Official Samsung BD-P1600 Owners/master thread

Steve Carr · 02-28-09, 06:59 PM

WOW LOL that is SAD...

SatinKzo · 02-28-09, 07:19 PM

Well, no one can say samsung isn't consistent.

That does suck though snaphook, especially with an older title.

ack_bk · 02-28-09, 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by snaphook

updated: this unit will not play 310 to yuma. simply says this disc cannot be played.

called support, they want to send me a firmware cd or download from site but that's funny like a previous poster said there is no firmware for the 1600 yet.

I'm on hold.........

Are you sure the disc just wasn't bad?

mistrz23 · 02-28-09, 09:48 PM

Well my first bd-p1600 was faulty, but I just got the new one and it works perfectly

The interface is nice, well designed, and it loads the discs fast.It's lighter and the box is finally smaller. It retails for $299 but I'm pretty sure that after it will be officially released in about few weeks we should be able to find it for $199-$249 on amazon. BTW, I went to best buy yesterday and today again to exchange the player and I got the last one! they sold over 35 units within 20 hours! According to one of the reps. they are phasing out bd-p1500 right now and we should we able to see bd-p1600 on their website soon, hopefully with some price brake. Looks like best buy pulled the string earlier, because there is no word of this player on samsung website or anywhere else. It's an excellent entry level player, and hopefully with a lower price tag of $199 it might be a hit.

SatinKzo · 02-28-09, 09:54 PM

how was it faulty?

mistrz23 · 03-01-09, 11:03 AM

It didn't read BD discs. It only read 1 out 6 discs that I had. The new one I got works flawlessly.
Any ideas why is say "you don't have enough memory to use BD-Live" even when I connect flash drive?? Is flash drive need to be completely free?

Barney_DaPurple1 · 03-01-09, 12:34 PM

I'm guessing here, but I think the 1600 may do a check first to see if it's Profile 2.0 compliant. Internal + external persistent memory should be >= 1GB?

Then the actual content maybe downloaded initally is ~4 to 5 MB and any additional trailers.

Recommendation maybe is to get a 1 to 4 GB flash drive with bout 500 MB of free space... incase of a multitude trailer downloads of GGW vids

... just as a suggestion

?

jason_f · 03-01-09, 01:44 PM

Question: Will the BD-P1600 output 1080p/24? Looking at the BD-P1500 manual online, I don't see any option for 24hz output.

Barney_DaPurple1 · 03-01-09, 05:37 PM

top of page 38.

It's like the 1400. Option to turn On/Off "Movie Frame (24 Fs)".

I am unable to download the 1600 manual. It is not available at this time. I would suspect it is the same option...

snaphook · 03-01-09, 05:50 PM

"Are you sure the disc just wasn't bad?" Yep. It worked flawlessly on the sony 350 I swapped it for. I had no way to find out if the disc was at fault but I was pretty suspicious it was the player esp. with sammy's record.

I still want the 2500/50 though wish BB would have had one in stock, so this one may be going back during the 30day return period.

Stephen Hopkins · 03-02-09, 03:28 PM

Until the price ticks down $50-$100, I still see the P2500 for $311 from Amazon, or $180 refurbished from E Outlet Canada (when they're in stock) as a much better deal, especially for folks with large front projection screens. I have a modest 720p projector and 100" screen at 15'... there are several DVDs in my collection that are nearly unwatchable with mediocre scaling (Toshiba A2, Philips DVP5982) but are passable with HQV scaling (UP5000, P2550).

Tes7769 · 03-03-09, 01:47 PM

I just got back from my local Best Buy a few hours ago, and sure enough they had 8 Sammy BD-P 1600's on the shelf.It's even smaller than the Sony BD350 and the front flips down hiding the disc drawer behind it(as someone above also stated).It has Netflix and Pandora built in also.It's a might expensive at $299, though my buddy picked one up anyway.So far we've tried 3 BRD discs(King Kong,How the West was Won, and From Russia With Love) and found the picture quality to be excellent(imo exactly the same as the BDP-1500).Bluray disc loading is on average a tad slower than the 1500 but it's with DVD loading that the loading is much faster.The DVD uppscaling isn't in the league of BDP2500/2550 quality but i find the color representation to be better than the BDP1500's with the 1600 being slightly better in the DVD upscaling dept.(we tested The Wizard of Oz,Transformers, and Sleeping Beauty dvds in the 1600).

For someone that doesn't yet have a Bluray player or is upgrading from a 2nd gen Bluray player, i'd easily reccommend picking up the BDP1600,but if you already own a Samsung BDP1500,Sony BD350,Panasonic BD35 players, or one of the higher end units(BDP2500/2550,BD55,BD550),then there really isn't any need to buy into a newer unit as it would be a sideways purchase(unless you absolutely have to have Netflix/Pandora streaming and don't own a BDP2500/2550/LG BD300/Xbox360)and at $299 atm is a bit steep for a player that'll likely be $190 on Amazon in a month or so.Also, if you can wait a month the BDP3600 will have 7.1 built in, as well a a gig of built in memory(the 1600 has no built in memory for BDLive support)and will come with the wireless USB dongle(which the 1600 DOES NOT INCLUDE).Better yet, if you absolutely have to have a new Bluray player today and want an excellent player, don't spend $299 on the 1600 when you can pick up a BDP-2500/2550 for a few bucks more before they disappear.IMO there is no better player for Bluray playing/DVD upscaling/feature sets around for that ammount of money.

hoyty · 03-03-09, 07:58 PM

Ok I can buy a 2 GB SD card for $4 retail, which means it probably costs Samsung something like $.50 for it since they already manufacture it. Why didn't they just include 1 GB on the motherboard? To save maybe $.25? Wow. I just can't believe some stupid choices with this player.

GizmoDVD · 03-03-09, 08:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hoyty

Ok I can buy a 2 GB SD card for $4 retail, which means it probably costs Samsung something like $.50 for it since they already manufacture it. Why didn't they just include 1 GB on the motherboard? To save maybe $.25? Wow. I just can't believe some stupid choices with this player.

Then they couldn't sell you the Samsung 2600 at a $50 premium...

YukonJack · 03-03-09, 10:18 PM

I was just wondering about the BD-1600. My BD-1500 is identified as a BD-1600 by my Sharp Aquos LCD, which I thought was strange. I dont have the most recent firmware update (heard some strange stuff about it). Has anyone seen anything similar?

Barney_DaPurple1 · 03-03-09, 10:50 PM

If yaw are interested, the online manual is available for download.

http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.co...0,1600-XAA.pdf

SKoprowski · 03-04-09, 01:42 PM

Was at my local BB today and they had both the 1600 and 3600- The 3600 has 7.1 analog out and wireless (comes with the antenna). They want $399.99 for the 3600.

thejez · 03-04-09, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKoprowski

Was at my local BB today and they had both the 1600 and 3600- The 3600 has 7.1 analog out and wireless (comes with the antenna). They want $399.99 for the 3600.

that sucker better have HQV or else it's doomed @ 399.

SKoprowski · 03-04-09, 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thejez

that sucker better have HQV or else it's doomed @ 399.

Nope- didn't say it on the box. I looked specifically for that. Funny thing is the 2550 is selling for $349.99 right beside it. $50.00 for wireless but no HQV LOL

thejez · 03-04-09, 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKoprowski

Nope- didn't say it on the box. I looked specifically for that. Funny thing is the 2550 is selling for $349.99 right beside it. $50.00 for wireless but no HQV LOL

there really is no other difference between the 2 right??? Here is all your getting:

* wifi
* faster load times

?? am i missing anything? I keep asking myself, surely they've done something else to distinguish this player from last years?

bmonlycg · 03-04-09, 04:06 PM

Just picked up the bd-p1600 to replace my panny 30. Compared to the panny its great. Picture quality is alot better imo. The loading times is night and day. Not sure if i am going to keep it though. I really wanted the new panny 60 so hopefully panasonic starts to put some of there things on the shelves!

GizmoDVD · 03-04-09, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thejez

that sucker better have HQV or else it's doomed @ 399.

No HQV for the 3600? Odd.

thejez · 03-05-09, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SKoprowski

Nope- didn't say it on the box. I looked specifically for that. Funny thing is the 2550 is selling for $349.99 right beside it. $50.00 for wireless but no HQV LOL

does the 2550 mention HQV on the box?

SKoprowski · 03-05-09, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thejez

does the 2550 mention HQV on the box?

Yes it did- I checked to compare the two.

Tes7769 · 03-06-09, 05:32 PM

SKoprowski is correct. I just checked out the BD-P3600 at my local BB and didn't see any mention of HQV on the box anywhere.I'm looking to pick one up to replace my PS3 as the bedroom BR player, but just may pick up another 2500 or 2550 instead.I don't need the wireless(have a wireless router a few feet away and can simply use a 3 foot cable)and the slightly faster load times are a big deal to imo.The BB salesman is going to hook both the 3600 and 2550 up to big screen lcd for me and let me play back a few of my blurays and regular dvds if i go back tomorrow morning.

If i DO go, i'll stop back here and let you all know what my observations were.

Stephen Hopkins · 03-06-09, 06:42 PM

If there's no HQV, step ups of the 3600 over the 1600 the included wireless and 7.1 analog?

reallynotnick · 03-06-09, 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stephen Hopkins

If there's no HQV, step ups of the 3600 over the 1600 the included wireless and 7.1 analog?

Also built in 1GB.

Stephen Hopkins · 03-06-09, 07:30 PM

That's not adding up to a convincing reason to spend $100 more in my book... I'm not seeing much of anything, available or anounced, offering a more compelling package than the 2500/2550... not on image quality, useful features, or bang/buck.

mphs68 · 03-06-09, 07:59 PM

I just got one today at Bestbuy. What do you have to get to use BD Live? What is pandora?

thejez · 03-06-09, 08:18 PM

I just went my local BB and looked at the 3600 and the 2550... the 3600 box said AVCHD only and made no mention of HQV..... I bought the 2550 because it was a no brainer... $50 less and a better upscaler and buttons on the front instead of the top (annoying). The BB guy said he thought the 3600 had a farajouda upscaler in it... i think he was making a wild guess.

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snaphook Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 30	"Are you sure the disc just wasn't bad?" Yep. It worked flawlessly on the sony 350 I swapped it for. I had no way to find out if the disc was at fault but I was pretty suspicious it was the player esp. with sammy's record. I still want the 2500/50 though wish BB would have had one in stock, so this one may be going back during the 30day return period.

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SatinKzo Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 350 Classified Rating: 100% (2)	Well, no one can say samsung isn't consistent. That does suck though snaphook, especially with an older title.

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mistrz23 New Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 11	Well my first bd-p1600 was faulty, but I just got the new one and it works perfectly The interface is nice, well designed, and it loads the discs fast.It's lighter and the box is finally smaller. It retails for $299 but I'm pretty sure that after it will be officially released in about few weeks we should be able to find it for $199-$249 on amazon. BTW, I went to best buy yesterday and today again to exchange the player and I got the last one! they sold over 35 units within 20 hours! According to one of the reps. they are phasing out bd-p1500 right now and we should we able to see bd-p1600 on their website soon, hopefully with some price brake. Looks like best buy pulled the string earlier, because there is no word of this player on samsung website or anywhere else. It's an excellent entry level player, and hopefully with a lower price tag of $199 it might be a hit.

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mistrz23 New Member Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 11	It didn't read BD discs. It only read 1 out 6 discs that I had. The new one I got works flawlessly. Any ideas why is say "you don't have enough memory to use BD-Live" even when I connect flash drive?? Is flash drive need to be completely free?

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jason_f Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 80	Question: Will the BD-P1600 output 1080p/24? Looking at the BD-P1500 manual online, I don't see any option for 24hz output.

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Stephen Hopkins AVS Special Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 3,034 Classified Rating: 100% (1)	Until the price ticks down $50-$100, I still see the P2500 for $311 from Amazon, or $180 refurbished from E Outlet Canada (when they're in stock) as a much better deal, especially for folks with large front projection screens. I have a modest 720p projector and 100" screen at 15'... there are several DVDs in my collection that are nearly unwatchable with mediocre scaling (Toshiba A2, Philips DVP5982) but are passable with HQV scaling (UP5000, P2550). __________________ REVIEW: AV123 ELT 5.1 package + MFW-15 Subwoofer My ELECTRONIC HOUSE reviews, daily deals, and articles.

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Tes7769 Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 756	I just got back from my local Best Buy a few hours ago, and sure enough they had 8 Sammy BD-P 1600's on the shelf.It's even smaller than the Sony BD350 and the front flips down hiding the disc drawer behind it(as someone above also stated).It has Netflix and Pandora built in also.It's a might expensive at $299, though my buddy picked one up anyway.So far we've tried 3 BRD discs(King Kong,How the West was Won, and From Russia With Love) and found the picture quality to be excellent(imo exactly the same as the BDP-1500).Bluray disc loading is on average a tad slower than the 1500 but it's with DVD loading that the loading is much faster.The DVD uppscaling isn't in the league of BDP2500/2550 quality but i find the color representation to be better than the BDP1500's with the 1600 being slightly better in the DVD upscaling dept.(we tested The Wizard of Oz,Transformers, and Sleeping Beauty dvds in the 1600). For someone that doesn't yet have a Bluray player or is upgrading from a 2nd gen Bluray player, i'd easily reccommend picking up the BDP1600,but if you already own a Samsung BDP1500,Sony BD350,Panasonic BD35 players, or one of the higher end units(BDP2500/2550,BD55,BD550),then there really isn't any need to buy into a newer unit as it would be a sideways purchase(unless you absolutely have to have Netflix/Pandora streaming and don't own a BDP2500/2550/LG BD300/Xbox360)and at $299 atm is a bit steep for a player that'll likely be $190 on Amazon in a month or so.Also, if you can wait a month the BDP3600 will have 7.1 built in, as well a a gig of built in memory(the 1600 has no built in memory for BDLive support)and will come with the wireless USB dongle(which the 1600 DOES NOT INCLUDE).Better yet, if you absolutely have to have a new Bluray player today and want an excellent player, don't spend $299 on the 1600 when you can pick up a BDP-2500/2550 for a few bucks more before they disappear.IMO there is no better player for Bluray playing/DVD upscaling/feature sets around for that ammount of money. Last edited by Tes7769; 03-03-09 at 01:57 PM..

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YukonJack Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Posts: 72	I was just wondering about the BD-1600. My BD-1500 is identified as a BD-1600 by my Sharp Aquos LCD, which I thought was strange. I dont have the most recent firmware update (heard some strange stuff about it). Has anyone seen anything similar?

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Barney_DaPurple1 OT Discussion Notsy Join Date: Dec 2007 Posts: 3,053	If yaw are interested, the online manual is available for download. http://org.downloadcenter.samsung.co...0,1600-XAA.pdf __________________ - Samsung BD-P1400 Questions? The 1400 Technical Boomoo Reviews 7.1 Boomoos Official Boomoo Reviewer High Def Junkies - Be INTOLERANT! Some things are just too stupid to put up with.

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SKoprowski AVS Special Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Canton, OH Posts: 1,392	Was at my local BB today and they had both the 1600 and 3600- The 3600 has 7.1 analog out and wireless (comes with the antenna). They want $399.99 for the 3600. __________________ NE Ohio HT Nutt

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bmonlycg Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Posts: 168	1600 Just picked up the bd-p1600 to replace my panny 30. Compared to the panny its great. Picture quality is alot better imo. The loading times is night and day. Not sure if i am going to keep it though. I really wanted the new panny 60 so hopefully panasonic starts to put some of there things on the shelves!

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Tes7769 Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Posts: 756	SKoprowski is correct. I just checked out the BD-P3600 at my local BB and didn't see any mention of HQV on the box anywhere.I'm looking to pick one up to replace my PS3 as the bedroom BR player, but just may pick up another 2500 or 2550 instead.I don't need the wireless(have a wireless router a few feet away and can simply use a 3 foot cable)and the slightly faster load times are a big deal to imo.The BB salesman is going to hook both the 3600 and 2550 up to big screen lcd for me and let me play back a few of my blurays and regular dvds if i go back tomorrow morning. If i DO go, i'll stop back here and let you all know what my observations were.

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Stephen Hopkins AVS Special Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 3,034 Classified Rating: 100% (1)	If there's no HQV, step ups of the 3600 over the 1600 the included wireless and 7.1 analog? __________________ REVIEW: AV123 ELT 5.1 package + MFW-15 Subwoofer My ELECTRONIC HOUSE reviews, daily deals, and articles.

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Stephen Hopkins AVS Special Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 3,034 Classified Rating: 100% (1)	That's not adding up to a convincing reason to spend $100 more in my book... I'm not seeing much of anything, available or anounced, offering a more compelling package than the 2500/2550... not on image quality, useful features, or bang/buck. __________________ REVIEW: AV123 ELT 5.1 package + MFW-15 Subwoofer My ELECTRONIC HOUSE reviews, daily deals, and articles.

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mphs68 Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Memphis Tn Posts: 111	I just got one today at Bestbuy. What do you have to get to use BD Live? What is pandora? Last edited by mphs68; 03-06-09 at 08:14 PM..

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thejez Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 109	I just went my local BB and looked at the 3600 and the 2550... the 3600 box said AVCHD only and made no mention of HQV..... I bought the 2550 because it was a no brainer... $50 less and a better upscaler and buttons on the front instead of the top (annoying). The BB guy said he thought the 3600 had a farajouda upscaler in it... i think he was making a wild guess.