*Official* Intel G45 DG45ID microATX HTPC Motherboard Thread

[Bjur]

PROBLEM:
I can't get Blu-Ray or HD DVD to show up in either PowerDVD 8 or in Totalmedia.
Have set the PAVP to lite in BIOS. I have updated BIOS from Intels homepage, and installed the newest drivers.
When I run the cyberlink advisor it says fail on Blu-Ray on the following:

NO Graphics Card Driver : 6.14.10.4973 No More Info
UNKNOWN Graphics Card : Intel(R) G45/G43 Express Chipset
NO Video Connection Type : Digital (without HDCP)

http://www.gratisupload.dk/show.php?fileId=15287

The yellow sign I think is because of my FloppyDTV TV tuner.
HELP!!!
I won't work in Total media either.

[Bjur]

Also it says h.264 None
MPEG-2 None
VC-1 None

[BenSanford]

Originally Posted by hackgrid

Hey there,
I am using 3x 1TB in RAID5 mode with the on-board intel raid controller. Is it possible to add 2 x 1TB hdds later to extend the RAID5 without data lost?
Thank you!

It is possible to add more drives to your RAID-5 array, but you will need to back-up the data somewhere (not easy with TB's of data), and then after you have built up your larger RAID-5 array, will need to transfer the old data to it. I think some of the hardware RAID controllers allow expanding an array by just adding a drive and rebuilding the data, but the Intel on-board doesn't have that capability.

I'm recently expanded my Intel MB based RAID-5 array from 4 to 5 drives, and had to go through the backup process. It would have been a lot easier to have made it the larger size to begin with.

Ben

[bondisdead]

Originally Posted by Wo0zy

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...4#post14524224

Might help.

Wo0zy

You are the MAN, WoOzy! :-) The *only* thing I changed was to turn off the VMC sounds, restarted, and all is good now! Very strange that something so simple as VMC sound can prevent video playback. Is this a problem with the Intel HDMI drivers, or a bigger problem with VMC?

Oh, in the advanced properties box for the HDMI Audio device, I had both of the boxes checked for exclusive mode (forget exactly what they said). Is this correct?

Thanks again!

[Wo0zy]

Originally Posted by bondisdead

You are the MAN, WoOzy! :-) The *only* thing I changed was to turn off the VMC sounds, restarted, and all is good now! Very strange that something so simple as VMC sound can prevent video playback. Is this a problem with the Intel HDMI drivers, or a bigger problem with VMC?

Oh, in the advanced properties box for the HDMI Audio device, I had both of the boxes checked for exclusive mode (forget exactly what they said). Is this correct?

Thanks again!

It is a bizzare state of affairs

Somewhere in that thread I did try and explain what I thought MIGHT be happening but why it's happening, I have no idea.

It's definitely a weird "mode switching" issue. Around 50% of the time I can get DVD playback to work with the VMC sounds enabled by switching the AVR off and on again just before playing the movie but the timing has to be spot on.

Still working on it but I suspect this is one problem that MS and Intel will need to get their heads together to resolve. Suggestions that something similar may exist with NVIDIA 8200 platforms makes me think that it may be more of an MS/VMC thing but that's pure speculation.

I intend to experiment with a 4xxx series ATI card next week and see what that does.

Still, glad it helped you a bit

Regarding the "Advanced" settings, the top box must be ticked if you want bitstream through VMC. The second box has no impact either way as far as I can tell.

Wo0zy

[Bjur]

Originally Posted by Bjur

PROBLEM:
I can't get Blu-Ray or HD DVD to show up in either PowerDVD 8 or in Totalmedia.
Have set the PAVP to lite in BIOS. I have updated BIOS from Intels homepage, and installed the newest drivers.
When I run the cyberlink advisor it says fail on Blu-Ray on the following:

NO Graphics Card Driver : 6.14.10.4973 No More Info
UNKNOWN Graphics Card : Intel(R) G45/G43 Express Chipset
NO Video Connection Type : Digital (without HDCP)

http://www.gratisupload.dk/show.php?fileId=15287

The yellow sign I think is because of my FloppyDTV TV tuner.
HELP!!!
I won't work in Total media either.

Can anyone help wth this problem. The motherbard is totally useless if it can't play Blu-Ray and HD DVD!
I'm using XP.

[Übermensch]

Originally Posted by Bjur

PROBLEM:
I can't get Blu-Ray or HD DVD to show up in either PowerDVD 8 or in Totalmedia.
Have set the PAVP to lite in BIOS. I have updated BIOS from Intels homepage, and installed the newest drivers.
When I run the cyberlink advisor it says fail on Blu-Ray on the following:

NO Graphics Card Driver : 6.14.10.4973 No More Info
UNKNOWN Graphics Card : Intel(R) G45/G43 Express Chipset
NO Video Connection Type : Digital (without HDCP)

http://www.gratisupload.dk/show.php?fileId=15287

The yellow sign I think is because of my FloppyDTV TV tuner.
HELP!!!
I won't work in Total media either.

Is the video out from your PC plugged into an AV receiver? It looks like you're just running into the repeater bug that we've all been dealing with for months. So far, WinDVD 9 Plus Blu-ray is the only player that works with G35/G45 and repeaters (AV receivers). You can also use AnyDVD HD as a workaround with PowerDVD and TMT.

Good luck.

[goblin wizard]

Im thinking of buying this motherboard but the blog entry I read about problems with 24fps playback (occasional judder) with G45 makes me hestitant. Therefore I wonder if anyone with a functioning system could perhaps give an objective view of how big this issue is? Is it irritating enough to ruin the enjoyment of a movie or is it a non-issue, hardly noticable?

[Bjur]

Originally Posted by Übermensch

Is the video out from your PC plugged into an AV receiver? It looks like you're just running into the repeater bug that we've all been dealing with for months. So far, WinDVD 9 Plus Blu-ray is the only player that works with G35/G45 and repeaters (AV receivers). You can also use AnyDVD HD as a workaround with PowerDVD and TMT.

Good luck.

Well I have tried both, and I have already AnyDVD HD installed. Now I'm connected directly to my Pioneer, and I still won't have any picture. The only time I have picture, is when I run the Blu-Ray main file from Totalmedia on the HDD then there is picture, but when I have a Blu-ray disc I only have sound

[Aetharyn]

Originally Posted by jabz

Would this mean the board does not support YPbPr component signal, analog video out of the DVI connector?

Also interested in knowing whether this is possible, as I would like to use this board in a HTPC build, but my old (2003) TV only has SCART/component inputs.

[tsb]

Anyone know an alternative place to get the front panel IR transceiver?

Meritline and another site that also ends up being meritline are the only places I can find it. Unfortunately they say it's backordered.

I'd like to get it included in the build the first time.

Thanks

[dj9]

Originally Posted by goblin wizard

Im thinking of buying this motherboard but the blog entry I read about problems with 24fps playback (occasional judder) with G45 makes me hestitant. Therefore I wonder if anyone with a functioning system could perhaps give an objective view of how big this issue is? Is it irritating enough to ruin the enjoyment of a movie or is it a non-issue, hardly noticable?

If you have a display that supports a 24p input and want to use the 24p input to play 24 fps content, you won't like the result with the Intel GPUs as of now. Playback of 24 fps content 60p works fine.

To me, it seems that 24p looks better than 60p on my 120Hz LCD, but it could be all in my head. After all, I've been using LCDs to watch 24 fps content at 60p for two and a half years and I haven't noticed anything wrong while doing so.

[dj9]

I've given up on the integrated graphics on this board for now... the random-line-of-noise on the HDMI/DVI output hasn't gone away, even with four different power supplies (two Seasonic, one Active PFC, one five year old cheapie).

So now, the problem seems to be:
Intel DG45ID + integrated HDMI/DVI output + Samsung LN40A630 = random lines appearing every few seconds for no more than a frame or two

Currently I am using a Radeon HD2400 . I think I'll get one of the new low- to mid-end 4000-series Radeons when they are available.

[viktor965]

Hello Gentlemen,
I have a motherboard DG45IDl. Can anybody explain to me how to install to different resolutions, on two different displays. Please Help Me!

[jim.bennett]

Originally Posted by dj9

I've given up on the integrated graphics on this board for now... the random-line-of-noise on the HDMI/DVI output hasn't gone away, even with four different power supplies (two Seasonic, one Active PFC, one five year old cheapie).

So now, the problem seems to be:
Intel DG45ID + integrated HDMI/DVI output + Samsung LN40A630 = random lines appearing every few seconds for no more than a frame or two

Currently I am using a Radeon HD2400 . I think I'll get one of the new low- to mid-end 4000-series Radeons when they are available.

I am having my share of video output issues also. I am unable to even display the desktop via the HDMI output thru my receiver (works directly connected however) .

[bcc]

So now that windvd has come back from the dead and enabled repeater mode for the g45 I thought I'd give it another try (I never could get windvd8 to do the right thing (tm)). I found that while windvd9 does in fact handshake HDCP thru my denon 1909 receiver, it doesn't allow for switching/hot-plug events. If for example you pause a blu-ray and switch inputs on your receiver, then windvd aborts playback of the movie. When I switch inputs back, windvd chastises: "Your display environment does not support protected content playback". To make matters worse the screen's resolution is warped to an unfriendly resolution like 1600x1200 even though my EDID has no mention of such a resolution. Talk about consumer hostile. I don't know about everyone else but sometimes I get interrupted from a movie and want to leave it paused for an extended period without my plasma burning in the still frame.

Also I've been unable to figure out how to get windvd to playback blu-ray .iso's with either daemon tools or virtual clone drive (both work with arcsoft totalmedia).
I suspect that it's another case of windvd being openly consumer hostile. Anyboyd know a trick to get this to work with windvd? Can windvd not play bd-r disks?

[Wo0zy]

Originally Posted by bcc

So now that windvd has come back from the dead and enabled repeater mode for the g45 I thought I'd give it another try (I never could get windvd8 to do the right thing (tm)). I found that while windvd9 does in fact handshake HDCP thru my denon 1909 receiver, it doesn't allow for switching/hot-plug events. If for example you pause a blu-ray and switch inputs on your receiver, then windvd aborts playback of the movie. When I switch inputs back, windvd chastises: "Your display environment does not support protected content playback". To make matters worse the screen's resolution is warped to an unfriendly resolution like 1600x1200 even though my EDID has no mention of such a resolution. Talk about consumer hostile. I don't know about everyone else but sometimes I get interrupted from a movie and want to leave it paused for an extended period without my plasma burning in the still frame.

This isn't a WinDVD problem. It happens in all playback apps I've tested so far. When switching inputs, your system can lose the EDID which causes the system to set itself to a "random" resolution. Some people report 800x600 others 1600x1200. Obviously the HDMI hanshake is also affected by this hence the reason WinDVD complains.

We've found ways of working around this problem but AFAIK the solution has so far only been tested with VMC. May have some news for you regarding this issue later today.

Edit: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...0#post14527300 may help in the meantime.

Wo0zy.

[Bjur]

Originally Posted by Bjur

PROBLEM:
I can't get Blu-Ray or HD DVD to show up in either PowerDVD 8 or in Totalmedia.
Have set the PAVP to lite in BIOS. I have updated BIOS from Intels homepage, and installed the newest drivers.
When I run the cyberlink advisor it says fail on Blu-Ray on the following:

NO Graphics Card Driver : 6.14.10.4973 No More Info
UNKNOWN Graphics Card : Intel(R) G45/G43 Express Chipset
NO Video Connection Type : Digital (without HDCP)

http://www.gratisupload.dk/show.php?fileId=15287

The yellow sign I think is because of my FloppyDTV TV tuner.
HELP!!!
I won't work in Total media either.

Regarding this problem. Please look at my link which shows my device manager, and tell me if it's normal to have three screens, and two graphic card

I only using 1 HDMI cable between 508XD and HTPC.

http://www.gratisupload.dk/show.php?fileId=15342

[Dumbleweed]

I note from the WINDVD "repeater" press release that they are successfully using an E1200 ($50) with the Gigabyte version of this motherboard for BD playback. Others on this thread are using the E8400 ($170). What are the benefits of using the E8400 over the E1200?

[bcc]

Originally Posted by Wo0zy

This isn't a WinDVD problem. It happens in all playback apps I've tested so far.

For me, the resolution aspect of the problem normally happens very intermittently, but always upon running windvd and switching inputs.

To focus on this one aspect of the problem is missing the point.
The main point is that the claim that windvd fixes the repeater mode issue is incorrect. One still cannot use an a/v receiver in a normal fashion without breaking playback.

Let me put it another way. What kind of implementation of repeater mode would fail to provide for a repeater (receiver) that switches inputs? The HDCP spec certainly addresses hot plug functionality. I hope intel doesn't really consider repeater mode functionality fixed with this implementation that doesn't address user's needs.

[bcc]

As for the persistent screen resolution problems, I hope I can assume intel is working on a fix so that users don't need to hack undocumented registry entries with a 3rd party ap. Why the driver is selecting a resolution my monitor *never* advertised via EDID I really don't understand.

nvidia for a while had a persistent resolution bug a few years ago but at least it would simply select an EDID resolution lower than optimal. That driver was fixed long ago. With current nvidia drivers switching away from the HTPC's video output, or suspend/resume of the htpc doesn't alter the display resolution.

[Wo0zy]

Originally Posted by bcc

As for the persistent screen resolution problems, I hope I can assume intel is working on a fix so that users don't need to hack undocumented registry entries with a 3rd party ap. Why the driver is selecting a resolution my monitor *never* advertised via EDID I really don't understand.

nvidia for a while had a persistent resolution bug a few years ago but at least it would simply select an EDID resolution lower than optimal. That driver was fixed long ago. With current nvidia drivers switching away from the HTPC's video output, or suspend/resume of the htpc doesn't alter the display resolution.

Disabling persistence is a fairly trivial matter with the Intel drivers and I suspect will fix your problem. Combining this with a "fallback" DTD will certainly stop the resolution reset problem. Unfortunately our testing today was sidetracked by other issues so I can’t give you a detailed report of how this fix performs with WinDVD just yet. Hopefully I'll be able to within the next day or so. However, this is not entirely related to the "Repeater Bug" as I’m sure you appreciate.

On a Repeater Bug note, it seems that the latest WinDVD build fixes the issue in our lab when connecting through the first HDMI input ONLY when using an Onkyo 606 AVR. Inputs 2, 3 and 4 still cause playback to fail with an HDCP related error. Interestingly, we've also been testing ATI based systems with the same AVR and they only provide HDMI audio (of any kind) via the first HDMI input (although HDCP errors do not occur with the other inputs). We had thought that this was indicative of an ATI driver problem but this new issue with Intel G45 systems suggests something more complex may be at work. Still investigating.

Wo0zy

[johnbe]

I dropped a Q6600 Chip in my board and it works fine. My processor subscore was 5.9 and on-board graphics was 4.2. The chip is the SLACR version. Just some info for those that were thinking of installing this chip in this board.

[Bjur]

Originally Posted by Bjur

Regarding this problem. Please look at my link which shows my device manager, and tell me if it's normal to have three screens, and two graphic card

I only using 1 HDMI cable between 508XD and HTPC.

http://www.gratisupload.dk/show.php?fileId=15342

Can someone who has DG45ID tjeck their device manager and see if they have two of each like me?
It can't be right that I can't play Blu-ray from disc with a direct HDMI cable from HTPC to Pio plasma.

[jim.bennett]

Originally Posted by Wo0zy

Disabling persistence is a fairly trivial matter with the Intel drivers and I suspect will fix your problem. Combining this with a "fallback" DTD will certainly stop the resolution reset problem. Unfortunately our testing today was sidetracked by other issues so I can’t give you a detailed report of how this fix performs with WinDVD just yet. Hopefully I'll be able to within the next day or so. However, this is not entirely related to the "Repeater Bug" as I’m sure you appreciate.

On a Repeater Bug note, it seems that the latest WinDVD build fixes the issue in our lab when connecting through the first HDMI input ONLY when using an Onkyo 606 AVR. Inputs 2, 3 and 4 still cause playback to fail with an HDCP related error. Interestingly, we've also been testing ATI based systems with the same AVR and they only provide HDMI audio (of any kind) via the first HDMI input (although HDCP errors do not occur with the other inputs). We had thought that this was indicative of an ATI driver problem but this new issue with Intel G45 systems suggests something more complex may be at work. Still investigating.

Wo0zy

Now i remember why I questioned if it was worth it to build another htpc

I have the Onkyo SR-606 and went with the G45 solution instead of ATI 4850 because of the HDMI input 1 only issue. Now the repeater bug strikes again on every input except 1.

Anyone want to buy a Onkyo 606 because it sure seems like everything is pointing at the 606 now.

[hackgrid]

Hi,

thank you for your answers for my last problems!

Does anyone know what the best hardware acceleration app for the DG45ID is atm?

[archibael]

I've had the best experiences with TMT at this point.

[CRTmaster]

Hey guys,

Intel has released new video drivers!
Lets check them out :-)

THX,
crtmaster

[johnbe]

I don't know what is going on with this board but my second went into that funky boot mode where there is no video but it keeps trying to boot. This time my computer froze and I had to reboot by using the power button. When it tried to cycle thru, there was no video. Just turning on and off every few seconds. Tried removing the battery for several hours and no go. Took it back and exchanged it. Hopefully, 3rd time is the charm. Fry's here only has the Intel motherboard so I can't try another model at the moment. Instead of using the Q6600, I decided to put a Q9950 in it and see how it runs. Graphics did go to 4.6 from 4.1. Memory went up slightly. I think the Q6600 is a better value but I assume this will run cooler. Right now you have to put your ear right up to the Antec case to even hear the fans.

[codegrey]

Originally Posted by CRTmaster

Hey guys,

Intel has released new video drivers!
Lets check them out :-)

THX,
crtmaster

This driver doesn't help NTSC or ATSC play back. I've only found two codecs that work with BeyondTV that actually do the de-interlacing, intervideo (WinDVD) and Cyberlink (Power DVD). The WindDVD causes the system to randomly blue screen and reboot. Both codecs play the video back in a jerky manner. This same TV tuner worked fine with an old VAIO box with a NVIDIA GT8600 installed. Come on Intel, I'm talking 480i here, not rocket science.