Colorado Springs, CO - HDTV

Rmassey · 09-06-06, 09:21 PM

Oh this is just pathetic..... watching MyKKTV at 7:20 pm, they have spanish and english audio playing at the same time with an echo on both audio tracks..... I think this is the program 'Desire' per the MyKKTV website. Too funny, but so sad at the same time.

Busystitcher · 09-06-06, 10:22 PM

Still no center/front audio on Comcast box(Moto) channel 654 (11-1) when its in HD during CSI-NY tonight. Commercials and 4:3 still come through. Thanks - RJO and royrose - for confirming its the signal out of KKTV.

ay221 · 09-06-06, 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Rmassey

Oh this is just pathetic..... watching MyKKTV at 7:20 pm, they have spanish and english audio playing at the same time with an echo on both audio tracks..... I think this is the program 'Desire' per the MyKKTV website. Too funny, but so sad at the same time.

You just have to filter out the spanish or english part in your head. You get used to it after a while.

eichenberg · 09-06-06, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by RJO

Last night on KKTV while trying to watch NCIS, there was no center channel audio which made me not watch. I sure hope that KKTV gets that fixed soon. I suspect it has something to do with the new sub channels.

That actually happened quite frequently last year if i remember right. Usually after they would come back from a commerical. The program would go several minutes before the audio "switch" was filpped. It got to the point where if I was going to watch a program on KKTV, I would turn my Dolby Digital off on my AV receiver and turn on a different sound field, like simulated DD.

TallGuy · 09-07-06, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by GatoViejo

Formerly, the video data for KKTV-HD was about 17900 kbps.

Now:
KKTV-HD: 11000
MyKKTV: 2800
KKTV-WX: 1900
Bit Bucket: 3100

CRAP! The Broncos, or any sports motion, will look pathetic at this level...way worse than a prime-time show. Great, KKTV. Who will ever be dying to watch high quality 720p MyKKTV or another weather channel? Arrrggghhh...

ay221 · 09-07-06, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TallGuy

CRAP! The Broncos, or any sports motion, will look pathetic at this level...way worse than a prime-time show. Great, KKTV. Who will ever be dying to watch high quality 720p MyKKTV or another weather channel? Arrrggghhh...

Yeah it stinks. but I think that stupid mykktv (which I dont believe is 720p) is not on full time, so maybe the Sunday Bronco games might be spared. Hopefully Fox and NBC dont get the same stupid idea.

Symbios · 09-07-06, 01:36 PM

Well, as I said in my previous post, they're also working on upping the resolution of My KKTV to 720P (it's at 480i right now). So those numbers are going to get worse.

ay221 · 09-07-06, 04:27 PM

crap, 720p for crap tv. That just plain stinks. Why do they even bother with HD if their gonna do this to it.

wken24 · 09-07-06, 11:46 PM

I live in Pueblo and KKTV had one of the best pictures. Since they turned mykktv on two channels our feed gets blocky now. I have no way of seeing the strength with the built in but it sure did degraid it, maybe they only need to do one channel and keep it at 480 and get some bandwidth back to 11-1. The channel is a good idea but they should have done more testing. My wife made me turn on SD channel 11 it was so bad on the quality with the bits getting messed up.

I am also wanting to know what is going on with KXRM 21-1 and Prison Break has anyone heard anything yet?

TallGuy · 09-08-06, 12:31 AM

I think we're going to need to start calling KKTV...how else will we get heard? I'm OK if they do 90% of the bandwidth to 11-1, 5% to 11-2, 5% to 11-3 -- they need viewers to say this loudly to them.

pg_rider · 09-08-06, 12:56 AM

Can someone compile a list of email addressess and phone numbers for all the locals here in town and post it? I'd certainly be willing to make my voice heard but don't know the best way to contact the stations...

rajkej · 09-08-06, 08:24 AM

I watched part of the football game on my Tivo last night and things were fine until the middle of the 3rd quarter. At that time, I started to get choppy audio. Did anyone else have this issue?

I also noticed the video jumped once in a while as if about 1/2 second of the feed was lost. There was no pause so my assumption is that the encoding side would have generated that issue.

beatboy77 · 09-08-06, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by TallGuy

I think we're going to need to start calling KKTV...how else will we get heard? I'm OK if they do 90% of the bandwidth to 11-1, 5% to 11-2, 5% to 11-3 -- they need viewers to say this loudly to them.

I will definately send emails as well, so count me in. I can agree to this 90/10/10 split. KKTV has to remember that 11.1 is their HD Bread and Butter, especially now since Football season is here.

~Josh

ay221 · 09-08-06, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by rajkej

I watched part of the football game on my Tivo last night and things were fine until the middle of the 3rd quarter. At that time, I started to get choppy audio. Did anyone else have this issue?

I also noticed the video jumped once in a while as if about 1/2 second of the feed was lost. There was no pause so my assumption is that the encoding side would have generated that issue.

Yep audio chopping here.

ay221 · 09-09-06, 01:40 AM

Not sure if you all know this but CBS is broadcasting only 3 HD nfl games a week.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9&page=1&pp=30

M_A_C · 09-10-06, 01:16 PM

I'm getting tons of dropouts using my QAM tuner on Adelphia CBS HD broadcast. Anybody else?

I'm missing the Broncos!!!

TotallyPreWired · 09-10-06, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by M_A_C

I'm getting tons of dropouts using my QAM tuner on Adelphia CBS HD broadcast. Anybody else?

I'm missing the Broncos!!!

Uh, you didn't miss much! What a waste of HD. The lowlights:

Plummer stunk bigtime. Back to '04 status & mistakes...
Shannahan's vaunted offense sucked...
The Defense couldn't tackle(nothing pisses me off more)...
The 'team' needs another month of practice...

See? You didn't miss anything!
....jc

ay221 · 09-10-06, 07:28 PM

The good news is that when the thunderstorm rolled by they only showed the weather alert intermittently like the way stations used to do it. Note I didn't watch the whole game. Do I hear calls for Cutler yet?

beatboy77 · 09-10-06, 09:30 PM

Is anyone else getting a severe blue push in the game tonight on 5.1? The Giant's uniforms are really bleeding blue on my various HD displays.

~Josh

mtnsean · 09-10-06, 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by beatboy77

Is anyone else getting a severe blue push in the game tonight on 5.1? The Giant's uniforms are really bleeding blue on my various HD displays.

~Josh

Hey Josh-

Funny - I came here to ask basically the same thing. I wouldn't exactly call it a blue push on my end because it doesn't seem to carry over to the entire screen for me. But I definitely notice that all the players - Giants and Colts both - have sort of a blueish "halo" or "aura" around them. Happening on both my Panny AE900 and my 32" LCD. Both are fed from HDTivos. This seems to be a KOAA problem - I don't see the halos on NBCW (D* channel 83). The downside is that NBCW has classic D* macroblocking.

-Sean

beatboy77 · 09-11-06, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by mtnsean

Hey Josh-

Funny - I came here to ask basically the same thing. I wouldn't exactly call it a blue push on my end because it doesn't seem to carry over to the entire screen for me. But I definitely notice that all the players - Giants and Colts both - have sort of a blueish "halo" or "aura" around them. Happening on both my Panny AE900 and my 32" LCD. Both are fed from HDTivos. This seems to be a KOAA problem - I don't see the halos on NBCW (D* channel 83). The downside is that NBCW has classic D* macroblocking.

-Sean

Yeah, that is exactly what I am getting with all three of my VIP622's.

~Josh

IdaTex · 09-11-06, 06:10 PM

Has anybody found any answers to getting guide data for 5.1 on their HD Tivo? Thanks to lightning last night I had a couple of brownouts that caused the Tivo to reboot and still no data.

For those screaming about Plummer, remember that he sucked in the first game last year and didn't break your heart again until the AFC Championship. What about Javon Walker dropping a sure touchdown when the two guys covering him knocked each other out of bounds? That cost me 10 points in fantasy!

kbohip · 09-12-06, 06:37 PM

I'd also like to know whats going on with 5-1 guide data. I'm sick of seeing "Regular programming". I mean, it's been over a month now! I'm going to call up Directv and bitch to them about it. Lol, I'll ask them when I'm getting the 6.3 software on my HR10-250 too. I want my folders!

Frank Zimkas · 09-14-06, 01:01 AM

I think the main reason you folks aren't getting guide data for 5.1 is....

You don't have Dishnetwork!!

TallGuy · 09-14-06, 09:22 AM

Ouch, I was waiting for that!

But being DirecTV people, we can record 2 OTA channels at once, we have TiVo, and we have NFL Sunday Ticket available to comfort us in our frustration! (And we have terrible HD PQ too...)

TallGuy · 09-14-06, 09:28 AM

Seriously, on the D* no guide data issue for KOAA HD, we need to break through the finger-pointing cycle of DirecTV, KOAA, Zap2It and Tribune Media Services - it's like they're all sitting in a circle pointing to the guy on their right...

I clicked through Zap2It.com a bit to the Tribune Media Services information (which according to the other thread here on AVS is truly who supplies the guide data to our D* boxes). With my work schedule I don't know when I'll be able to pursue this, but maybe one of you with a more flexible schedule during the week could make some headway with these people?

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Originally Posted by http://tms.tribune.com/contacts.html

Zap2it Electronic Program Guides
John Kelleher — General Manager, EPG (800.523.8923)
Deanne Petts — Regional Sales Director (888.867.5595)
Andrew Heinz — Executive Director, New Media (772.340.3642)

I do think that this shouldbe worked out between KOAA and DirecTV directly, but that seems doubtful that either of them are motivated. The engineering guy at KOAA told me, "Yeah, I've heard about that problem from other viewers, but we don't have a DirecTV box to see what's happening. We're putting out good data in the OTA stream so that's all we have to do. I did call DirecTV once and they didn't know what I was talking about, so I gave up." So that angle is not likely to resolve it, though we could keep up the pressue on KOAA and DirecTV in case we bump into someone who understands this.

mrtolles · 09-14-06, 10:18 AM

Adelphcast's INHD2??? Any other Adelphiacast customers loose their INHD2 channel 702? I have not had it for a couple days now. My father in law also is missing his. I called yesterday at work and they said it should be there, suggested i restart my Moxi. I did that last night and still no INHD2.

pg_rider · 09-14-06, 02:07 PM

Yep, channel 702 is gone...

ay221 · 09-14-06, 02:53 PM

I get my 5.1 guide data just fine on my Sony OTA PVR.

Symbios · 09-14-06, 03:44 PM

Well that's because there's nothing wrong with the OTA guide data. From what I've gathered, this is strictly a D* issue.

Although, right now I've got no guide data for KOAA... But I think that's because KGWN's PSIP data is clashing with KOAA's data, and my receiver doesn't know which one to go with. It seems more often than not, my tuner chooses to go with KGWN's info, which doesn't help me at all!

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Rmassey AVS Special Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 1,780	Oh this is just pathetic..... watching MyKKTV at 7:20 pm, they have spanish and english audio playing at the same time with an echo on both audio tracks..... I think this is the program 'Desire' per the MyKKTV website. Too funny, but so sad at the same time.

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TallGuy TiVo addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 1,245	I think we're going to need to start calling KKTV...how else will we get heard? I'm OK if they do 90% of the bandwidth to 11-1, 5% to 11-2, 5% to 11-3 -- they need viewers to say this loudly to them. __________________ COLO. SPRINGS HD: Multicasting: 0.9 NBC KOAA 0.9 FOX KXRM 0.9 CBS KKTV 0.7 ABC KRDO No DD5.1! 0.1 PBS KTSC SD/low power =3.5 HD stations

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rajkej Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Woodmoor, CO Posts: 57	KOAA audio problems last night? I watched part of the football game on my Tivo last night and things were fine until the middle of the 3rd quarter. At that time, I started to get choppy audio. Did anyone else have this issue? I also noticed the video jumped once in a while as if about 1/2 second of the feed was lost. There was no pause so my assumption is that the encoding side would have generated that issue.

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ay221 AVS Special Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,195	Not sure if you all know this but CBS is broadcasting only 3 HD nfl games a week. http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...9&page=1&pp=30

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M_A_C Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 63	I'm getting tons of dropouts using my QAM tuner on Adelphia CBS HD broadcast. Anybody else? I'm missing the Broncos!!! Last edited by M_A_C; 09-10-06 at 01:24 PM..

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Busystitcher New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3	Still no center/front audio on Comcast box(Moto) channel 654 (11-1) when its in HD during CSI-NY tonight. Commercials and 4:3 still come through. Thanks - RJO and royrose - for confirming its the signal out of KKTV.

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Symbios Below Average Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bennett, CO Posts: 1,177	Well, as I said in my previous post, they're also working on upping the resolution of My KKTV to 720P (it's at 480i right now). So those numbers are going to get worse.

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ay221 AVS Special Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,195	crap, 720p for crap tv. That just plain stinks. Why do they even bother with HD if their gonna do this to it.

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wken24 New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: pueblo, co Posts: 7	I live in Pueblo and KKTV had one of the best pictures. Since they turned mykktv on two channels our feed gets blocky now. I have no way of seeing the strength with the built in but it sure did degraid it, maybe they only need to do one channel and keep it at 480 and get some bandwidth back to 11-1. The channel is a good idea but they should have done more testing. My wife made me turn on SD channel 11 it was so bad on the quality with the bits getting messed up. I am also wanting to know what is going on with KXRM 21-1 and Prison Break has anyone heard anything yet?

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pg_rider Advanced Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 601	Can someone compile a list of email addressess and phone numbers for all the locals here in town and post it? I'd certainly be willing to make my voice heard but don't know the best way to contact the stations...

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ay221 AVS Special Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,195	The good news is that when the thunderstorm rolled by they only showed the weather alert intermittently like the way stations used to do it. Note I didn't watch the whole game. Do I hear calls for Cutler yet?

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beatboy77 HT Aficionado AVS CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 2,901 Classified Rating: 100% (19)	Is anyone else getting a severe blue push in the game tonight on 5.1? The Giant's uniforms are really bleeding blue on my various HD displays. ~Josh __________________ www.hidefpreview.com

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IdaTex New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 6	KOAA HD Tivo Guide Data Has anybody found any answers to getting guide data for 5.1 on their HD Tivo? Thanks to lightning last night I had a couple of brownouts that caused the Tivo to reboot and still no data. For those screaming about Plummer, remember that he sucked in the first game last year and didn't break your heart again until the AFC Championship. What about Javon Walker dropping a sure touchdown when the two guys covering him knocked each other out of bounds? That cost me 10 points in fantasy!

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kbohip Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 39	I'd also like to know whats going on with 5-1 guide data. I'm sick of seeing "Regular programming". I mean, it's been over a month now! I'm going to call up Directv and bitch to them about it. Lol, I'll ask them when I'm getting the 6.3 software on my HR10-250 too. I want my folders! __________________ Freedom isn't free....unless you're Iraqi!

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Frank Zimkas Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Colorado Posts: 930	I think the main reason you folks aren't getting guide data for 5.1 is.... You don't have Dishnetwork!! __________________ I got some junk scattered around the house...

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TallGuy TiVo addict Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 1,245	Ouch, I was waiting for that! But being DirecTV people, we can record 2 OTA channels at once, we have TiVo, and we have NFL Sunday Ticket available to comfort us in our frustration! (And we have terrible HD PQ too...) __________________ COLO. SPRINGS HD: Multicasting: 0.9 NBC KOAA 0.9 FOX KXRM 0.9 CBS KKTV 0.7 ABC KRDO No DD5.1! 0.1 PBS KTSC SD/low power =3.5 HD stations

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mrtolles Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 45	Adelphcast's INHD2??? Any other Adelphiacast customers loose their INHD2 channel 702? I have not had it for a couple days now. My father in law also is missing his. I called yesterday at work and they said it should be there, suggested i restart my Moxi. I did that last night and still no INHD2.

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pg_rider Advanced Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Colorado Springs, CO Posts: 601	Yep, channel 702 is gone...

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ay221 AVS Special Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,195	I get my 5.1 guide data just fine on my Sony OTA PVR.

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Symbios Below Average Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Bennett, CO Posts: 1,177	Well that's because there's nothing wrong with the OTA guide data. From what I've gathered, this is strictly a D* issue. Although, right now I've got no guide data for KOAA... But I think that's because KGWN's PSIP data is clashing with KOAA's data, and my receiver doesn't know which one to go with. It seems more often than not, my tuner chooses to go with KGWN's info, which doesn't help me at all!