AC/DC:No Bull - The Directors Cut

fuzzybk · 09-05-08, 09:54 PM

Anyone know what audio format this concert will be in? Uncompressed PCM? Dolby TrueHD? DTS MA?

MSmith83 · 09-05-08, 10:01 PM

The lossless 5.1 track is 96kHz/24-bit TrueHD, and the 2.0 track is 96kHz/24-bit PCM.

Rieper · 09-05-08, 10:31 PM

Oh really, TrueHD?

NO SALE!!

RaginCajun92 · 09-05-08, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rieper

Oh really, TrueHD?

NO SALE!!

What the heck is wrong with TrueHD?

Mel2 · 09-06-08, 02:11 AM

it actually has two lossless tracks. the 5.1 pcm track and the 5.1 truehd track. I seen it at work today. will pick it up tomorrow.

raoul_duke · 09-06-08, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Rieper

Oh really, TrueHD?

NO SALE!!

OH NO!!

fuzzybk · 09-06-08, 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Mel2

it actually has two lossless tracks. the 5.1 pcm track and the 5.1 truehd track.

Great news. Thanks.

hddvds · 09-08-08, 01:47 AM

TrueHD??? No thanks. No sale for me either

MSmith83 · 09-08-08, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by hddvds

TrueHD??? No thanks. No sale for me either

According to Mel, it also has a 5.1 PCM track. My info came from the Sony BMG site. While the site was never wrong before, I have more trust in Mel's sighting.

As for people's problem with TrueHD, that's another issue to address.

Mel2 · 09-08-08, 02:28 AM

I had it in my hands for a long time at work. trust me, it has both lossless tracks.

raoul_duke · 09-08-08, 05:54 AM

Bought it this morning, PCM and TrueHD provided.

joerod · 09-08-08, 06:03 AM

Awesome!

DCSholtis · 09-08-08, 01:02 PM

I have it on order from AC/DC.com Gotta wait till October to get it as unfortunately I ordered it with the new CD and they said in those cases they ship items together. UGH.

jcmccorm · 09-08-08, 01:23 PM

So what's the beef with TrueHD? Am I missing something?

Cary

RaginCajun92 · 09-08-08, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jcmccorm

So what's the beef with TrueHD? Am I missing something?

Cary

There's obviously something better than lossless out there.

Who the hell knows? I'd love to hear some details over why TrueHD is suddenly a bad thing.

hddvds · 09-08-08, 05:05 PM

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There's obviously something better than lossless out there. Who the hell knows? I'd love to hear some details over why TrueHD is suddenly a bad thing.

hahaha you are so funny

himey · 09-08-08, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hddvds

hahaha you are so funny

and you are so informative...

hddvds · 09-08-08, 09:30 PM

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and you are so informative...

You are welcome!

eddy_winds · 09-08-08, 09:37 PM

Hells Bells

Davinleeds · 09-08-08, 09:55 PM

So, how does this compare to Live at Donington?

jcarys · 09-08-08, 10:19 PM

Well, my copy has stereo PCM and 5.1 DTHD - both 96kHz/24-bit.

steven975 · 09-08-08, 10:45 PM

yea, I'd take a 5.1 24/96 track over a 2.0 24/96 track anyday.

Some people seem to think that the whole TrueHD thing can't be lossless because it's compressed. I think the tin foil hat is blocking their ears.

MSmith83 · 09-09-08, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Davinleeds

So, how does this compare to Live at Donington?

I would like to know the same thing. There are so many ways the audio could have been remixed, so the result ought to be interesting. I think the Donington release sounds great and about as good as I could have hoped for.

Mel2 · 09-09-08, 01:39 AM

the uncompressed pcm track is 2.0. so there is confusion on the back cover. i'm listening to the truehd track right now and it sounds very good.

CETA1 · 09-09-08, 02:25 AM

I'm listening to Family Jewels Disc One right now.

I guess as a 43 year old male technology will never change the music or discs I grew up with..

Dang, I wish they could make Bon come alive in HD.

There is no better tune than "Jail Break" and the video for this song.

I guess Family Jewels Disc One is too much even for the best of Engineers and the cameras of the day.

Dang I miss Bon.

Rick

MSmith83 · 09-09-08, 02:36 AM

Bon Scott had a smoothness to his voice that Brian Johnson couldn't dream of replicating. That being said, I think Brian's voice better suits the nature of AC/DC's more over-the-top shows.

jcmccorm · 09-09-08, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by CETA1

There is no better tune than "Jail Break" and the video for this song.

Rick

I love that one on that disk as well.

Cary

Ripper64 · 09-09-08, 12:20 PM

I picked this up today. Video quality wise it isn't that good at all. Lots of grain floating around. Looks a little soft too. Its not horrible or anything like that. I have this on regular DVD but can't remember the video quality on it. I imagine the Blu-ray version is better. Sound quality wise is good. Just don't go into it expecting to be blown away by video quality. I'll let you guys see what you think. Time to wait for Stiff Upper Lip.

Malcolm_B · 09-09-08, 12:38 PM

It's all about the sound for me. Besides, do you really wanna see Angus crystal clear?!

BTW, No Bull was on VH1 classics last night and I caught parts of it; if anything, this should be a good companion piece to the first Blu AC/DC release.

kdssrugby · 09-09-08, 08:02 PM

I'm a really big fan of the Live at Donnigton disc, and while fairly grainy, it provided an excellent picture. Unfortunately I cannot say the same about NO BULL. While the audio is terrific and the set list is far better than that found on the other disc, the video is very disappointing. The bitrate rarely went over 20 mb/s and hit 30 mb/s very rarely and hovering in the mid to low teens, as low as 8 at times. Here are some pics I got off my HTPC. The first 2 shots are from "Cover you in Oil", a bonus song encoded in VC-1.

Edit: I only skipped through a few songs before, but some of the latter ones like Highway to hell look a bit better than earlier tracks. Also, shots like #5 used SD cameras which were upconverted (I just noticed the little blurb on the back of the case) Also, the last 5 pics were to big to upload so they're Jpegs and couldn t provide the preview,sorry.

http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/...1m_e945e26.jpg

http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/...9m_817c193.jpg

http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/...5m_bbd4ca7.jpg

http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/...6m_1e07e97.jpg

http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/...2m_a207f20.jpg

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Mel2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 458	it actually has two lossless tracks. the 5.1 pcm track and the 5.1 truehd track. I seen it at work today. will pick it up tomorrow.

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Mel2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 458	I had it in my hands for a long time at work. trust me, it has both lossless tracks.

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MSmith83 AVS Special Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,317	The lossless 5.1 track is 96kHz/24-bit TrueHD, and the 2.0 track is 96kHz/24-bit PCM.

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Davinleeds Bitstreamer AVS GOLD CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 3,967	So, how does this compare to Live at Donington?

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jcarys Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 66	Well, my copy has stereo PCM and 5.1 DTHD - both 96kHz/24-bit.

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Mel2 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 458	the uncompressed pcm track is 2.0. so there is confusion on the back cover. i'm listening to the truehd track right now and it sounds very good.

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MSmith83 AVS Special Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 6,317	Bon Scott had a smoothness to his voice that Brian Johnson couldn't dream of replicating. That being said, I think Brian's voice better suits the nature of AC/DC's more over-the-top shows.

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Ripper64 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 418	I picked this up today. Video quality wise it isn't that good at all. Lots of grain floating around. Looks a little soft too. Its not horrible or anything like that. I have this on regular DVD but can't remember the video quality on it. I imagine the Blu-ray version is better. Sound quality wise is good. Just don't go into it expecting to be blown away by video quality. I'll let you guys see what you think. Time to wait for Stiff Upper Lip.

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Malcolm_B Forever Upgrading Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: CLASSIFIED Posts: 2,407	It's all about the sound for me. Besides, do you really wanna see Angus crystal clear?! BTW, No Bull was on VH1 classics last night and I caught parts of it; if anything, this should be a good companion piece to the first Blu AC/DC release. __________________ HD DVD...Blu Ray...I Like New STUFF!!! PSN: BoggyCreekBeast

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kdssrugby Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: The Great White North Posts: 499	AC/DC No Bull Review I'm a really big fan of the Live at Donnigton disc, and while fairly grainy, it provided an excellent picture. Unfortunately I cannot say the same about NO BULL. While the audio is terrific and the set list is far better than that found on the other disc, the video is very disappointing. The bitrate rarely went over 20 mb/s and hit 30 mb/s very rarely and hovering in the mid to low teens, as low as 8 at times. Here are some pics I got off my HTPC. The first 2 shots are from "Cover you in Oil", a bonus song encoded in VC-1. Edit: I only skipped through a few songs before, but some of the latter ones like Highway to hell look a bit better than earlier tracks. Also, shots like #5 used SD cameras which were upconverted (I just noticed the little blurb on the back of the case) Also, the last 5 pics were to big to upload so they're Jpegs and couldn t provide the preview,sorry. http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/...1m_e945e26.jpg http://img28.picoodle.com/img/img28/...9m_817c193.jpg http://img27.picoodle.com/img/img27/...5m_bbd4ca7.jpg http://img26.picoodle.com/img/img26/...6m_1e07e97.jpg http://img34.picoodle.com/img/img34/...2m_a207f20.jpg Last edited by kdssrugby; 09-25-08 at 06:42 PM..