2009 Monday Night Football on ESPN HD - Week 8 - Falcons @ Saints!

homcom · 11-02-09, 04:08 PM

Monday Night Football on ESPN HD
Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints
Live from the Superdome, 8:30 PM ET
720p & DD5.1 simulated by Circle Surround

Local Stations:

Atlanta: WGCL
New Orleans: WDSU

Please include your source in your posts (Cable, Sat, Fiber, IPTV, OTA simulcast in home markets) and your location.

steverobertson · 11-02-09, 04:18 PM

I am looking forward to this game tonight

ABCTV99 · 11-02-09, 08:49 PM

PQ not impressive tonight. Very noisy lots of compression artifacts. The pregame show looked better. The video levels however are better than the last MNF game I remember seeing in the Superdome which looked kinda dull and flat. Skycam looks absolutely awful. The image has punch and if it wasn't noisy would be really striking, but with all the noise it just distracts. They are getting a lot bolder with the use of steadicam, he's basically in the huddle and (i guess) running a 4/3 out of the way. I'm amazed the refs haven't complained.

bcope · 11-02-09, 09:05 PM

watching on the TSN rebroadcast up in toronto, canada. looks absolutely HORRIFIC. noisy, soft, washed out colours, tons of artifacts and blocking. only on the mail 50 yeard cam though...close ups look...well..not awesome, but passable...crowd and sideline shots are the same..

the main cam though is borderline unwatchable. absolutely brutal.

BarryB1124 · 11-02-09, 09:07 PM

Same subpar PQ here in NY (Cablevision) on ESPN. Worst for ESPN this season easily.

cecoleman · 11-02-09, 09:23 PM

I'm watching on DirecTV on an ISF calibrated 50" Panasonic plasma and I will concur that quality tonight is not so hot. The problem though are these stadiums that have the artificial field turf. Its terrible for television. Its not only a dull dark green but the turn itself has a sheen to it or glare from the lighting. This causes all the pixelation muck up. Watching a game with real grass in HD blows away any game with this artificial field turf. I hate watching games in Superdome, Lucas Oil Arena, the Metrodome, Foxboro, and Transair. They are the worst as the turf ruins PQ.

ABCTV99 · 11-02-09, 09:39 PM

Yea what I'm seeing is compression noise like crazy. Stills look fine, they sat on a freeze of the All-22 camera way up top on a replay and it looked really amazing, but then they rolled the clip and as soon as there was motion it completely broke up. It's definitely not happening at the truck phase, it looks like the detail is there, the levels are good, colors are about right, but it is a compression mess. Not even sure what the issue with the skycam is, it doesn't even look HD and the colors are way off. Like bad RF or something. This show looks like old SNF.

coyoteaz · 11-02-09, 09:44 PM

Same story here on FiOS in Dallas. Horrible turf with lots of video noise, and even some blocking which is unusual for ESPN. Even the on-field cameras and the cablecam are bad, and they are usually at least halfway decent even when the main cameras aren't.

Johnny5.1 · 11-03-09, 12:48 AM

ESPN, you're HD MNF broadcasts stink!

And don't tell me it's the cable or dish providers fault it looks the way it does. IF that's the case, why would the sportscenter highlights look exactly the same, dull lifeless SD quality, while other highlights of games (FOX, CBS, NBC) look terrific. I miss the old ABC MNF days, quality seemed alot higher back then. And not to mention true 5.1!

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homcom AVS Special Member AVS GOLD CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: SE Michigan Posts: 5,031	2009 Monday Night Football on ESPN HD - Week 8 - Falcons @ Saints! Monday Night Football on ESPN HD Atlanta Falcons at New Orleans Saints Live from the Superdome, 8:30 PM ET 720p & DD5.1 simulated by Circle Surround Local Stations: Atlanta: WGCL New Orleans: WDSU Please include your source in your posts (Cable, Sat, Fiber, IPTV, OTA simulcast in home markets) and your location.

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ABCTV99 AVS Special Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,030	PQ not impressive tonight. Very noisy lots of compression artifacts. The pregame show looked better. The video levels however are better than the last MNF game I remember seeing in the Superdome which looked kinda dull and flat. Skycam looks absolutely awful. The image has punch and if it wasn't noisy would be really striking, but with all the noise it just distracts. They are getting a lot bolder with the use of steadicam, he's basically in the huddle and (i guess) running a 4/3 out of the way. I'm amazed the refs haven't complained. Last edited by ABCTV99; 11-02-09 at 08:56 PM..

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BarryB1124 Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 498	Same subpar PQ here in NY (Cablevision) on ESPN. Worst for ESPN this season easily.

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Johnny5.1 HDTV Addict Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Long Beach, CA Posts: 421	ESPN, you're HD MNF broadcasts stink! And don't tell me it's the cable or dish providers fault it looks the way it does. IF that's the case, why would the sportscenter highlights look exactly the same, dull lifeless SD quality, while other highlights of games (FOX, CBS, NBC) look terrific. I miss the old ABC MNF days, quality seemed alot higher back then. And not to mention true 5.1! __________________ R.I.P. HD DVD 2006-2008

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steverobertson AVS Special Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: E. Walpole, MA USA Posts: 5,020	I am looking forward to this game tonight

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bcope Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 206	watching on the TSN rebroadcast up in toronto, canada. looks absolutely HORRIFIC. noisy, soft, washed out colours, tons of artifacts and blocking. only on the mail 50 yeard cam though...close ups look...well..not awesome, but passable...crowd and sideline shots are the same.. the main cam though is borderline unwatchable. absolutely brutal.

11-02-09, 09:23 PM	#6 \| Link
cecoleman AV Enthusiast Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Goshen, IN Posts: 199	I'm watching on DirecTV on an ISF calibrated 50" Panasonic plasma and I will concur that quality tonight is not so hot. The problem though are these stadiums that have the artificial field turf. Its terrible for television. Its not only a dull dark green but the turn itself has a sheen to it or glare from the lighting. This causes all the pixelation muck up. Watching a game with real grass in HD blows away any game with this artificial field turf. I hate watching games in Superdome, Lucas Oil Arena, the Metrodome, Foxboro, and Transair. They are the worst as the turf ruins PQ.

11-02-09, 09:39 PM	#7 \| Link
ABCTV99 AVS Special Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,030	Yea what I'm seeing is compression noise like crazy. Stills look fine, they sat on a freeze of the All-22 camera way up top on a replay and it looked really amazing, but then they rolled the clip and as soon as there was motion it completely broke up. It's definitely not happening at the truck phase, it looks like the detail is there, the levels are good, colors are about right, but it is a compression mess. Not even sure what the issue with the skycam is, it doesn't even look HD and the colors are way off. Like bad RF or something. This show looks like old SNF.

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coyoteaz AVS Special Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: DFW Posts: 2,813	Same story here on FiOS in Dallas. Horrible turf with lots of video noise, and even some blocking which is unusual for ESPN. Even the on-field cameras and the cablecam are bad, and they are usually at least halfway decent even when the main cameras aren't.