Panasonic PT-AE4000 MSRP $1999

Tweakophyte · 10-08-09, 08:54 AM

Projector Central just posted a review of the Panny AE4000 and it looks like it will list for a hair under $2K.

Bench-racing just got more interesting!

Here is the link to the Panasonic Site.

Link to the spec sheet.

Links to manuals.

Thanks to the guys on the >$3k forums for keeping this warm for us.

Tweakophyte · 10-08-09, 08:57 AM

Link to a video about the new PJ.

Thanks, Lorjam.

Studio2000 · 10-08-09, 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tweakophyte

Link to a video about the new PJ.

Thanks, Lorjam.

Guys, this is a serious price drop which will spark competitors in rethinking their pricing on some of the new models that came out.

Could we see prices dropping on other units by year end?

This will be very interesting to see what happens.

I dont own a PJ, but now I have these three on my list:

1) Sony VPL - HW 15
2) Mitsubishi HC3800
3) Panasonic AE4000

I hope to see all three of these in the future.

Dave

m0tion · 10-08-09, 09:28 AM

ae4000 v. epson 8100? Which to choose in a room with some ambient light? Is it worth the extra $400?!?! =)

BowWowz · 10-08-09, 09:34 AM

I think the Epson is brighter so maybe in a room with light it is the better choice.

It looks like the Panny will thoroughly trounce the Epson in a light controlled theater though.

Robert Clark · 10-08-09, 09:39 AM

100,000 to 1 contrast, frame interpolation, lens memory, lens shift for under 2 large? Yeah, the game has changed...

The AE3000 was an excellent projector, this looks better in every way.

oman321 · 10-08-09, 09:39 AM

Very cool, however MSRP is $2,499.00

HogPilot · 10-08-09, 09:44 AM

Can the mods merge the other thread into this one?

BowWowz · 10-08-09, 09:45 AM

I'd given up my dreams of a CIH setup due to the associated costs... now its back on the table. Its between this and the Mitsubishi HC3800 for me.

This PJ is a game-changer for sure.

John Thacker · 10-08-09, 09:53 AM

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Originally Posted by oman321

Very cool, however MSRP is $2,499.00

MSRP is $2499.00 according to the press release, but Panasonic projectors have a history of a street price well under MSRP immediately upon introduction. That's in contrast to Epson projectors, where MSRP really seems to mean MSRP, except for announced rebates.

Evan's review doesn't say that the MSRP will be $1999, only that that the street price will be. Presumably he means MSRP of $2499 but MAP of $1999?

Studio2000 · 10-08-09, 09:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BowWowz

I'd given up my dreams of a CIH setup due to the associated costs... now its back on the table. Its between this and the Mitsubishi HC3800 for me.

This PJ is a game-changer for sure.

Notice PC review shows street price, which would be the retail price of $1999. This makes sense since the MSRP itself will reflect the $2499.

Thus MSRP OR LIST = $2499
Sales Price/Retail Price = $1999, so maybe this thread header should be changed. This is how I understand it. Still fantastic price and I hope other competitors will drop prices so I can have more options

Dave

buddahead · 10-08-09, 10:05 AM

Looks like panasonic is throwing down the Gaunlet.Pretty much PUTS Sony JVC EPSON ect out of buisness.

TF Ghost · 10-08-09, 10:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddahead

Pretty much PUTS Sony JVC EPSON ect out of buisness.

dogone · 10-08-09, 10:11 AM

Oh happy days!...The only sad news is I just put a new bulb in my 3000U and now someone is going to be able to steal it from me...

oman321 · 10-08-09, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by John Thacker

MSRP is $2499.00 according to the press release, but Panasonic projectors have a history of a street price well under MSRP immediately upon introduction. That's in contrast to Epson projectors, where MSRP really seems to mean MSRP, except for announced rebates.

Evan's review doesn't say that the MSRP will be $1999, only that that the street price will be. Presumably he means MSRP of $2499 but MAP of $1999?

I agree and saw they mentioned street on the review. To the left of that review it shows MSRP $2,499, my post was in regards to the title of the thread so I just wanted to clarify. I'm loving 1,999.00 for this projector though.

dogone · 10-08-09, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buddahead

Looks like panasonic is throwing down the Gaunlet.Pretty much PUTS Sony JVC EPSON ect out of buisness.

If not, they'll be eating macaroni and cheese for a while...lol...

John Thacker · 10-08-09, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oman321

I agree and saw they mentioned street on the review. To the left of that review it shows MSRP $2,499, my post was in regards to the title of the thread so I just wanted to clarify. I'm loving 1,999.00 for this projector though.

Yep. I imagine that Epson's "undetermined MSRP but below $3000" for the 8500UB just dropped a bit.

gwlaw99 · 10-08-09, 10:30 AM

Way to go Panasonic. They are doing to the $2000 range what Optoma did to the $1000 range.

Terminator840 · 10-08-09, 11:56 AM

I'd never thought it, this is very exciting. I've been looking at pjs for I while now and my room is almost ready.

mintchris · 10-08-09, 12:03 PM

I just posted this in another thread but... has anyone seen the updated price of the 3000? I checked last night and couldnt believe how low it was. Just checked again..WOW! Should I pull the trigger or wait for the 4000?

vid53 · 10-08-09, 12:08 PM

My guess is that they dropped the AE3000 to $1999 and will sell the AE4000 at the $2299 price. I'm going to wait

mintchris · 10-08-09, 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vid53

My guess is that they dropped the AE3000 to $1999 and will sell the AE4000 at the $2299 price. I'm going to wait

The AE3000 is at $1699 now!

BowWowz · 10-08-09, 12:14 PM

Nice!
OK, now that's one more to consider. Ugh.

Maestro J · 10-08-09, 12:22 PM

So when will it show up on PP's website? Any idea? Release still end of October?

Kelvin1965S · 10-08-09, 12:51 PM

Just starting to appear on UK dealer's websites now. They are posting £2,399 pre order and £2,499 as 'normal' retail price once launched. Looks like you guys are getting a much better deal than we are, not that I'm in the market myself thankfully.

mintchris · 10-08-09, 01:11 PM

Posted in the other thread as well:

I just got confirmation from PP that it will in fact be $1999!!!! How crazy is that?? Also that " the 4000 is superior in every respect to the 3000"
They said they "heard it could be in by the end of the month".

benareeno · 10-08-09, 01:35 PM

THis is definitely a game changer...I love the smooth screen technology. And if the red color is more accurate, this could be huge! It's really remarkable what can be had for 2k these days...

jsm88 · 10-08-09, 01:39 PM

guess I'll ask the question in the proper forum now

huge news on the pricing, pulls me back from all the brighter pj's I was looking at. Question for the group: I have a new, large room, non-light controlled (for daytime sports) but which can get quite dark (so a high contrast pj is still worthwhile). I am currently using a holdover ae900 shooting a 144" (like it BIG) picture at 17 feet. the PC calc says that's 7FL on the screen. It is clearly no good for daytime sports but works in the evenings. The PC calc says the 3000 would put 11FL on the screen with those specs - I'm assuming the 4000 will be higher. Will a 50% increase be enough for the daytime viewing (bad blacks and all) or do I have to give up all the cool features of the 4000 and stick with one of these new, bright dlps?

before anyone asks, I've tried the epsons, they are certainly bright, but I (and that's all that matters, if you can't, good for you) can clearly see the pixel structure on the epsons and that kills it for me. If I'm going with LCD again it's smoothscreen or bust. Thanks.

oman321 · 10-08-09, 02:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mintchris

Posted in the other thread as well:

I just got confirmation from PP that it will in fact be $1999!!!! How crazy is that?? Also that " the 4000 is superior in every respect to the 3000"
They said they "heard it could be in by the end of the month".

It's funny how just before Cedia they had bumped up the price on the 3000 by 300 bucks

Hopefully not to many got taken, especially for what it's going for now.

Randy Mathis · 10-08-09, 02:45 PM

I just pee'd a little.

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mintchris Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 78	Posted in the other thread as well: I just got confirmation from PP that it will in fact be $1999!!!! How crazy is that?? Also that " the 4000 is superior in every respect to the 3000" They said they "heard it could be in by the end of the month".

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benareeno AVS Special Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Ottawa, Ontario Posts: 1,670	THis is definitely a game changer...I love the smooth screen technology. And if the red color is more accurate, this could be huge! It's really remarkable what can be had for 2k these days...

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jsm88 Political Hack Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 846	guess I'll ask the question in the proper forum now huge news on the pricing, pulls me back from all the brighter pj's I was looking at. Question for the group: I have a new, large room, non-light controlled (for daytime sports) but which can get quite dark (so a high contrast pj is still worthwhile). I am currently using a holdover ae900 shooting a 144" (like it BIG) picture at 17 feet. the PC calc says that's 7FL on the screen. It is clearly no good for daytime sports but works in the evenings. The PC calc says the 3000 would put 11FL on the screen with those specs - I'm assuming the 4000 will be higher. Will a 50% increase be enough for the daytime viewing (bad blacks and all) or do I have to give up all the cool features of the 4000 and stick with one of these new, bright dlps? before anyone asks, I've tried the epsons, they are certainly bright, but I (and that's all that matters, if you can't, good for you) can clearly see the pixel structure on the epsons and that kills it for me. If I'm going with LCD again it's smoothscreen or bust. Thanks.

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