Philadelphia, PA - Comcast

DarthJedi · 10-24-02, 08:22 AM

The long awaited 2000 foot tower is now up and open for business. The first station to officially or unofficially go on line is UPN channel 57 (DT 32-1). All content was up-converted and looked pretty bad but they were the first new station on, none the less. We should not see any improvement to the station's content until the national feed sends Enterprise in HD next season.

Next up should be The WB network, channel 17 (DT 54-1). I placed a call to them last night to let them know that UPN beat them to the punch. They said they should be on by the weekend. That will be just in time to catch Tuesday's repeat of Smallville this Sunday (don't forget to set your clocks back an hour Saturday night.).

As for the other channels, who cares. Just kidding

I will update you on PAX Channel 61 (DT 31-1), Telemundo (I hope I spelled it correctly), PBS (WYBE-DT 34-1), and an Independent Station (WGTW-DT 27-1 ) as soon as I get the scoop.

May HD be with you always

DarthJedi

Ralph Degenero · 10-24-02, 08:54 AM

Will FOX and NBC be on this new tower ?

DarthJedi · 10-24-02, 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by Ralph Degenero
Will FOX and NBC be on this new tower ?

I am not sure about FOX but NBC will be moving to the new tower. Their transmitter is already there but they have not given a time for the roll over.

May HD be with you always

DarthJedi.

chingko · 10-24-02, 09:22 AM

Thank you for the info Darth. Would you know the transmitter power for UPN and WB?

-Ben

Dan Bither · 10-24-02, 09:35 AM

Hopefully Darthjedi has more info on the transmitting power, but I can tell you that the UPN signal was fairly strong in Wilmington. On my HiPix I got a signal strength of 76 last night.

DarthJedi · 10-24-02, 09:35 AM

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Originally posted by chingko
Thank you for the info Darth. Would you know the transmitter power for UPN and WB?

-Ben

I don't know but I will find out for you. I can also tell you that I have the SONY HD200 and UPN is now the strongest signal I get. Before UPN it was CBS and ABC that were the strongest.

JWhip · 10-24-02, 04:59 PM

That is surprising given that 57 is at such low power. Must be the height. It is my understanding that they have shut down the antenna right now. Let us know if you are getting it now. I no longer am!

DarthJedi · 10-24-02, 05:59 PM

I am not getting it either.

FDAHLGREN · 10-24-02, 06:57 PM

According to the FCC construction permit UPN WPSG-DT will be allowed up to 250kW erp from a height of 1312'. WB WPHL-DT: 500kW @1161'
PAX WPPX-DT: 800kW @1227'
IND WGTW-DT: 225kW @1099'

gradywhite · 10-24-02, 08:37 PM

They had people climbing the tower....That is why they went down

YardleyBill · 10-25-02, 09:32 AM

Yeah, I printed out this thread, and was all excited to see the new channel when I got home.

Alas, it was not on.

Soon.....

E_One · 10-25-02, 12:30 PM

I'm glad it isn't just me not getting the signal. I got ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX and PBS. If the signal there I assume that I don't have to rotate the antena. last night I rotate the antenna like crazy, but still can't get UPN. I'll try again this weekend for WB. I forgot who posted, but he mentioned that WB will unofficially on air this weekend. We'll see.

Off topic - If UPN broadcast 76ers in HD, that would be great. Anyone know about this status? I heard that Comcast will install HD cameras in First Union Center. I hope that's not a rumor. I did not have comcast cable, so if UPN send the HD signal for the First Union Center, that would be awesome

gradywhite · 10-25-02, 02:03 PM

WPSG-DT is currently running about 8kw. Signal will go on and off, due to a variety of projects related to tower and transmitter... They will be ready for 24/7 on 11/1

JWhip · 10-25-02, 05:51 PM

8kw? d to pick that up. When I scanned early yesterday morning, I was able to pick it up. Was that only 8kw? If so, that added height really helps. Hope they will be on at their maximum rated power of 250kw on 11/1. BTW. Comcast HD is strictly a cable product. I seriously doubt that it will be on OTA for a few years, at least with the use of Comcast euipment.

Calabs · 10-25-02, 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ralph Degenero
Will FOX and NBC be on this new tower ?

Yes, from what I understand, FOX will also be on this tower.

JWhip · 10-25-02, 06:27 PM

Fox will not be on this tower. They will be on another tower but much higher up and they will be at 1 megawatt. They should be up and running by the spring.

Calabs · 10-25-02, 06:43 PM

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Originally posted by JWhip
Fox will not be on this tower. They will be on another tower but much higher up and they will be at 1 megawatt. They should be up and running by the spring.

OK, Now I'm REALLY confused!

There are TWO towers going up in the Philly area? Can you claify what you mean by another tower? The info I got, and of course it could be totally wrong, said that WTXF (FOX)will be going on the same tower as WCAU (NBC) and WPSG (UPN), as well as WPHL (WB). JWhip - I hope you wrong, cause I can't get WTXF very well where I live.

JWhip · 10-25-02, 10:14 PM

Fox will be moving their position to another tower where channel 35 (analog) is presently. They will be at nearly 1000 feet whereas they are at about 500 feet at another location in Andorra. Once they install their new antenna in the fall and go to their new power level (once the FCC approves it, you will have no trouble getting them.

LarryGMarrow · 10-25-02, 11:57 PM

why can't we get any information on the status of WCAU? I can receive and maintain signals from every station except WCAU

donecker · 10-26-02, 08:17 AM

This is all good news! I picked up UPN by accident last week--what a nice surprise.

The only station I can't get hipix to pick up now is PBS--weird.

LarryGMarrow · 10-26-02, 08:17 PM

i seem to have lost the upn signal (32.1) here in the philadelphia area. has it gone off the air?

JWhip · 10-27-02, 08:28 AM

Yes. They tirned it off so that channel 17 could complete work on their antenna.

MSmith · 10-28-02, 12:33 PM

I went looking for these stations all weekend, and didn't find either. However, I'm in the fringe and only using an indoor antenna at the moment. I'm probably going to try an attic antenna soon.

JWhip · 10-28-02, 05:35 PM

I was told that a fm antenna was being placed on the tower today so no 32-1 was on. If it rains tomorrow, there will be no work on the tower. They will turn it on tomorrow if that is the case.

DarthJedi · 10-29-02, 05:42 PM

Don't forget to check channel 54 tonight. WB said they will turn their signal on at 9pm tonight.

Dan Bither · 10-29-02, 06:48 PM

Cool! Just in time for Smallville.

gradywhite · 10-29-02, 07:21 PM

8.8kw into antenna effective output from antenna 107kw - but all that matters not, since they are running to dummy load until the other folks clear off tower.

They might be back up in time for Enterprise - just get those people off the tower !!!

JWhip · 10-29-02, 07:35 PM

Let us know if WB 17 is up and running and whether they will be staying on or just still testing!

DarthJedi · 10-29-02, 09:07 PM

no WB yet

DarthJedi · 10-29-02, 09:17 PM

Everyone Please join me in calling the WB and let them know that you are not getting a signal. They are saying it is on and I am not getting it I live one mile form the tower with a clean shot. The number is 215 878-1700 press 3 for news, ask them to transfer you to engineering

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DarthJedi HD KNIGHT Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Wynnewood, PA Posts: 578	Philadelphia, PA - Comcast The long awaited 2000 foot tower is now up and open for business. The first station to officially or unofficially go on line is UPN channel 57 (DT 32-1). All content was up-converted and looked pretty bad but they were the first new station on, none the less. We should not see any improvement to the station's content until the national feed sends Enterprise in HD next season. Next up should be The WB network, channel 17 (DT 54-1). I placed a call to them last night to let them know that UPN beat them to the punch. They said they should be on by the weekend. That will be just in time to catch Tuesday's repeat of Smallville this Sunday (don't forget to set your clocks back an hour Saturday night.). As for the other channels, who cares. Just kidding I will update you on PAX Channel 61 (DT 31-1), Telemundo (I hope I spelled it correctly), PBS (WYBE-DT 34-1), and an Independent Station (WGTW-DT 27-1 ) as soon as I get the scoop. May HD be with you always DarthJedi Last edited by DarthJedi; 10-24-02 at 09:10 AM..

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Dan Bither Advanced Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Wilmington DE USA Posts: 509	Hopefully Darthjedi has more info on the transmitting power, but I can tell you that the UPN signal was fairly strong in Wilmington. On my HiPix I got a signal strength of 76 last night.

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DarthJedi HD KNIGHT Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Wynnewood, PA Posts: 578	I am not getting it either. __________________ May HD be with you always DarthJedi XBOX LIVE: ForceFields

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FDAHLGREN Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: nj Posts: 21	According to the FCC construction permit UPN WPSG-DT will be allowed up to 250kW erp from a height of 1312'. WB WPHL-DT: 500kW @1161' PAX WPPX-DT: 800kW @1227' IND WGTW-DT: 225kW @1099' __________________ F.D.

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gradywhite Lover of RF Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gloucester County, NJ Posts: 24	PSG signal loss They had people climbing the tower....That is why they went down

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Ralph Degenero Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pequea , Pennsylvania Posts: 179	Will FOX and NBC be on this new tower ?

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chingko Goldmember Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: NJ Posts: 175	Thank you for the info Darth. Would you know the transmitter power for UPN and WB? -Ben

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JWhip AVS Special Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wayne, PA Posts: 3,446	That is surprising given that 57 is at such low power. Must be the height. It is my understanding that they have shut down the antenna right now. Let us know if you are getting it now. I no longer am!

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YardleyBill Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Yardley, PA Posts: 331	Yeah, I printed out this thread, and was all excited to see the new channel when I got home. Alas, it was not on. Soon.....

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E_One Member Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 101	I'm glad it isn't just me not getting the signal. I got ABC, CBS, NBC, FOX and PBS. If the signal there I assume that I don't have to rotate the antena. last night I rotate the antenna like crazy, but still can't get UPN. I'll try again this weekend for WB. I forgot who posted, but he mentioned that WB will unofficially on air this weekend. We'll see. Off topic - If UPN broadcast 76ers in HD, that would be great. Anyone know about this status? I heard that Comcast will install HD cameras in First Union Center. I hope that's not a rumor. I did not have comcast cable, so if UPN send the HD signal for the First Union Center, that would be awesome

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gradywhite Lover of RF Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gloucester County, NJ Posts: 24	Power WPSG-DT is currently running about 8kw. Signal will go on and off, due to a variety of projects related to tower and transmitter... They will be ready for 24/7 on 11/1

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JWhip AVS Special Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wayne, PA Posts: 3,446	8kw? d to pick that up. When I scanned early yesterday morning, I was able to pick it up. Was that only 8kw? If so, that added height really helps. Hope they will be on at their maximum rated power of 250kw on 11/1. BTW. Comcast HD is strictly a cable product. I seriously doubt that it will be on OTA for a few years, at least with the use of Comcast euipment.

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JWhip AVS Special Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wayne, PA Posts: 3,446	Fox will not be on this tower. They will be on another tower but much higher up and they will be at 1 megawatt. They should be up and running by the spring.

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JWhip AVS Special Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wayne, PA Posts: 3,446	Fox will be moving their position to another tower where channel 35 (analog) is presently. They will be at nearly 1000 feet whereas they are at about 500 feet at another location in Andorra. Once they install their new antenna in the fall and go to their new power level (once the FCC approves it, you will have no trouble getting them.

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LarryGMarrow Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Delaware County, PA Posts: 137	why can't we get any information on the status of WCAU? I can receive and maintain signals from every station except WCAU

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donecker Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: donecker@op.net Posts: 41	This is all good news! I picked up UPN by accident last week--what a nice surprise. The only station I can't get hipix to pick up now is PBS--weird.

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LarryGMarrow Member Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Delaware County, PA Posts: 137	i seem to have lost the upn signal (32.1) here in the philadelphia area. has it gone off the air?

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JWhip AVS Special Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wayne, PA Posts: 3,446	Yes. They tirned it off so that channel 17 could complete work on their antenna.

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MSmith Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hamilton, NJ Posts: 330	I went looking for these stations all weekend, and didn't find either. However, I'm in the fringe and only using an indoor antenna at the moment. I'm probably going to try an attic antenna soon.

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JWhip AVS Special Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wayne, PA Posts: 3,446	I was told that a fm antenna was being placed on the tower today so no 32-1 was on. If it rains tomorrow, there will be no work on the tower. They will turn it on tomorrow if that is the case.

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DarthJedi HD KNIGHT Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Wynnewood, PA Posts: 578	Don't forget to check channel 54 tonight. WB said they will turn their signal on at 9pm tonight. __________________ May HD be with you always DarthJedi XBOX LIVE: ForceFields

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Dan Bither Advanced Member Join Date: May 2000 Location: Wilmington DE USA Posts: 509	Cool! Just in time for Smallville.

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gradywhite Lover of RF Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Gloucester County, NJ Posts: 24	WPSG-DT 8.8kw into antenna effective output from antenna 107kw - but all that matters not, since they are running to dummy load until the other folks clear off tower. They might be back up in time for Enterprise - just get those people off the tower !!!

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JWhip AVS Special Member Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wayne, PA Posts: 3,446	Let us know if WB 17 is up and running and whether they will be staying on or just still testing!

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DarthJedi HD KNIGHT Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Wynnewood, PA Posts: 578	no WB yet __________________ May HD be with you always DarthJedi XBOX LIVE: ForceFields

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DarthJedi HD KNIGHT Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Wynnewood, PA Posts: 578	Everyone Please join me in calling the WB and let them know that you are not getting a signal. They are saying it is on and I am not getting it I live one mile form the tower with a clean shot. The number is 215 878-1700 press 3 for news, ask them to transfer you to engineering __________________ May HD be with you always DarthJedi XBOX LIVE: ForceFields