Philips BDP 7200 owners thread

Scoob · 04-25-08, 07:45 PM

Well folks it finally came. The box was a bit thrashed, but it seems fine. I've just started tests on this unit, but here is what I know so far. I loaded Independance Day (I will do a comprehensive post on load times a bit later) I was dying to know if this unit bitsteams DTS HD MA..............Good news it does. See pics below. More to come guys!

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...m/DSCF0122.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...m/DSCF0130.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...m/DSCF0131.jpg
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...m/DSCF0132.jpg

lrstevens421 · 04-25-08, 07:48 PM

Great news, keep the reviews coming

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lrstevens421 · 04-25-08, 07:58 PM

Scoob, how's the load times?

Scoob · 04-25-08, 08:03 PM

http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...m/DSCF0133.jpg
It also bitstreams Dolby TrueHD. Watching Dave Matthews live. Man it sounds great!!!!!!!!!!!

Scoob · 04-25-08, 08:06 PM

Comprehensive times coming.......Independance day took over a minute...Bummer. But no audio or video glitches. Man, I swear the bitstreamed audio sounds better than PCM.......probably not really. It's probably my imagination.

canuckerfan · 04-25-08, 08:12 PM

if any of you guys can compare... how's the PQ like, relatively?

GizmoDVD · 04-25-08, 08:27 PM

could this be better then the BD30?

Scoob · 04-25-08, 08:36 PM

Power on to tray open- 17 secs (edit, if you turn on the machine with the tray open button)
Ratatouille- 42 secs to splash screen, 65 seconds to video (total)
Night at the Museum-33 secs to splash, 42 secs to video (total)
Pirates 1- 50 secs to menu

Scoob · 04-25-08, 08:40 PM

The BD-J menus are flawless.........no stuttering or hiccups. (ID4, Ratatouille, Pirates 1 and 2 were tested) Very smooth. Also some have asked about PQ.....It looks as good or better than the PS3. However, I'm not a good one to ask because I am using a 50" Sony LCD. (1366 x 768) The manual says it does 1080p24. Also one thing I like is the remote has an audio button which will tell you what audio format you are in and allow you to thumb through and change the setting.

lrstevens421 · 04-25-08, 08:40 PM

Seems comparable to the load times on the BD30 & Denon 2500. Thanks for the info.

Scoob · 04-25-08, 09:13 PM

I popped in Revenge of the Sith. It looks very good to me. This weekend I can do some side by side's with the PS3. I have to be honest guys, I'm not the best guy to evaluate SD DVD quality. Maybe someone with a bigger screen can give better info on this. I think it looks great though. One thing, for you guys who like to output your standard DVD's at 480i, the menu gives you the option of doing so.

lrstevens421 · 04-25-08, 09:15 PM

Is there an option to output the native resolution of the disc (source direct)?

Scoob · 04-25-08, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by lrstevens421

Is there an option to output the native resolution of the disc (source direct)?

Not sure, but I will check. I'm going to watch an entire movie now to check for audio/video dropouts. EDIT- I watched the entire movie ID4. No issues at all........... it played perfectly. That is good news initially. DTS MA sounded great.

canuckerfan · 04-25-08, 09:56 PM

thanks Scoob. this player looks pretty solid. Also, I believe there's already a fw update for it. Philips always had a history of releasing firmwares routinely. Let's hope this trend continues.

Jon Spackman · 04-25-08, 10:06 PM

Please report if there is a Direct mode that outputs 1080p24 (or 1080p60 for you) and then 480i on SD without changing any settings.

Also can you please test whether it has video on composite when using HDMI, so IE if you are watching a blu ray at 1080p and you hook up composite, will it have video like the BD30 or Sony S1?

Thanks and enjoy your new player.

Scoob · 04-26-08, 01:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Spackman

Please report if there is a Direct mode that outputs 1080p24 (or 1080p60 for you) and then 480i on SD without changing any settings.

Also can you please test whether it has video on composite when using HDMI, so IE if you are watching a blu ray at 1080p and you hook up composite, will it have video like the BD30 or Sony S1?

Thanks and enjoy your new player.

After fiddling around and reading the owners manual, I don't think there is "direct mode" What I do know is that in the menu setting "HDMI video output" there is a 1080p/fps setting. If you turn it to OFF, you get 60fps. If you turn it to ON, you get 1080p24 automatically if if 1) the frame rate of the source is 1080p24 2) HDMI video resolution is set to 1080p and 3) if your TV supports 24fps output. (That from the owners manual) As far as the 480i setting I am confused from reading the owners manual. I think what I said a few posts earlier was incorrect. It says in the owners manual that if "480p output is not available, then 480i will be output" But it also says that "when an HDMI cable is connected, only 480i and the resolution selected in the HDMI video output will be available. Clear as mud?

Scoob · 04-26-08, 01:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Spackman

Also can you please test whether it has video on composite when using HDMI, so IE if you are watching a blu ray at 1080p and you hook up composite, will it have video like the BD30 or Sony S1?

Tested this out and the answer is yes it does output video from composite at the same time.

Jon, would it be inappropriate to sticky this as it may be helpful to folks as players start to trickle in?

Scoob · 04-26-08, 10:48 AM

A couple more items. I said earlier that ON to tray opening was about 20 seconds. Well I found out that if the machine is off and you push the tray open button it turns the unit on, and the tray opens at 17 seconds! Also, I played Cars in it's entirety, it worked flawlessly. This machine cranks through the java menus. Also, I threw is a few audio CD's and they also worked great....no issues at all. It's too bad I don't have any Divx material or MP3 DVD's, I would test those out as well.

wakashizuma · 04-26-08, 12:07 PM

Can you please check to see if it reads Divx from DVD+RW?

GizmoDVD · 04-26-08, 02:22 PM

Looks like a solid player for a great price.

Bill C. · 04-26-08, 02:28 PM

So is this a Profile 1.1 player, then, or a really fast 1.0 player?

Jon Spackman · 04-26-08, 02:30 PM

scoob, can you play some of hte tough material: Sunshine, RE:A, I am legend. Stuff that has given dropouts on other players.

Thanks

lrstevens421 · 04-26-08, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C.

So is this a Profile 1.1 player, then, or a really fast 1.0 player?

1.1

Bill C. · 04-26-08, 02:51 PM

Ah, okay, thanks.

What's the build construction like, for what that's worth?

Scoob · 04-26-08, 06:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Spackman

scoob, can you play some of hte tough material: Sunshine, RE:A, I am legend. Stuff that has given dropouts on other players.

Thanks

I don't have any of those, but I'll try to get my hands on I am Legend. BTW, what is RE:A?

Bill C. · 04-26-08, 07:11 PM

Probably Resident Evil: Apocalypse.

Scoob · 04-26-08, 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill C.

Probably Resident Evil: Apocalypse.

Ah yes. That must be the bonus view title correct?

Nevada_MO_Guy · 04-26-08, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Scoob

I was dying to know if this unit bitsteams DTS HD MA..............Good news it does.

Good to know, thanks for that.

Has there been any word on what chip Philips is using in this player?
Broadcom, Sigma, UniPhier?

Scoob · 04-27-08, 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jon Spackman

scoob, can you play some of hte tough material: Sunshine, RE:A, I am legend. Stuff that has given dropouts on other players.

Thanks

I went out to Hollywood video to rent those three titles....The only one I could get my hands on is I am Legend. They don't have either of the other three. Anyhoo, I put in I am Legend and bitstreamed Dolby True HD without any lockups or stutters. So far so good. It was also brought to my attention that there is already a firmware update for this player. I checked my machine for the firmware version and sure enough the one on the website is a newer version than mine. I'm almost afraid to download it as my machine hasn't even blinked.

One question for the rest of you. Since Sam's Club is selling this for 334.00, do you guys think that everyone else will still sell it at 399.00?

Bill C. · 04-27-08, 10:08 AM

Circuit City is still listing it for $399.99 as of now (as a pre-order item, arrival 5/7)...apart from Sam's, the next cheapest is around $379 online. Engadget's original article about the BDP7200 says it was supposed to have an MSRP of $349.99, but Philips' own CES press release said $399.99. I'm assuming Engadget was misinformed, or Philips blinked at the last second, and we'll probably be stuck at the $399.99 price point for a while...though that doesn't explain Sam's pricing, does it? Asleep at the wheel?

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Scoob Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boise ID Posts: 917	Philips BDP 7200 owners thread Well folks it finally came. The box was a bit thrashed, but it seems fine. I've just started tests on this unit, but here is what I know so far. I loaded Independance Day (I will do a comprehensive post on load times a bit later) I was dying to know if this unit bitsteams DTS HD MA..............Good news it does. See pics below. More to come guys! http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...m/DSCF0122.jpg http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...m/DSCF0130.jpg http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...m/DSCF0131.jpg http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...m/DSCF0132.jpg

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lrstevens421 AVS Special Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Big Apple Posts: 3,650	Great news, keep the reviews coming . __________________ Making the most out of what I got.

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Scoob Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boise ID Posts: 917	Dolby TrueHD... check http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/l...m/DSCF0133.jpg It also bitstreams Dolby TrueHD. Watching Dave Matthews live. Man it sounds great!!!!!!!!!!!

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Scoob Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boise ID Posts: 917	Comprehensive times coming.......Independance day took over a minute...Bummer. But no audio or video glitches. Man, I swear the bitstreamed audio sounds better than PCM.......probably not really. It's probably my imagination.

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GizmoDVD AVS Special Member AVS CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 3,260 Classified Rating: 100% (2)	could this be better then the BD30? __________________ HD DVD = XA1, A30 / 354 Discs Blu-ray = LG BD390 / 238 Discs (As of 8/25/09) XBL: SharpWoodenStke

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Scoob Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boise ID Posts: 917	some load times Power on to tray open- 17 secs (edit, if you turn on the machine with the tray open button) Ratatouille- 42 secs to splash screen, 65 seconds to video (total) Night at the Museum-33 secs to splash, 42 secs to video (total) Pirates 1- 50 secs to menu Last edited by Scoob; 05-08-08 at 02:14 PM..

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Scoob Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boise ID Posts: 917	Java Menus The BD-J menus are flawless.........no stuttering or hiccups. (ID4, Ratatouille, Pirates 1 and 2 were tested) Very smooth. Also some have asked about PQ.....It looks as good or better than the PS3. However, I'm not a good one to ask because I am using a 50" Sony LCD. (1366 x 768) The manual says it does 1080p24. Also one thing I like is the remote has an audio button which will tell you what audio format you are in and allow you to thumb through and change the setting.

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lrstevens421 AVS Special Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Big Apple Posts: 3,650	Seems comparable to the load times on the BD30 & Denon 2500. Thanks for the info. __________________ Making the most out of what I got.

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Scoob Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boise ID Posts: 917	SD DVD's I popped in Revenge of the Sith. It looks very good to me. This weekend I can do some side by side's with the PS3. I have to be honest guys, I'm not the best guy to evaluate SD DVD quality. Maybe someone with a bigger screen can give better info on this. I think it looks great though. One thing, for you guys who like to output your standard DVD's at 480i, the menu gives you the option of doing so.

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lrstevens421 AVS Special Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: The Big Apple Posts: 3,650	Is there an option to output the native resolution of the disc (source direct)? __________________ Making the most out of what I got.

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canuckerfan Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 26	thanks Scoob. this player looks pretty solid. Also, I believe there's already a fw update for it. Philips always had a history of releasing firmwares routinely. Let's hope this trend continues.

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Jon Spackman AVS HD DVD/BD Moderator AVS GOLD CLUB MEMBER Join Date: May 2002 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 2,100 Classified Rating: 100% (5)	Please report if there is a Direct mode that outputs 1080p24 (or 1080p60 for you) and then 480i on SD without changing any settings. Also can you please test whether it has video on composite when using HDMI, so IE if you are watching a blu ray at 1080p and you hook up composite, will it have video like the BD30 or Sony S1? Thanks and enjoy your new player. __________________ Just enjoy HD in whatever form you can (Sat, Cable, D-VHS, OTA, HD DVD, or BD).

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Scoob Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Boise ID Posts: 917	A couple more items. I said earlier that ON to tray opening was about 20 seconds. Well I found out that if the machine is off and you push the tray open button it turns the unit on, and the tray opens at 17 seconds! Also, I played Cars in it's entirety, it worked flawlessly. This machine cranks through the java menus. Also, I threw is a few audio CD's and they also worked great....no issues at all. It's too bad I don't have any Divx material or MP3 DVD's, I would test those out as well.

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Jon Spackman AVS HD DVD/BD Moderator AVS GOLD CLUB MEMBER Join Date: May 2002 Location: Burbank, CA Posts: 2,100 Classified Rating: 100% (5)	scoob, can you play some of hte tough material: Sunshine, RE:A, I am legend. Stuff that has given dropouts on other players. Thanks __________________ Just enjoy HD in whatever form you can (Sat, Cable, D-VHS, OTA, HD DVD, or BD).