and convert them to multichannel LPCM and pass that to your AVR via HDMI. Note however that the optical audio output from the PS3 (or any other Blu-ray Disc player), can never support the new high resolution (i.e., lossless) surround sound audio formats. Thus, to get the full advantage from the superior performance from the high resolution audio formats offered on BD, as compared to DVD, you must connect your PS3 to an AVR that has HDMI inputs. If you are using one of the orginal models of the PS3 (i.e., not the PS3 Slim) then the AVR must accept multichannel LPCM via a HDMI input (most AVRs that have HDMI inputs can do this except for a very few low-end models). If you are using the newer PS3 Slim model then it can be configured to either output the lossless audio in bitstream mode or to perform the decoding and output the lossless audio in LPCM mode via the HDMI output on the PS3. In order to use the bitstream mode on the PS3 Slim your AVR will need to both have an available HDMI input and be able to decode the lossless audio formats, including Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-Master Audio. The PS3 console has three types of audio outputs. The advanced high resolution Dolby, DTS and multi-channel PCM surround audio formats are only fully supported when using the HDMI output. However, if you are willing to live with just a 2-channel output in PCM (rather than the full surround sound formats) the improved fidelity offered by the advanced high resolution audio formats can be provided via the optical digital audio and even the analog audio outputs. Also Standard Dolby and DTS surround formats (as used on DVDs) can be output via the optical (Toslink) digital audio connection in bitstream format. The following table shows what audio format is output for each type of connection for the different audio formats that may be found on BDs, DVD, and SACD (Super Audio CDs). ![]() Notes: (1) lossless audio output is provided in multichannel Linear PCM (LPCM) format via HDMI for all channels recorded on Blu-ray Disc For those still a bit confused by all the audio stuff here are two links that should help (Originally Posted by chris0). This one explains the difference between decoding in the player (sending it PCM) or in the receiver (HBR bitstreaming, which the PS3 can't do for the advanced high resolution audio formats.) http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/853 The relevant part is about halfway down under "New HD Lossless Audio Formats." This one explains all the different codecs. It's a long read but a good one. http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/1064 Does the PS3 play CD's? Yes, and it can upconvert them to up to a 176.4 KHz sampling rate with selectable digital filters. Does the PS3 play SACD's? No current model of the PS3 supports SACD. However, early versions of the PS3 that were released from late 2006 through mid-2007 (i.e., prior to the first 40 GB Model) did support SACD. If you need SACD support be certain to check specifications for the specific model you are considering. You need HDMI to get the best sound and multi-channel play. The optical and analog outputs are functional but they are limited to 2 channel stereo sound, and only at a reduced fidelity 44.1 KHz sampling rate (i.e., standard CD rate) over the optical digital audio output. See this PS3 SACD FAQ Does the PS3 have analog outs? There is a basic stereo analog out from the AV Connector. The PS3 does not use very high quality Digital-to-Analog (D-to-A) converters to drive the stereo analog output, thus the resulting sound quality, even for stereo sources, will generally not be as good as compared to using a digital connection to a quality AVR (which will typically have better quality D-to-A converters). Why doesn't the Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-Master Audio light on my AV Receiver (AVR) come on when I'm playing BDs with these lossless audio formats? Because the original generation of PS3s use hardware that cannot bitstream the lossless Dolby and DTS audio formats via the HDMI output, the only option available for getting lossless multichannel audio out of these PS3 consoles is allowing the PS3 to do the decoding itself and then output, via HDMI, the decoded multichannel audio using Linear Pulse Code Modulation (LPCM). The AVR may have an indicator showing that the input is PCM, LPCM, MLPCM, or something similar. The AVR would only activate the Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA light if it were doing the decoding. It would only be doing this if the source device were outputting these advanced audio formats as a bitstream and the original PS3 is not capable of doing this. The end result in sound quality is in most cases essentially the same (depending on the specific capabilities of the AVR) whether the decoding is being done by the PS3 vs. having the AVR do the decoding. The new "PS3 Slim" design uses a later generation of HDMI hardware that is capable of bitstream output via HDMI of all of the Blu-ray Disc audio formats, including the lossless Dolby TrueHD and DTS HD-MA formats. Thus, with this new generation of PS3 hardware consumers that connect their PS3 Slim to a modern AVR via HDMI will have the choice of configuring the PS3 to internally decode the audio and the output this decoded audio in LPCM format (via the HDMI output) or having the PS3 bitstream the undecoded audio on to their AVR and allowing rhe AVR to do the decoding. In this latter case the AVR should indicate the specific audio format being output from the disc (i.e., including Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA when those are available). Note that some Blu-ray Disc titles that do include one or more lossless audio tracks may only play the lossless track (instead of standard Dolby Digital or DTS) once the user has selected the lossless fromat from the disc's audio setup menu, while other Blu-ray titles may automatically default to the lossless audio track. This behavior is normal and is under the control of each movie studio when they create (author) their Blu-ray Discs. How can I determine what audio (and video) format the PS3 is currently decoding and outputting when playing a Blu-ray Disc? While playing a disc press the button on the game controller or remote with the triangle icon. This will bring up a 'control panel'. Use the cursor (or arrow) keys to highlight and select the i+ icon and this will display the current audio and video codecs being used and the associated bit rates. Why is it when I play Blu-ray Discs on my PS3 that uses one of the lossess audio formats (e.g., Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA), and with the PS3 doing the decoding and outputting via LCPM over HDMI, it doesn't sound a good as when using a standalone BD player and using bitstream output to my Audio/Video Receiver (AVR) with the AVR doing the decoding? Assuming have correctly set up the PS3 to decode these advanced lossless formats and it is outputting the decoded lossless audio in LPCM format over the HDMI output to your AVR then the most likely reasons are:
Under Settings >>> Display Settings >>> Video Output Settings you must select the type of video output you are using to connect your PS3 to your display. You can select only one the PS3's video outputs to be active. The video outputs available are are HDMI, Component Video, and S-Video/Composite Video. Only HDMI and Component Video support high definition video. HDMI will support resolutions up to 1080p while Component Video will support resolutions up to 1080i for Blu-ray Disc playback. Also note that use of component video requires a Playstation specific cable that is an optional accessory (available from Sony and Monster Cable). Under Settings >>> Video Settings >>> BD/DVD Video Output Format (HDMI), what are RGB, Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr and Auto for? In most cases the correct setting is 'Auto'. In Auto mode the display will indicate it capabilities in the initial HDMI data exchange and the PS3 will select the correct colorspace. RGB: This is the colorspace typically used for computer generated graphics (e.g., as used by PCs and PC monitors). This is the colorspace also used in the PS3’s XMB interface and for video games, because they are encoded in sRGB. Selecting RGB will force this output mode for all video (including BD/DVD playback) output via HDMI from the PS3.Note that the XMB and Games are always output in RGB format while BD/DVD playback is user selectable for output in RGB or Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr format. I notice weird things happening with colors when selecting Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr or Auto. What should I do? Try forcing the PS3 to output the video in RGB format (rather than Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr) to see if this eliminates the problems. Your display may not accept, or may have trouble with Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr format input. So then under Settings >>> Display Settings, should I have RGB set to “Full” or “Limited”? If your HDTV is calibrated (i.e., adjusted) for use as a video display (rather an a computer display) then “limited” is the correct setting. Most TVs can experience “black crush” when “Full” is selected because the colorspace is being re-mapped beyond what the TV is expecting. Start with it set at “Limited” and calibrate your TV accordingly. Use grey-scale test pattern images from a DVD or BD test disc (such as Digital Video Essentials or Avia) if necessary during calibration. See this discussion for a more detailed discussion (for and against) What about Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super-White? “On” or “Off”? Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr Super-white is used to pass Blacker-than-Black (BTB) and Peak Whiter-than-White (WTW) levels during video playback. Setting this to “On” should benefit your display as long as your TV accepts Y Pb/Cb Pr/Cr input over HDMI. Again, try using a test pattern DVD/BD to calibrate your display after this is turned on. Note that some HDTVs will accept and display BTB and WTW while other HDTV’s will not display these ‘out of bounds’ video levels. Commercial BD discs (except test discs) should not be using BTB and WTW video levels and an ideally calibrated HDTV should correctly display all intended video information even it does not support BTB and WTW levels. However, support for BTB and WTW can be useful when using BD test discs for calibrating a HDTV display. Not all displays are alike, so use common sense. If you notice a decrease in picture quality after changing any of the above settings either try recalibrating the TV or revert back to the previous setting. How does the video compare to standalone BD players? For BD playback most users think the PS3 is in the top tier of of BD players. Does the PS3 support 1080p/24 playback for Blu-ray and DVD? Playback at 1080p/24 is supported for Blu-ray but has not yet been added for playback of DVDs. 1080p output requires an HDMI connection for video. Most HDTV displays with a native resolution of 1080p (sometimes called "Full HD") will accept a 1080p/60 (i.e., 60 Hz) input. Some newer HDTV displays will also accept an input of 1080p/24 which is the native rate of most movies recorded on BDs. See THIS THREAD for a discussion on HDTVs that can most benefit from 1080p/24. The relevant setting for configuring the PS3 to output video in the 1080p/24 format is accessed from the XMB: XMB >>> Settings >>> Video Settings >>> BD 1080p 24 Hz Output (HDMI) Note: "Video Settings" was called "BD/DVD Settings" with PS3 firmware prior to version 2.50 The default setting of "Automatic" will enable 1080p/24 for any display that correctly communicates that it is 1080p/24 capable. If you KNOW your HDTV display supports 1080p/24 and you're certain the PS3 isn't automatically enabling 1080p/24 during Blu-ray playback, changing this setting to "On" will force 1080p/24 playback. Changing the setting to "Off" will not allow 1080p/24 playback regardless of the display's capabilities. How good is the video for playing DVDs (i.e., upconverting)? The DVD upconversion capabilities of the PS3 are quite good and have improved with later PS3 firmware updates. Although the PS3 results are better than provided by many mass-market consumer upscaling DVD players, the results are still not quite to the level provided by the very best upscaling provided by the best video processor hardware (such as the Reon processor used in some high end standalone players, AVRs and outboard processors. PS3, Upconversion and Blu-ray DVD upscaling features can be set starting from the XMB: XMB >>> Settings >>> Video Settings* >>> Upscale * "Video Settings" was called "BD/DVD Settings" with PS3 firmware prior to version 2.50Setting this to "Off" will output DVD content at 480p, while the other three options will upscale the content to the highest output resolution available. "Normal" is usually the preferred setting, as it will preserve the aspect ratio of 4:3 content. "Full Screen" will stretch 4:3 content horizontally. "Double Scale" requires 1080i or 1080p output and will upscale to 1440x960 (exactly double DVD's native 720x480 resolution.) Note that upscaling copy-protected commercial DVDs requires an HDMI connection. With most commercial DVDs component video output from the PS3 is limited to 480p. Currently, standard definition extras on Blu-ray are not upscaled. The PS3 also provides three types of noise filters that can be used for DVD playback. The controls for the noise filters can be accessed while playing a DVD by pressing the Triangle button on the BD remote or game controller then highlighting the icon for "AV Setting" and pressing the X button to select. Note these noise reduction filters only work when playing DVDs, not with Blu-ray Discs. The three available video noise filter are:
Each of these have available settings of Off, 1, 2 or 3. Using too high a setting can soften the video image, but each may prove useful with dealing with DVDs that exhibit video noise, including digital artifacts. <<<Feb. 2, 2010 UPDATE>>> There are four* different "Profiles" for the video+audio capabilties of Blu-ray Disc (BD) players and discs. The earliest BD players were all Profile 1.0 and included the basic features for playback of BDs. Profile 1.0 players are no longer being manufactured, but such players can still play movies on BDs, but cannot support some of the enhanced features included on some of the new discs.Many of the current BD movie titles, starting with releases in 2008, have included features using Bonus View and/or BD-Live enhancements. The first BD movies based on the new Blu-ray 3D specification are expected to be released by mid-2010. All current BD players are either Profile 1.1 or Profile 2.0. The Blu-ray Disc profiles are explained in detail HERE. The first BD players supporting the new Blu-ray 3D specification are expected in mid-2010. What Blu-ray Disc Profile does the PS3 Support? The PS3 has been upgraded, via firmware updates, since first introduced as a Profile 1.0 player and it now supports BD Profile 2.0 (i.e., supporting both Bonus-View and BD-Live features). Sony has annouced plays to release a firmware update during 2010 (best guess - in the 3rd quarter of 2010) that will upgrade the PS3 to support the new Blu-ray 3D specification. However, it is not yet known if there will be any limitations on the functionality that can be provided by the updated PS3 as compared to the capabilties of the upcoming standalone BD players designed "from the ground up" to support Blu-ray 3D. Does Sony offer a BD/DVD remote control for the PS3? While the supplied game controller can be used to control all of the BD/DVD/CD playback functions, many home theater users prefer a more conventional remote control. Sony offers a Bluetooth based remote control that retails for $25. Can I use my Harmony (or other learning universal) remote with the PS3? Only if you use a IR adapter. The least expensive solution is the Nyko BD remote (sold by amazon.com and others) that includes a simple IR remote and a IR receiver that simply plugs into one of the USB ports on the front of the PS3 console. This solution is limited in that it cannot be used to turn the PS3 power on, but it provides basic disc playback functions (note the Nyko remote can be used to turn off your PS3 by stopping disc playback, then navigating on the XMB to "Users" then selecting "Turn Off System"). The Nyko PS3 remote is now listed in the Harmony data base so you can easily use only the IR-to-USB adapter that is included with the Nyko remote and program your Harmony remote to control BD/DVD playback on you PS3 Logitech's Harmony has released their own solution for controlling the PS3 with an IR-to-Bluetooth adapter. Unlike using an IR-to-USB adapter, the $59.99 (MSRP) Harmony Adapter for PS3 (shown below) supports full remote functionality including powering on the PS3. Another PS3 remote alternative: http://www.schmartz.com/main.sc There is also a new generation of more full function remotes for the PS3 that convert IR to Bluetooth, as used by the Sony remotes. Four small companies are now selling such IR-to-Bluetooth remote solutions. The discussion on these is http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=1016741. How do I use the game controller as a remote? The game controller supplied with the PS3 can be used to control all of the BD/DVD/CD playback functions. The photos below show the remote function associated with each button on the controller. ![]() ![]() There are multiple methods to connect a PS3 to HDTV and for connecting a PS3 to an Audio/Video Receiver (AVR). If you have a recent vintage HDTV and/or AVR it will probably include one or more HDMI inputs. This is a digital interface that carries video and audio and can support the highest quality video and audio formats provided by the PS3 and available on Blu-ray Discs. Using HDMI is the best choice if you HDTV display and your AVR have HDMI inputs. Some common equipment configurations are described below. The specific cases considered below range from the simplest case with just a PS3 and a HDTV display to more complex home theater configurations where the PS3 is connected to an input on an AVR and the output of the AVR is connected to a HDTV display. For all cases it is suggested you start with the following PS3 audio and video settings as selected starting from the display showing the PS3's XMB and then using the "Settings" drop-down menu: XMB >>> Settings >>> Display Settings >>> XMB >>> Settings >>> Video Settings* >>> * "Video Settings" was called "BD/DVD Settings" with PS3 firmware prior to version 2.50 Case 1: PS3 connected to a new HDTV (that has at least one HDMI input) and using the HDTV’s speakers for the audio (i.e, not using a separate audio system). This is the simplest case and you only need to use a HDMI cable with male connectors on each end to connect the HDMI output of the PS3 to a HDMI input on your HDTV. You then use your HDTV’s remote control to select the HDMI input that you used and the PS’s video and audio will come through your HDTV. Suggested PS3 Audio and Video additional Settings for Case 1 (starting from XMB and Settings drop down menu):
* "Video Settings" was called "BD/DVD Settings" with PS3 firmware prior to version 2.50Case 2: PS3 connected to an older HDTV that has a DVI input, but no HDMI input, and you are using the HDTV’s speakers for the audio. When your HDTV has a DVI input (and no HDMI input) you will need to purchase a HDMI-to-DVI cable with a male HDMI connector on one end and a male DVI connector on the other end. You will also need to connect the audio separately since DVI does not carry the audio into the HDTV. For the audio you can simply use an analog stereo cable or if your HDTV accepts an optical digital audio input, you can instead use a, optical digital audio cable (also called a Toslink cable). Note: Alternatively if you already have a extra HDMI-to-HDMI or a DVI-to-DVI cable you could purchase the appropriate HDMI-to-DVI adapter or DVI-to-HDMI adapter to make the connection from the PS3 HDMI output to the HDTV’s DVI input. Suggested PS3 Audio and Video additional Settings for Case 2 (starting from XMB and Settings drop down menu):
* "Video Settings" was called "BD/DVD Settings" with PS3 firmware prior to version 2.50Case 3: PS3 connected to an older HDTV that has only a Component Video Input for HD video (i.e., no HDMI or DVI input) and you are using the HDTV’s speakers for the audio. Many older HDTVs have only a component video input for HD video. This is a type of analog connection that uses 3 individual connectors, frequently identified with red, blue and green colored connectors, to carry the HD video signal. The PS3 does not come with a component video cable and if your HDTV requires you to use component video for your HD video input then you will need to purchase one that is specifically intended for use with the PS3. These cables have a “Multi-AV” connector on one end (that plugs into the PS3) and the 3 video connectors and two audio connectors on the other end. Do not confuse this with the Composite Video and Audio connector this is supplied with the PS3 that has red, white and yellow connectors. Composite video is only for standard definition and not HD. Component video is limited to a maximum resolution of 1080i and cannot support the maximum resolution 1080p mode of the PS3. This is just a limitation of your HDTV and be assured the PS3 is still fully compatible with your HDTV. The Multi-AV/Component Video cables sold for use with the PS3 also include 2 cables to carry analog stereo audio to you HDTV. Alternatively if your HDTV accepts an optical digital audio input, you can instead use a optical digital audio cable (also called Toslink cable) to carry the audio from the PS3 to your HDTV. Suggested PS3 Audio and Video additional Settings for Case 3 (starting from XMB and Settings drop down menu):
* "Video Settings" was called "BD/DVD Settings" with PS3 firmware prior to version 2.50Case 4: PS3 connected to a recent model AVR, with HDMI inputs, and the AVR HDMI output is connected to your recent vintage HDTV. In this case you can simply use an HDMI cable to connect from the HDMI output on your PS3 to an available HDMI input on your AVR. Then use another HDMI cable to connected the HDMI output of your AVR to an available HDMI input on your HDTV. Your AVR will receive the digital audio data (decoded and provided in multi-channel LPCM format) from the PS3, will process it then output the audio to the connected speakers. The AVR will also pass the digital video data on to your HDTV for display. Suggested PS3 Audio and Video additional Settings for Case 4 (starting from XMB and Settings drop down menu):
* "Video Settings" was called "BD/DVD Settings" with PS3 firmware prior to version 2.50Case 5: PS3 connected to a recent vintage HDTV with HDMI and connected to an older AVR via optical digital audio cable (i.e., Toslink). In this case you should use an HDMI cable to connect from the HDMI output on your PS3 directly an available HDMI input on your HDTV. Then use an optical digital cable (i.e., Toslink) to connected the PS3 digital audio output to an available optical digital input on your AVR. Your AVR will receive the digital audio data (with the PS3 set to provide bitstream output via it optical digital audio output) from the PS3 via the optical cable. The AVR will decode/process it then output the audio to the connected speakers. The HD video will be sent directly to your HDTV via the HDMI connection. Note that optical digital is limited to only carrying the basic Dolby Digital and DTS surround sound formats (essentially as provided with DVD players but in some cases with BD's you will get somewhat higher bit rates) and cannot carry the highest fidelity surround sound formats supported on some Blu-ray Discs. This is a limitation of having an AVR that does not support HDMI inputs, but in this case the PS3 can be configured to still be compatible with your existing equipment. Suggested PS3 Audio and Video additional Settings for Case 5 if your AVR has decoding for basic Dolby Digital and DTS surround sound* (starting from XMB and Settings drop down menu):
* If you have an older AVR that includes decoding for Dolby Digital but not DTS then you must configure the settings for PS3's Digital Output (Optical) so that DTS is not enabled (i.e., not checked). With this configuration when playing BDs that have only a DTS English Language Surround audio track, the PS3 will decode the DTS audio track and output 2-channel stereo audio in PCM format via the PS3's optical output. You may want to enable Dolby Pro-Logic on your AVR to recover some surround sound information. <December 6, 2009 Update> Version 2.52 firmware was released on November 4, 2008, version 2.53 was released on December 2, 2008, version 2.60 was released on January 21, 2009, version 2.70 firmware was released on April 2, 2009, version 2.76 was released on May 14, 2009, and version 2.80 on June 24, 2009. The current generation of firmware, i.e., version 3.00, was released on September 1, 2009 and a minor update with a few fixes to enhance stability, version 3.01, was released two weeks later. The latest firmware version as of this PS3 FAQ update is version 3.15. Firmware releases that increment the third digit of the version number (e.g. from version 3.00 to 3.01) are considered minor updates to the previously released major update (e.g., version 3.00 of the firmware. The current generation of firmware (starting with version 3.00) supports having animated themes, a "What's New" section and other interface changes. A summary of additions/enhancements included in latest PS3 firmware release and the download link can be found HERE (note however that this web site is usually updated a few days after new firmware is released). PS3 owners with their PS3 console connected to the internet (via either WiFi or Ethernet) can now use the 'System Update' feature under the 'Settings' menu to download and install the latest firmware. An overview of downloading firmware updates for the PS3 is HERE and an overview of the latest firmware update is HERE. Originally it was recommended that owners use the PS3 game controller to operate your PS3 for performing a firmware update. While only the game controller reliably worked for operating the PS3 for firmware updates with earlier firmware updates most users have no issues using other remotes (e.g. Sony bluetooth BD remote control) for updating from version 2.4x or later firmware. However, using the game contoller is the most proven solution when doing firmware updates. If you don't have your PS3 connected to the internet then you can download the firmware update onto your PC and install the update onto your PS3 using a USB flash memory drive. Note that the USB flash drive must use FAT32 formatting. The instructions and download link are HERE for downloading to a PC. Also some new PS3 Games titles may include the firmware update files - instructions are HERE. Note that firmware updates first become available for download only for those PS3's that have high speed interent connections and will typically become available a few days later to download to a PC from the above web link. After you do the update, you may have to re-register your PS3 with your Sony Bluetooth BD/DVD Remote, if you have one (go to the PS3's 'Settings' menu then 'Accessory Setting' and then 'Register BD Remote Control'). The discussion thread for the older version 2.4x PS3 firmware is HERE. IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG WITH YOUR PS3 FIRMWARE UPDATE, there were several new PS3 recovery tools added starting with firmware version 2.5x. A new recovery menu gives users access to several restore tools. Among the recovery tools it provides is the ability to re-install a new firmware update, in the event there is an failure/error during the firmware installation process. However, to re-install the firmware you will need to download the firmware on your PC and transfer it a USB flash memory drive as per the instructions provided above. To access the recovery menu (the following info from boardsus.playstation.com), 1. Turn off Playstation 3 2. Hold The power button down; The system will turn on and turn off once again. 3. Once the System has been shutdown, re-press your finger on the power button until you hear 2 consecutive beeps. 4. When you hear the 2 beeps take your finger off the power button. 5. You will be prompted to plug in your controller via usb and then press the PS button on the controller 6. The Recovery menu will pop up. Last edited by Ron Jones; 02-02-10 at 11:46 AM.. Reason: Added infor on the new Blu-ray 3D profile and Sony's plans to update the PS3 |
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For the streaming part you should add Nero vision and Windows Media Player 11 on the PC. Media player has the extra bonus of being able to stream thumbnail of your video to the PS3 but lack the on the fly transcoding capability of TVersity and Nero. Nero do transcode but the media library refresh function is slow as hell. TVersity, especially the latest version is a really nice program that do transcode, stream YouTube and net radio but I wish it would also stream thumbnail for the video.
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Whew! That's a tremendous amount of work and I'm sure it will be very much appreciated. Thanks for tackling the challenge. I've proofed the first part and have a few suggested changes:
Corrections: - (Quick FAQ, turning on/off) Doesn't mention the turning off the PS3 using the XMB - (Quick FAQ, 40 vs. 80GB) Since the newer 80GB models are showing up in stores worldwide, this should probably be updated to point out that only the 80GB Motorstorm and MGS4 bundles had the extra features - (Quick FAQ, audio settings) Since the current firmware has separate settings for optical and HDMI this should probably be reworded. Suggestion: "In most cases the default or automatically detected settings for audio and video are optimal. The defaults for Audio Output Format (HDMI) is Linear PCM, and for Audio Output Format (Optical Digital) is Bitstream. These are the recommended settings." - (Quick FAQ, audio settings) Regarding bistreaming, the mention of of PCM 2-channel is inappropriate as (a) this limit doesn't apply to HDMI and (b) PCM isn't generally considered a bitstreamed format. - (Quick FAQ, audio settings) The statement regarding audio outputs is misleading. The advanced CODECs are indeed supported over all three connection types (HDMI, analog, and optical) but are downmixed to stereo unless you're using HDMI. Over an optical connection the advanced CODECs will only be decoded if the optical output format is set to PCM. Minor corrections: - (Intro) Typo "The old AVS PS3 FAQ thread it ..." should read "The old AVS PS3 FAQ thread is ..." - (Intro) Typo "... with inputs from ..." should read "... with input from ..." - (Quick FAQ, turning on/off) Typo, the word button is misspelled as "botton" - (Quick FAQ, black bars) "... different size rectangles ..." should read "... differently shaped rectangles ..." since aspect ratio has nothing to do with size and this is a point of confusion for some people - (Quick FAQ, CD play) "... it upconverts them ..." should read "... it can upconvert them ..." since this is an optional feature (and isn't enabled by default, if I remember correctly.) |
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This is multiple levels of awesomeness. Thanks for putting it together and adding more to it. May I make a suggestion?
In the Tier Threads there was a link to jump down to Tier 1, 2, 3, etc. Because of the length of the first post, it would be beneficial to some users to add links to varying sections. This way, when people come in the FAQ with a question, people can reply "check the first post" and not be met with "I tried but I couldn't find it and I didn't want to read the whole thing." Links to jump down to Audio, Video, Media Streaming, and various other subsections would be useful if you can do that. Brandon |
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I wish they would let you choose since if I use a HDMI switcher, the PS3 leaves it at 44.1 kHz but if I don't use the switcher it goes at 176.4kHz. I want to be able to force 176.4kHz! |
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Excellent Write-up!
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1080P won't work with PS3
I did a search and did not find an immediate answer to my question. I got a PS3 last night and connected it to my Samsung 58" Plasma (FP-T5884) via HDMI. When the video settings were set to automatic, the screen became snowed and the audio crackled. Same thing happened when manually selecting 1080p. Checking the manual setting for 480, 720, and 1080i without the 1080p box checked works just fine, albeit at a slightly lower resolution I imagine.
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Are you sending 1080p/60 or 1080p/24 to the plasma? Are you sure your plasma accepts either of those as a valid input resolution? Even if your plasma is a 1080p display, not all 1080p displays actually accept 1080p as input. They accept up to 1080i and then de-interlace that internally instead.
If you are sure the plasma will accept 1080p/60 or 1080p/24 (or both) as valid inputs, then the most likely problem is your cable. Some HDMI cable is designed and tested only for use up to normal HDTV bandwidth (1080i/60). Other HDMI cable is designed and tested for 1080p. Same wires, plugs, pinouts and functionality; just better designed and tested. --Bob |
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Your Samsung plasma is spec'ed to accept 1080p/60 and 1080p/24 inputs (but it comverts 1080p/24 back to 1080p/60 for display). Thus it should be compatible with the PS3's 1080p output. HDMI does have some compatibility issues, especially between products from different manufacturers. You can try reversing the order in which you turn on the TV and the PS3. If that doesn't solve the problem, you could try replacing the HDMI cable with a new one that is listed as being HDMI 1.3a certified. Inexpensive ones are available from forum sponsor monoprice.com
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It is a Belkin model # F5D7230-4 According to the Sony S350 manual, it is possible to connect the player wireless.... Thanks. |
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The S350 connectiion discuss should posted in the S350 owners thread not here since it has nothing to do with the PS3 (other than they are both made my Sony).
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Here is a cool question..no not really but a question nonetheless. Anyway, I have PS3 set to LPCM with my onkyo 667 (onkyo 606 relabeled). So I am watching "House: MD" in DVD format. I was told by this post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...7#post14010437) that Dolby EX format should only come up if it is an available track on the DVD you are watching. And I quote from the link above: "You can select a standard listening mode if and only if you're receiving the associated signal type. For instance, you can only select the TrueHD listening mode if you're receiving a TrueHD signal."
So yes, Dolby EX is coming up as an option in my listening modes, but only when watching House, which leads me to believe the above statements are true; that House is the only DVD i have been watching recently that posseses a DOLBY EX track. So now it all makes sense, right? Umm no...because of this: I quote from the first post on this thread http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...hp?t=1058533):"Why doesn't the Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-Master Audio light on my AVR come on when I'm playing BDs with these lossless audio formats? ...Because the PS3 is doing the decoding itself of these advanced audio formats the AVR is always receiving multichannel Linear Pulse Code Modulation (LPCM) from the PS3 when playing such BDs...The AVR may have an indicator showing that the input is PCM, LPCM, MLPCM, or something similar. The AVR would only activate the Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA light if it were doing the decoding." MY DEDUCTION: I realize DOLBY EX is not HD source, but it does not matter. The point here is if my PS3 is set to LPCM, my receiver should not be able to recognize it is getting a DOLBY EX signal, yet it does. According to all the information I provided, my receiver should only be able to detect the DOLBY EX if I set the PS3 to bitstream. Alas, something else is happening. Can anybody explain this? |
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