Forrest Gump (1994) ---- November 3rd

[linkin09]

Not sure, if it'll be a 2-Disc Special Collector's Edition. Expect a 2.35:1 (1080p) with TrueHD 5.1

[cobolisdead]

Link?

[Kram Sacul]

1.85:1? I don't think so.

[MEC2]

SWEET. Been waiting on this...

[eric.exe]

It's either going to look like crap and/or be DNR'd to hell unless it gets a new transfer.

Also, OAR is 2.35:1, guy.

[Kram Sacul]

The version that's been seen on various HD channels looked like roadkill so the expectation are really low. Plus it's Paramount.

[lgans316]

I trust Paramount for new releases but definitely not for catalog titles.

[linkin09]

okay... 2.35:1. Dont kill me please! Geeez lol.

[DavidHir]

DNR is as DNR does.

[xAVHTx]

DNR's like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get.

[butsu]

Originally Posted by xAVHTx

DNR's like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get.

Very nice flick.

[butsu]

I thought this time Paramount should do the right thing about the surround of this film cause in LD,DVD,the surround was almost sparring but in my recollection,I watched in the theater in DTS,the surround was very active from subtle to agressive in Nam war.

[William]

Originally Posted by butsu

I thought this time Paramount should do the right thing about the surround of this film cause in LD,DVD,the surround was almost sparring but in my recollection,I watched in the theater in DTS,the surround was very active from subtle to agressive in Nam war.

Forrest Gump contains NO surround sound in the film or any of the releases. So if you heard surround sound in a theater you where either mistaken or it was setup wrong. This was a what Robert Zemeckis wanted for some reason.

It would be nice if we could also get a remixed ST with surround sound. They could even include the non surround sound original for purest as long as both are TrueHD.

[Joe Przybylski]

Originally Posted by William

Forrest Gump contains NO surround sound in the film or any of the releases. So if you heard surround sound in a theater you where either mistaken or it was setup wrong. This was a what Robert Zemeckis wanted for some reason.

It would be nice if we could also get a remixed ST with surround sound. They could even include the non surround sound original for purest as long as both are TrueHD.

Not true. I had the Laserdisc and was working in a theater for the theatrical release of FG and I clearly remember actions sequences having a lot of ambient surround sound.

I found this online from the site of one of the films sound designers:

"Surrounds were an interesting issue on Gump. What with Pro Logic and AC3 there has been a flood of interest in surrounds, and the tendency now is sometimes to put lots of stuff into the surrounds just for the sake of novelty. Some movies can benefit from heavy use of surrounds and some will suffer from it. Bob Zemeckis and I agreed that Gump was in the latter category, so we used surrounds sparingly. Most of the score was bled into the surrounds, some ambiences, a couple of aircraft fly-overs, some bullet-by's, and that's about it. I'm not against surrounds, but we thought there was a danger of distracting the audience from this particular story by feeding too much material into the rear of the theater. "

http://filmsound.org/randythom/forrest.htm

[saginawjuggalo]

Originally Posted by davidhir

dnr is as dnr does.

Originally Posted by xavhtx

dnr's like a box of chocolates... You never know what you're gonna get.

Priceless

[Rhoq]

Originally Posted by xAVHTx

DNR's like a box of chocolates... you never know what you're gonna get.

LMAO - that's perfect!

[AlexBC]

Originally Posted by William

Forrest Gump contains NO surround sound in the film or any of the releases. So if you heard surround sound in a theater you where either mistaken or it was setup wrong. This was a what Robert Zemeckis wanted for some reason.

It would be nice if we could also get a remixed ST with surround sound. They could even include the non surround sound original for purest as long as both are TrueHD.

William,

that's not really true. I don't know about surround activity in cinema mixes like Joe Przybylski said (I don't even live in the US, nor did I catch this at local theaters), but there's a curious fact know to LD collectors.

For the AC-3 LD (DD LD for the younger crowd), apparently, the sound mixers decided to play a joke on Zemeckis, who supposedly only supervised the 5.1 mix, which according to his whises, had basically no surround activity like you said. The 'joke' is that the stereo surround PCM mix is an absolute killer, one of the best tracks ever put to the format.

The sound mixers quietly created and included in the retail LD version this fantastic and agressive 2.0 mix that beats many 5.1 tracks out there, and faithfully presented in PCM (one of the great joys of the LD days).

If you' re interested in this issue, check and the old sections here and on the HTF, you'll probably find much discussion about it. So what you suggested, basically already exists.

[Rachael Bellomy]

The last few Paramount catalog titles I've seen were like a box of chocolates where you knew what you were getting, noise reduced chocolates. Until Paramount straightens up their act, I won't even dream of preordering any catalog title they spit out.

As much as I like this title, I'll be hesitant to buy a copy. I felt stung by Search For Red October and Star Trek. Paramount is on "double See-cret" probation with me.

[Steeb]

Originally Posted by Joe Przybylski

Not true. I had the Laserdisc and was working in a theater for the theatrical release of FG and I clearly remember actions sequences having a lot of ambient surround sound.

I found this online from the site of one of the films sound designers:

"Surrounds were an interesting issue on Gump. What with Pro Logic and AC3 there has been a flood of interest in surrounds, and the tendency now is sometimes to put lots of stuff into the surrounds just for the sake of novelty. Some movies can benefit from heavy use of surrounds and some will suffer from it. Bob Zemeckis and I agreed that Gump was in the latter category, so we used surrounds sparingly. Most of the score was bled into the surrounds, some ambiences, a couple of aircraft fly-overs, some bullet-by's, and that's about it. I'm not against surrounds, but we thought there was a danger of distracting the audience from this particular story by feeding too much material into the rear of the theater. "

http://filmsound.org/randythom/forrest.htm

Thanks for posting that link - very interesting.

[rover2002]

Originally Posted by Rachael Bellomy

The last few Paramount catalog titles I've seen were like a box of chocolates where you knew what you were getting, noise reduced chocolates. Until Paramount straightens up their act, I won't even dream of preordering any catalog title they spit out.

As much as I like this title, I'll be hesitant to buy a copy. I felt stung by Search For Red October and Star Trek. Paramount is on "double See-cret" probation with me.

Run Paramount, run!

[Rachael Bellomy]

Originally Posted by rover2002

Run Paramount, run!

They better catch up with Lola, before I pounce on 'em!

[joerod]

These Blu ray titles are like a box of chocolates, we never know what were going to get.

[butsu]

Originally Posted by William

Forrest Gump contains NO surround sound in the film or any of the releases. So if you heard surround sound in a theater you where either mistaken or it was setup wrong. This was a what Robert Zemeckis wanted for some reason.

It would be nice if we could also get a remixed ST with surround sound. They could even include the non surround sound original for purest as long as both are TrueHD.

This was not true since I ain't the old one and my recollection is also good especially with this film.R.Zemeckis've the reputation for great sound and great CGI in every films he make so why not,for this film.

[butsu]

Originally Posted by Joe Przybylski

Not true. I had the Laserdisc and was working in a theater for the theatrical release of FG and I clearly remember actions sequences having a lot of ambient surround sound.

I found this online from the site of one of the films sound designers:

"Surrounds were an interesting issue on Gump. What with Pro Logic and AC3 there has been a flood of interest in surrounds, and the tendency now is sometimes to put lots of stuff into the surrounds just for the sake of novelty. Some movies can benefit from heavy use of surrounds and some will suffer from it. Bob Zemeckis and I agreed that Gump was in the latter category, so we used surrounds sparingly. Most of the score was bled into the surrounds, some ambiences, a couple of aircraft fly-overs, some bullet-by's, and that's about it. I'm not against surrounds, but we thought there was a danger of distracting the audience from this particular story by feeding too much material into the rear of the theater. "

http://filmsound.org/randythom/forrest.htm

Thanks for this great information.

[butsu]

Originally Posted by AlexBC

William,

that's not really true. I don't know about surround activity in cinema mixes like Joe Przybylski said (I don't even live in the US, nor did I catch this at local theaters), but there's a curious fact know to LD collectors.

For the AC-3 LD (DD LD for the younger crowd), apparently, the sound mixers decided to play a joke on Zemeckis, who supposedly only supervised the 5.1 mix, which according to his whises, had basically no surround activity like you said. The 'joke' is that the stereo surround PCM mix, is an absolute killer, one of the best tracks ever put to the format.

The sound mixers quietly created and included in the retail disc a fantastic and agressive 2.0 mix that beats many 5.1 tracks out there, and faithfully presented in PCM (one of the great joys of the LD days).

If you' re interested in this issue, check and the old sections here and on the HTF, you'll probably find much discussion about it. So what you suggested, basically already exists.

Thanks you too.When I watched dvd of this film with high expectation for perhaps, Paramount would corrected the sourround issue but they didn't,made me very disappointed.

[butsu]

Originally Posted by joerod

These Blu ray titles are like a box of chocolates, we never know what were going to get.

It might be true as FG words for you never know what the surround ,you will get for this BD.

[AlexBC]

Originally Posted by butsu

Thanks you too.When I watched dvd of this film with high expectation for perhaps, Paramount would corrected the sourround issue but they didn't,made me very disappointed.

butsu,

the thing is we shouldn't really expect a version with 'corrected sourround issue' because the existing 5.1 mix is actually the correct version. It's what the filmmakers intended. I really doubt they will be messing with that again.

As a matter of fact, from what I heard back in those days of the LD discussion, Zemeckis was really pissed at the studio for this move. I just posted it as curiosity, but I doubt that mix will ever surfice again (too bad, as it is an incredible mix).

BTW, I have tons of info for your thread about different versions worldwide. It's just that I can't find the the time to get around and compile all the info together.

[butsu]

Originally Posted by AlexBC

butsu,

the thing is we shouldn't really expect a version with 'corrected sourround issue' because the existing 5.1 mix is actually the correct version. It's what the filmmakers intended. I really doubt they will be messing with that again.

As a matter of fact, from what I heard back in those days of the LD discussion, Zemeckis was really pissed at the studio for this move. I just posted it as curiosity, but I doubt that mix will ever surfice again (too bad, as it is an incredible mix).

BTW, I have tons of info for your thread about different versions worldwide. It's just that I can't find the the time to get around and compile all the info together.

Greeting,so Paramount will likely to use the same old master from the old day for LD,DVD again.Let's hope Bob and the company changing their minds,thanks.

[Franin]

Excellent looking forward to watching this again.

[Yumbo]

Sounded good in the cinema, sounded good on DVD.