New UK releases - Terminator 2, Total Recall, Stargate, Cliffhanger, Escape from NY

cybersoga · 07-31-08, 05:53 AM

There's a bunch of titles coming out on blu-ray 4/8 (next week) in the UK from Optimum Home Entertainment, I wonder if they will have better PQ than the US versions:

Terminator 2
Total Recall
Stargate
Cliffhanger
Escape from New York
The Fog
Rambo 1-3

Majestyk · 07-31-08, 07:45 AM

Unless T2 is the extended version I wouldn't care about the PQ.

lgans316 · 07-31-08, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Majestyk

Unless T2 is the extended version I wouldn't care about the PQ.

IMO T2 requires frame-by-frame restoration to prevent Studios from dipping for the 85,881,224th time.

Total Recall - Check dvdactive.com for review
Escape from New York - Check dvdtimes.co.uk and dvdtherapy.com for review
The Fog - Check dvdactive.com and dvdtimes.co.uk for review

msgohan · 07-31-08, 10:11 AM

I preordered T2, Total Recall, Escape from NY, and Rambo 1+2, but they haven't shipped yet. I'll post specs etc. whenever I get them.

T2 is the Special Edition cut aka "Director's Cut".

It appears all of these are direct ports of the Studio Canal HD DVD encodes (some with upgraded audio) despite claims of dual layer discs.

EDIT: The Total Recall review includes MP3s showing that they have indeed fixed the pitch problem the HD DVD had, nice! The screencaps on that page are resized directly from the BD it says, and they match the colors of the HD DVD as expected.

Paul Arnette · 07-31-08, 11:58 AM

Are all these release region free, or at least Region A and B?

grodd · 07-31-08, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cybersoga

There's a bunch of titles coming out on blu-ray 4/8 (next week) in the UK from Optimum Home Entertainment, I wonder if they will have better PQ than the US versions:

Terminator 2
Total Recall
Stargate
Cliffhanger
Escape from New York
The Fog
Rambo 1-3

I ordered Escape from NY. From what I've heard it looks nice. The HDNet transfer was nice so I'm hoping for something on par with that. Don't bother with the Fog, from what I heard its the same as the terrible HD DVD.

zoro · 07-31-08, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Arnette

Are all these release region free, or at least Region A and B?

my concern too, ordered stargate, would like total recall too, if any better than us editions, any reviews yet

gubarenko · 07-31-08, 03:42 PM

ordered stargate and cliffhanger.

Geoff D · 07-31-08, 05:37 PM

The grapevine has it that Cliffhanger is region locked (to B).

msgohan · 07-31-08, 07:45 PM

Stargate and Cliffhanger are supposed to be Region B locked while the others are AB.

Dave Mack · 07-31-08, 08:05 PM

ordered EFNY as it got a pretty good review

http://dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=68349

but sadly The Fog is suppossed to be the same as the previous HDdvd which looks poor and has the pitch issue.

http://dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=68323

homerx · 07-31-08, 08:11 PM

Really would like cliffhanger. But region locked so I will have to wait for the US version. Hope it comes soon

Brian81 · 07-31-08, 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave Mack

ordered EFNY as it got a pretty good review

http://dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=68349

but sadly The Fog is suppossed to be the same as the previous HDdvd which looks poor and has the pitch issue.

http://dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=68323

THE FOG has the pitch issue? It is never listed on the listings of the affected titles...

Can anyone with the DVD post audio samples along with those from the HD DVD? I can tell if there's an issue pretty easily, but I wouldn't know in this case as the HD DVD is the only version of this film that I've owned (and my only point for comparison).

I will likely TRIPLE DIP on all of the pitch issue titles (Total Recall, Basic Instinct, Rambo, etc). Domestic BDs aren't good but have extras, the HD DVDs had far better PQ but botched audio, and word is that these have the better PQ w/o the botched audio...but still no extras. I'll be happy.

Dave Mack · 07-31-08, 10:47 PM

Lots of people who had the HDdvd confirmed the pitch issue. Should be in some threads in that section.

lgans316 · 07-31-08, 11:03 PM

Audio samples for Total Recall posted in dvdactive.com.

zoro · 08-01-08, 01:35 AM

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Originally Posted by msgohan

Stargate and Cliffhanger are supposed to be Region B locked while the others are AB.

where did u see? so no go for US PS3 i guess?

zoro · 08-01-08, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by lgans316

Please check dvdtimes.co.uk

Cliffhanger and Stargate being Region Locked is extremely annoying.:

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Indeed! it is! canceling my order with amazon. How abt upcoming MATRIX BR?

lgans316 · 08-01-08, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by zoro

Indeed! it is! canceling my order with amazon. How abt upcoming MATRIX BR?

No idea but they shouldn't be Region Locked as they are released by Warner.

Paulidan · 08-01-08, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave Mack

Lots of people who had the HDdvd confirmed the pitch issue. Should be in some threads in that section.

I never noticed any pitch issue with my copy, and certainly not on the order of a typical 4% sped up quality. Recently someone bought the UK King Kong (76) HD DVD and said they could detect a glaring pitch issue with that. Again, I'm at a loss as I have that soundtrack ingrained in my skull and would think I would know instantly if something wasn't quite right.
<p> As far as the video quality of The Fog (based on the HD DVD) the problems I saw were limited to the opening credits which looked unstable around the edges-like a poorly compressed sd dvd- and aliasing that was visible in a shot with bleachers, in a car grill, and on a shingled roof. While I agree that flaws like these keep the disc from being a stellar representation, it was far from unwatchable and still a HUGE improvment over the R1 DVD, which is suffused with compression related nasties. I don't regret my purchase at all and will likely never bother upgrading should a better version come along.<p> I pulled out the SE of EFNY last night and that's another poor looking MGM disc. Soft, smeary...very difficult to watch. I want badly to order the Bd, but neither of those reviews mentions if there is a pitch problem or not. Even if there isn't, it would be nice to see the concern at least addressed.

brogan2424 · 08-01-08, 09:12 AM

I can't wait for someone to confirm whether EFNY is region locked as well...I'm ready to pull the trigger if it isn't!!

Paul Arnette · 08-01-08, 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by brogan2424

I can't wait for someone to confirm whether EFNY is region locked as well...I'm ready to pull the trigger if it isn't!!

EFNY has been confirmed region free, see here:

http://www.dvdtimes.co.uk/content.php?contentid=67905

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Escape From New York - The Blu-ray is a single-layer disc coded for all regions (A, B and C). Features include:

* 1080P 2.35:1 Widescreen (AVC)
* English 5.1 DTS-HD Master Audio and 5.1 Dolby Digital
* Return to Escape from New York (23 mins)
* New and exclusive John Carpenter interview (31 mins)
* 3 x original trailers
* Snakes Crime (deleted original intro)
* Commentary with John Carpenter and Kurt Russell

Its Evil Dead II, Night of the Living Dead (1968), Terminator 2, and Total Recall that I'm unsure of and would love to know.

Eternalnow · 08-01-08, 10:42 AM

I want Escape from New York

sixfootse7en · 08-01-08, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Arnette

Its Evil Dead II, Night of the Living Dead (1968), Terminator 2, and Total Recall that I'm unsure of and would love to know.

Terminator 2 has been confirmed as region A/B by "Batman2" over on Blu-Ray.com. His picture:

toxic_avenger · 08-01-08, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Eternalnow

I want Escape from New York

You and me both. So what's the best place to order from. I usually get my imports from Amazon or Tony. Any other sites that offer import or ship to US?

Paul Arnette · 08-01-08, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sixfootse7en

Terminator 2 has been confirmed as region A/B by "Batman2" over on Blu-Ray.com.

Thanks! It sounds like it is the director's cut too. I have pre-ordered this and Total Recall along with EFNY. Has there been any definitive word on the region coding of Total Recall?

grodd · 08-01-08, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by toxic_avenger

You and me both. So what's the best place to order from. I usually get my imports from Amazon or Tony. Any other sites that offer import or ship to US?

I ordered Escape from NY from here http://www.dvd.co.uk/
Same place I ordered Transformers the Movie (1986) a while back.

The Fog HD DVD is an mild improvement over the R1 DVD, (although in some areas the red push makes the picture look worse than the DVD) but when compared to the HD broadcast version of the movie you can see how poor the overall quality and color truly is. I didn't care for the audio either.
I took some super crappy photos and posted them a while back here. The point should still get across.
http://forums.highdefdigest.com/showthread.php?t=10645

zoro · 08-01-08, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Arnette

Thanks! It sounds like it is the director's cut too. I have pre-ordered this and Total Recall along with EFNY. Has there been any definitive word on the region coding of Total Recall?

I cancelled my stargate, would wait for final word

homerx · 08-01-08, 01:38 PM

I may have to get EFNY one of my favorite movies. I wanted cliffhanger to but I hope the US gets it soon. I have the DVD, SB DVD and laserdisc so I'm a fan

Paul Arnette · 08-01-08, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by zoro

I cancelled my stargate, would wait for final word

The webmaster at DVD Active was good enough to point out where the region coding information was in their reviews, which I completely missed the right time around. Total Recall is confirmed Region A/B.

http://www.dvdactive.com/reviews/dvd/total-recall2.html

lfletcher · 08-01-08, 03:02 PM

Posted this over at Digest, but probably of use to some here as well.

All of next weeks Optimum disks turned up today. According to the back covers, some are region free and others are not, but I haven't checked them yet to confirm.

Total Recall - Region A/B - DTS HD MA
T2 - Region A/B - DTS HD MA
Cliffhanger - Region B - DTS HD MA
Stargate - Region B - DTS HD MA
The Fog - Region A/B - DTS HD MA
Escape from New York - Region A/B/C - DTS HD MA

I'll test them all when I have a chance to confirm if the covers are accurate.

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