Samsung UN55B7100 VS Panasonic TH-50PZ800U VS Panasonic TC-P50G10 (Fully Calibrated)

Cleveland Plasma · 03-07-09, 11:46 PM

Our guy just left and he said if the screens were the same size and same cost he would walk out with the Samsung.

-The Samsung had better contrast.
-The Samsung had higher light output
-Subjectively sharper image although the test pattern showed about the same.
-Punchier picture on the Samsung
-Better blacks on the Samsung

( At first look these differences in contrast can only be found in the movie mode on the Samsung. On other modes on the Samsung, these differences could not be found)

Panasonic was calibrated in THX mode.
Samsung was calibrated in movie mode.

Cleveland Plasma · 03-07-09, 11:48 PM

(Samsung UN55B7100 on top, TH-50PZ800U on bottom)

Screens on dead inputs:

omeletpants · 03-07-09, 11:51 PM

Hmmm...I would like to see a comparison against a top of the line plasma like an Elite

Cleveland Plasma · 03-07-09, 11:55 PM

(Panasonic TH-50PZ800U on top, Samsung UN55B7100 on bottom)

Panasonic Picture:

Samsung Picture: (Darker Blacks, more shadow details, more contrast in general)

Cleveland Plasma · 03-07-09, 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omeletpants

Hmmm...I would like to see a comparison against a top of the line plasma like an Elite

He actually stated that "The black were almost Elite blacks. He stated they were as good as last years Elites blacks for sure"

omeletpants · 03-08-09, 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma

He actually stated that "The black were almost Elite blacks. He stated they were as good as last years Elites blacks for sure"

Chris, if the new Samsung is this good, why would they even spend the time introducing a 950 local dimming LED replacement in the future?

Cleveland Plasma · 03-08-09, 12:03 AM

(Panasonic TH-50PZ800U on top, Samsung UN55B7100 on bottom)

Pansonic :

Samsung:

d34dl1n3r · 03-08-09, 12:04 AM

I have to disagree with the "more shadow detail" on the Sammy, at least according to the pics.

Cleveland Plasma · 03-08-09, 12:06 AM

I would like to make a notation at this time, we found out when I output component and HDMI at the same time out of the Panasonic 35K that the component will only be 480i. Therefor all shots must be separate compared to what I did in the owners thread of the UN55B7100 (Sorry I did not catch this sooner guys

).

Quote:

Originally Posted by d34dl1n3r

I have to disagree with the "more shadow detail" on the Sammy, at least according to the pics.

Well it is what it is as far as the pictures. Calibrater will fill everyone in soon. As for right now, stop out any time. The Samsung will be here, the fully calibrated TH-50PZ800U is up for sale

Lindseybp · 03-08-09, 12:12 AM

Thanks for the info!

Cleveland Plasma · 03-08-09, 12:14 AM

(Panasonic TH-50PZ800U on top, Samsung UN55B7100 on bottom)

Panasonic:

Samsung:

Cleveland Plasma · 03-08-09, 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by omeletpants

Chris, if the new Samsung is this good, why would they even spend the time introducing a 950 local dimming LED replacement in the future?

Not sure all I can say is what will be reconfirmed in the review to come......

LOL, we have the G10's, could not get one in time. !!!! Darn it.

combatsambo · 03-08-09, 12:31 AM

well, i guess no pz800u for me.

how bout some scene showing vehicles/cars?

you think the Luxia can compare to the 950?

Cleveland Plasma · 03-08-09, 12:40 AM

(Panasonic TH-50PZ800U on top, Samsung UN55B7100 on bottom)

Panasonic:

Samsung:

sharkcohen · 03-08-09, 12:43 AM

Arg, must...resist...upgrade...be happy...with...750....

kizzlickenzzz · 03-08-09, 12:46 AM

Why are the white words blooming so much on the Panasonic? Does it look that bad in person?

Also, my Dark Knight recommendations are:

1. A close-up of the Joker's face paint during his interrogation by Batman.

2. The scene where the Joker blows up the hospital.

omeletpants · 03-08-09, 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cleveland Plasma

(Panasonic TH-50PZ800U on top, Samsung UN55B7100 on bottom)

Panasonic:

Samsung:

Significantly more detail in the flames and debris on the Samsung.

Cleveland Plasma · 03-08-09, 12:49 AM

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(Watch the movie too

)

(Panasonic TH-50PZ800U on top, Samsung UN55B7100 on bottom)

Panasonic:

Samsung:

combatsambo · 03-08-09, 12:49 AM

THXS!

Wow, difference is very apparent- Sammy's details, sharper crisp pic., can see the texture like difference in the airplanes depicted, and the explosion.

Slain93gsr · 03-08-09, 12:53 AM

thanks for getting the calibrated reviews up

pikoo · 03-08-09, 12:54 AM

Did the calibrator find any disadvantages of edge-lit LED? Like the corners are more lit than in the middle? Or, any non-uniformity of the screen?

Cleveland Plasma · 03-08-09, 01:04 AM

(Panasonic TH-50PZ800U on top, Samsung UN55B7100 on bottom) Looks like I flinched, sorry.........

Panasonic:

Samsung:

StinDaWg · 03-08-09, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by d34dl1n3r

I have to disagree with the "more shadow detail" on the Sammy, at least according to the pics.

I agree. There is more detail in the Panasonic on the Jokers outfit and on the masks of the bank robbers.

At the very least there is not much difference between the two sets. It is up to you whether you want to pay $1000+ more for the Samsung and have a 3" smaller screen.

Cleveland Plasma · 03-08-09, 01:11 AM

(Panasonic TH-50PZ800U on top, Samsung UN55B7100 on bottom)

Panasonic:

Samsung:

combatsambo · 03-08-09, 01:12 AM

Yuk,....Sammy stinks... look at the blurry pic. of the joker compared to the Panny. LOL

StinDaWg · 03-08-09, 01:17 AM

Chris, I thought you had a 58pz800u? There is no 50px800u model.

Cleveland Plasma · 03-08-09, 01:19 AM

Come on now man. TH-50PZ800U (Typo in title)...I sold the 58PZ800U, I am not going to have him calibrate that unit. I have a few TH-50PZ800U open boxed units here, now the one is worth more

Again, I have to note these are both great displays. I do not care what you buy, as long as you buy from a forum sponser

Orta · 03-08-09, 01:37 AM

The Samsung looks warmer (color temp) than the Panasonic, seems like he used Warm2 over 1. Based on the shadow detail, it also looks like Samsung's sticking with the relatively high gamma in the low end that flirts with crushing. That was definitely on display in the '08s too. FWIW, last years 650+ Series LCD's measured higher real world contrasts than any of '08 Panasonics in every professional review I came across. What backlight setting did you wind up with on the 7100, and are you using (or noticed) any auto dimming features?

Cleveland Plasma · 03-08-09, 01:41 AM

Backlight 6

Slain93gsr · 03-08-09, 01:57 AM

is it possible to throw in I am legend pic where Will Smith closes all the steel blinds

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kizzlickenzzz Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 41	Why are the white words blooming so much on the Panasonic? Does it look that bad in person? Also, my Dark Knight recommendations are: 1. A close-up of the Joker's face paint during his interrogation by Batman. 2. The scene where the Joker blows up the hospital.

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combatsambo Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 148	THXS! Wow, difference is very apparent- Sammy's details, sharper crisp pic., can see the texture like difference in the airplanes depicted, and the explosion.

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Orta AVS Special Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,143	The Samsung looks warmer (color temp) than the Panasonic, seems like he used Warm2 over 1. Based on the shadow detail, it also looks like Samsung's sticking with the relatively high gamma in the low end that flirts with crushing. That was definitely on display in the '08s too. FWIW, last years 650+ Series LCD's measured higher real world contrasts than any of '08 Panasonics in every professional review I came across. What backlight setting did you wind up with on the 7100, and are you using (or noticed) any auto dimming features?

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