Samsung HLRxx67W Owners Thread --- 720p DLP HDTV

[exparrot]

Howdy gang.

Brand new owner of the HLR4667w.

I was on the fence after reading all the caveats regarding game lag,
and external audio lag, and have yet to experience or test out any theories.

But I do have a question.

If the "Game" setting for the inputs seems to reduce picture processing,
and turning off "DNR" seems to be additional help, are there any other
helpful hidden settings in any of the other named settings for the inputs?

Could the holy grail of being able to turn off "DNIe" exist by selecting one of the other settings?

I will say, that after simply attaching an OTA antenna ($29 radio shack),
and watching American Idol last night in HD, I have won my wife over and
she sees just how great the picture looks. I can also tell that I might have to
be brave and tweak the gamma in the service menu, because the blacks are
almost too black. But overall? totally worth what I paid (I highly reccomend checking
the current price at electronics-expo.com) I won't post the price because I know thats a no-no.

Thanks for all the great advice so far.

[propahac]

I have a HLR 5667W that i bought last May 05.....

Does this mean that there is currently no GAME option on my set?


I am trying to hook up an old 8-Bit Nintendo, and a Sega Genesis, and am experiencing horrible lag when hooking in thru coaxial.


Has anybody figured out how to get these older game systems to work? There's no way to hook either up thru component (that i know of), so i'm stuck!! I want 56" Mario!!!!!!!

[storey1220]

Hi,

I recently purchased a Samsung HL-R5667w television set and I'd like some advice regarding the audio setup on a 5.1 audio system. I tried hooking up the television's Optical out to my audio receiver and I am getting audio from only the center channel. I tried to enable the Digital Audio out option in the TV's audio setting, but for me, that option is grayed out (it appears to be on the default PCM option, and there is no way for me to select/change it to the Dolby out option).
Could someone kindly explain to me a way to get around this problem?

Your help is greatly appreciated.

[MoInSTL]

Thanks for the clarification and reminder. I had forgotten all about that offer! I printed out the form so I won't forget again.

Originally Posted by awdorrin

Thanks, thats what I plan on doing as well. I noticed an 800 number on the rebate form so gave it a call yesterday. The CSR first told me 'all you need is the UPC barcode'. When I told her thanks for clarifying, since I wasn't sure due to the multiple barcodes she then said something to the effect of 'yeah, all we need to see is the UPC barcode along with the text that says the model number'.

Thats when I figured I'd play it safe and just send in one half of the sticker - haha.
I was just a little nervous about sending in both barcodes since the second barcode includes the serial number - but I registered the TV at Samsung's website with the serial number, so I now figure, whats the risk?

Still a little surprised they are offering a $149 DVD-Recorder for free, even if it is last year's model.

[johngraz]

Originally Posted by storey1220

Hi,

I recently purchased a Samsung HL-R5667w television set and I'd like some advice regarding the audio setup on a 5.1 audio system. I tried hooking up the television's Optical out to my audio receiver and I am getting audio from only the center channel. I tried to enable the Digital Audio out option in the TV's audio setting, but for me, that option is grayed out (it appears to be on the default PCM option, and there is no way for me to select/change it to the Dolby out option).
Could someone kindly explain to me a way to get around this problem?

Your help is greatly appreciated.

How is your audio going in to the TV?? Have you tried tweaking your receiver settings? If you have an analog connection in to the TV I don't think you can really get digital out of the TV optical as it will only be an analog signal anyway. I have the digital out of my STB going right into my receiver and don't use the audio out of the TV. Also my receiver has about 4-5 setting plus a stereo setting which all alter the way the audio bounces between speakers. I would try a direct connection to the receiver and also look at how you are feeding the audio signal to the TV. Good luck

[varkeast]

i've had a samsung hlr5067 for about 11 months, had the screen replaced twice due to moisture between the two layers, and the digital board replaced because HDMI stopped working.

Now my HDMI is not working again. I have a Time Warner SA-8300. It was working fine but a few days ago i cut everything on, and now i get a message with something like:

" Your TV does not support HDCP..."

I called Timewarner, they sent a guy out but he didnt do anything, said i need a firmware upgrade for the set. Anyone ever heard of this? Wanted to see if anyone else had this problem before i try to get samsung to do anything else.

Thanks

[rhw199]

Originally Posted by varkeast

Now my HDMI is not working again. I have a Time Warner SA-8300. It was working fine but a few days ago i cut everything on, and now i get a message with something like:

" Your TV does not support HDCP..."

I called Timewarner, they sent a guy out but he didnt do anything, said i need a firmware upgrade for the set. Anyone ever heard of this? Wanted to see if anyone else had this problem before i try to get samsung to do anything else.

Thanks

Wow... you've certainly had your share of problems with the Sammy! I hope those were issues resolved before the more recently manufactured ones hit the market.

Not sure about the new error message, but if it refers to "DHCP" that is a configuration issue for the STB possibly indicating your cable box has lost its IP address, a TW problem not the Samsung. Try unplugging it completely (AC and cable) wait a couple minutes and reconnect.

Roger

[awdorrin]

Originally Posted by Don1959

I think he means his cable company sucks.... probably compressed to death....

Don

Ah, OK - I didn't consider the fact that some cable companies recompress the signals they receive from the networks. (I knew the satelite companies did.)

Biggest problem I've got currently with my cable company is a poor S/N ratio. From reading on the SA-8300HD threads, sounds like I should be looking for a FDC S/N ratio over 32, currently i'm getting 26 and experiencing some breakup in the HD signals. Time to replace my RG-59 with RG-6 I guess and then give the cable company a call.

[DNAtester]

I finally pulled the trigger and bought a 5067.

It looks awesome, however.......It keeps turning off on its own. Every 3 or 4 minutes.

I am little annoyed. Does anybody have any experience with this. The TV is in an armoire. Could it be overheating? It has no room on the sides, and about 10 inches in the back. There are holes in the shelf above it and in the back of the armoire for cords. If that is the problem, would cutting a big whole in the back of the armoire fix the problem. I remember someone on this forum had this exact setup before.

HELP!!!

UPDATE:

Okay, the TV wen about 3 and a half minutes before turning off. The next time (right after) it went 7 minutes. After that I pulled the tv out (diagonally) of the armoire and turned it on (about 1 or 2 minutes after it turned off). That time it turned off after <1minute. The air behind the tv (inside armoire does not feel warm, after it turns off. And the last time, there should have been enough ventilation with it halfway out of the armoire. Any ideas as to what is causing this?

NEW UPDATE:

Okay, it is oficcially NOT a heat problem. I took the TV out of the armoire, placed it on a table (which is right under a ceiling fan), and it only lasted 3 and a half minutes! WTF!

So now, should I wait for the service guy to come out, or take it back to Sears?

[22velocity]

Dnatester, I recently had the same type of problems with my 8 month old hlr4667w Samsung DLP . The Sears tech came out, put the serial number in his hand held computer found out there wasn't any service bulletins issued on the set, he then dialed into Samsungs tech support line and was told to replace the ballast and the lamp. I was glad I had the additional warranty from Sears otherwise I would have been out about 170 dollars for the labor ,the parts would have been covered under the Samsung 12 month warranty. The work was done two weeks ago , so far its back working fine. I am keeping a close watch on this set, If more problems would start to pop up and the set is less than a year old , I will press Sears to replace this TV. I went through a lot of BS with a Hitachi 43" 43uwx10b,multible service visits ,they never could straighten out a red convergence problem. I hope I am not starting the saga all over again,because I relly like the PQ on this Samsung. Frank

[Kaplan]

I just bought the 50 inch version of this tv and I am having some problems with picture quality. Even on HD channels, the picture is grainy and can be pixulated. In HD this doesnt usually happen with graphics, or things that are static, but when things are moving. The same is true in standard def. I may be paranoid, but I was wondering if others had similiar troubles? I tried to look through old posts for some answers, but didnt make it through all 2100, so i apologize if this issue has been disussed before, but any hlpe is much appreciated! thanks

[HD Hockey Guy]

Originally Posted by varkeast

i've had a samsung hlr5067 for about 11 months, had the screen replaced twice due to moisture between the two layers, and the digital board replaced because HDMI stopped working.

Now my HDMI is not working again. I have a Time Warner SA-8300. It was working fine but a few days ago i cut everything on, and now i get a message with something like:

" Your TV does not support HDCP..."

I called Timewarner, they sent a guy out but he didnt do anything, said i need a firmware upgrade for the set. Anyone ever heard of this? Wanted to see if anyone else had this problem before i try to get samsung to do anything else.

Thanks

This was a common problem on the 8300 until about 2 months ago, when the did a firmware upgrade. Try unplugging your 8300 for a few minutes, then plug back in, during the reboot it should update the firmware. If not, you need a replacement one is all. This message would come on all the time when turning on the cable box, then the TV.

Sometimes if you turn on the TV, then the cable box, the message wouldn't come up, but that was prior to the update. Now, I don't even have to turn on the cable box... the HDMI connection triggers the box to come on as soon as I power up the Sammy.... cool huh. I think they finally got the two components to 'handshake' properly.

[HD Hockey Guy]

Originally Posted by gothicx00

Okay, i know this has been covered at length and with much debate, but i would like to pose a few questions mainly because i am considering (and probably will) purchase this TV. Now any replies, get as technical as you like. I am an audio engineer by trade, so you really can't scare me when it comes to all things audible.

Here is the list for those of you with audio problems:

1. How is the video from your xbox/ps2/etc. connected to the tv? Is it directly connected? Is it via component, composite or s-video?
2. How is your audio connected? Is it directly to the tv or through a reciever? Analog or digital?
3. Are you using MS brand cables or somthing else? If digital audio, have you tried more than one optical audio cable?
4. What resolution are you running your games at? If the game supports 720p, do you have 720p selected in the settings on the console? Do you notice the lag more with 480p games? Have you tested more than one game at all the availble resolutions?

I'd be interested if sombody who has one of the sammy HLR's to run these gamuts of tests, especially if you own an X-Box (considering that is what i'll be using to play games and watch dvd's at least initially).

Also i have a Cox DVR 6414 series III box with HDMI out. Anybody else have this box with cox or any other provider? How's the quality? Any suggestions for a first time rear projection owner? I'm looking at getting the HLR5067W and main viewing distance is 9' or so away. Should i go with somthing smaller? I'm mainly going with the 50" for the PC input because i'm building a media center box and that would be perfect instaid of having to go through all the rigamarole of either DVI out to HDMI and a switch or DVI to component video which my vid card supports. Anyway.... any input from anybody would be appriciated.

Yes all of this has been covered before... if you simply search for audio lag - your answers await you... including an intriguing comment about the quality of the video on the pc input vs. the other inputs.

[kingd]

Originally Posted by storey1220

Hi,

I recently purchased a Samsung HL-R5667w television set and I'd like some advice regarding the audio setup on a 5.1 audio system. I tried hooking up the television's Optical out to my audio receiver and I am getting audio from only the center channel. I tried to enable the Digital Audio out option in the TV's audio setting, but for me, that option is grayed out (it appears to be on the default PCM option, and there is no way for me to select/change it to the Dolby out option).
Could someone kindly explain to me a way to get around this problem?

Your help is greatly appreciated.

The optical out on the samsung does not pass 5.1 sound in most cases. I believe if you are watching via OTA antenna then it can but otherwise it will not pass through 5.1. Check your receiver settings and make sure it's set to dolby pro logic II which can matrix out 2.1 sound to a 5.1 speaker system.

[KhoolAde]

I just got my hdmi cable this saturday and tried to hook it up to my hd845 hd upconversion samsung dvd player. at first i didnt get a picture just some scanning static. so i hooked it up with the component and checked the settings to make sure it was set to hdmi out. then i changed it back to hdmi and it was working for a little bit. then i messed with my receiver a tad bit and the signal went out and back to the scanning static. so as of now i just have it hooked up through component. does any one have any ideas on how i can make this work.

Also i tried to hook up my cable box video to my receiver via A/V cable and then connect my receiver to my television through component. but i didnt receive a signal. does any one have any ideas on this as well. i am using a sony strde598 audio/video receiver. and my cable box only has a/v, coax, and s-video connections on the back of it.

any help would be great.

[varkeast]

HD Hockey Guy,
Thanks for the reply. I have tried rebooting the cable box by holding in the power button for 8 seconds until it boots, but that didnt help. I will try to disconnect the power for a few minutes after i leave work today to see if that helps.

The cable guy that came out when i called refused to give me a new cable box. I think i already have the updated firmware, my cable box turns automatically on with the tv when connected with hdmi.

Has anyone heard of any firmware upgrades to the samsung related?


rhw199,

thanks also, but its not an IP problem, but an HDCP (high def content protection) hand shake type of problem.

[rocky01]

I've browsed through the HLRxx67W thread. Considering HLR4667 purchase.

1. Has anyone found a way to turn off DNIe?

2. Can you point to instructions for accessing Service menu? (I may reset Gamma if straightforward)

3. Can ISF Calibration succeed in turning off DNIe?

4. Is there new firmware?

5. If new firmware is not made available, do ppl think it would be worthwhile to petition their tech support for new firmware that allows users to turn off DNIe, along with some other issues mentioned in this thread?

Thanks for speedy replies; anyone's comments welcome!

[rockjeep44]

Originally Posted by HD-Gaming

how good is with the Xbox360, I've been hearing lots of complaints with lag


is this true?

Completely false. I have my X360 hooked up via component obviously with the component input set to "GAME" and there is absolutely no lag whatsoever. Just set the 360 to 720p and game on. It's a beautiful thing.

[Pye in LA]

I've not had my Sammy professionally calibrated so I've been looking forward to the HD-Net test patterns that are finally available to me tonight.

Has anyone been down this road? Was it worthwhile?

[rhw199]

Originally Posted by KhoolAde

Also i tried to hook up my cable box video to my receiver via A/V cable and then connect my receiver to my television through component. but i didnt receive a signal. does any one have any ideas on this as well. i am using a sony strde598 audio/video receiver. and my cable box only has a/v, coax, and s-video connections on the back of it. any help would be great.

Your best bet is to send the video to your TV and the audio to your receiver via a digital (coax or optical) connection. If your cable box lacks separate audio and video outputs you need to get an updated box.


Roger

[jlk_250]

Originally Posted by storey1220

Hi,

I recently purchased a Samsung HL-R5667w television set and I'd like some advice regarding the audio setup on a 5.1 audio system. I tried hooking up the television's Optical out to my audio receiver and I am getting audio from only the center channel. I tried to enable the Digital Audio out option in the TV's audio setting, but for me, that option is grayed out (it appears to be on the default PCM option, and there is no way for me to select/change it to the Dolby out option).
Could someone kindly explain to me a way to get around this problem?

Your help is greatly appreciated.

Can't help you with your center channel problem. Sounds like a setup issue with your receiver. Regarding the grayed-out options, the TV will only let you set options if they are applicable at the moment. So if the input is dolby digital 5.1, it will give you the option to set your audio. If you're watching simple stereo, it doesn't let you change the DD5.1 options. So tune to a HD channel that's playing a movie or something like that. That's assuming you are using the internal tuner, not a cable or satellite box.

Jon
HLR5067

[Denbo_33]

Originally Posted by beachbob

Samsung repair out today. According to rep Samsung does sometimes use Toshiba light engines (but rarely) in their units. I asked how does he know it is Toshiba engine as it has Samsung lables on it. Phillips lamp used in both. Part # on lamp ends with O, OsRAM (Sp.), only used on Toshiba not Samsung. Replaced entire optical engine/lamp assembly and working now.

Thats odd, I just purchased the hlr4667 and it also has the osram lamp which is made for zeiss light engine. Checking the parts list for this model on partstore (dot)com the cost for the ziess light engine is about 500 less than the Philips light engine? WTF does the ziess have a 7 segment color wheel and the hd5 TI chip or what?
Build date on this hlr4667w is Sept. 2005. Have I just been had?

[HD Hockey Guy]

Originally Posted by varkeast

HD Hockey Guy,
Thanks for the reply. I have tried rebooting the cable box by holding in the power button for 8 seconds until it boots, but that didnt help. I will try to disconnect the power for a few minutes after i leave work today to see if that helps.

The cable guy that came out when i called refused to give me a new cable box. I think i already have the updated firmware, my cable box turns automatically on with the tv when connected with hdmi.

Has anyone heard of any firmware upgrades to the samsung related?


rhw199,

thanks also, but its not an IP problem, but an HDCP (high def content protection) hand shake type of problem.

well if your cable box is turning on by itself, then you have the updated firmware from waht i've read around these forums... i'm at a loss beyond that. (bad unit?). I had to get a 2nd unit after mine kept freezing during recordings and then randomly jumping to the live portion of a game that was currently in progress when I tried to start viewing the recorded portion... that sucked... knowing the score 2 hours into the game, when you want to start at teh beginning : (

best of luck though... post your solution in case this crops up for me! lol.

[IslandHeightsNJ]

New firmware available.
I have an HL-R5067W.
After several times of Samsung blaming the cable card and saying there was no TV firmware update, they are now telling me there is a firmware updated just coming out now.
I have signed up for scheduling the update.
I have an SA cablecard and they indicated it must have firmware version 149 or later.
The CC diag screen indicates 2.3.149
The problem I was having was on a single HD channel. I had good audio and blank video. All other HD channels were fine.
They indicated that the firmware was for many types of cablecard problems, and I think other things as well.

[Hi-Rez!]

Originally Posted by rocky01

I've browsed through the HLRxx67W thread. Considering HLR4667 purchase.

1. Has anyone found a way to turn off DNIe?

2. Can you point to instructions for accessing Service menu? (I may reset Gamma if straightforward)

3. Can ISF Calibration succeed in turning off DNIe?

4. Is there new firmware?

5. If new firmware is not made available, do ppl think it would be worthwhile to petition their tech support for new firmware that allows users to turn off DNIe, along with some other issues mentioned in this thread?

Thanks for speedy replies; anyone's comments welcome!

Yea...do a search in this thread for DNIE and you will find where someone has modified their SM to kill it. Same for gamma and index instructions. Varied results there. I don't think folks know that the DNIE is dynamic. It doesn't function at one level all the time. On a clean clear HD channel it doesn't function at all. It was designed to clean up SD as needed. Why disable that? I left mine at default.

If the ISF tech knows the sequence he can shut it off.

I don't think a firmware upgrade is going to enable some sort of DNIE control.

[fladtheimpaler]

I think people were complaining that because DNIe is dynamic its impossible to get consistant black levels, etc since it changes these values from source to source and even from scene to scene on some material. I personally do not notice this.
I recently upgraded from a Toshiba 52HM84 (thank god it's gone) to the HLR5067W. I had read articles stating how DNIe ruins the picture causing jaggies, artifacting, etc.
I can definately see an improvement in the SD picture quality on the samsung over the Toshiba, even though the ammoung of SD I watch is minimal. Not sure if DNIe what is causing it to look better but I have deciced to keep it enabled.
I did turn off the Digital Noise Reduction, as well as setting the sharpness levels to 0 on all inputs.

Does anybody care to share what picture settings thet have their 5067W at? I have my contrast down to 35, and my brightness to 45 with the color set to 55. I feel like a lot of posts have contrast\brightness settings up past 60 which seem way to "hot" to me.

IMPALER

[rhw199]

Originally Posted by fladtheimpaler

Does anybody care to share what picture settings thet have their 5067W at? I have my contrast down to 35, and my brightness to 45 with the color set to 55. I feel like a lot of posts have contrast\brightness settings up past 60 which seem way to "hot" to me.

IMPALER

After 6 weeks with the 5067W and using two setup discs these are my picture settings:

Picture Mode: Standard
Contrast: 65
Brightness: 55
Sharpness: 40
Color: 40
Colortone: Normal

The Color setting should actually be a little lower but I prefer a little extra saturation as long as there's no blooming. No other picture or SM adjustments are set on the 5067W.

This combination seems to work well for both HD cable channels and DVD playback. YMMV...


Roger

[captainDLP]

Newbie here (dlp owner and forum posting). I've been lurking for some time and finally purchased the HRL5067. Love it so far. I have seen posts discussing attaching the set to a PC via firewire to record SD/HD content but using different sets. Is anybody aware of a driver for the integrated tuner that will work with Windows XP pro? Does anybody have experience getting a PC based HD DVR working with this model?

[tacos]

Any threads here showing some entertainment centers or stands that people are using for this tv? Thanks

[iowahawkeye]

Originally Posted by captainDLP

Newbie here (dlp owner and forum posting). I've been lurking for some time and finally purchased the HRL5067. Love it so far. I have seen posts discussing attaching the set to a PC via firewire to record SD/HD content but using different sets. Is anybody aware of a driver for the integrated tuner that will work with Windows XP pro? Does anybody have experience getting a PC based HD DVR working with this model?

Welcome! You may want to take a look at this, http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=403695 if you haven't already seen it. Never have tried anything myself yet.