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UPDATED 11/26/2014 - Official 60-1110 Firmware Released
UPDATED 03/07/2012 - Official 59-0117 Firmware Released
UPDATED 01/23/2012 - Beta 59-0117B Firmware Released
UPDATED 12/21/2011 - Official 58-1215 Firmware Released
UPDATED 11/08/2011 - Beta 57-1026B Firmware Released
UPDATED 03/17/2011 - Official 55-0226 Firmware Released
UPDATED 03/03/2011 - Beta 55-0226B Firmware Released
UPDATED 02/01/2011 - Beta 54-0130B Firmware Released
UPDATED 09/27/2010 - So Long, And Thanks For All the Fish: BDP-83 No Longer Manufactured
UPDATED 08/24/2010 - Beta 52-0816B Firmware Released
UPDATED 05/05/2010 - Official 50-0424 Firmware Released
UPDATED 03/31/2010 - Kalman Rubinson (Stereophile) Review Posted
UPDATED 03/29/2010 - BDP-83 50-0323B Firmware Released
UPDATED 02/17/2010 - Chris Martens (The Perfect Vision) Review Posted (BDP-83SE)
UPDATED 02/13/2010 - Shane Buettner (Home Theater Magazine) Review Posted (BDP-83SE)
UPDATED 02/09/2010 - Chris Martens (The PerfectVision) Review Posted
UPDATED 02/08/2010 - Brian Kahn (HomeTheaterReview.com) Review Posted (BDP-83SE)
UPDATED 01/05/2010 - Official 48-1224 Firmware Released
UPDATED 12/22/2009 - Beta 48-1218B Firmware Released
UPDATED 12/11/2009 - Jim Bray (Technofile) Review Posted
UPDATED 12/07/2009 - Home Theater Review Best of 2009 Awarded
UPDATED 12/05/2009 - John Sunier (Audiofile Audition) Review Posted
UPDATED 10/18/2009 - Danny Philips (TrustedReviews.com) Review Posted
UPDATED 10/16/2009 - Roger Kanno (Home Theater Sound) Review Posted
UPDATED 10/04/2009 - David Mackenzie (AVForums.com) Review Posted
UPDATED 09/30/2009 - Official 40-0925 Firmware Released
UPdATED 09/30/2009 - Andrew Everard (What Hi-Fi?)Review Posted
UPDATED 09/30/2009 - Daniel Philips (techradar.com) Review Posted
UPDATED 09/23/2009 - BuyBlurayPlayers.com Review Posted
UPDATED 09/21/2009 - Michael Wong (AudioEnz) Review Posted
UPDATED 09/21/2009 - Tone Audio Review [Pg 147] Posted
UPDATED 09/09/2009 - Beta 38-0905 Firmware Released
UPDATED 09/04/2009 - Steve Guttenberg (C/NET The Audiophiliac Blog) Posted
UPDATED 09/02/2009 - Matthew Moskovciak (C/NET) Review Posted
UPDATED 09/01/2009 - Kevin Nakano (LA Audio File) Review Posted
UPDATED 08/24/2009 - Tom Jung (Everything Audio Network) Review Posted
UPDATED 08/23/2009 - Peter Putman (HDTV Expert) Review Posted
UPDATED 08/10/2009 - HomeTheaterReview.com Review Posted
UPDATED 08/07/2009 - Josh Zyber (High-Def Digest) Review Posted
UPDATED 08/05/2009 - Experimental 35-0805 Firmware Released
UPDATED 08/03/2009 - Mike Rollet (Projector Reviews) Posted
UPDATED 07/31/2009 - Braden Russell and Ara Derderian Podcast Posted
UPDATED 07/30/2009 - Chris Martens (Playback) Review Posted
UPDATED 07/25/2009 - Stephen Krasowski (E-Gear) Review Posted
UPDATED 07/24/2009 - Beta 34-0722 Firmware Released
UPDATED 07/09/2009 - David Vaughn (Ultimate AV) Review Posted
UPDATED 07/08/2009 - Kris Deering (Home Theater Magazine) Review Posted


Video Specifications
  • Analog Video: Composite, Component Video (Y/Pb/Pr, 480i/480p, 720p/1080i available for non-restricted content; up to 1080i Blu-ray)
  • Digital Video: HDMI with HDCP (NTSC: 480i/480p/720p/1080i/1080p/1080p24, PAL 576i/576p/720p/1080i/1080p/1080p24)
  • ABT2010 de-interlacing and scaling solution (HDMI only)
  • 30 and 36bit Deep Color support

Audio Specifications
  • Analog Audio: 7.1ch or 5.1ch, Dedicated Stereo.
  • D/AC: Two-channel Cirrus CS4398 DAC for Discrete Stereo; Eight-channel CS4382A DAC for Multi-Channel Analog.
  • Digital Audio: Coaxial, Optical
  • HDMI Audio: Stereo to 7.1ch.
  • Bit stream and internal decoding of Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital Plus, Dolby TrueHD, DTS, DTS-HD High Resolution Audio, and DTS-HD Master Audio for HDMI and Analog.
  • SACD DSD bit stream over HDMI or straight to analog; SACD DSD to PCM conversion over HDMI and analog.

Media Compatibility
  • Disc Types: BD-Video, DVD-Video, AVCHD, DVD-Audio, SACD, CD, HDCD, Kodak Picture CD, CD-R/RW, DVD±R/RW, DVD±R DL, BD-R/RE
    (Compatibility with user-encoded contents or user-created discs is on a best effort basis with no guarantee due to the variation of media, software and techniques used.)
  • BD Profile: BD-ROM version 2 Profile 2 (also compatible with Profile 1 version 1.0 and 1.1). 1GB of Internal Storage; External Storage expandable through USB.
  • Dual USB Ports (One in back; one front) for video, audio, picture, and BD-Live expandability.

Unique or Optimized Features
  • PS3 caliber load speeds for BD-Java enabled discs.
  • Resolution, Picture and Audio adjustments can be performed on the fly.
  • Discrete Output Resolution: You can force the player to always output a 480i/p, 720p, 1080i and 1080p 50/60Hz, and 1080p/24Hz (DVD-Video and Blu-ray) video signal.
  • Source Direct: This allows the player to intelligently and automatically change the video output resolution of the player based off of the content source. For example, SD DVD will playback at 480i, Blu-ray will play back at 1080p/24Hz, and DVD-Audio and SACD will playback at 1080i (to ensure maximum audio bandwidth is available). This is ideal for people who use external scalers or do not want the BDP-83 to do any video de-interlacing and scaling.
  • Video Demo Mode: Splits the screen vertically with one half showing the original source image, while the other half shows the results of adjustment to the Edge Enhancement, Detail Enhancement and Noise Reduction controls.
  • Up to 1920x1080 native MPEG-2, AVCHD, MKV and DivX/XviD video support; JPEG and PNG picture support.
  • Fully back-lit remote control
  • Anamorphic lens compatible with constant height Zoom. Other Zoom modes identical to DV-983H
  • Think the BDP-83 is decoding and/or transporting the Lossy Core and not the ideal High Resolution Dolby Digital TrueHD or DTS-HD Master audio streams? Now you can verify this! When you press the "INFO" button on the remote control and look at the icon in the lower left hand corner of your television, if the symbol is a jagged waveform icon, then the player is currently using the Lossy Core for audio decoding and/or transportation. When the player is decoding and/or transporting the High Resolution audio stream the icon should appear as three overlapping circles

General Specifications
  • Power Supply: Power Supply: ~ 100V – 240V, 50/60Hz AC
  • Power Consumption: 35W (0.5W Standby)
  • Dimensions: 430mm x 336mm x 77mm, 16⅞ x 13¼ x 3 inches
  • Mass: 5.1kg / 11.2 lbs
  • Region Enforcement: DVD Region 1 (non-adjustable) and Blu-ray Region A (non-adjustable) Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)Spoiler
    Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)The BDP-83 will support DVD Region 1 and Blu-ray Region A only. The Blu-ray Disc Association does not allow OPPO to support any region unlocking capabilities, even for DVD-Video playback.

    As Blu-ray is a relatively new platform, OPPO wants to make sure they can sell Blu-ray players for many more years to come. They do not want to implement or excise any content control which could jeopardize their standing with the Blu-ray Disc Association.

    These restrictions are non-negotiable. Do not discuss them in the forums.



OPPO BDP-83 User's Manual
Default Settings Checklist
Spears & Munsil High Definition Benchmark User's Guide

REVIEWS
gonk's BDP-83 Review
Gary Murrell (Home Theater Forum)
Bill Graw (Enjoy The Music)
Robert Silva (About.com)
John Sunier (Audiophile Audition)
Thomas Spurlin (Audio|Video Revolution)
Clint DeBoer (Audioholics)
clayswartz@comca (OPPO Versus Thread)
Adrian Wittenberg (Secrets of Home Theater and High Fidelity)
Wes Marshall (SoundStageAV) (Reviewer's Choice)
Kris Deering (Home Theater Magazine) (Top Pick) (Product of the Year)
David Vaughn (Ultimate AV)
Stephen Krasowski (E-Gear)
Chris Martens (Playback) (Playback Recommended 2009)
Braden Russell and Ara Derderian Podcast
Mike Rollet (Projector Reviews) (ProjectorsReview.com Special Interest Award)
Josh Zyber (High-Def Digest)
HomeTheaterReview.com
Peter Putman (HDTV Expert)
Tom Jung (Everything Audio Network)
Kevin Nakano (LA Audio File)
Matthew Moskovciak (C/NET) - 4.5/5
Steve Guttenberg (C/NET The Audiophiliac Blog)
Tone Audio[Pg 147]
Michael Wong (AudioEnz)
BuyBlurayPlayers.com
Daniel Philips (techradar.com)
Andrew Everard (What Hi-Fi?)
David Mackenzie (AVForums.com) (Highly Recommended)
Roger Kanno (Home Theater Sound)
Danny Philips (TrustedReviews.com)
John Sunier (Audiofile Audition)
Home Theater Review Best of 2009 Awarded
Jim Bray (Technofile)
Brian Kahn (HomeTheaterReview.com) (BDP-83SE)
Chris Martens (The PerfectVision)
Shane Buettner (Home Theater Magazine) (BDP-83SE)
Chris Martens (The Perfect Vision) (BDP-83SE)
Kalman Rubinson (Stereophile)


FIRMWARE RELEASES

Release date: May 4, 2009.
Category: First Firmware Release
Main Version: BDP83-22-0430
Loader Version: BE23F3 857523F3
Sub Version: MCU83-22-0410

Release date: June 26, 2009
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP83-31-0620
Loader Version: BE2403 85752403
Sub Version: MCU83-23-0513
Release Notes:

The major changes included in this version are:

1. Further improvement to DVD-Audio disc compatibility and navigation.
2. Fix for the issue of losing audio at certain DVD-Audio track/chapter transitions, such as "The Beatles – Love".
3. Additional on-screen audio information display for DVD-Audio: sample rate in addition to channels and format.
4. Support for viewing static pictures on DVD-Audio discs using the PAGE UP and PAGE DOWN remote control buttons.
5. Compatibility improvement for user-encoded DVD-Audio discs.
6. A two-tiered rotation speed control for DVD media: normal speed for DVD-Video/DVD-Audio and increased speed for AVCHD on DVD media. This change is to support the occasional peaks of bit rate required by the AVCHD programs.
7. Improved detection of 4:3 aspect ratio bonus material on Blu-ray Discs.
8. DVD subtitle quality improvement (sync subtitle to frame). Combing of film-based DVD subtitle should be eliminated.
9. Improved remote control response for SACD in fast forwarding or fast rewinding mode.
10. Support for bitstream output of HDCD
11. Adjustment to the sensitivity of the front panel EJECT and POWER buttons.
12. Improvement for handling chapter breaks on DVD. This revision passes the Microsoft WHQL DVD 3:2 Chapter PF False test.
13. Improvement for DVD navigation.
14. Fix for the issue of not able to set a manual IP address when the network cable is connected and there is no DHCP server on the network.
15. Fix for the issue of angle icon appearing when the setup menu option "Angle Mark" is set to off.
16. Fix for the issue of subwoofer trim setting not applied after power cycle.
17. Other general disc compatibility and performance improvements.

Bonuses: Undocumented, no guarantee features and enhancements:

1. Fix for the Rice Krispie "Snap, Crackle, and Pops" of SACD playback.
2. Pressing the YELLOW button during DVD-Video to access the main feature no longer causes subtitles to turn on by default.

Release date: July 24, 2009
Category: Public Beta Release
Main Version: BDP83-34-0722 [Outdated by BDP-35-0805 Firmware]
Loader Version: BE2403 85752403
Sub Version: MCU83-23-0513
Release Notes:

1. Blu-ray Disc compatibility improvement, especially for certain titles such as "12 Rounds" and "The Haunting in Connecticut".
2. Additional "Deep Color" options utilizing dithering. If the display does not support 36-bit deep color, dithering 36-bit to 30-bit or 24-bit may produce an image that is visually smoother than rounding 36-bit to 30- or 24-bit.
3. Improved precision for color space conversion.
4. Improved upconversion for MKV files that have a picture size smaller than 1280x720 with 24fps frame rate.
5. Improvement for DVD navigation.
6. Other general disc compatibility and performance improvements.

Release date: August 5, 2009
Category: Experimental Release
Main Version: BDP83-36-0805
Loader Version: BE2403 85752403
Sub Version: MCU83-23-0513
Release Notes:

1. Blu-ray Disc compatibility improvement, especially for certain titles such as "Dollhouse Season 1", "12 Rounds" and "The Haunting in Connecticut".
2. Additional "Deep Color" options utilizing dithering. If the display does not support 36-bit deep color, dithering 36-bit to 30-bit or 24-bit may produce an image that is visually smoother than rounding 36-bit to 30- or 24-bit.
3. Improved precision for color space conversion.
4. Improved up-conversion for MKV files that have a picture size smaller than 1280x720 with 24fps frame rate.
5. Improvement for DVD navigation.
6. Fix for the issue of not being able to reset factory default settings introduced in the 34-0722 beta firmware.
7. Fix for the PAL DVD picture quality issue introduced in the 34-0722 beta firmware. The issue looks like a de-interlacing error but is caused by the decoder chip, not the de-interlacer.
8. New pop-up user interface for audio and subtitle selection.
9. Improved GOTO function for music file playback. The GOTO function now allows the user to jump to a certain time point within a music file.
10. Other general disc compatibility and performance improvements.

Release date: September 9, 2009
Category: Public Beta Release
Main Version: BDP83-38-0905
Loader Version: BE2600 or BT0300
Sub Version: MCU83-24-0630
Release Notes:

See 40-0925 Firmware Release Notes

Known Issue:
After selecting "Reset Factory Defaults" from the "Device Setup" menu, the player may lose video output and stop responding to remote control. Should this happen, please turn off the player, turn it back on, enter the setup menu, and select "Device Setup" - "Persistent Storage" - "Erase BD-Video Data". This should clear the error condition and allow you to reset factory default settings.
Release date: September 30, 2009
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP83-40-0925
Loader Version: BE2600 or BT0300
Sub Version: MCU83-24-0630
Release Notes:

1. Blu-ray Disc compatibility improvement, especially for certain titles such as "X-Men Origins: Wolverine", "Lie to Me", "Dollhouse Season 1", "12 Rounds" and "The Haunting in Connecticut".
2. Additional "Deep Color" options utilizing dithering. If the display does not support 36-bit deep color, dithering 36-bit to 30-bit or 24-bit may produce an image that is visually smoother than rounding 36-bit to 30- or 24-bit.
3. Improved precision for color space conversion.
4. Improved up-conversion for MKV files that have a picture size smaller than 1280x720 with 24fps frame rate.
5. Improvement for DVD-A disc compatibility. The specific titles targeted include "Beck: Sea Change" and DVD-A discs released in Japan by JVC.
6. Improvement for DVD navigation.
7. Improvement for compatibility with Denon receivers that only acquire 2ch DSD signal upon initial playback of a SACD multi-channel disc.
8. Improvement for compatibility with receivers that show "no signal" but play audio when a CD is played using HDMI bitstream output mode.
9. Fix for the issue of subtitle being cut off when playing a PAL DVD.
10. New pop-up user interface for audio and subtitle selection.
11. Improved GOTO function for music file playback. The GOTO function now allows the user to jump to a certain time point within a music file.
12. Other general disc compatibility and performance improvements. The specific titles targeted include the CD "The Saturday Nite Agenda", DVD "IL DIVO - Live at the Greek Theater", Blu-ray "Fired Up" and a few other discs.

Release date: December 22, 2009 [REPLACED BY 48-1224]
Category: Public Beta Version
Main Version: BDP83-48-1218B
Loader Version: BE2650 or BT0350
Sub Version: MCU83-25-0811
Release Notes:

1. Blu-ray Disc compatibility improvement, especially for certain titles such as the European version of "Terminator Salvation", Indican's "The Wonder of It All", and "(500) Days of Summer" from Fox.
2. Subtitle shift feature. During playback, press and hold the "SUBTITLE" button to activate the function and then use up/down arrow buttons to move the subtitle. The shift position is saved in the "Video Setup" - "Display Options" section of the setup menu. This feature is useful for customers with 2.35:1 projection screens.
3. OSD position feature. The OSD (On-Screen Display) can be moved to work together with the subtitle shift feature. There is a new setup menu item in the "Video Setup" - "Display Options" section for this.
4. Auto mode for HDMI Audio format. The new "Auto" mode enables the player to use bitstream audio output for audio formats that are supported by the A/V receiver, and LPCM for formats that cannot be decoded by the A/V receiver.
5. Setup menu changes. Some items are re-grouped into the "Display Options" sub-menu under "Video Setup". Some items are re-ordered in the menu structure to improve the ease of use.
6. Experimental feature - home network streaming. This feature can be accessed from the "My Network" icon in the "Home Menu" screen. It requires a DLNA-capable media server running on your computer. The supported media types are the common set of what the player can decode and what the media server can stream.
7. Experimental Feature - BluTV. This is an interactive television service that will initially feature channels such as casual games, widgets and movie art. To use this feature, the "BD-Live Network Access" item in the "Network Setup" section and the "Secondary Audio" item in the "Audio Format Setup" section of the player's setup menu must be turned on.

Release date: March 29, 2010
Category: Public Beta Version
Main Version: BDP83-50-0323B
Loader Version: BE2690 or BT0390
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326
Release Notes:

This public beta version works for both the standard BDP-83 and the BDP-83 Special Edition. Comparing to the official release version BDP83-48-1224, the major changes included in this version are:

1. When there is no disc playing, the player shows the OPPO background screen instead of the "Home Menu". The "Home Menu" can be accessed by pressing the "Home" button on the remote control.
2. Improvement to MKV compatibility. Some MKV files do not play or play with severe video artifacts when using previous firmware. This version improves the playback of such files.
3. Some users have reported hearing pops or crackles between SACD tracks. This issue happens to certain discs that have data frames that are not aligned with track boundaries. This version removes such pops or crackles.
4. Other general disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.

Release date: May 5, 2010
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP83-50-0424
Loader Version: BE2710 or BT0410
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326
Release Notes:

1. Traditional splash screen. When there is no disc playing, the player shows the OPPO background screen instead of the "Home Menu". The "Home Menu" can be accessed by pressing the "Home" button on the remote control.
2. Improvement to MKV compatibility. Some MKV files do not play or play with severe video artifacts when using previous firmware. This version improves the playback of such files.
3. Fix for the SACD pops/crackles issue. Some users have reported hearing pops or crackles between SACD tracks. This issue happens to certain discs that have data frames that are not aligned with track boundaries. This version removes such pops or crackles.
4. Revision of the RS-232 control protocol. If the player is equipped with the RS-232 wired control option, the new protocol adds three verbose modes to enable command echo back, automatic status update and automatic program counter update. For a complete list of RS-232 protocols please refer to the OPPO BDP-83 RS-232 Control Protocol V2 document.
5. Improved volume control function for the analog audio output. Volume control was previously implemented using the DSP (Digital Signal Processor). This version utilizes the DAC (Digital to Analog Converter) chips to perform volume control. This change brings the following benefits:
* Fix for the subwoofer hum that happens when the player's volume is set to less than 100 while outputting SACD in DSD format over HDMI
* Volume control in DSD mode for SACD. Previously volume control does not work for DSD mode. With this version, all analog audio outputs of the BDP-83SE and the dedicated stereo output of the BDP-83 can apply volume control in DSD mode.
6. Fix for a compatibility issue with Sherwood Newcastle R774 A/V receiver. The issue was no audio signal over HDMI when playing a CD.
7. Other general disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted disc samples.
8. Minor changes to BD-Live and BD-Java behavior. Erasing the persistent storage from the setup menu now erases both downloaded BD-Live contents and Java-based bookmarks. BD-Live access is set to off after resetting factory default settings. If you prefer to have BD-Live access, please turn it on from the setup menu.

Release date: August 24, 2010
Category: Public Beta Version
Main Version: BDP83-52-0816B
Loader Version: BE2731 or BT0431
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326
Release Notes:

1. A small number of Blu-ray discs with Dolby TrueHD audio exhibit a momentary audio drop-out issue if the player is connected to an A/V receiver via HDMI and bitstream is selected as the HDMI Audio format. This version fixes the issue.
2. Certain SACD discs with many short tracks or with a long track following several short tracks can cause the player to freeze during playback. This version fixes the issue.
3. The previous firmware version displays the time counter slightly too fast when playing SACD. This version fixes the issue.
4. Support for LPCM audio streaming over home network is restored. The previous firmware did not carry this feature over from older versions. Please note that home network streaming is an experimental feature. You will need a computer running UPnP or DLNA streaming server software that can support transcoding to LPCM in order to use this feature.
5. Fix for the issue of incorrect video size when playing some Blu-ray discs, such as “Patton”.
6. Other general disc and media file compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples.

Known Bug:
1. SACD snaps, crackles, and pops between audio tracks are re-introduced into the firmware. There is no solution other than reverting to the previous 50-0424 Firmware.
2. Incorrect Aspect Ratio for external media. If the "Primary Output" is set to HDMI and the Aspect Ratio is set to "16:9 Wide/Auto", then the player will pillarbox all external media.
a. The solution is to either set Primary Output to "Component" or TV Aspect Ratio to "16:9 Wide" under Video Setup. Note: setting Primary Output to "Component" will degrade DVD picture performance.

Release date: February 1, 2011
Category: Public Beta Version
Main Version: BDP83-54-0130B
Loader Version: BE2731 or BT0431
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326
Release Note:

1. Certain SACD discs with many short tracks or with a long track following several short tracks can cause the player to freeze during playback. This version fixes the issue. The crackles and pops that happened occasionally between tracks on some discs are also eliminated.
2. Fix for the issue of incorrect video size when playing some Blu-ray discs, such as "Patton", "Time Bandits" and "Date Night".
3. A small number of Blu-ray discs with Dolby TrueHD audio exhibit a momentary audio drop-out issue if the player is connected to an A/V receiver via HDMI and bitstream is selected as the HDMI Audio format. This version fixes the issue.
4. Support for LPCM audio streaming over home network is restored. The previous firmware did not carry this feature over from older versions. Please note that home network streaming is an experimental feature. You will need a computer running UPnP or DLNA streaming server software that can support transcoding to LPCM in order to use this feature.
5. The previous firmware version displays the time counter slightly too fast when playing SACD. This version fixes the issue.
6. Other general disc and media file compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples.

Things still broken:
1. BD-LIVE and Persistent Storage Corruptions: This will be fixed in another firmware release. OPPO has isolated the cause of these errors and is committed to eradicating them.
2. Incorrect Aspect Ratio for MKV Files: The player will still not properly display 4:3 MKV media correctly. Set Primary Output to "Component" to resolve this error.
3. Non-Locked 24Hz MKV Treated as 1080i: This too will hopefully be corrected.
4. DLNA still does not support DivX/XviD streaming.
5. Toy Story 3's 7.1 DTS-HD Master soundtrack is still decoded incorrectly.

Release date: March 3, 2011
Category: Public Beta Test Version
Main Version: BDP83-55-0226B
Loader Version: BE2731 or BT0431
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326

1.Certain SACD discs with many short tracks or with a long track following several short tracks can cause the player to freeze during playback. This version fixes the issue. The crackles and pops that happened occasionally between tracks on some discs are also eliminated.
2.Fix for the issue of incorrect video size when playing some Blu-ray discs, such as "Patton", "Time Bandits" and "Date Night".
3.A small number of Blu-ray discs with Dolby TrueHD audio exhibit a momentary audio drop-out issue if the player is connected to an A/V receiver via HDMI and bitstream is selected as the HDMI Audio format. This version fixes the issue.
4.Support for LPCM audio streaming over home network is restored. The previous firmware did not carry this feature over from older versions. Please note that home network streaming is an experimental feature. You will need a computer running UPnP or DLNA streaming server software that can support transcoding to LPCM in order to use this feature.
5.The previous firmware version displays the time counter slightly too fast when playing SACD. This version fixes the issue.
6.The Dolby TrueHD channel mapping problem for LPCM and analog output introduced in the previous public beta firmware (not affecting the official release version) has been fixed.
7.Other general disc and media file compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples.

Known Bug: MKV files which are not exactly 16:9 may show up as the incorrect aspect ratio. The solution is to set Primary Output to "Component" to force the decoder to perform the aspect ratio controls. Note: setting Primary Output to "Component" will degrade DVD picture performance, so you will want to set Primary Output back to "HDMI" whenever you watch DVD-Videos.

Release date: March 17, 2011
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP83-55-0226
Loader Version: BE2800 or BT0500
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326

1.Certain SACD discs with many short tracks or with a long track following several short tracks can cause the player to freeze during playback. This version fixes the issue. The crackles and pops that happened occasionally between tracks on some discs are also eliminated.
2. Fix for the issue of incorrect video size when playing some Blu-ray discs, such as "Patton", "Time Bandits" and "Date Night".
3. A small number of Blu-ray discs with Dolby TrueHD audio exhibit a momentary audio drop-out issue if the player is connected to an A/V receiver via HDMI and bitstream is selected as the HDMI Audio format. This version fixes the issue.
4. Support for LPCM audio streaming over home network is restored. The previous firmware did not carry this feature over from older versions. Please note that home network streaming is an experimental feature. You will need a computer running UPnP or DLNA streaming server software that can support transcoding to LPCM in order to use this feature.
5. The previous firmware version displays the time counter slightly too fast when playing SACD. This version fixes the issue.
6. Quieter laser head movement for CD playback.
7. Other general disc and media file compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming Blu-ray releases as well as user-submitted samples.

Known Bug: MKV files which are not exactly 16:9 may show up as the incorrect aspect ratio. The solution is to set Primary Output to "Component" to force the decoder to perform the aspect ratio controls. Note: setting Primary Output to "Component" will degrade DVD picture performance, so you will want to set Primary Output back to "HDMI" whenever you watch DVD-Videos.

Release date: November 8, 2011
Category: Public Beta Test Version
Main Version: BDP83-57-1026B
Loader Version: BE2800 or BT0500
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326

1. Resolved the disc loading issue reported on several recently released DVD movies. These DVD discs come with their Blu-ray package and sample titles include "True Grit", "Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon" and "Pirates of the Caribbean 4: On Stranger Tides". The reason for this issue is related to the new anti-copy strategy implemented on these DVDs which keeps BDP-83 searching for non-existing contents. This problem has been solved.
2. Other general disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming releases. Sample titles included "Rory Gallagher: Live in Montreaux (DVD)", "Avatar" (Blu-ray included in the Panasonic 3D Kit Bundle), "OTAKU (DVD)", "Fantasia 2000 (BD, European version)", "Alban Berg Quartet: Beethoven String Quartets, Vol. 1 (DVD-A)" and "Live! (DVD, 2007)".

Release date: December 21, 2011.
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP83-58-1215
Loader Version: BE2800 or BT0500
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326

1. Resolved the disc loading issue reported on several recently released DVD movies. These DVD discs come with their Blu-ray package and sample titles include "True Grit", "Transformers 3: Dark of the Moon" and "Pirates of the Caribbean 4: On Stranger Tides". The reason for this issue is related to the new anti-copy strategy implemented on these DVDs which keeps BDP-83 searching for non-existing contents. This problem has been solved.
2. Other general disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming releases. Sample titles included "Rory Gallagher: Live in Montreaux (DVD)", "Avatar" (Blu-ray included in the Panasonic 3D Kit Bundle), "OTAKU (DVD)", "Fantasia 2000 (BD, European version)", "Alban Berg Quartet: Beethoven String Quartets, Vol. 1 (DVD-A)" and "Live! (DVD, 2007)".

All features and improvements of the previous firmware are also included in this version.

Release date: January 23, 2012. Replaced by Official 59-0117 Firmware March 06, 2012.
Category: Latest Public Beta Release
Main Version: BDP83-59-0117B
Loader Version: BE2800 or BT0500
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326

1. Resolved the random image freezing issue observed on several Warner Brothers Blu-ray movies. The problem happens when "BD-Live Network Access" is set to "ON" in the player's setup menu. Sample titles include "Sex and the City 2 (BD, 2011)" and "Inception (BD, 2011)". This issue has been resolved in this release.
2. Resolved the loading failure issue observed on several recently-released Blu-ray series, including "Fringe" (Season 3, 2011), "Chuck" (Season 4, 2011), "Dexter" (Season 5, 2011), "Star Wars" and "Lord of the Rings". Normally, these movies can be played with no problems when initially loaded. However, if disc playback has been stopped or the disc ejected, the disc would fail to load again the next it is played. The TV would get a black screen and the front panel display would remain at 00:00:00. The cause of this error is related to the discs' resume function implemented in BD-Java. This firmware properly handles the resume function.
3. Other general disc compatibility improvement based on recent and upcoming releases. Sample titles include "Contagion (BD, 2012)" and "Mildred Pierce (BD, 2012)".

Release date: November 26, 2014
Category: Latest Official Release
Main Version: BDP83-60-1110
Loader Version: BE2800 or BT0500
Sub Version: MCU83-27-0326

1. Resolved a disc loading failure issue with the "X-Men: Days of Future Past (BD)" released by 20th Century Fox.Customers reported that after inserting the Blu-ray disc, the player would report "Wrong Disc" error and eject the disc. This is caused by the new "BD+" protocol (or Digital Rights Protection system) applied to this title which requires longer decryption time than the value allowed by the player. This firmware adjusted the decryption time and resolved this issue.


FIRMWARE INSTRUCTIONS
VIA USB
1. Download the latest firmware release
2. Insert a USB thumb drive to the computer that stores the downloaded zip file, and unzip the firmware file to the USB drive. Verify that the USB drive now contains a UPG folder, and inside the UPG folder there are three files: BDP-83.bin, DVD.BIN and MCU83-1.BIN.
3. Remove the USB drive from the computer.
4. Turn on your TV display and the OPPO player. Make sure that there is no disc in the player and no other USB device is connected to the player.
5. Insert the USB drive containing the firmware file to a USB port on the player's front or back panel.
6. The player usually can recognize the firmware file and prompt you for firmware upgrade. In case the player does not prompt you, press the SETUP button on the remote control to enter the setup menu. Select Device Setup, Firmware Upgrade, and then Via USB.
7. Please follow the on-screen instructions to complete the firmware upgrade process.
8. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO TURN OFF THE PLAYER, UNPLUG THE POWER, OR PRESS ANY BUTTONS OTHER THAN NECESSARY TO RESPOND TO THE ON-SCREEN PROMPT DURING THE REMAINING UPGRADE PROCESS.
9. In order to complete the firmware upgrade process, the player will turn off automatically. Unplug the USB drive after the player turns itself off.
10. Turn on the player again after the firmware upgrade process is completed. Press the SETUP button on the remote control to enter the setup menu. Select Device Setup, Reset Factory Default, and then choose OK to reset the player settings. Enter your customized settings as necessary after resetting.
11. Check the new firmware version by going to the setup menu, and then selecting Device Setup - Firmware Information. If you notice that the firmware versions displayed do not match the versions listed in this release note, please retry the firmware upgrade procedure from step 4 to ensure all parts of the firmware package are installed. Early production models (not sold to retail customers) do not have an upgradeable MCU so the MCU firmware upgrade will fail. This is normal for units with serial number "E202..." .
12. Congratulations! You have just completed the firmware upgrade. Delete the UPG folder and its content from the USB drive so you do not accidentally install the firmware again.

VIA CD
1. If you requested a firmware CD from OPPO customer service, jump to step 5 of this procedure. You may also follow steps 2 - 4 to burn a firmware CD.
2. Download the latest firmware release.
3. Unzip the firmware file to the hard disk of the computer. Once unzipped, there should be a UPG folder, and inside the UPG folder there are three files: BDP-83.bin, DVD.BIN and MCU83-1.BIN. Note the location of the UPG folder.
4. Use your favorite CD/DVD burning software to create a new data disc. Put the UPG folder and its content onto the newly created data disc, and burn the disc to a CD or DVD recordable media. After the disc is burned, verify on the computer that the disc now contains a UPG folder, and inside the UPG folder there are three files: BDP-83.bin, DVD.BIN and MCU83-1.BIN. This is your firmware disc.
5. Turn on your TV display and the OPPO player. Make sure that there is no disc in the player and no USB device is connected to the player.
6. Eject the disc tray, put in the firmware disc, and then close the tray. The player usually can recognize the firmware disc and prompt you for firmware upgrade. In case the player does not prompt you, press the SETUP button on the remote control to enter the setup menu. Select Device Setup, Firmware Upgrade, and then Via Disc.
7. Please follow the on-screen instructions to complete the firmware upgrade process. Remove the disc from the tray when the tray ejects out.
8. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO CLOSE THE DISC TRAY, TURN OFF THE PLAYER, UNPLUG THE POWER, OR PRESS ANY BUTTONS OTHER THAN NECESSARY TO RESPOND TO THE ON-SCREEN PROMPT DURING THE REMAINING UPGRADE PROCESS.
9. In order to complete the firmware upgrade process, the player will turn off automatically.
10. Turn on the player again after the firmware upgrade process is completed. Press the SETUP button on the remote control to enter the setup menu. Select Device Setup, Reset Factory Default, and then choose OK to reset the player settings. Enter your customized settings as necessary after resetting.
11. Check the new firmware version by going to the setup menu, and then selecting Device Setup - Firmware Information. If you notice that the firmware versions displayed do not match the versions listed in this release note, please retry the firmware upgrade procedure from step 5 to ensure all parts of the firmware package are installed. Early production models (not sold to retail customers) do not have an upgradeable MCU so the MCU firmware upgrade will fail. This is normal for units with serial number "E202..." .
12. Congratulations! You have just completed the firmware upgrade. Erase or discard the firmware disc so you do not accidentally install the firmware again.

VIA ETHERNET
1. Press Eject. If you have Firmware Notifications (Device Setup) set to ON, the player will inform you of a new firmware release. Skip to Step 4.
2. With no disc in the player press Setup.
3. Select Device Setup then Firmware Upgrade then Via Ethernet.
4. Please follow the on-screen instructions to complete the firmware upgrade process.
5. DO NOT ATTEMPT TO TURN OFF THE PLAYER, UNPLUG THE POWER, OR PRESS ANY BUTTONS OTHER THAN NECESSARY TO RESPOND TO THE ON-SCREEN PROMPT DURING THE REMAINING UPGRADE PROCESS.
6. Turn on the player again after the firmware upgrade process is completed. Press the SETUP button on the remote control to enter the setup menu. Select Device Setup, Reset Factory Default, and then choose OK to reset the player settings. Enter your customized settings as necessary after resetting.
7. Check the new firmware version by going to the setup menu, and then selecting Device Setup - Firmware Information. If you notice that the firmware versions displayed do not match the versions listed in this release note, please retry the firmware upgrade procedure from step 5 to ensure all parts of the firmware package are installed. Early production models (not sold to retail customers) do not have an upgradeable MCU so the MCU firmware upgrade will fail. This is normal for units with serial number "E202..." .
8. Congratulations! You have just completed the firmware upgrade. Erase or discard the firmware disc so you do not accidentally install the firmware again.
 
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#23,681 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by jruser /forum/post/17436913


I just ordered this player. From the amount of complaining I hope I won't regret it.


I will use it for SACD, DVD, and Blu-ray. I don't care about any streaming or USB file playback.


I currently do SACD and Blu-ray on a PS3 (fat) and DVD on a HTPC. All will be running through Onkyo TX-SR805 (which goes to 52inch XBR4).

With just about all things that people spend money on, you'll hear a lot more about any problems than you'll ever hear about the positives. I manage a retail Contractor oriented business, and the old saying is that if someone has a bad experience with you, they'll tell five people. If they have a good experience, you'll be lucky if they tell one.


I've had the Oppo since it was released to the public, and have been nothing but pleased with it for music and movies, more and more after each firmware update. Today I don't have any issues with it to speak of.
 
#23,683 ·
I just had my player freeze on twice in the last five days during the power up when you get the Hello on the screen. I have to hold down the power button for a few seconds in order to unfreeze the player. It works once I power it down. By the way there is no disc in the player when this happens. Has anyone had the same issue?
 
#23,686 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by bori /forum/post/17437048


I just had my player freeze on twice in the last five days during the power up when you get the Hello on the screen. I have to hold down the power button for a few seconds in order to unfreeze the player. It works once I power it down. By the way there is no disc in the player when this happens. Has anyone had the same issue?

I had it happen several times with the latest firmware. I contacted Oppo support and even though I had deleted persistant storage and reset to factory default they recommended reinstalling the firmware. I reinstalled the firmware as well as the loader and MCU and haven't had a problem so far, going on 2 weeks now.
 
#23,687 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by subavision212 /forum/post/17437604


same here. nothing but pristine audio and a gorgeous picture.
Quote:
Originally Posted by grubavs /forum/post/17436780


I can tell you I watched it via HDMI and had no audio artifacts whatsoever.

Hmm... I don't know WHAT to make of this, then. Could my individual copy of THE GODFATHER be bad? I'm hearing the distracting low rumbles thru coaxial and analog... so it's not just 'cuz I'm using crappy old coaxial signal; it's thru TWO entirely different outputs. Maybe I'll write to Oppo and see what they think, and in the meantime I'll Netflix another copy to check (although I highly doubt it's my copy; how could that even happen with digital media?)


Can anyone actually cue up the scene I've referenced in my previous post and check? Maybe also check thru analog outs, even if you do most of your movie-watching with HDMI?
 
#23,688 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by bori /forum/post/17437048


I just had my player freeze on twice in the last five days during the power up when you get the Hello on the screen. I have to hold down the power button for a few seconds in order to unfreeze the player. It works once I power it down. By the way there is no disc in the player when this happens. Has anyone had the same issue?

Sounds like you're describing a boot failure, where the front panel displays "HELLO" and sticks there. This has sometimes been associated with power-on when no HDMI connection is active. (connected but display or AVR is not on).

Might also be related to booting with a disc in the drive. It seems to vary with different systems, and is or will be addressed in FW updates. Should resolve simply by hitting the power button on the remote, but you'll have to wait a bit for it to do so. And the next power-on should be normal.
 
#23,690 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by bakerwi /forum/post/17433143


kutlow,


I'm pretty sure Jeff Meier is a fine calibrator, but his word or findings amongst many is not the gospel. Actually, his comments have me scratching my head since there are many reviewers as well as owners with professionally calibrated displays that beg to differ.



Respectfully,

Willie

I have personally met UMR and have compared on site equipment and results with UMR, and I can say for sure his very high end meter and pattern generator blows my calibration equipment away.

Mr. Meier uses the same meter that the majority of pro calibrators use to get very close, and that I also use. I1Pro. However he has a very high end meter that he use to get his calibration settings spot on along with his pattern generator. I am being very vague about what he actuality does, for the simply reason I don't want to give any of his tricks to the art away.

I worked side by side with Mr. Meier on my 141. His results were very close to mine using the I1pro, but were he surpassed me was when he used his high end meter. Not only did his calibration reports edge me out, but also where it really counts in the visuals.

I am not saying the difference was big, but enough that I could appreciate.


And I would agree about what Mr. Meier said about the Oppo, that's why I have the Oppo and my BD-09 in my rack. And that's why I change my posted settings for the Oppo when new software comes out.


That said, I would also add that there are also some other fine calibrators out there, the first that comes to mind is D-Nice.


ss
 
#23,692 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by sillysally /forum/post/17438108


I have personally met UMR and have compared on site equipment and results with UMR, and I can say for sure his very high end meter and pattern generator blows my calibration equipment away.

Mr. Meier uses the same meter that the majority of pro calibrators use to get very close, and that I also use. I1Pro. However he has a very high end meter that he use to get his calibration settings spot on along with his pattern generator. I am being very vague about what he actuality does, for the simply reason I don't want to give any of his tricks to the art away.

I worked side by side with Mr. Meier on my 141. His results were very close to mine using the I1pro, but were he surpassed me was when he used his high end meter. Not only did his calibration reports edge me out, but also where it really counts in the visuals.

I am not saying the difference was big, but enough that I could appreciate.


And I would agree about what Mr. Meier said about the Oppo, that's why I have the Oppo and my BD-09 in my rack. And that's why I change my posted settings for the Oppo when new software comes out.


That said, I would also add that there are also some other fine calibrators out there, the first that comes to mind is D-Nice.


ss

sillysally,

Based on your own experience, what do you think the drawbacks to calibration that Oppo has?
 
#23,693 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by venkatesh_m /forum/post/17438715


sillysally,

Based on your own experience, what do you think the drawbacks to calibration that Oppo has?

First understand that nobody is saying the BD-83 is hopeless.


UMR has touched on the flaws of the BD-83. But also understand that imo these flaws will not be noticeable by the majority of users. Only the fanatics like me.

I have been mostly able to over come any flaws that I perceive by adjusting contrast, sharpness, enhancer mode, using CS 4:2:2 and Deep Color Off (Dithered) with my Kuro 141. Plus a power cord and a HDMI cable tweak.


ss
 
#23,694 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by jruser /forum/post/17436913


I just ordered this player. From the amount of complaining I hope I won't regret it.


I will use it for SACD, DVD, and Blu-ray. I don't care about any streaming or USB file playback.


I currently do SACD and Blu-ray on a PS3 (fat) and DVD on a HTPC. All will be running through Onkyo TX-SR805 (which goes to 52inch XBR4).

jruser,


I've owned my player since March and it has worked without incident.
What ever problems perceived or real is probably being posted over and over by the same posters so it seems like there are more problems then there actually are. You will find complaining and problems on every blu-ray player owners thread.(lol) I frequent the owner threads for my players and there are complaints and problems almost daily. The only way to avoid not hearing complaints is to not frequent owner threads.
No consumer electronics are without problem; you just hope you're not the person affected. The people who are happy with this player are significantly higher than those who are not.




Respectfully,

Willie
 
#23,697 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by bakerwi /forum/post/17439454


jruser,


I've owned my player since March and it has worked without incident.
What ever problems perceived or real is probably being posted over and over by the same posters so it seems like there are more problems then there actually are. You will find complaining and problems on every blu-ray player owners thread.(lol) I frequent the owner threads for my players and there are complaints and problems almost daily. The only way to avoid not hearing complaints is to not frequent owner threads.
No consumer electronics are without problem; you just hope you're not the person affected. The people who are happy with this player are significantly higher than those who are not.




Respectfully,

Willie

I'm with Willie. People are more likely to come to forums with problems than with praise. The rest are out there enjoying watching their discs.


FWIW, I purchased a BDP-83 a couple of weeks ago, along with a Panasonic P46G10 plasma TV - replacing a 12-year-old Sony Trinitron 20" CRT and inexpensive Sony DVD carousel player (!).


First thing I noticed was the significant improvement in audio quality across the board from the BDP-83's stereo analog outs (run through an old NAD 7225PE receiver and Mission Cyrus bookshelf speakers). I'm a professional musician and part-time recording engineer, for what that's worth. I don't apply the same standards to my 'home theater' (if you can call it that) as to my home studio - I'd been satisfied with the sound coming out of the Sony DVD player - but the improvement in sound was a pleasant surprise. I had to remind myself that I hadn't changed speakers or receiver.


As I pointed out in an earlier post, one of the reviews that caught my eye was by a veteran recording engineer (Tom Jung - link on the first page of this thread), who praised the Oppo's audio quality - though he didn't specifically mention the analog stereo outs.


I'm waiting for my first Blu-Ray discs to arrive, but the DVDs I have (live concerts by Keith Jarrett solo and trio, and by the Pat Metheny Group) look great through the BDP-83 (connected via HDMI direct to the TV). I've ordered the Blu-Ray version of one of these DVDs so I can do a comparison.


It seems that the most problems arise with digital interconnects between disc players and home theater receivers or pre/pros, which I'm immune to with my current setup.


The only issue I've had so far is with the firmware update done via Ethernet. It got stuck twice, but after doing a search of this thread, I learned I could just reboot the BDP-83, and it worked on the third attempt. I'm one of those satisfied customers. In fact, I'm not even sure why I'm still subscribed to this thread!
 
#23,698 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by BobK88 /forum/post/17439887


I'm with Willie. People are more likely to come to forums with problems than with praise. The rest are out there enjoying watching their discs.


FWIW, I purchased a BDP-83 a couple of weeks ago, along with a Panasonic P46G10 plasma TV - replacing a 12-year-old Sony Trinitron 20" CRT and inexpensive Sony DVD carousel player (!).


First thing I noticed was the significant improvement in audio quality across the board from the BDP-83's stereo analog outs (run through an old NAD 7225PE receiver and Mission Cyrus bookshelf speakers). I'm a professional musician and part-time recording engineer, for what that's worth. I don't apply the same standards to my 'home theater' (if you can call it that) as to my home studio - I'd been satisfied with the sound coming out of the Sony DVD player - but the improvement in sound was a pleasant surprise. I had to remind myself that I hadn't changed speakers or receiver.


As I pointed out in an earlier post, one of the reviews that caught my eye was by a veteran recording engineer (Tom Jung - link on the first page of this thread), who praised the Oppo's audio quality - though he didn't specifically mention the analog stereo outs.


I'm waiting for my first Blu-Ray discs to arrive, but the DVDs I have (live concerts by Keith Jarrett solo and trio, and by the Pat Metheny Group) look great through the BDP-83 (connected via HDMI direct to the TV). I've ordered the Blu-Ray version of one of these DVDs so I can do a comparison.


It seems that the most problems arise with digital interconnects between disc players and home theater receivers or pre/pros, which I'm immune to with my current setup.


The only issue I've had so far is with the firmware update done via Ethernet. It got stuck twice, but after doing a search of this thread, I learned I could just reboot the BDP-83, and it worked on the third attempt. I'm one of those satisfied customers. In fact, I'm not even sure why I'm still subscribed to this thread!

I wondered about that, too, why I'm still here. It does provide an opportunity to help others, to learn things myself, and also it's nice to see another 2-channel guy here. Like you, I don't consider my setup "home theater"; it's a stereo to which I've connected video capability.
 
#23,699 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by wmcclain /forum/post/17415114


Yes, any disc with BD-Java (which, sadly, cannot be turned off) can write to Persistent Storage.


And before anyone asks: I'm sure a feature to turn off BD-J would violate the licensing agreements. Discs that depend on it would probably be broken without it anyway. Yes, they are often sort-of-broken with it...


-Bill

Bill: Rather than turning off Java, would it be possible to simply delete or purge the Persistent Storage when the player is turned off (much like the temporary storage files in Windows are deleted)? It seems that these files are no longer needed when one is finished watching a particular movie and if one does want to watch it again, it would need to load the Java again, but that is the same as watching the movie the first time. It just seems that if the Persistent Storage were deleted each time the player is turned off or another disc is played, that many of the problems we have heard about on this forum would no longer exist. I would think that this would be doable with a firmware update.
 
#23,700 ·

Quote:
Originally Posted by Redbeemer /forum/post/17440168


Bill: Rather than turning off Java, would it be possible to simply delete or purge the Persistent Storage when the player is turned off (much like the temporary storage files in Windows are deleted)? It seems that these files are no longer needed when one is finished watching a particular movie and if one does want to watch it again, it would need to load the Java again, but that is the same as watching the movie the first time. It just seems that if the Persistent Storage were deleted each time the player is turned off or another disc is played, that many of the problems we have heard about on this forum would no longer exist. I would think that this would be doable with a firmware update.

That sort of defeats the whole purpose of "persistent storage", and would also eliminate all the BD-Live stuff people have downloaded for specific discs.


There's no protection against disc authors who use JAVA badly.
 
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