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Old 10-12-09, 03:37 AM   #5161   |  Link


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I don't know what is going on with Oceanic. When I hooked up my TV, I got KHON-HD (85.3), KGMB-HD (113.1), KHNL-HD (83.3), KITV-HD (114.2). However first, KHON-HD disappeared and then KGMB-HD disappeared. I have tried to input those new channel numbers they have listed, 46.1 and 116.1, but neither pops up with any signal, does anyone have any suggestions?
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Old 10-14-09, 01:28 PM   #5162   |  Link
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Versus HD not part of HD pack?

Edit - I got it back, Looks like its back to normal

Last night when I tuned into Versus HD (1210) I got the notice that I was not authorized for the channel and needed to subscribe to it. I still got the SD versus (210). I subscribe to the HD pack and oceanic.com lists Versus HD as part of that pack. I've always had it till yesterday. I rebooted by cable box, but still got the same message. Anyone else have this issue?

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Old 10-20-09, 05:05 PM   #5163   |  Link
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From the Oceanic website:

"Within 30 days Product Info Network on Ch. 27 (Big Island and Maui) and Access TV on Ch. 157 statewide will be replaced by Revenue Frontier. The addition of MSNBC HD, MLB HD, Disney XD HD, Speed HD, Fox News HD and ABC Family HD is delayed December, 2009."
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Old 10-22-09, 10:09 PM   #5164   |  Link
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Keep trying. The QAM channels I get are not necessarily what OC says they are. For example, for some reason I get PBS at 120.1 not 120.12. Do a channel scan and probably you will find the exact right numbers for you!

Interesting a month or so ago my direct digital channels were FULL of tiling and drop outs. They got worse and worse. I tried everything, including trying several different signal amplifiers to no avail. I thought it was my set (Sharp). Finally out of desperation I called OC (love talking to them! yeah right!) and they said they couldn't do anything, that it was probably my TV. I said I planned to write to the FCC and complain , since there was no way for me to know if it was my set or my cable service. Almost immediately they scheduled a service call for two weeks later. Well about 15 minutes before the cable man was to arrive, the picture cleared up to be as crisp as one would hope. I really don't know what OC did... the cable guy said it was probably the feed from the stations (yeah right) ... I suspect they added an amp somewhere along the line, but anyway now my pic is fine.
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Old 10-23-09, 12:43 AM   #5165   |  Link
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From the Oceanic website:

"Within 30 days Product Info Network on Ch. 27 (Big Island and Maui) and Access TV on Ch. 157 statewide will be replaced by Revenue Frontier. The addition of MSNBC HD, MLB HD, Disney XD HD, Speed HD, Fox News HD and ABC Family HD is delayed December, 2009."
Of course. Of COURSE they would delay SpeedHD until the end of the year. And that would be after the final F1 race of the season.

Way to go, Oceanic. Thanks for promising Speed HD at the beginning of 2009 and then scratching that out before the start of the Formula One season.

Sorry everyone. Just a frustrated F1 fan venting out. Ho ho ho.
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Old 10-26-09, 06:35 PM   #5166   |  Link
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KGMB/KFVE Shared Services Agreement

Today I noticed that the DISH Network listings show KFVE on channel 009-00 and KGMB on 005-00. This, then, shows the NFL game on Sunday morning 11/01 as being on 005-00 KGMB.
The listings on DirecTV, Titan, Zap2it, and TV Guide all show the game on KGMB-9, so can I safely assume this is a DISH screw-up?
Thanks for any clue,
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Old 10-26-09, 08:37 PM   #5167   |  Link
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Did anyone notice the HD channels dropping out last night 10/25? I have 3 8300's and one of them showed all EEEE on the display? This morning I reboot it and all seems fine now? This was in the Mililani area?

On a side note the rr speeds have been nice lately. I guess because of the "boost" thing. I have a feeling it may be a tease then they will charge for this...
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Old 10-27-09, 03:22 AM   #5168   |  Link
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Thanks for showing the price you pay for bundle of services from Oceanic.

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I have a HD box but no digital channels like G4, Speed and others I can live without them because they are not in HD. I attached my bill so all can see and demand it form oceanic. I wish I did not have to pay for anything in analog or digital. I don't watch anything that is not in HD
When I've called Oceanic, they always try to sell me some new service with "savings" if I buy some bundled services. I never see these bundle prices on their web page. For instance, there's no price listed for having cable + road runner, but when you call, they'll say, you can get both for some price...

Does anyone know if there is a list of the different bundles and the prices? Mahalo.
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Old 10-27-09, 05:47 AM   #5169   |  Link
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Does anyone know if there is a list of the different bundles and the prices? Mahalo.
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Old 10-27-09, 11:45 AM   #5170   |  Link
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Today I noticed that the DISH Network listings show KFVE on channel 009-00 and KGMB on 005-00. This, then, shows the NFL game on Sunday morning 11/01 as being on 005-00 KGMB.
The listings on DirecTV, Titan, Zap2it, and TV Guide all show the game on KGMB-9, so can I safely assume this is a DISH screw-up?
Thanks for any clue,
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Michael,

Last night at about 5PM, Directv had the Kfve channel showing programming that should have been on KGMB (9). Eventually they stopped uplinking those two channels. As of this morning I think it may be straightened out.

If they cannot get it right I will have to apply for a waiver to receive CBS in HD. The alleged HD feed of KFVE on Directv is merely stretch o vision SD.

I think it may have to do with the combining of facilitites in the News departments so that we can get the "official" version of the news..... <G>

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Old 10-27-09, 01:21 PM   #5171   |  Link
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KGMB and KFVE on Oahu swapped channels:

KGMB now broadcast as 5.1 on Oahu, KFVE now broadcast as 9.1...Oceanic swapped the channels back to the channels that they were but it appears Dish and Directv(who take the OTA feed) just swapped the call letters with the channel and creates confusion.
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Old 10-27-09, 04:39 PM   #5172   |  Link
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The alleged HD feed of KFVE on Directv is merely stretch o vision SD.
I don't think any HD for KFVE on DirecTV is alleged. I'm just seeing SD, at my house (I just now rechecked that). However, last summer I did see some stretched SD on KFVE and some other local channels. That appears to have been due to some weird error in the system software for my HR20-700 receiver that didn't affect my other H21-100 receiver. The oddity went away when I got a new version of the software at the end of the summer. I'm not saying this is what you're seeing, necessarily, but it seems possible.
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Old 10-27-09, 11:15 PM   #5173   |  Link
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I don't think any HD for KFVE on DirecTV is alleged. I'm just seeing SD, at my house (I just now rechecked that). However, last summer I did see some stretched SD on KFVE and some other local channels. That appears to have been due to some weird error in the system software for my HR20-700 receiver that didn't affect my other H21-100 receiver. The oddity went away when I got a new version of the software at the end of the summer. I'm not saying this is what you're seeing, necessarily, but it seems possible.
You are correct when you say I am seeing SD on KFVE. Of course the logo says HD, (once in a while) but it is clearly SD.

Now it seems that KGMB has SD broadcasts for their news. Not sure what their prognosis is for returning to HD.

Given the track record between Directv and KHNL, I do not expect much.
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Old 10-30-09, 01:55 AM   #5174   |  Link
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DISH guide has the NFL game back on 9 where it belongs.[s].

Fwiw, tonight I looked at 'Hawaii News Now' on DISH Ch. 5663/KHNL and 5671/KFVE and they were both in HD. "Community" is on 5663/KHNL right now and it is HD. I don't watch KFVE much, so I don't know if anything other than the news is in HD. TV says the HDMI sig. from the DISH DVR is 1080i, but the movie 'Bloodsport' is definitely SD.
DirecTV 5 and 13 news were both 480p (4:3) SD as is 'Community'.
The signal on DirecTV is delayed 1/2+ sec from Dish and over a second from OTA 13-1 here on Maui.
Hard to believe they both have their 'Local Collection Facilities' at Net Enterprise.
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Old 10-30-09, 02:09 AM   #5175   |  Link
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Now it seems that KGMB has SD broadcasts for their news. Not sure what their prognosis is for returning to HD.

Given the track record between Directv and KHNL, I do not expect much.
Really...
9 looks like it's back to HD for now at least.[sigh]
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Really...
9 looks like it's back to HD for now at least.[sigh]
I saw that last night. You mentioned in the post before that one, that there is a delay on Direct over the delay on Dishnet. I wonder if it is the processor in the Directv receivers.

As you know I get many feeds directly from the mainland. I have set top boxes that can receive some, and use a computer to get others from the Big Dish. It gets interesting to see how much delay is created by processing the signal, and satellite uplink latency.

For example if I use the computer to receive NBC (west) and also use a set top box to receive the same signal, there is a noticeable delay on the computer feed due to software decoding some of the information.

My point here is that maybe some of the delay by Directv may be due to how their receivers process the signal.

Michael, one of these days we gotta get together for a few cold ones....
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Old 10-30-09, 02:50 PM   #5177   |  Link
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It seems like KGMB is now on the same OTA xmit antenna as KHNL, and now KFVE is on the old KGMB antenna. So I no longer get KGMB in Mililani. Does anyone know if this is the permanent "solution"? Trading KGMB for KFVE is pretty much a downgrade.

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Old 10-31-09, 07:46 PM   #5178   |  Link
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It seems like KGMB is now on the same OTA xmit antenna as KHNL, and now KFVE is on the old KGMB antenna. So I no longer get KGMB in Mililani. Does anyone know if this is the permanent "solution"? Trading KGMB for KFVE is pretty much a downgrade.

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Downgrade is an understatement, imo.
This A.M., KGMV 9-1 on Maui is airing programming from KFVE, so no one using OTA can view the Florida/Georgia game, nor will they be able to view the Dolphins/Jets game tomorrow.
KFVE -was- broadcasting a weak analog signal on Ch.27, but I don't even see that now. It was useless anyway unless you lived in the canefield by the tower.
DirecTV and DISH both have CBS programming on KGMB 9, fwiw.

Time to send a donation to Media Council Hawaii.
http://mediacouncil.org/wp/
and file a complaint with the FCC, if you can figure out where to do *that*.[sigh]
Imo, it's time for these companies who run roughshod over their customers in order to satisfy their own greed, to get slapped around a little themselves.
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Old 10-31-09, 08:11 PM   #5179   |  Link
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I saw that last night. You mentioned in the post before that one, that there is a delay on Direct over the delay on Dishnet. I wonder if it is the processor in the Directv receivers.

My point here is that maybe some of the delay by Directv may be due to how their receivers process the signal.

Michael, one of these days we gotta get together for a few cold ones....
Really, Bob. You're the only guy I've 'known' for over two years and have no idea of what you look like.[s]

I'm unable to discern any delay or difference between DISH/DirecTV on, say, ESPN-HD...only the Off-Air stuff.
Later today I'm going to test some DirecTV receivers, so I'll have a chance to have both DISH and DirecTV running simutaneously on their own TV and be able to compare mo'bettah. I'll let you know.

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I'm unable to discern any delay or difference between DISH/DirecTV on, say, ESPN-HD...only the Off-Air stuff.
Later today I'm going to test some DirecTV receivers, so I'll have a chance to have both DISH and DirecTV running simutaneously on their own TV and be able to compare mo'bettah. I'll let you know.

--Michael...off to donate to http://mediacouncil.org/wp/
I have never seen the facility on Oahu, but can only guess that the difference between the delay times of Dish and Direct has to do with the encoders being used by each.

I was going to offer a comparison of the delay (if their is one) between the CBS National Distribution feed and our OTA signal, and then remembered that since the transition I have not received any OTA stuff. Oh well..

I will maybe pursue the OTA this summer. Replaced all of my Coax, and found rats had eaten much of it. Some of the coax was eaten to the center conductor and some was eaten all the way thru. Makes me wonder how i was getting any signals at all.

Take care....
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Time to send a donation to Media Council Hawaii.
http://mediacouncil.org/wp/
and file a complaint with the FCC, if you can figure out where to do *that*.[sigh]
Imo, it's time for these companies who run roughshod over their customers in order to satisfy their own greed, to get slapped around a little themselves.
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I have never seen the facility on Oahu, but can only guess that the difference between the delay times of Dish and Direct has to do with the encoders being used by each.

I was going to offer a comparison of the delay (if their is one) between the CBS National Distribution feed and our OTA signal, and then remembered that since the transition I have not received any OTA stuff. Oh well..

I will maybe pursue the OTA this summer. Replaced all of my Coax, and found rats had eaten much of it. Some of the coax was eaten to the center conductor and some was eaten all the way thru. Makes me wonder how i was getting any signals at all.

Take care....
Really...the rats are a trip here for sure.

My comments about the facility, besides the delay difference, were also about the fact that DISH has KHNL and KFVE in HD and DirecTV doesn't. If they were at the same facility...?

If you decide to go after OTA again, don't forget that I have a 36 ft. telescoping push-up mast and my Olinda friend has a Winegard HD7698P and a Channel Master CM-7777...all used only once for testing.<g>
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My comments about the facility, besides the delay difference, were also about the fact that DISH has KHNL and KFVE in HD and DirecTV doesn't.
As I interpret DirecTV's stated reason for not carrying KHNL and KFVE in HD, it's a problem with the current capacity of their satellites.
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Old 11-02-09, 04:03 PM   #5184   |  Link
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In order to reduce my costs, I downgraded by service to only their standard digital package. I formerly had the digital variety pak and HD entertainment pak and had them removed, saving me about $19 a month. However, when I dropped those services, the SDV channels that are supposed to be a part of the standard digital service also dropped off. Broadcast channels from 1003 to 1010 remained (non-SDV), but all others that I believe that I was supposed to get went black. The SDV channels that are supposed to be part of standard digital are listed below.

After various attempts to resolve the problem by re-pairing my cablecard and rebooting my Tivo and tuning adapter, the only solution to work was to reinstall the HD entertainment pak. That action restored all SDV channels. I'm writing a letter to Oceanic to request an explanation on why their standard digital package lists these channels when it also requires other add-on services.

1222 ESPN High Definition
1224 ESPN2 High Definition
1225 ESPN News High Definition
1226 Fox Sports West HD
1228 PrimeTicket HD
1248 Big Ten HD
1260 Local PPV Events HD
1321 Food Network High Definition
1323 Home & Garden Television High Definition
1325 Travel Channel HD
1327 The History Channel High Definition
1329 Animal Planet High Definition
1331 TLC High Definition
1332 HD Theater
1333 The Discovery Channel HD
1337 Science Channel HD
1339 Smithsonian Channel HD
1347 National Geographic Channel HD
1440 Cartoon Network HD
1444 Disney High Definition
1449 Lifetime Movie Network HD
1453 Hallmark Movie Channel HD
1454 Jewelry TV HD
1547 A&E High Definition
1551 TBS High Definition
1553 TNT HD
1554 FX HD
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As I interpret DirecTV's stated reason for not carrying KHNL and KFVE in HD, it's a problem with the current capacity of their satellites.
Ahhh, so maybe next year when/if D12 goes up. Coulda' been later this year, but ILS took DirecTV's Proton to use on Eutalsat's W7 after Sea Launch declared bankruptcy.<damnit>
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Really...the rats are a trip here for sure.

My comments about the facility, besides the delay difference, were also about the fact that DISH has KHNL and KFVE in HD and DirecTV doesn't. If they were at the same facility...?

If you decide to go after OTA again, don't forget that I have a 36 ft. telescoping push-up mast and my Olinda friend has a Winegard HD7698P and a Channel Master CM-7777...all used only once for testing.<g>

With regard to the Directv/Dishnet thing, I was sort of wondering the same thing with my comment about being in two separate places within the same building. If, in fact, it is a satellite capacity issue we will have to see what benefits D12 will have for us. I am not sure if I have heard of any spot beams reserved for Hawaii.

OTA>>> I do not have any signal meters that could show me what might be out back, so before I play with telescoping masts etc, I will go out with some coat hangers, a digital tuner, and a TV to see if there is any hint of a signal.

At this point it is mostly curiosity, I get everything I need in HD already, but I would just like to see if I can receive anything.
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OTA>>> I do not have any signal meters that could show me what might be out back, so before I play with telescoping masts etc, I will go out with some coat hangers, a digital tuner, and a TV to see if there is any hint of a signal.

At this point it is mostly curiosity, I get everything I need in HD already, but I would just like to see if I can receive anything.
We're both signal junkies...we gotta' be able to get everything. I'd put up that 12' Paraclipse I have if I had room for it.<g>

All three of the Digital Converter boxes I've used didn't have the capability to 'Direct Enter' the Channel # or RF freq. They could only find a signal by 'scanning' and discovering it. Before I added the pre-amp, some would miss KHNL 13, which was the HD Channel we were both missing of course.

When you get ready to try for it, let me know and I'll loan you a box that is 'preloaded'.<s>

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When you get ready to try for it, let me know and I'll loan you a box that is 'preloaded'.<s>

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I'll let you know. Right now everytime I think of going out there with all of my junk, I decide that the effort is too large so I just tune in a football game.
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From the Oceanic website:

"Within 30 days Product Info Network on Ch. 27 (Big Island and Maui) and Access TV on Ch. 157 statewide will be replaced by Revenue Frontier. The addition of MSNBC HD, MLB HD, Disney XD HD, Speed HD, Fox News HD and ABC Family HD is delayed December, 2009."
Cool, MLB HD. Perfect timing, after the season's long over... Knuckleheads...
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technical contact at KGMB?

Anyone know of a technical contact at KGMB? I would like to get back their (CBS) HD broadcast, and maybe there is an estimate of when they may have their act together. I live in Waikele, and my tuner can't pick up signal for 9.1.

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