Memorex MVBD-2510 Blu-ray Player Thread

[LastButNotLeast]

Originally Posted by Agentbolt

That's usually what speaker distance settings do. I've never seen them control volume before. They usually arrange the delay to make sure you're not hearing any surround action before it occurs on the screen.

Okay, so at 1,125.79 ft/s, my 10 foot speaker difference would be a delay of 0.0089 seconds. Don't think I'd hear that, so I'll leave further testing to others.


Come to think of it, my receiver does, indeed, change the volume. I used a sound meter to set it up eons ago. I would think the circuitry for a delay would be much more sophisticated (read: expensive).

[gkrykewy]

Okay - for the 12/24 update, I've tried various combinations of ISO9660, Mac & PC, burning the folder, burning the files, titling the disc "CDROM" - nothing. I would greatly appreciate it if someone could create an ISO of the latest update and post it online.

[arbeck77]

Could it possibly be your discs? I'm using Linux, and if someone was going to have a problem it would be me. I simply write the files to the disc with no folders, burn the disc, and it works perfect. I'm using Taiyo Yuden discs.

[dvdchance]

Reading about all these problems with folks not being able to complete the firmware updates makes me think the culprit is the brand of CD-R being used.

I remember back when I first got a MP3 player that read CD-R's. Was one of those Rio Volt players. It was very sensative on what brand CD-R's it would read. Frankly it seemed to do best with the cheap shiny silver ones.

I think we have gone full circle and again the problem is the actual CD-R being used.

Just for reference I have used FujiFilm CD-R and have had 100% success with the updates.

[dvdchance]

Originally Posted by arbeck77

Could it possibly be your discs? I'm using Linux, and if someone was going to have a problem it would be me. I simply write the files to the disc with no folders, burn the disc, and it works perfect. I'm using Taiyo Yuden discs.

We were thinking the same thing. And the FujiFilm discs I use are made by Taiyo Yuden also.

[gkrykewy]

My discs were/are genero CD-Rs that are probably 10 years old. They work find in my iBook and xbox 360, but I suppose I'll head over to Staples and see about getting some Fujifilm discs. Will report back.

[kdolson]

i've been using cheap verbatim CD-R's with no problem. i think i got them from sam's club.

[gkrykewy]

I dug up an old CD-RW, also with no dice. An ISO would still be much appreciated, just to rule that out.

[taz291819]

Originally Posted by jim_from_ill

I can only assume with the over whelming negative response about firmware, that Memorex has temporarily removed it. Being a programmer myself, this is a public disaster. Obviously, there are two major issues here: 1) lack of QA (quality assurance), and 2) lack of quality documentation on how to burn the firmware disk. Just spend about an hour looking at all the "quick fixes", and those who went way out of their way to use the most unusal steps to burn the firmware CD, in this forum (esp. the 2510 forum). The readers shouldn't be trying to figure out how to do it; Memorex should post in the simplest steps, HOW to apply the firmware (so a 10 year old could do it). I wasted at least 6 or 7 disks trying different software, and burning techniques. Those CD-R's are toast. I bought the 2511 model on Cyber Monday, for $149 from Wal-Mart. Overall, mine has worked okay. Yes, mine hesitated on Dark Knight, and I did like everyone did, by turning it off, then turning it back on. Oh, and the mention of a USB port - there is none on the 2511. This is truly a case of "you get what you paid for". I'm going to wait for the next firmware update (due the week of 1/5). If that turns out to be a winner, I'll keep the unit. Otherwise, back to Walmart to exchange it for a more expensive, reputable model.

Umm, I bought two 2511's from Wal-Mart, they do have a USB port, it's on the right side covered buy a rubber 'dust-cover'. The USB functions work great.

Also, the firmware for the 2510 is not the same as the 2511, since they were manufactured by two different companies. As of now, there hasn't been a firmware released for the 2511.

[gkrykewy]

Nevermind! I tried again using a newer version of Toast (v9), and it updated perfectly using a CD-RW and the most basic "Mac & PC" settings. So perhaps Toast 7 or later is the key for Mac users (I was using Toast 6 previously).

[Aino]

Originally Posted by gkrykewy

Nevermind! I tried again using a newer version of Toast (v9), and it updated perfectly using a CD-RW and the most basic "Mac & PC" settings. So perhaps Toast 7 or later is the key for Mac users (I was using Toast 6 previously).

good to hear your success, anyway here is the iso if someone still need it.

http://rapidshare.com/files/17828114..._UP_241208.ISO

[gkrykewy]

Originally Posted by Aino

good to hear your success, anyway here is the iso if someone still need it.

http://rapidshare.com/files/17828114..._UP_241208.ISO

On behalf of everyone else, thank you very much!

[elmopio]

Ok folks I bought this player from woot with no problems. I updated the firmware from 11-16-2008?(bd10cc-20081107-usa)successfully. That fixed my random audio switching from bitstream to PCM. Now the other day I purchased the x-files BD film for 50 at BBuy And I noticed I couldn't play them with out a update. Check the website this morning when I woke up and seen there was a update. Found it by added the file name. since I was getting the 404 error from the link. Downloaded it. Burned it with cdburnerXP like the old firmware with success. But this update doesn't actually update the firmware. I was wondering if anyone else had this problem? And if not. Can someone who successfully updated the firmware with 11.24.08. upload the firmware to rapidshare.

[elmopio]

Ok I guess it took me while to this post so i am loading the firmware now from the image. I will update as it goes.

Update:Ok this image file was a success with Firmware:SMP8634-1.0-R1.1-20 SubVersion:BD100C-20081220-USA. For some reason the one I download from Memorex site was the same on my player already from 16 of November. Wierd! Anyway Thanks AINO for creating the image. NOw my Horton and X-files play. Ok Lets see what HDCP is going to cause problems for us next month.

[yarrumc]

Originally Posted by elmopio

Ok folks I bought this player from woot with no problems. I updated the firmware from 11-16-2008?(bd10cc-20081107-usa)successfully. That fixed my random audio switching from bitstream to PCM. Now the other day I purchased the x-files BD film for 50 at BBuy And I noticed I couldn't play them with out a update. Check the website this morning when I woke up and seen there was a update. Found it by added the file name. since I was getting the 404 error from the link. Downloaded it. Burned it with cdburnerXP like the old firmware with success. But this update doesn't actually update the firmware. I was wondering if anyone else had this problem? And if not. Can someone who successfully updated the firmware with 11.24.08. upload the firmware to rapidshare.

I think you meant the 12-24-08 firmware?

[elmopio]

No the first firmware release was a success. Until the 24 came out last week.

[natchie]

Originally Posted by elmopio

No the first firmware release was a success. Until the 24 came out last week.

I think with variant versions of firmware in the month of December is making me very nervous...I recalled how the first November firmware was a disaster and so I suspect that the upcoming Jan 5 firmware is a fix for the Christmas firmware.

BTW, J&R in NYC is also selling this Memorex model this week for about the same as Walmart...

[DUCeditor]

Originally Posted by Agentbolt

That's usually what speaker distance settings do. I've never seen them control volume before. They usually arrange the delay to make sure you're not hearing any surround action before it occurs on the screen.

My earlier message was not meant to suggest that the purpose of the distance setting was to set volume. It is typically meant to set delay. But if one has it set at zero distance then - at least according to earlier published comments - the sound output is very low and muffled - which makes sense. Zero ft means zero speaker - or at least that the speakers each take up zero space. If so they may play loudly but only in a dimension without depth.

Hmmm... perhaps someone can try this theory out using the multi channel out from The Matrix.

-nod

[yarrumc]

Originally Posted by natchie

I think with variant versions of firmware in the month of December is making me very nervous...I recalled how the first November firmware was a disaster and so I suspect that the upcoming Jan 5 firmware is a fix for the Christmas firmware.

BTW, J&R in NYC is also selling this Memorex model this week for about the same as Walmart...

How many have had a problem updating with the 12-24 firmware? I have only seen a couple that have posted a problem, but it seems to be more than a firmware issue. I haven't had a problem and not aware that the 12-24 update is a 'bad' release.

[rickeysue]

I evidently had trouble with the 12/24 update, though I didn't know it at first. I had posted before that I couldn't get 'Burn After Reading' to play, however I noticed that others weren't having the same problem. I detected a bigger problem when I tried other blu-ray's and found that they suddenly wouldn't play anymore. I reset the machine today and reinstalled the 12/24 update. The problems were then solved. Evidently, it did not install properly the first time around. I was able to watch 'Burn' and '3:10 To Yuma' without any problem. I'm pleased again, at least for the moment.

[erkq]

HELP! From someone who has been through this. I popped in 12/25/08 update and it seemed to work... went through several messages on the front display before getting stuck at "APP". What now? Will I have a brick? Do I dare turn it off? Do I leave it (burning up hours on my RS1)?

[Fiend]

Originally Posted by erkq

HELP! From someone who has been through this. I popped in 12/25/08 update and it seemed to work... went through several messages on the front display before getting stuck at "APP". What now? Will I have a brick? Do I dare turn it off? Do I leave it (burning up hours on my RS1)?

How long did you wait on the APP portion. Mine took what seemed like forever (in reality, probably about 5 mins) to get through that step...

[erkq]

OK... so it finally got through the "APP" screen and it plays Heroes Season 2. But Firefly won't play. It says BD-J on the front panel, then goes to the counter, makes it to 00001 and then freezes with a circle of dots going 'round at the bottom of the screen. When I press the eject button it says "OPEN" on the front panel but that's all. No disk comes out. Oh... and the power button no longer works. I have to unplug it off. AAAaaarghhh!
Firefly is the title that tipped me to going Purple!!!

[rickeysue]

Originally Posted by erkq

OK... so it finally got through the "APP" screen and it plays Heroes Season 2. But Firefly won't play. It says BD-J on the front panel, then goes to the counter, makes it to 00001 and then freezes with a circle of dots going 'round at the bottom of the screen. When I press the eject button it says "OPEN" on the front panel but that's all. No disk comes out. Oh... and the power button no longer works. I have to unplug it off. AAAaaarghhh!
Firefly is the title that tipped me to going Purple!!!

You can hold the power button in like on a computer to shut it off when it locks up. When you turn it back on, it's back to normal. What I did was go into setup and reset before I reinstalled the latest update. All was fine and back to normal for me after that. Good luck.

[yarrumc]

Originally Posted by erkq

OK... so it finally got through the "APP" screen and it plays Heroes Season 2. But Firefly won't play. It says BD-J on the front panel, then goes to the counter, makes it to 00001 and then freezes with a circle of dots going 'round at the bottom of the screen. When I press the eject button it says "OPEN" on the front panel but that's all. No disk comes out. Oh... and the power button no longer works. I have to unplug it off. AAAaaarghhh!
Firefly is the title that tipped me to going Purple!!!

I think you have already, but you should report this to Memorex. I don't see why that movie shouldn't play.

Somehow I feel another one is about to bite the dust...

[DUCeditor]

Discs with updated security coding are a pain as can be learning to make properly formatted firmware discs, but the level of complaint about this strikes me as, well, juvenile.

Every blu ray disc I have seen comes with a piece of paper inside saying that if your player was made before the disc you may need to update the firmware. Every one. Do you think this is done for the sake of we owners of Memorex machines?

As to the delays and hassles... Memorex is a small distributor who is new in this field. I see them making a serious effort to get this right. Firmware updates are now coming regularly with enough advance planning to let owners know when to expect the next one.

As to burning the discs... we just need to learn to do it and to be methodical when we do. Then we need to be patient while the system loads it. Personally I set it to load and then leave the room for a half hour and do something else. I have thus far loaded two updates including the 12/24 one with no trouble at all. And what is more the disc issues that I mentioned in communication to Memorex have been fixed.

Maybe the difference is that I am no longer a child?

-don

[The Dark Falcon]

Originally Posted by rirawh

I have been keeping up with this thread for the past two weeks or so in anticipation of receiving this player for Christmas. I have not run the 12/24 update yet, but did do the 12/16. (I had already burned it before 12/24 and didn't know there was a new update until today.) I have had trouble with TDK, but no others so far. My question is actually about the sound. If I use the player to decode the HD sound signal and run directly to my amp, with no volume control, will there be a way to control the sound level? I am actually running through a digital processor, but have to "bypass" the processor to allow the player's signal to flow through. I can run the DD signal through the optical output and can control the volume for that one, but can't figure out the TrueHD. Does anyone have any ideas?

I tried this and it did not work. The player has no built in volume control. It would require an amp with volume control if you choose to use the analog outs.

Does your system not decode DTS/DD 5.1+?

[The Dark Falcon]

Originally Posted by rydberg

Hello:
I cannot complain about my player.
Regarding "Burn after Reading": I have installed both firmware updates (by simply copying to a cd-r the unzipped files using xp) with no issues and the movie in question played properly. Quick loading too.
I bought my player, via amazon marketplace, from buy.com.
It may be anectodal, but I seem to see a lot of players from WOOT.com with problems. Mine has worked with every title i tried (not many: hancock, TDK, Spiderman 3 and now Burn after reading).
I am just lucky?
marco

No I think you are fine. Many of us that got the Woot deal were very happy with our purchase. The lengthy delay of the 12/24 firmware release caused a short dismay, but that is cared for now. I think the Memorex is a great player.

[The Dark Falcon]

Originally Posted by rickeysue

How bizarre. I checked to make sure the latest update took on my machine, which it did. When I try to play the movie, it goes for a minute and the machine freezes to the point that I have to hold in the power button to turn it off and reset it. I got mine from Woot. Can I damage the player by flashing it again with the firmware update of the 24th?

Memorex says that you cannot damage your player by repeatedly flashing it. However, I am not certain that it would take the same firmware that the machine is currently running.

[The Dark Falcon]

Originally Posted by LastButNotLeast

No, I hadn't. But, since you asked,...

Set the left front at 33, right front at 1, left the others at 0.
Absolutely NO difference.
I have a demo that plays one speaker at a time, so it's not like it would have been hard to tell.
This is using the 5.1 analog outs, of course, dynamic compression off, everything else wherever it defaults.
Anyone else?

The distance settings are for timing of the DD or DTS decode. They make the room sound larger and add realism to the audio track. If you choose to set them incorrectly, the sound will not be as enveloping.