Updated:Kill Bill 1 & 2 in September 2008 in US/Specs and Question thread

[eric.exe]

Originally Posted by BStecke

I can see it in that pic, but it's a lot less noticeable. What kind of display do you have?

facepalm

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by eric.exe

facepalm

My bad . . . thanks for adding something constructive.

[Franin]

Originally Posted by eric.exe

facepalm

whats facepalm?

[shadowrage]

I wonder if the HD colorspace has anything to do with that. Since shadow detail is frakking awesome on HDM(on good titles). I never saw any sort of body outline when I saw it in theaters or on the dvd(does the DVD look like that too?). I guess it's supposed to be completely black, but damn HD it can show stuff that's super black.

If you crank the brightness on a display will that blocking be more noticeable?

Originally Posted by Franin

whats facepalm?

It's exactly what it sounds like. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/facepalm

Apparently you can put two nouns together to form a new single word that functions as a verb, like 'headdesk'(guess what that means?).

[lgans316]

Originally Posted by shadowrage

I wonder if the HD colorspace has anything to do with that. Since shadow detail is frakking awesome on HDM(on good titles). I never saw any sort of body outline when I saw it in theaters or on the dvd(does the DVD look like that too?). I guess it's supposed to be completely black, but damn HD it can show stuff that's super black.

If you crank the brightness on a display will that blocking be more noticeable?

Could be. My 37" plasma looks to be vulnerable to false contouring whilst my 50" seems to get rid off them. I think cranking the black levels may increase or decrease the false contouring depending upon the luminosity.

I will check for the reported artifact in a Kuro this week.

[Franin]

Originally Posted by shadowrage

It's exactly what it sounds like. http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/facepalm

Apparently you can put two nouns together to form a new single word that functions as a verb, like 'headdesk'(guess what that means?).

Excuse my ignorance but I had to ask as it was my first time I ever seen it used in a Post.I thought it meant something else i did not think it was literally.

[jvillain]

Well either way it looks like it is there. The degree to which it is noticable on a given display is the question. Because they use calibrated displays through the process, hopefully people with calibrated displays will not notice it as much. I guess I'll find out when the disks arrive.

This is to bad though as banding is one of those things that drives me absolutely nuts. My satellite provider has dropped the bit rate so much that HD stuff on the HD movie channels some times looks like a paint by number coloring book.

[Franin]

Originally Posted by jvillain

Well either way it looks like it is there. The degree to which it is noticable on a given display is the question. Because they use calibrated displays through the process, hopefully people with calibrated displays will not notice it as much. I guess I'll find out when the disks arrive.

This is to bad though as banding is one of those things that drives me absolutely nuts. My satellite provider has dropped the bit rate so much that HD stuff on the HD movie channels some times looks like a paint by number coloring book.

Well if I had my 60" LG rear projection TV I can gurantee i would see heaps of blockage,especially in dark scenes. I remeber pitch Black drove me nuts. But with my JVC HD1 shining on my Stewart Studio tech 130 professionally calibrated I don't see it.

I tell you know if I did I will be the first to put my hands up.

[SlaughterX]

It's probably already been answered, but what's the deal with the rebate? How much is it for exactly and is it for both volumes? I sitll need to mail in my Con-Air and The Rock rebates, if I haven't already waited too long...

[Kram Sacul]

Originally Posted by eric.exe

Even though the capture is expanded to 0-255 pc levels I think if the dark gradients and other artifacts on that shot are visible your display has elevated shadow detail and/or the contrast is cranked too high. Example:

[Art Sonneborn]

I just watched Kill Bill vol1 tonight. This is the best HD transfer I'e ever seen. The blacks were deep,the colors rich,saturated yet subtle and the detail was throuh the roof. This is demo material all the way with the incredible colorful and clean anime just jaw dropping. This smoked Speed Racer IMO.

Art

[DCSholtis]

I'm getting the French TF1 steelbook releases so I'll be able to report on any difference I can see.

[Blacklac]

Originally Posted by DCSholtis

I'm getting the French TF1 steelbook releases so I'll be able to report on any difference I can see.

ooohhh, nice, please do. I know a thread that would love those results.

[357]

Without a doubt Kill Bill is a beast.

[Megalith]

The video quality did not stand out for me, but the dynamics in the audio tracks did.

I think they overdid the bass though.

[Dave Mack]

Gotta check it out based on Art's recc...

[Jay Mammoth]

Not the best PQ I've seen (Though very nice) the audio quality though is among the if not the best I've heard so far.

[Franin]

Originally Posted by Art Sonneborn

I just watched Kill Bill vol1 tonight. This is the best HD transfer I'e ever seen. The blacks were deep,the colors rich,saturated yet subtle and the detail was throuh the roof. This is demo material all the way with the incredible colorful and clean anime just jaw dropping. This smoked Speed Racer IMO.

Art

I agree, the sound was also very impressive.

[Johnsteph10]

Originally Posted by Dave Mack

Gotta check it out based on Art's recc...

Ditto.

[mr007]

post some pics

[Gekkou]

Originally Posted by Art Sonneborn

I just watched Kill Bill vol1 tonight. This is the best HD transfer I'e ever seen. The blacks were deep,the colors rich,saturated yet subtle and the detail was throuh the roof. This is demo material all the way with the incredible colorful and clean anime just jaw dropping. This smoked Speed Racer IMO.

Art

One scene that really stood out to me was the one where the Bride is riding the motorcycle through Tokyo just before the House of Blue Leaves. It just leaps off the screen.

[aham23]

Originally Posted by Art Sonneborn

I just watched Kill Bill vol1 tonight. This is the best HD transfer I'e ever seen. The blacks were deep,the colors rich,saturated yet subtle and the detail was throuh the roof. This is demo material all the way with the incredible colorful and clean anime just jaw dropping. This smoked Speed Racer IMO.

Art

sweet. of course your set up is da bomb too! i just received vol. 1 and 2 from Amazon and cant wait to watch them.

[Kris Deering]

Originally Posted by Art Sonneborn

I just watched Kill Bill vol1 tonight. This is the best HD transfer I'e ever seen. The blacks were deep,the colors rich,saturated yet subtle and the detail was throuh the roof. This is demo material all the way with the incredible colorful and clean anime just jaw dropping. This smoked Speed Racer IMO.

Art

Ditto Art. In fact, we just put it in our 5 best for picture quality for our year end report.

[rsra13]

Finally I was able to watch Vol. 1
I love the movie and it looked and sounded great. A little bit disappointed with the extras, I wish the trailers were in HD.

[Art Sonneborn]

Originally Posted by Kris Deering

Ditto Art. In fact, we just put it in our 5 best for picture quality for our year end report.

I just kept saying outloud "this is just gorgeous".

Art

[djoberg]

Originally Posted by Megalith

The video quality did not stand out for me, but the dynamics in the audio tracks did. (I agree with you Art!)

I think they overdid the bass though.

I FINALLY got around to watching Kill Bill Vol. 1...simply amazing! In other words, the video quality DID stand out for me!

I do agree with you on the audio though...except I thought the bass was excellent all the way through. I'm using a Velodyne sub...what are you using?

Viewed on a Samsung 1080p DLP using a Panasonic BD30 from 8'.

PS I'm setting up Vol. 2 right after I click Submit Reply. I have one those luxury days where I can watch 2 awesome Blu-rays back-to-back.

[RDarrylR]

These 2 Blu-rays are simply amazing!

[lgans316]

Whiggles (Michael Mackenzie) has posted his review at dvdtimes.co.uk

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content/id...s-1-and-2.html

Kill Bill was treated to a digital intermediate, which caused Tarantino, who felt that the end result was overly clean, some misgivings. The cleanness to which he was referring is, I suspect, due to a grain reduction pass, the results of which are unfortunately readily apparent more or less consistently throughout the film. This takes the form of “sluggish” movement of the film grain and some smearing on textures and facial features during fast movement (the grainy monochromatic sequence in the wedding chapel at the start of Volume 2 is worst affected), in addition to some ghosting (particularly prevalent in the animated sequence in Volume 1 which charts the origin of O-Ren). Ultimately, the image looks rather digital and not at all like the films being referenced, with only the deliberately grainy Pai Mei training sequence exhibiting anything close to an unadulterated filmic look.

These quibbles aside, the transfers are of a very high standard. Detail is almost always very good, resulting in the films looking completely different from the very disappointing, overly processed standard definition DVDs. Compression is faultless across the board, and, barring the noise reduction, there is no other evidence of digital tampering, apart from what looks like some light edge enhancement in the snow garden at the end of Volume 1. Overall, both films look very pleasing to the eye, with the flaws that do exist more than likely being the fault of the production house contracted to produce the DI rather than the technicians responsible for the Blu-ray transfers.

[djoberg]

What a treat to be able to watch both Volumes straight through! They are, without a doubt, Demo Material. I just read the review by Whiggles that Igans316 posted and I agree with his "technical analysis" and with his final conclusion that "both films look very pleasing to the eye." In fact, they were so pleasing (i.e., eye candy) I may have gained weight in both eyes!

I just have to mention the audio track once again. Even though Volume 2 contained a lot more dialogue than Volume 1, there was still plenty of material for my surrounds and the LFE material gave my Velodyne sub a real workout. Would I be resorting to hyperbole if I were to say this was definitely one of the best PCM uncompressed tracks to date? I think not!

If someone reading this is holding back at renting or buying these, do yourself a favor and quit procrastinating. Your eyes and ears will be more than gratified!

[Matt_Stevens]

Here is an interesting little tidbit about the popularity of Film 1 to Film 2... KILL BILL V1 is pretty much sold out wherever I check here in NYC. Has been from the first day of release.

But V2 is available everywhere. Boatloads of copies.

Me, I like them both. Remove the stupid, boring, completely not needed Bill's Hispanic accented dad scene and the movie would be perfect.