Pioneer KRP Shipments and Damage Tracking Thread

ndisgii · 03-13-09, 07:10 PM

Just figured I would start up a tracking thread for those that have bought Pioneer KRP models recently, especially the 600M due to its larger size and chance of being broken. As some may know, there has been a overwhelming amount of cracked ones arriving. Its getting hard to remember who has received a good and who has not. I dont want to clutter up the owners thread with it too much. Lets start an ongoing post that summarizes the results so far. Please reply whether good or bad, just so we can keep track. Thanks to all that participate! I will start it if you want. Just include what model it is, where it shipped from, whether it "had pallet" or "no pallet", condition of box it was in, and the results of the shipment. I'll start:

600M - Hauppauge, NY or Whittier, CA? - had pallet - box in perfect shape - screen cracked

***** 600M *****

Broken = 41
ndisgii, jfkrane, mlb11, blb1215, johnnyb05, pizzabob, mfb, rougebear, ndskurfer,
jaffo_botz, bash, pizzabob, Jaffo_botz, wrbanks, mrTapout, gortnacory, anegrus,
anegrus, anegrus, anegrus, fenwayfan, NateTTU, docmal, whityfrd, TimV, Roman707,
Chhuong, mctwist, kennelm, OC Express, whityfrd, pikkashoe, poki168, Chopalua,
whityfrd, scratch, krik, amheck, bittornado, rodrigohat, scratch

Good = 75
roberto, bfdtv, flashjordon, essgee, jfkrane, PBJunior2, bernito, mlb11, ndisgii,
SoSo, keyonman, mlmflip, link93, mfb, johnnyb05, Dean Prestholt, rledington@comca,
whimsy, tech freak, wilfred80, ndskurfer, woody888, bigpaulp, Jaffo_botz, irfan,
jimim, RichB, fenwayfan, DancingBear, bhaycraft, notoriousmatty, DefiantGSR,
frustated, chucksva, JC480, delar, NateTTU, IceTBC, docmal, carftopher, gortnacory,
smallfish, TPnBobcats, slmateoca, plasma_cricket, fronk71, ArieS1204, roman707, kblaw,
leedom, YOTR, poki168, stlblufan, whityfrd, eehtee, mksner, OC Express, teknikk7,
adinn, rolesium, Tim McCune, 1CrazyDJ, W3bbY, dkinion, kennelm, chargedmr2,
Riot Nrrrd, krpguy, jschillereff, krik, Galun, rodrigohat, Chhuong, Magnus_CA, TimV

***** 500M *****

Broken = 11
eelton, fusion, rejuvinator, tony9, jbrady3324, flatninth, edpowers, music_dude,
music_dude, funkyman, music_dude,

Good = 35
essgee, chrisherbert, pizzabob, coffeemugg, dmichael, thepenguin99, williamtassone,
Otokejr, RichB, eelton, Management, kevink109, shawn1, comradesuhov, jdbimmer,
parkgt, riverhound, Daniel Hutnicki, tony9, elDub13, bodosom, fusion, W3bbY, jbrady3324,
flankerh, rejuvinator, flatninth, jambam, edpowers, aross99, Bruce N, chucksva, edpowers,
ScottAllyn, bdbb

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jfkrane · 03-13-09, 07:15 PM

600M - Middletown, NY? - no pallet? - cracked!

mlb11 · 03-13-09, 09:58 PM

600M - Ohio - pallet - box perfect - screen cracked - manufacture date 11/08

creemail · 03-13-09, 10:19 PM

Man...these are high risk displays. No wonder they are discounted. LOL!

Chris

Roberto · 03-14-09, 12:24 AM

Just to add one bright spot (for me at least

):

600M - Whittier, CA - with palette - one 3" hole in box - manufacture date 10/08 - flawless display

bfdtv · 03-14-09, 12:43 AM

600M - Cinnaminson, NJ -- no palette -- one 4" hole in side of box -- manufacture date 01/09 -- flawless display so far

The distributor was Almo Corporation from Philadelphia, PA. The delivery company was New Penn, whose service center is in Cinnaminson, NJ.

blb1215 · 03-14-09, 09:39 AM

600M - Milwaukee - no pallet - screen cracked

ndisgii · 03-14-09, 09:46 AM

updated original post with totals....thanks everyone and keep em coming.

johnnyb05 · 03-14-09, 10:06 AM

KRP-600m. three big cracks. from ohio warehouse to pilot freight co, at JFK n.y. Box looked a little beat up, it was on a pallet. one man delivery (had to help him) wasnt strapped down in truck. talked to monitoroutlet late friday, told me all three of his warehouses are out of stock. expects them to come in to hauppauge n.y. next friday. i will most likely go get it from warehouse directly. i will be able to inspect screen at warehouse.

RichB · 03-14-09, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ndisgii

updated original post with totals....thanks everyone and keep em coming.

Good idea.
It might have been better as a poll, it counts for you.
Can that be done after the fact?

- Rich

pizzabob · 03-14-09, 10:08 AM

600M - Ohio - pallet removed in truck then delivered into house - box in very good shape - big cracks - build date 11/2008

creemail · 03-14-09, 11:09 AM

Wow...

What is happening is that the the distributor could have received them damaged. However, I won't make that assumption. I believe they could damage during transit.

Chris

ndisgii · 03-14-09, 11:44 AM

Thanks again everyone. Updated...

Creemail:
Dont know if a poll can be done after the fact, but I'll keep the totals in the original post updated as I see them come in. Also, I agree that the distributer could have got them damaged, but who knows really. This is an unusually high broken amount for sure and it sucks

maxdog03 · 03-14-09, 12:06 PM

Dang, what are these guys doing in either shipping or warehousing of these TV's. I guess the good news is parts will be plentiful at this rate.

ndisgii · 03-14-09, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxdog03

Dang, what are these guys doing in either shipping or warehousing of these TV's. I guess the good news is parts will be plentiful at this rate.

All parts except glass...lol...but then again, if if only a handful of people have these puppies, theres not much need for parts

FlashJordan · 03-14-09, 12:36 PM

600M - from Columbus, Ohio - delivered by Pilot - strapped to wood pallet - box perfect - screen perfect - manufacture date 11/08

I feel bad to so many that have had bad luck with these. I'm hoping it was an isolated batch and that you'll be ok on the replacements.

Mine was delivered Tues. and I'm very happy so far. No dead pixels, minimal "dirty screen effect" (BIG improvement compared to the 6020 I returned which had terrible DSE).

ROMAN O · 03-14-09, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by creemail

Wow...

What is happening is that the the distributor could have received them damaged. However, I won't make that assumption. I believe they could damage during transit.

Chris

Yea I was trying to make an assumption as well but its impossible since all of these are coming from different disti's and shipping companies

creemail · 03-14-09, 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ROMAN O

Yea I was trying to make an assumption as well but its impossible since all of these are coming from different disti's and shipping companies

Exactly...

Chris

ndisgii · 03-14-09, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlashJordan

600M - from Columbus, Ohio - delivered by Pilot - strapped to wood pallet - box perfect - screen perfect - manufacture date 11/08

I feel bad to so many that have had bad luck with these. I'm hoping it was an isolated batch and that you'll be ok on the replacements.

Mine was delivered Tues. and I'm very happy so far. No dead pixels, minimal "dirty screen effect" (BIG improvement compared to the 6020 I returned which had terrible DSE).

Congrats on the good one. I am also hoping the replacements come in ok. No more of this BS.

Roberto · 03-14-09, 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FlashJordan

600M - from Columbus, Ohio - delivered by Pilot - strapped to wood pallet - box perfect - screen perfect - manufacture date 11/08

I feel bad to so many that have had bad luck with these. I'm hoping it was an isolated batch and that you'll be ok on the replacements.

Mine was delivered Tues. and I'm very happy so far. No dead pixels, minimal "dirty screen effect" (BIG improvement compared to the 6020 I returned which had terrible DSE).

Never heard of DSE before. I looked it up on the forum and ran a picture test. I could see a subtle effect, but only if I looked very closely. So it sounds like DSE isn't much of a problem any more. No dead pixels yet on my display either.

mlb11 · 03-16-09, 06:41 PM

Anyone with damaged 600M's at home: has a shipper come to pick it up yet?

Just wondering....thanks.

creemail · 03-16-09, 06:58 PM

Replacements will become harder and harder as days and months roll along. I won't be surprised to see if someone gets a 6020FD as a replacement.

Chris

ndisgii · 03-16-09, 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by creemail

Replacements will become harder and harder as days and months roll along. I won't be surprised to see if someone gets a 6020FD as a replacement.

Chris

If replacements like that happen, I better be seeing a 141FD

Much closer in spec to the 600M. But thats just my wishful thinking

jfkrane · 03-16-09, 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mlb11

Anyone with damaged 600M's at home: has a shipper come to pick it up yet?

Just wondering....thanks.

My damaged unit was picked up today.

johnnyb05 · 03-16-09, 09:00 PM

i didnt let him leave without opening box. thats what anyone should do.

creemail · 03-16-09, 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnnyb05

i didnt let him leave without opening box. thats what anyone should do.

I agree. It's tougher for you to argue your case regarding concealed damage. It's imperative for large/expensive items to be thoroughly checked before signing the dotted line.

Chris

mlb11 · 03-16-09, 09:38 PM

Thanks for the advice. Everything is already taken care of, I'm just waiting for the shippers to pick up the damaged unit. My replacement will go out by the end of the week.

mfb · 03-17-09, 02:14 PM

Screen cracked...

FedEx LTL

Box was in perfect shape. Strapped, pallet.

Manufacturer date 11/08

Plasma came from Louisville, KY.

marty

turbe · 03-17-09, 02:31 PM

That's the first time I have heard that Fedex LTL shipped one.. Anyone else have experience with them (shipping displays)?

I've shipped plenty, just not sure I'd use Fed Ex for this type of shipment.

mfb · 03-17-09, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by turbe

That's the first time I have heard that Fedex LTL shipped one.. Anyone else have experience with them (shipping displays)?

I've shipped plenty, just not sure I'd use Fed Ex for this type of shipment.

The funny thing is that the box was in perfect shape. I don't think these screens are cracking during delivery.

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ndisgii Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 519	Pioneer KRP Shipments and Damage Tracking Thread Just figured I would start up a tracking thread for those that have bought Pioneer KRP models recently, especially the 600M due to its larger size and chance of being broken. As some may know, there has been a overwhelming amount of cracked ones arriving. Its getting hard to remember who has received a good and who has not. I dont want to clutter up the owners thread with it too much. Lets start an ongoing post that summarizes the results so far. Please reply whether good or bad, just so we can keep track. Thanks to all that participate! I will start it if you want. Just include what model it is, where it shipped from, whether it "had pallet" or "no pallet", condition of box it was in, and the results of the shipment. I'll start: 600M - Hauppauge, NY or Whittier, CA? - had pallet - box in perfect shape - screen cracked *** 600M * Broken = 41 ndisgii, jfkrane, mlb11, blb1215, johnnyb05, pizzabob, mfb, rougebear, ndskurfer, jaffo_botz, bash, pizzabob, Jaffo_botz, wrbanks, mrTapout, gortnacory, anegrus, anegrus, anegrus, anegrus, fenwayfan, NateTTU, docmal, whityfrd, TimV, Roman707, Chhuong, mctwist, kennelm, OC Express, whityfrd, pikkashoe, poki168, Chopalua, whityfrd, scratch, krik, amheck, bittornado, rodrigohat, scratch Good = 75 roberto, bfdtv, flashjordon, essgee, jfkrane, PBJunior2, bernito, mlb11, ndisgii, SoSo, keyonman, mlmflip, link93, mfb, johnnyb05, Dean Prestholt, rledington@comca, whimsy, tech freak, wilfred80, ndskurfer, woody888, bigpaulp, Jaffo_botz, irfan, jimim, RichB, fenwayfan, DancingBear, bhaycraft, notoriousmatty, DefiantGSR, frustated, chucksva, JC480, delar, NateTTU, IceTBC, docmal, carftopher, gortnacory, smallfish, TPnBobcats, slmateoca, plasma_cricket, fronk71, ArieS1204, roman707, kblaw, leedom, YOTR, poki168, stlblufan, whityfrd, eehtee, mksner, OC Express, teknikk7, adinn, rolesium, Tim McCune, 1CrazyDJ, W3bbY, dkinion, kennelm, chargedmr2, Riot Nrrrd, krpguy, jschillereff, krik, Galun, rodrigohat, Chhuong, Magnus_CA, TimV * 500M * Broken = 11 eelton, fusion, rejuvinator, tony9, jbrady3324, flatninth, edpowers, music_dude, music_dude, funkyman, music_dude, Good = 35** essgee, chrisherbert, pizzabob, coffeemugg, dmichael, thepenguin99, williamtassone, Otokejr, RichB, eelton, Management, kevink109, shawn1, comradesuhov, jdbimmer, parkgt, riverhound, Daniel Hutnicki, tony9, elDub13, bodosom, fusion, W3bbY, jbrady3324, flankerh, rejuvinator, flatninth, jambam, edpowers, aross99, Bruce N, chucksva, edpowers, ScottAllyn, bdbb . Last edited by ndisgii; 06-25-09 at 07:08 PM..

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Roberto Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 100	Just to add one bright spot (for me at least ): 600M - Whittier, CA - with palette - one 3" hole in box - manufacture date 10/08 - flawless display

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turbe AVS Special Member Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Lake Tahoe, NV Posts: 2,902	That's the first time I have heard that Fedex LTL shipped one.. Anyone else have experience with them (shipping displays)? I've shipped plenty, just not sure I'd use Fed Ex for this type of shipment. __________________ ISF Professionals who calibrate the Pioneer 9G Elites (ISFccc) and Non-Elites. Pioneer Owner's Calibration Reports The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation. Henry David Thoreau

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mlb11 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 102	600M - Ohio - pallet - box perfect - screen cracked - manufacture date 11/08

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creemail AVisionarist! AVS CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,087	Man...these are high risk displays. No wonder they are discounted. LOL! Chris

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ndisgii Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 519	updated original post with totals....thanks everyone and keep em coming.

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johnnyb05 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 125	KRP-600m. three big cracks. from ohio warehouse to pilot freight co, at JFK n.y. Box looked a little beat up, it was on a pallet. one man delivery (had to help him) wasnt strapped down in truck. talked to monitoroutlet late friday, told me all three of his warehouses are out of stock. expects them to come in to hauppauge n.y. next friday. i will most likely go get it from warehouse directly. i will be able to inspect screen at warehouse.

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creemail AVisionarist! AVS CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,087	Wow... What is happening is that the the distributor could have received them damaged. However, I won't make that assumption. I believe they could damage during transit. Chris

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ndisgii Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 519	Thanks again everyone. Updated... Creemail: Dont know if a poll can be done after the fact, but I'll keep the totals in the original post updated as I see them come in. Also, I agree that the distributer could have got them damaged, but who knows really. This is an unusually high broken amount for sure and it sucks

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maxdog03 AVS Special Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 2,685	Dang, what are these guys doing in either shipping or warehousing of these TV's. I guess the good news is parts will be plentiful at this rate.

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FlashJordan Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 55	600M - from Columbus, Ohio - delivered by Pilot - strapped to wood pallet - box perfect - screen perfect - manufacture date 11/08 I feel bad to so many that have had bad luck with these. I'm hoping it was an isolated batch and that you'll be ok on the replacements. Mine was delivered Tues. and I'm very happy so far. No dead pixels, minimal "dirty screen effect" (BIG improvement compared to the 6020 I returned which had terrible DSE).

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mlb11 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 102	Anyone with damaged 600M's at home: has a shipper come to pick it up yet? Just wondering....thanks.

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creemail AVisionarist! AVS CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Sep 2006 Posts: 5,087	Replacements will become harder and harder as days and months roll along. I won't be surprised to see if someone gets a 6020FD as a replacement. Chris

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johnnyb05 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 125	i didnt let him leave without opening box. thats what anyone should do.

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mlb11 Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 102	Thanks for the advice. Everything is already taken care of, I'm just waiting for the shippers to pick up the damaged unit. My replacement will go out by the end of the week.