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Old 02-07-09, 06:45 PM   #1   |  Link


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Angry List of Blu-ray movies authored in 1080i50

I'll try to keep this list current. If you know of any Blu-ray movies authored in 1080i50 (25 FPS), please post with name of the title, region, country, studio, and UPC (if known). Please limit your reporting to movies shot on films only. Movies, documentaries, concerts, etc shot on video at 1080i50 or 1080p25 are correctly encoded on Blu-ray at 1080i50 and do not belong on this list.

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It seems that any Blu-ray movie released by EIV or Noble/SME/Future Films is encoded at 25 FPS - per Kannisto, it appears they have changed their ways recently. If the back of the case list the spec as 1080p 24 FPS, then it is correctly encoded.

* Movies marked with *next to the title were originally shot at 25FPS and thus correctly encoded at 1080i50 on Blu-ray.

LIST OF 1080i50 ENCODED BLU-RAY MOVIES

TitleRegionCountryBlu-ray StudioUPC
All the Boys Love Mandy LaneSweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future7350019706848 
An American CrimeAllSweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
Angel SwedenSF 
Antichrist*BUKArtificial Eye5021866666402
Apocalypto Sweden/Denmark/Norway/FinlandScanbox 
Bangkok DangerousBUKEIV 
Bloody Tie (Sasaenggyeoldan)AllFranceSony 
La BohèmeAllUKAxiom Films5060126870579
Brick UKOptimum 
Bridge to TerabithiaBSweden/Denmark/Norway/FinlandScanbox 
Brokeback MountainBUKEIV5017239120046
ChaserAllFranceM6 Vidéo3475001017925
City RatsAllUKRevolver5060018490557
The CrowBUKEIV5017239120107
Dead Man's Shoes UKOptimum 
Death at a Funeral Sweden/Denmark/Norway/FinlandScanbox 
Death SentenceBUKEIV 
East is EastBUK4dvd 
Eden Log GermanySunfilm 
Les Enfants Des DuneAllFranceSony/Elephant3348469866995
EichmannAllSweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
Flammen & CitronenBDenmark/NorwayWarner 
Flashback of a Fool GermanyHMH 
Frontière(s) FranceFox Pathe 
Hard CandyAllAustraliaIcon9339065002218
Frontière(s)AllSweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
Gangster No. 1 UK4DVD 
Hard CandyAllAustraliaIcon9339065002218
Hell Ride Sweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
I Could Never be Your Woman (Hauptsache verliebt) GermanyAscot Elite 
In BrugesBAustraliaIcon9339065001457
The InterpreterAllItalyEagle Pictures 
IskariotAllSwedenScanbox 
JoulutarinaBFinlandSnapper Films/Sandrew Metronome6438137038513
The Librarian, Quest for the SpearBAustralia/New ZealandBeyond Home Entertainment 
LifeAllUKBBC/2Entertain5051561000553
The Life Before Her EyesAllSweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
À l'intérieur (Inside)AllSweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
Lady VengenceAllSweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
Mad MoneyAllSweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
Max Manus: Man of WarAllUKRevolver 
Meet Bill GermanyMIB 
Memoirs of a Geisha (Memorie di una Geisha)AllItalyEagle Pictures 
The Mist Sweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
Der Mongole (Mongol) GermanyWarner 
Ne le dis à personneAllSweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
Once upon a time in China and AmericaBGermanyHMH 
Once Were WarriorsAllAustraliaIcon9339065001990
The PianoAllAustraliaIcon9339065002317
Pulp FictionAllAustraliaRoadshow9398710967685
The Promise (Wu ji)AllUKMomentum5060116724431
Rambo Sweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
[Rec] FranceWild Side 
[Rec]AllSweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
[Rec] SpainFilmax 
Return of the Living Dead 4 & 5 GermanyHMH4260157710658
Righteous KillAllSweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future7350019707777
Rise of the FootsoldierAllSweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
Running ScaredAllNetherlandDutch Filmworks 
Sexy Beast UK4dvd 
St Trinian'sBUKEIV5017239150821
Superhero Movie Sweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
SurveillanceAllSweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
TimelineBItalyEagle8031179924271
Tom yum goong (The Protector)AllSweden/Norway/FinlandNoble/SME/Future 
W GermanyAscot Elite HE 
Wallace & Grommit: A Matter of Loaf and Death UK2 Entertain Video 
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I'll try to maintain a list of US Blu-ray players that are confirmed to be compatible or NOT compatible with 1080i50 Blu-rays. If you know of any players that fall into these categories, please post your findings. Please remember to make sure that your TV or display is also 1080i50 compatible before deciding that your player is incompatible.

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US Blu-ray players that can play 1080i50 contents (provided that the TV/display is also 1080i50 compatible)

LG BH-200
Oppo BDP-80
Oppo BDP-83
Pioneer BD-51 in Source Direct mode
Samsung BDP-1400
Samsung BDP-1500
Denon 1610

US Blu-ray players that CANNOT play 1080i50 contents (provided that the TV/display is also 1080i50 compatible)

Panasonic BD55
Sony BDP-S350
Sony PS3
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I'll try to keep this list current. If you know of any Blu-ray movies authored in 1080i50 (25 FPS), please post with name of the title, region, country, studio, and UPC (if known).

Thanks,

It seems that any Blu-ray movie released by EIV or Noble/SME/Future Films is encoded at 25 FPS
Not all of them most are straight ports of the new line discs
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Old 02-07-09, 07:31 PM   #7   |  Link
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add the UK version of BrokeBack Mountain: 1080i50

Studio: Focus features, Region B (uk) : UPC: 5017239 120046

MPEG2 encode. Still it looks quite good transfer wise

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Old 02-07-09, 09:03 PM   #8   |  Link
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Some more Swedish releases from Noble:

À l'intérieur (Inside)
An American Crime
Eichmann
Frontière(s)
The Life Before Her Eyes
Mad Money
Ne le dis à personne (Tell No One)
[Rec]
Rise of the Footsoldier

I don't know how many of these were also released by Star Media/Futurefilm. All are marked as region free (kind of ridiculous since Region A machines will probably not play them anyway.)

There are some releases tagged 1080i50 in the specs thread, but note that several are concerts and things (like Extras: The Special) that were likely shot that way. Perhaps these could go on a different list.

And Brokeback is another release by EiV, Focus Features is the film studio.

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Thank you, keep them coming.
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Apocalypto- Scanbox - Sweden, Dennmark, Finland, Norway.

1080/50i
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25p is not supported by BD spec. If you have 25p master you have to encode it as 50i.

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Cant you just encode it as 25P with interlace flags as you can with DVD.

Usually its a difference between encoding and authoring in this regard.
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I believe there are many concert discs like this which basically prevent Americans from importing them. This Oasis concert and documentary from the U.K. can be added to the list:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Oasis-Lord-D...4127375&sr=8-2
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I believe there are many concert discs like this which basically prevent Americans from importing them. This Oasis concert and documentary from the U.K. can be added to the list:

http://http://www.amazon.co.uk/Oasis...N%3DB001CJJWTI
I know many video based programs from Europe are 1080i50, so I am trying to limit this list to films.
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I know many video based programs from Europe are 1080i50, so I am trying to limit this list to films.
The documentary was shot on film.
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Hang on a minute. Are you telling me that INSIDE is out on Blu-Ray!?!

Where can I get it, please?
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Hang on a minute. Are you telling me that INSIDE is out on Blu-Ray!?!

Where can I get it, please?
Inside Blu-ray
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Aargh!! No English subs.
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German version of W.

VIDEO:
MPEG-4 AVC Video 33000 kbps 1080i / 25 fps / 16:9 / High Profile 4.1
AUDIO:
DTS-HD Master Audio English 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1665 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
DTS-HD Master Audio German 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1951 kbps / 16-bit (DTS Core: 5.1 / 48 kHz / 1509 kbps / 16-bit)
SUBTITLES:
German 60,772 kbps
German 0,257 kbps
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Cant you just encode it as 25P with interlace flags as you can with DVD.

Usually its a difference between encoding and authoring in this regard.
Remember that with 25fps films, both fields contain the same data. So, for film content, there is no difference between 25p and 50i. Provided the player is smart enough to recognise both fields are the same and doesn't try to deinterlace, that is!

Regardless, it's disappointing to hear of these titles.
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Two more from Noble (all region):

Tom yum goong (The Protector)
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German Version of Mongol (Der Mongole) is encoded at 1080i 50Hz
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Oh yeah forgot about the South Korean release of Tae Guk Gi:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...&postcount=497
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...87&postcount=7
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From Scanbox (Sweden/Denmark/Norway/Finland):

Bridge to Terabithia
Death at a Funeral

From SF (Sweden):

Angel

Also I made mistake, and Ne le dis à personne (Tell No One) is actually 24p so better remove that. In fact it seems like Noble may be on the right track, as one of their latest releases, Red Baron, is also marked as 24p.
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That's 1080i60 which is a mistake in its own right, but this thread is about 1080i50 ("PAL"). Don't know if xradman wants to keep track of those as well.
Thank you.

That's right, I am only interested in tracking 1080i50 for now. 1080i60 can theoretically be reconstructed back into 1080p24 with proper deinterlacing whereas 1080i50 really messes things up (audio pitch being the biggest gripe of mine).
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Im not sure, but i think there is a big chance that Angel was shoot 25fps, and thats the reason why they didnt encode it as 1080/24P. Other movies from SF have been 24P.

But of course it doesnt help, if you cant play it.
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Im not sure, but i think there is a big chance that Angel was shoot 25fps, and thats the reason why they didnt encode it as 1080/24P. Other movies from SF have been 24P.
Possible, but it was produced for theatrical release, wasn't it? Why would they shoot 25fps?

Also I guess it's a question of what is the 'correct' speed. I think 28 Days Later was mostly shot in PAL and slowed down to 24fps, so if that had been released as 1080i50 would it have gone on the list?

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I'm not sure, but Girls Aloud: Live from the O2 might be. I know it is 1080i, it was released in the UK, and it is a concert and concerts are supposedly notorious for this.

Could warrant some investigating.
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