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I made a quick change to the guide to include a reference to 720p support. I've also added some instructions on the use of alternate software - VideoRedo and H2M. I'll post that a little later. Again, I haven't been able to get either of those programs to work with MF5.
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I tried your disc on a Blu-ray player at Best Buy. No luck. I used a DVD+R disc. What I thought I'd do next is try a DVD-R and DVD+RW. Also, maybe I could try stripping out the HD DVD content and see if it will play (after using the different media) first.
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I'm still working on the problem where some of my videos end up with a periodic video skip in the EVO files I create. I am working with video I have shot with the Sony HC1 and edited with Media Studio Pro 8. Here is what I have found so far. I'm hoping someone can give me some ideas.
1) I can view the program stream files in VideoLan without seeing any skipping. 2) When I use VS10+ to create EVO files, the EVO files have periodic skips in some high motion scenes. I do make sure that VS10+ doesn't re-encode. It just muxes. 3) If I run the video through Womble before feeding it to VS10+, the EVO files are perfect. There is no skipping. 4) I tried using Pinnacle Studio 10 to re-render the program stream from MSP. In the same places where I get skiping when I create an EVO file, I see about 1/2 second of weird compression artifacts. It looks as if it missed the full frame (is that the P frame?) and took a while to construct a full image again. 5) I took a transport stream created by MSP and looked at it with MPEG2Repair. The log contained occasional messages about "TemporalRef gap". MPEG2Repair says that it only analyzes transport streams and not program streams. Is there a utility I can use to look at or fix the program streams? I haven't purchased Womble yet. I'm wondering if I can fix this by changing some setting in MSP, by running the program stream through a repair utility, or if I should just buy Womble. I'd be greateful for any ideas. Thanks! Joe |
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Excellant work texmex! Just used your HDPatch to master a 720p DD5.1 .TS to HD-DVD, and audio and video are playing smoothly on my HD-A1 (with sync note below).
Couple of points: 1. Although there are no apparent video or audio glitches, the audio sync is progressively deteriating, until after 20 mins there is very noticable lip sync problems. Anyone else seeing this? I will try a different 720p stream, to see if this is a one off issue? 2. It is clearly important to switch the player resolution to 720p for the sharpest image output, to avoid the player converting/scaling to 1080i output (although this may be dependent on your display device resolution / scaling abilities etc.). |
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If the captured HDV stream looks perfect thru VLN then you need to have the custom settings in the HDDVD project to be at 100% quality instead of 90% and choose two pass encoding. Also make sure your hard drive free space is over 20Gb. I assume you are using Nero 6.3 or higher for burning the HDDVD folder because otherwise Nero may burn some trash HD DVD disks. hopefully that helps. |
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BTW, people are using transport streams with Ulead? I thought that created big issues? |
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This will result in a softer image overall due to a combination of the horizontal scaling and the loss of 180 lines of vertical resolution. 1080i will only ever really look good with 1080p material - no horizontal scaling and more than enough pixel bandwidth for 24 progressive frames, even when interlaced. This is why 1080p looks no better than 1080i. |
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.m2t files (MPEG2 transport stream files) created in Sony Vegas will work with Ulead if you first rename them to .mpg extension. MF5 will recognize that it is not yet in a program stream format and will offer to create one. This is a quick process as it does not re-encode. I'm not sure whether any other sources of transport streams will work.
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I may be wrong, but it seems to me that the IFO file structure is the same for DVDs as it is for HD DVDs. The EVO files must also similar to VOB files, otherwise VCL could not play them. The fact that VCL is an open source product seems to imply we could use their source to figure out the EVO structure. Anyway, I'm on vacation for the next two weeks and cannot look at this stuff. I will see if I can get anywhere with this when I get back. The reason I want to do this is that MF5 takes over an hour to load my video files into its editor. But it only takes a few minutes to create the EVO files. You're right about AVC or VC1 being a problem - we may need to put VC1 encoding on the back shelf until Microsoft Vista arrives. Thanks for all of your hard work. |
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Ok I have a problem with womble. When I try to convert a TS file to Mpeg it wants to make the file way bigger, like what should be 8gb it wants to make like 13. It will only do this on Certain files and others it works fine on. Like sometimes i can fit over an hour on about 8gb other times on can only fit like 40mins, Is there someway for it to make take less room? ?
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Who has a copy of Ulead MF 5.0 that will do the HD-DVD ISO image that would put that up for download? Of course we would have to purchase a lic. from Ulead but the only one I can find will not let you do that I am told even after you purchase a lic.
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What I'm hoping is that I can take a HD DVD IFO file that was created by MF5 for a single EVO file and have it reference a MPEG file of my own. Obviously you cannot rename a MPEG file and expect it to work. But you may be able to add an EVO header or do something else to get it to work. The fact that VCL plays EVO files implies that these files must be very similar to MPEG and/or VOB files. I'm hoping that I can compare short MPEG files and the resultant EVO file and see the differences. The MPEG file structure must be documented somewhere, and this should make the task easier. I'll look into this when I get back from vacation and have access to my programming tools. I'm probably very niave about what will be invloved, but it is at least worth the effort. As I said, MF5 is taking over an hour just to read in my files, and I've got a high-end, dual core machine. This will get tedious if I do it very often, so it really will be benefical if I could get it to work. |
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For those of you trying to use HDPatch for 1088 files, I recommend you use either fix1088 (for TS files) or DVDPatcher (for PS/MPEG files) instead while I work on efficiency issues in HDPatch. You can get DVDPatcher here: DVDPatcher |
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I know Womble has several different ways within the interface of massaging the files. Did you follow the guide (the the next post) to do the conversion? If not, try doing that and see what results you get. Also, what is your capture device?
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The AVS Guide to HD DVD Authoring
HD DVD Creation Guide
This guide will take you through the creation of your own HD DVDs step by step. This process uses regular DVD recordables (and double layer DVD recordables) to create HD DVD discs that will play on a standard HD DVD player (such as the Toshiba A1 or XA1). At present, high definition MPEG2 files at resolutions of 1920x1080i, 1440x1080i (HDV) and 1280x1080i work without additional conversion within the software. 1088i and 720p are now supported with the addition of HDPatch, a simple but powerful utility by texmex. See below for specific instructions if your files are 720p or 1088i (i.e. DirecTV). Special Warnings: 1. Recording double/dual layer DVD media has proven less consistent than recording single layer DVDs. You may find it difficult to achieve successful burns with double layer media using certain combinations of burners and media. 2. DircecTV users will need to convert their video from 1088i to 1080i for this process to work. See the notes below on using texmex's HDPatch conversion utility. Download the attached file below. 3. HDTV files in 720p format also must be processed with texmex's HDPatch utility. For additional information and all the original posts, go to the AVS Forum thread started by Aaron.s: Original AVS Forum HD DVD Creation Thread Please make all new posts to this thread. Hardware requirements: 1. A device that allows MPEG2 captures to a computer. This may include: HDV camcorders; D-VHS recorders (with unprotected content); OTA receivers with FireWire output; OTA computer capture cards such as MyHD or Fusion; FireWire devices such as 169Time; and, USB2 devices such as the Nextcom R5000 (for HD receivers from Dish Network, DirecTV and some cable TV companies). 2. Any more recent computer (Intel or AMD based systems) with a DVD burner and sufficient hard drive space. Software requirements (alternate software is listed below): 1. Womble MPEG2VCR (version 3.14). MPEG2VCR frame accurate transport stream (.ts) to program stream editing software. 2. Ulead Movie Factory 5. Ulead Movie Factory 5 3. Nero Burning ROM (versions 6 and 7 work). Nero Burning ROM 7 Basic Steps for Creating HD DVDs: 1. Capture a high definition MPEG2 video to your computer. 2. Convert the video file from .ts, .tp or .m2t transport stream format to program stream format (mpg) using Womble MPEG2VCR. 3. Create an HD DVD folder on your computer using Ulead Movie Factory 5. 4. Burn the HD DVD disc using Nero Burning ROM. Detailed Steps for Creating HD DVDs: 1. Capture a high definition MPEG2 video clip using an appropriate device. See Hardware Requirements above for a partial list of devices. It is beyond the scope of this guide to include specific instructions for capture. Several other threads exist on the AVS Forum that cover this process. 2. Convert the MPEG2 transport stream file (usually with a .ts, .tp or .m2t file extension) to MPEG2 program stream (with an .mpg extension) with Womble MPEG2VCR: a. For videos consisting of one large .ts file, select File>Open MPEG Movie and Editor Project… . Select your video file from the browser. b. For videos consisting of multiple files, hit F6. In the “Clip” box, select the “…” button to bring up a browser window. Select all the ts files that make up your video (either lasso or select/shift select all the files you want to include). Hit “OK.” c. Edit out the sections of the video you don’t want included. Find the beginning of a section (such as a commercial) you want to exclude and hit the “I” key (for in). Find the end of that section and hit the “O” key (for out). Hit the “X” key (for cut). Repeat until you’ve gotten rid of all the material you don’t want. d. At the bottom of the MPEG2VCR Clip List window, there are two rows of buttons. Select the button on the second row, third from the right (the icon with a red top). In the box labeled “MPEG Format” select the third radio button from the bottom, labeled “MPEG-2 Program Stream.” In the box labeled “File Name” select the “…” button. In the browser, select where you want to save the new program stream file and type in a name for it. Click “Save.” Click “Save” again and MPEG2VCR will convert and save the file for you. IMPORTANT NOTE for using this technique with 1088i and 720p videos: If the file you are using is 1088i (DirecTV) or 720p, see below to patch your video so that it can be used with Movie Factory 5. If you don't follow the instructions below, you may be able to create an HD DVD folder, but the process will take much longer and the resulting video will be degraded dramatically from the original. In the worst case scenario, Movie Factory 5 will reject the file as incompatible. 3. Create the HD DVD folder on your computer with Ulead Movie Factory 5. a. Start Ulead Movie Factory 5 (and wait, it loads slowly). Select “New Project.” b. Under “Create a Video Disc” select “HD DVD.” Click “OK.” c. In the upper right, select the movie film icon with the + sign (second icon from the left). In the browser, select the video file you just converted. The file should load in quickly. Long delays in file loading are being investigated. Tip: avoid trimming the video at this stage of the process. Trimming here may result in video re-encoding. It's better to do all editing in MPEG2VCR, prior to importing your file into Movie Factory 5.d. Deselect the button on the left marked “Create menu.” (Leaving this button on will allow you to create custom menus for your project, but they will slow the process. For many projects, menus will be unnecessary. This also allows you to check more easily that your project is processing without re-encoding.) e. Click on “Add/Edit Chapter…” f. Clicking “Auto Add Chapters…” brings up a box in which you may have the program add chapters at fixed intervals in minutes. Playing and moving the play button for the movie allows you to use the “Add chapter” selection manually. (Chapters allow you to navigate quickly through the video on your HD DVD player.) When you've added all the chapters you want, click “OK.” g. Click “Next” and use this screen to check playback and chapter stops in your program. When you're satisfied with playback, click “Next” again. h. Click on the “Project Settings” button in the lower left of the screen. Make sure the box labeled “Do not convert compliant MPEG files” is checked and click “OK.” i. Click the box labeled “Create HD DVD folders.” Click on the folder icon at the end of that option to select the folder where you wish to create the HD DVD folder. (You may create such a folder in the browser at this point, if you do not have one prepared.) j. Click the “Burn” icon in the lower right. If things have gone well, you should see “Total progress: Prepare output content…” and “Detailed progress: Video/Audio multiplexing…” appear with blue progress bars almost immediately. If you see the message “Convert title…” you are in for a long wait and your video may not be compatible. Time to check the settings. k. When the process completes, click “OK.” Your HD DVD folder is ready to burn. 4. Burn your HD DVD folder to a DVD recordable using Nero Burning ROM. Technique 1 - preferred (works with Nero version 7): (Contributed by pteittinen.) a. Launch Nero Burning ROM and select "DVD-ROM (UDF)" on the left side of the screen (you may need to scroll down). b. Under the "Multisession" tab, select the "No Multisession" radio button. b. Click on the "UDF" tab. c. In the "Options" pull-down (or the checkbox under "Advanced"), select "Enable Xbox (TM) compatibility mode." d. Disregard any warnings and continue. e. Click "New." f. Drop the HVDVD_TS folder you just created into the root directory of the compilation (column on the far left). g. Burn the disc by clicking on the Disc/Lit Match icon at the top. Technique 2 (works with Nero 6 and 7): a. Start Notepad or any word processor that allows you to create a .txt file. Leave the document blank (don’t type in anything). Select File>Save and save the blank document as text (.txt format) in a handy place on your hard drive – call it VIDEO_TS.VOB (.txt will be added automatically). Open Windows Explorer and find your new text file. Right click on it and go to rename. Delete the .txt from the end. Ignore the Windows warning and click “Yes.” Your file should now appear as VIDEO_TS.VOB. Special note: if you can't see the .txt extension in Windows Explorer, it probably means you have your computer set to hide file extensions. Open Explorer and select from the menu Tools>Folder Options... . Select the "View" tab. Find the box for "Hide extensions for known file types." and deselect it. Click "OK." You should now be able to see the .txt extension.) b. Start Nero Burning ROM and select the Nero Burning ROM application. c. In the left column, select DVD Video and click “New.” d. In the right column, select the drive where the new VIDEO_TS.VOB file is located. Drag that file onto (on top of, not above it) the VIDEO_TS folder in the leftmost column. (Make sure it’s in the VIDEO_TS folder, not in the root directory.) e. Go back to the rightmost column and find the HD DVD folder you created in Ulead Movie Factory 5. Drag that folder into the leftmost column. Make sure NOT to put it into the VIDEO_TS folder. This folder must reside in the root directory. f. Load in a recordable DVD (single or double layer, depending on the size of your project). Make sure your DVD burner is selected in Nero (click the “Choose a recorder” button). g. Click the Disc/Lit Match icon to burn the current compilation. Ignore any warning messages the system displays by clicking “OK.” Try your new HD DVD in your HD DVD player. Alternate software: (Note that some have experienced problems with Womble MPEG2VCR, VideoRedo and HDTVtoMPEG2. HDTVtoMPEG2 is freeware, but has known problems creating compliant MPEG streams with this process. Womble and VideoRedo cost $50 each. Use the trial versions with this process and your system before you buy.) A variety of other software packages may be used to edit transport stream video files and convert them to MPEG2 program stream. If you have a program that will convert .ts to .mpg, try it. If you have substantial success, please post your results here. You can find VideoRedo here: VideoRedo Using VideoRedo (version 2.2.1.445) to convert transport stream video files to MPEG2 program stream format: 1. Start VideoRedo. Select File>Open Video… . In the browser, select the movie you’ve captured. 2. In the main menu, select Tools>Options. Under "General Parameters" click the box next to "Output Streams for Movie Factory." Click "OK." 2. Use the play and navigation buttons to find the start of a section of the video you want to delete. Click “Set Start.” Find the end of the section you want to delete and click “Set End.” Click “Cut selection.” (It will turn red.) 3. Repeat this process for all the sections you want to delete. (Tip: use the arrow keys and your mouse’s scroll wheel to move quickly through the video.) 4. Select File>Save Video As… . Select a folder on the hard drive to save the video. By “Save as type:” select “MPEG Program Streams (.mpg .mpeg).” Using Movie Factory 5 with 720p and 1088i files (a file patch utility by texmex): For HDPatch to run, you will need to install the Microsoft .Net Framework 2.0. It can be found here: Microsoft .Net Framework 2.0. Download and install the software. You may have to restart your computer when the install completes. Failure to install the Microsoft .Net Framework will result in an error message when you attempt to run HDPatch. The latest version of HDPatch can be found in the file attachment below. What Is HDPatch Used For? HDPatch can be used to solve two problems in the Movie Factory 5/VideoStudio 10+ HD-DVD workflow: 1. 1088 files: many streams from various sources are encoded with a vertical resolution of 1088 (i.e. 1920x1088 or 1280x1088). MF5/VS10+ does not recognize this as a valid HD-DVD resolution and will attempt to re-encode these streams. HDPatch will modify the stream headers to correct the resolution, changing the 1088 to 1080. Once "patched," Movie Factory 5/VideoStudio 10+ should process the stream without re-encoding. And don't worry - you're not losing 8 pixels of video. Those extra 8 pixels are usually grey filler. To use this feature: 1. Process your .ts, .tp or .m2t file with Womble MPEG2VCR to convert transport stream to program stream. 2. Run HDPatch and in the menu select Preset>Fix1088. 3. Select your converted program stream video by clicking on the "..." box at the end of the "File:" line. In the browser, find the file you converted. 4. Select the "Patch Stream" button at the bottom. The patch should be virtually instantaneous. Your file is now ready for normal processing in Movie Factory 5. 2. 720p files: Movie Factory 5 and VideoStudio 10+ do not recognize 720p as a valid HD-DVD format. They will attempt to re-encode 720p files during the authoring process. In order to avoid this, you can use HDPatch to "prep" a 720p file for authoring. To use this feature: 1. Process your .ts, .tp or .m2t file with Womble MPEG2VCR to convert transport stream to program stream. 2. Run HDPatch and in the menu select Preset>>720p> Pre - patch 720p for MF5/VS10+. 3. Select your 720p stream by clicking on the "..." box at the end of the "File:" line. In the browser, find your file. 4. Select the "Patch Stream" button at the bottom. The patch should be virtually instantaneous. Complete the process outlined above to create the HD DVD folder on the hard drive. Before you can burn the HD DVD to disc, you must patch the .EVO file within the folder. 1. Run HDPatch and click on the "..." box at the end of the "File:" line. In the browser, find the first .EVO file in the HD DVD folder you just created. 2. From the menu, select 720p>Post - Patch EVO/IFO for burn. 3. Select the "Patch Stream" button at the bottom. The patching should be virtually instantaneous. Your HD DVD folder is now ready for burning in Nero Burning ROM. General MPEG patching: HDPatch also can be used for general MPEG header patching. Maybe a file is incorrectly flagged as 4:3 when it is actually 16:9. HDPatch can be used to correct the headers in such a file. Patch the 720 file back to its original settings: Once you've burned the HD DVD folder to disc, you should return the original MPEG file to its normal settings. Failure to do so may result in the MPEG file not playing correctly. 1. Run HDPatch and in the menu select Preset>720p>Post - Revert MPEG source to 720p. 2. Select your 720p stream by clicking on the "..." box at the end of the "File:" line. In the browser, find the original MPEG file. 3. Select the "Patch Stream" button at the bottom. Your original 720p MPEG file is restored virtually instantaneously and should play normally.
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Sweet!! Im working on a similar thing for Mac guys (for converting 1080p h.264 trailers to work on HD DVD)
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I'd like to give Alan Gouger the go-ahead to put the guide in a sticky, but I don't want to do that if we're still missing big pieces, especially in the alternate software section. Please let me know what else you'd like to see. I will need help if it's software I don't have.
On another note, someone posted about wanting MF5 with HD DVD support. I think that was probably pulled, but can anyone verify that MF5 has that feature stripped? I think I'll download the trial and see what it looks like.
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