Screenshot War!!!!!!!!

WTS · 10-30-09, 10:40 PM

I think maybe your photo skills have probably gotten better as well.

nashou66 · 10-31-09, 12:03 AM

i noticed something about my Lg BH200 Multiblue player, when it pauses it creates like a video noise which blurs the image a bit. I need to put the Lumagen back into the chain and use its freeze function the Tv-ones have it but trying to freeze two units at the same time is impossible!

well here are some Aeon Flux shots Enjoy

nashou66 · 10-31-09, 12:05 AM

some more....

Athanasios

mp20748 · 10-31-09, 07:11 AM

More at the larger sized image

Pure 1080P into my CRT

mp20748 · 10-31-09, 08:17 PM

A new kid (mod) is on the block....

nashou66 · 10-31-09, 11:30 PM

Chronicles of Ridick. I did some more messing around, not too much progress but some. One thing for sue is even the new longbows need some modifying, i need to first do the HVPS as there is back ground noise there that i don't have in my older marquee's that I did do the modification to. those carbon comp resistors are much noisier than the Ohmite ceramics.

Now on this one if you compare it to VPHG90's , its much darker, to match his i would have to raise brightness up to 80, mine is at 53. there is no way he has FFTB as even at 53 i do not.

Some more: I can't wait till they add gamma control to the C2-2xxx series. it help out a lot.

This is my Favorite of the bunch: I think the camera was able to focus the best on this one, thats one thing about auto focus, the depth of field of the image on the screen can trick the camera to where to focus.

Nashou

mp20748 · 11-01-09, 08:02 AM

Here we go. No sharpening, no nothing. Straight from the camera un-touched!

Gamma in the FullHD completely disabled.

Pure 1080P > Moome FullHD > Marquee 9500LC Ultra

VPH-G90 · 11-01-09, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nashou66

Nice VP!!!, But what's your source? You need to adjust your timings to help get rid of the ringing on the left side. Or if you have room move the image over to give the beam time to calm down before the image scan. But MAN those colors look great!!!!

Athanasios

Ok athanasios in fact you were right for the ringing on the left side !!
I corrected the problem

VPH-G90 · 11-01-09, 02:47 PM

mike you have the ringing on the left side lol

nashou66 · 11-01-09, 03:03 PM

Ringing for high scan rates is one of the hardest things for CRT's to overcome. You want to be able to keep the entire image but still give the beam enough time to calm down from its flyback. Increasing the back porch helps but you could run into the problem of cutting off some of the image.

Nashou

VPH-G90 · 11-01-09, 03:07 PM

Sony G90 just shapness with toshiba xe1 and crystalio2
1920x817p 72

VPH-G90 · 11-01-09, 03:19 PM

VPH-G90 · 11-01-09, 04:53 PM

VPH-G90 · 11-01-09, 05:04 PM

the dark is.... dark

VPH-G90 · 11-01-09, 05:36 PM

overclkr · 11-01-09, 10:15 PM

VPH-G90 · 11-02-09, 03:06 PM

Mr Bob · 11-02-09, 03:33 PM

Wow!

b

mp20748 · 11-02-09, 07:50 PM

I'm all tweaked out..

Full 1080P > Moome V2 > My marquee 9500LC

v1rtu0s1ty · 11-02-09, 09:39 PM

MP, it's looking great!!!

v1rtu0s1ty · 11-02-09, 11:58 PM

1272-1920x880@72hz

SteveMo · 11-03-09, 01:22 AM

Check the less obvious MP. You will be fine.

mp20748 · 11-03-09, 08:07 PM

nashou66 · 11-03-09, 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by v1rtu0s1ty

1272-1920x880@72hz

Nice! looks like you were able to keep the geometry close. I think you should look for a used Lumagen scaler when you save up some scratch.

Mike Nice last shot !!

Still thinking of sending me a Vim to play with?

Athanasios

mp20748 · 11-05-09, 06:24 AM

Here we go again...

Last night I made some changes to the Marquee that totally separated the VIM (video input module) from the projectors power rails. The VIM is now powered by two (+/-5v - +/-12v) very low noise power supplies now mounted on a small wooden board and setting on the top of the projector. Next I'll look at doing the same for the next boards.

The changes on this end are obvious, the image is extremely cleaner and even more dimensional. Gamma is disabled (removed) on the Moome card.

I can now see how terrible my lenses (HD-10L) are and will also look at the GT-17's again sometime soon.

Pure 1080P - NOT sharpened

nashou66 · 11-05-09, 08:52 AM

Wait till you build the 85 volt power supply Like Jea Hong Lee did way back when.

here is his Blog, on the left side you'll see 9500LC click on that, he has schematics for all the voltage power supplies and pics.

http://blog.paran.com/pcaudio#

Use a google translator from Korean to English

Here is his Vim Power supplies:

Athanasios

Paul Butler · 11-05-09, 11:58 AM

Thats one Marquee mod I WON'T be doing

You two (Nash and MP) - stop encouraging each other! Just sit back and WATCH the movie!

No real chance of that is there!? I'd be as well talking to the wall (or the wife!).

mp20748 · 11-05-09, 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul Butler

Thats one Marquee mod I WON'T be doing

Neither will I, or would I be doing anything to the 85 volt rail.

I have two small switching power supplies connected to the VIM and located on top of the Marquee near the mount. And that's as bizarre as it'll get for me.

The Linear supplies sound good for the VIM, but it's not the best way to go if you're trying to get around the LVPS in the projector.

I'm using two VERY clean and small dual switching power supplies and the end results is well worth whatever I went through to make it happen.

nashou66 · 11-05-09, 12:23 PM

I bet if you did use linear on your moded Vims mike it be even better. Even the cleanest SMPS can have more noise than a well thought out linear supply from what i read.

Athanasios

mp20748 · 11-05-09, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nashou66

I bet if you did use linear on your moded Vims mike it be even better. Even the cleanest SMPS can have more noise than a well thought out linear supply from what i read.

Athanasios

The weekend I'll fire up the scope and set up both probes at equal amplitude. From there I'll measure the load from an linear supply as well a one of the switching supplies I've mentioned.

I'll post a screen-shot showing the results. Linear should have lower noise, but that's not what I measured.

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nashou66 West Seneca NY Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Seneca, NY Posts: 3,103	i noticed something about my Lg BH200 Multiblue player, when it pauses it creates like a video noise which blurs the image a bit. I need to put the Lumagen back into the chain and use its freeze function the Tv-ones have it but trying to freeze two units at the same time is impossible! well here are some Aeon Flux shots Enjoy __________________ Marquee Bellows Love this CRT addiction !!! Comming soon Blendzillas nemisis Rodan-O-Blend !!!! Last edited by nashou66; 10-31-09 at 12:13 AM..

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nashou66 West Seneca NY Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Seneca, NY Posts: 3,103	Chronicles of Ridick. I did some more messing around, not too much progress but some. One thing for sue is even the new longbows need some modifying, i need to first do the HVPS as there is back ground noise there that i don't have in my older marquee's that I did do the modification to. those carbon comp resistors are much noisier than the Ohmite ceramics. Now on this one if you compare it to VPHG90's , its much darker, to match his i would have to raise brightness up to 80, mine is at 53. there is no way he has FFTB as even at 53 i do not. Some more: I can't wait till they add gamma control to the C2-2xxx series. it help out a lot. This is my Favorite of the bunch: I think the camera was able to focus the best on this one, thats one thing about auto focus, the depth of field of the image on the screen can trick the camera to where to focus. Nashou __________________ Marquee Bellows Love this CRT addiction !!! Comming soon Blendzillas nemisis Rodan-O-Blend !!!!

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mp20748 9500LC Ultra / Moome Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Maryland Posts: 5,773	Here we go again... Last night I made some changes to the Marquee that totally separated the VIM (video input module) from the projectors power rails. The VIM is now powered by two (+/-5v - +/-12v) very low noise power supplies now mounted on a small wooden board and setting on the top of the projector. Next I'll look at doing the same for the next boards. The changes on this end are obvious, the image is extremely cleaner and even more dimensional. Gamma is disabled (removed) on the Moome card. I can now see how terrible my lenses (HD-10L) are and will also look at the GT-17's again sometime soon. Pure 1080P - NOT sharpened __________________ Mp It's all about performance.. Got Marquee?

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nashou66 West Seneca NY Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Seneca, NY Posts: 3,103	Wait till you build the 85 volt power supply Like Jea Hong Lee did way back when. here is his Blog, on the left side you'll see 9500LC click on that, he has schematics for all the voltage power supplies and pics. http://blog.paran.com/pcaudio# Use a google translator from Korean to English Here is his Vim Power supplies: Athanasios __________________ Marquee Bellows Love this CRT addiction !!! Comming soon Blendzillas nemisis Rodan-O-Blend !!!! Last edited by nashou66; 11-05-09 at 09:22 AM..

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nashou66 West Seneca NY Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: West Seneca, NY Posts: 3,103	I bet if you did use linear on your moded Vims mike it be even better. Even the cleanest SMPS can have more noise than a well thought out linear supply from what i read. Athanasios __________________ Marquee Bellows Love this CRT addiction !!! Comming soon Blendzillas nemisis Rodan-O-Blend !!!!