How to record via IEEE 1394 (Firewire) to Windows XP

coyoteaz · 05-27-09, 02:50 PM

Back when I had an SA box, if I had the HDMI plugged in but the TV off or on a different input, I would get a blocked messages on the other outputs. Just another fun caveat.

testr1234 · 05-27-09, 05:47 PM

So I can pretty much say that my experiment in Chesterfield County, VA with Comcast and attempting to record to PC via IEEE 1394 is over.

Today Comcast took my SA 3250HD and swapped it for a SA 4250HDC (w/ HDMI output)

I carefully went through an uninstall and re-install on my PC for the new SA box. CapDVHS still just gives me a blank data info tab when I press record.

So, Hauppauge HD PVR here I come as soon as I can stomach the extra expense.

Now, question, the HD PVR should work pretty reliably because it connects to the stb component out, right? (and isn't this considered the "loop-hole" because a cable company can't specifically tie copy protection to component out)

And last, my gut is telling me that trying the same IEEE 1394 experiment w/ Fios would also result in failure because of copy protection outlined on Exdeus' webpage.

bLKPANTHR · 05-28-09, 12:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testr1234

So I can pretty much say that my experiment in Chesterfield County, VA with Comcast and attempting to record to PC via IEEE 1394 is over.

Today Comcast took my SA 3250HD and swapped it for a SA 4250HDC (w/ HDMI output)

I carefully went through an uninstall and re-install on my PC for the new SA box. CapDVHS still just gives me a blank data info tab when I press record.

So, Hauppauge HD PVR here I come as soon as I can stomach the extra expense.

Now, question, the HD PVR should work pretty reliably because it connects to the stb component out, right? (and isn't this considered the "loop-hole" because a cable company can't specifically tie copy protection to component out)

And last, my gut is telling me that trying the same IEEE 1394 experiment w/ Fios would also result in failure because of copy protection outlined on Exdeus' webpage.

dont forget - the Hd-dvr is h.264 - there is no tuner device for it to integrate into VMC. Youll need something like DVBSBridge and a plug-in

coyoteaz · 05-28-09, 03:26 AM

It works natively with other applications like SageTV, but there are plenty of reports of pain and frustration with that. Seems that it's taken Hauppauge a year to get it to the level that you might actually want to use it.

testr1234 · 05-28-09, 11:12 AM

"dont forget - the Hd-dvr is h.264 - there is no tuner device for it to integrate into VMC. Youll need something like DVBSBridge and a plug-in"

I don't know what VMC is? Thanks for the reply, but I really hope that I don't actually need anything additional to do what the HD PVR claims it can do.

The product description says that it comes with the software to record HD from the set top box (h.264 up to 13 mbps). I just plan on using the simplest technique/software that works for recording a HD show from my HD stb.

I'm not concerned, (at least in the beginning), with integration to other products. If I make the connections, install the software it comes with, and can record HD programs from my STB, that is what I'm expecting.

I did order it last night, so it should be here in a few days. We'll see.

tyberco · 05-28-09, 03:28 PM

Once upon a time, I had a Motorola box that allowed firewire recording flawlessly. Comcast disabled that box and gave me an SA4250HD that doesn't work with firewire recording.

So I've followed this thread forever, hoping to see something new that would allow me to regain HD recording to Media Center (XP or Vista).

The Hauppauge HD DVR sounds great, but it seems it would require either an MCE plugin or switching to something like Sage. Correct?

Is there a thread for using the Hauppage HD DVR in MCE? Or can someone post some specifics on what is needed (and where to download) in order to get it working with MCE? Or is the included software comparable?

On a related subject, these forums are great, but I think it would be nice if someone could periodically post a current summary of what actually works (and links for getting everything). Having such a "sticky" note would spare us all from wondering through miles of text hoping to piece together a solution. And having a common solution would encourage a broader range of people to use and support a PC DVR solution.

Thanks for any help.

bLKPANTHR · 05-28-09, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyberco

Once upon a time, I had a Motorola box that allowed firewire recording flawlessly. Comcast disabled that box and gave me an SA4250HD that doesn't work with firewire recording.

So I've followed this thread forever, hoping to see something new that would allow me to regain HD recording to Media Center (XP or Vista).

The Hauppauge HD DVR sounds great, but it seems it would require either an MCE plugin or switching to something like Sage. Correct?

Is there a thread for using the Hauppage HD DVR in MCE? Or can someone post some specifics on what is needed (and where to download) in order to get it working with MCE? Or is the included software comparable?

On a related subject, these forums are great, but I think it would be nice if someone could periodically post a current summary of what actually works (and links for getting everything). Having such a "sticky" note would spare us all from wondering through miles of text hoping to piece together a solution. And having a common solution would encourage a broader range of people to use and support a PC DVR solution.

Thanks for any help.

There is no "plug-in" for MCE. there are some weird middle wear stuff that can trick MCE into thinking its a DVB-S device to get it into MCE. But this will only work with Vista with TV Pak or windows 7, as DVB-S support was not available prior to these. google SVBSBridge for info.

bLKPANTHR · 05-28-09, 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testr1234

"dont forget - the Hd-dvr is h.264 - there is no tuner device for it to integrate into VMC. Youll need something like DVBSBridge and a plug-in"

I don't know what VMC is? Thanks for the reply, but I really hope that I don't actually need anything additional to do what the HD PVR claims it can do.

The product description says that it comes with the software to record HD from the set top box (h.264 up to 13 mbps). I just plan on using the simplest technique/software that works for recording a HD show from my HD stb.

I'm not concerned, (at least in the beginning), with integration to other products. If I make the connections, install the software it comes with, and can record HD programs from my STB, that is what I'm expecting.

I did order it last night, so it should be here in a few days. We'll see.

VMC = Vista Media Center
7MC = Windows 7 Media Center
MCE = Windows XP Media Center Edition

Media Center integration is the holly grail of all this non-sense. If you are happy using the software scheduler included with the HD-DVR, cool.

testr1234 · 05-28-09, 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tyberco

Once upon a time, I had a Motorola box that allowed firewire recording flawlessly. Comcast disabled that box and gave me an SA4250HD that doesn't work with firewire recording.

So I've followed this thread forever, hoping to see something new that would allow me to regain HD recording to Media Center (XP or Vista).

The Hauppauge HD DVR sounds great, but it seems it would require either an MCE plugin or switching to something like Sage. Correct?

Is there a thread for using the Hauppage HD DVR in MCE? Or can someone post some specifics on what is needed (and where to download) in order to get it working with MCE? Or is the included software comparable?

On a related subject, these forums are great, but I think it would be nice if someone could periodically post a current summary of what actually works (and links for getting everything). Having such a "sticky" note would spare us all from wondering through miles of text hoping to piece together a solution. And having a common solution would encourage a broader range of people to use and support a PC DVR solution.

Thanks for any help.

I'm sorry you lost your firewire recording capability, but glad I'm not the only one who can't it to work w/ the SA 4250HD (mine actually is SA 4250HDC to be specific)

I'll find out when I get my HD PVR in a few days if my following hopes are accurate; but I'm not sure why anyone thinks that the Hauppauge HD PVR needs or requires anything additional to record HD from a STB. It comes with the software to record from the cable box and playback a recording to your pc. There are several demos and reviews on youtube.

testr1234 · 05-28-09, 04:27 PM

"VMC = Vista Media Center
7MC = Windows 7 Media Center
MCE = Windows XP Media Center Edition

Media Center integration is the holly grail of all this non-sense. If you are happy using the software scheduler included with the HD-DVR, cool."

Ahh, thank you; I was losing people with the above acronyms. From my perspective; I have been able to record over the air HD for a while now (I know, no big deal) But, I have never been able to do a HD recording from subscription cable. I will probably at some point aspire to more integration/organization/convenience. But, yes, I will be wide-eyed and amazed when I'm able to make my first HD recording from cable. Manuall recording, a scheduler, and IR blaster, will suffice for a while.

I probably didn't give Windows Media Center a fair chance, but when I just got my latest pc and did a recording from the media center and saw that it recorded to a proprietary format instead of .ts or .mpg; I was completely turned off. (I know you can later do file conversions; but what a pain!; it should go right to .ts or .mpg) I can't stand the feeling or perception of feeling like I'm navigating through restrictions and closed systems.

I went ahead and switched to Beyond TV. Of course Hauppauge says their PVR has some support for SageTV.

bLKPANTHR · 05-28-09, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by testr1234

"VMC = Vista Media Center
7MC = Windows 7 Media Center
MCE = Windows XP Media Center Edition

Media Center integration is the holly grail of all this non-sense. If you are happy using the software scheduler included with the HD-DVR, cool."

Ahh, thank you; I was losing people with the above acronyms. From my perspective; I have been able to record over the air HD for a while now (I know, no big deal) But, I have never been able to do a HD recording from subscription cable. I will probably at some point aspire to more integration/organization/convenience. But, yes, I will be wide-eyed and amazed when I'm able to make my first HD recording from cable. Manuall recording, a scheduler, and IR blaster, will suffice for a while.

I probably didn't give Windows Media Center a fair chance, but when I just got my latest pc and did a recording from the media center and saw that it recorded to a proprietary format instead of .ts or .mpg; I was completely turned off. (I know you can later do file conversions; but what a pain!; it should go right to .ts or .mpg) I can't stand the feeling or perception of feeling like I'm navigating through restrictions and closed systems.

I went ahead and switched to Beyond TV. Of course Hauppauge says their PVR has some support for SageTV.

Unfortunatly, TS and MPG contain no metadata, so u dont get any episode/actor/info in the files, the odd file formats is just MS implementation of a asf container format. The TS is simple to extract from the ms-dvr or wtv file for transport.

JediFonger · 05-29-09, 09:45 AM

but even the MS formats are still MPEG2. FYI.

bLKPANTHR · 05-29-09, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JediFonger

but even the MS formats are still MPEG2. FYI.

yup

sitlet · 05-31-09, 01:30 PM

hey guys, im having trouble getting videos off of my new Pace DVR. i used to have a motorola box and a winxp machine, and it worked flawlessly. now i have a pace box and a vista 32bit laptop.

i used the drivers on ExDues's page instead of the other drivers. everything seemed to install correctly, except the Pace Micro Technology TDC778X AV/C Panel. the inculded driver did not install for this. i dont know if this is my problem or not.

my problem is with capdvhs, i have all the settings correct, disabled UAC in vista, ran as administrator, changed the capture folder to a User folder to avoid vistas security problems. i keep getting an error or the program just crashes. when i get the error, nothing shows up in the data fields. if the program crashes however, i will see theh data fields full for a second, and the resulting file is about 400kb.

i have tried vlc, and am able to playback the video, but it is really jerky and stuttering. i blame this on directshow, as i have never had any good luck with it. i am also able to capture using vlc, but again it is too jerky to watch.

EDIT: i can record SD programs with capdvhs...well kind of. sometimes it will record for a minute, sometimes longer before it crashes. but the end result is it still crashes. and hd video is still out of the question. so it seems to me there is a problem with capdvhs on my vista basic machine. i have tried to find a different version but have been unable to

any help here? thanks

Mike99 · 05-31-09, 02:33 PM

I was thinking of getting an HTPC and one of its purposes would be to record from either a Comcast Motorola HD STB or HD DVR via Firewire. I do not subscribe to any premium movie channels. I had presumed that since I pay for Discovery HD for example, that I would be able to record it. That since it's unscrambled from the HDMI output that it would be unscrambled from the Firewire output. But after reading through some of the postings here I now have some doubts.

Bottom line is that while I may be able to record from Firewire, there is no guarantee. Is that correct?

johnb003 · 05-31-09, 02:54 PM

To me it sounds like the driver isn't producing a good stream from the device. It's not direct-show's fault it, the filter node the firestb driver produces that's failing for your device.

If you ask again in a few weeks I'll probably have my streaming driver done using the windows avcstrm which might work better for you than the meistb driver.

teague · 05-31-09, 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike99

I was thinking of getting an HTPC and one of its purposes would be to record from either a Comcast Motorola HD STB or HD DVR via Firewire. I do not subscribe to any premium movie channels. I had presumed that since I pay for Discovery HD for example, that I would be able to record it. That since it's unscrambled from the HDMI output that it would be unscrambled from the Firewire output. But after reading through some of the postings here I now have some doubts.

Bottom line is that while I may be able to record from Firewire, there is no guarantee. Is that correct?

This is true. Different cable companies scramble different sets of channels. I can't capture SpeedHD off firewire, but many of the other channels work fine.

Fonceur · 05-31-09, 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sitlet

EDIT: i can record SD programs with capdvhs...well kind of. sometimes it will record for a minute, sometimes longer before it crashes. but the end result is it still crashes.

You could try using GrafCorder or even just GraphEdit with a dump file filter. Since the stream is just dumped to a file, even if there are errors in it, they won't crash the recording. If needed, use videoredo's quickstream fix to clean up the recording...

sitlet · 06-14-09, 11:40 AM

yeah ive been trying that the past few days. doesnt crash anymore, but the resulting recordings are out of sync and pixelated every few seconds, just like what happens when i record with vlc. maybe my box is messed u? has anyone else gotten luck from a pace 778? i know the channels arent encrypted.

fred33 · 06-14-09, 12:38 PM

Is there anyone that has COX as a provider and has the 1394 IEEE enabled and working??

teague · 06-14-09, 08:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fred33

Is there anyone that has COX as a provider and has the 1394 IEEE enabled and working??

Yes, Cox is my provider, and I'm capturing shows through the firewire output o n the Motorola DVR.

coyoteaz · 06-14-09, 09:11 PM

The Motorola boxes used in OC usually work, but the SA boxes used in Las Vegas and elsewhere usually don't.

kuntaldaftary · 06-15-09, 04:41 AM

Motorola DCT-3412, Vista, VLC 1rc3 - always get choppy audio for HD content when viewing live. non-HD content with stereo audio plays fine. Changed VLC Audio output to SPDIF, stereo and 5.1 for HD content and both play equally bad.

Same when recorded using capdvhs plays fine.

Anyone has gotten vlc live view to work properly without any audio problems with HD content using Motorola DCT-3412 ?

bwer · 06-16-09, 08:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kuntaldaftary

Motorola DCT-3412, Vista, VLC 1rc3 - always get choppy audio for HD content when viewing live. non-HD content with stereo audio plays fine. Changed VLC Audio output to SPDIF, stereo and 5.1 for HD content and both play equally bad.

Same when recorded using capdvhs plays fine.

Anyone has gotten vlc live view to work properly without any audio problems with HD content using Motorola DCT-3412 ?

Are you recording at the same time? I get those kind of problems with it while recording and viewing simultaneously. VLC recording never did work for me, so I went to CapDVHS exclusively.

kuntaldaftary · 06-16-09, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bwer

Are you recording at the same time? I get those kind of problems with it while recording and viewing simultaneously. VLC recording never did work for me, so I went to CapDVHS exclusively.

Hi bwer, thanks for responding.

No, I am not recording at the same time, just viewing. Stereo audio seems to work fine with SD content and with 1080i content. 5.1 or SPDIF audio is choppy with 1080i. All audio (stereo, 5.1 or SPDIF) is choppy with 720p.

Yeah CapDVHS works fine (thankfully!) - I was hoping that VLC would work so that I dont need yet another program.

bwer · 06-16-09, 09:28 PM

Sorry I can't be more helpful directly...

What kind of CPU and graphics do you have? HD speed (and interface), memory? It very well could be a computer horsepower problem, but I doubt it. I'm using XP, I don't know if Vista acts different.

Since CapDVHS seems to work fine for you, I don't think it's your firewire interface.

It's too bad this is all a nasty kludge, and there aren't more polished applications for this stuff. Then again, if it was more well known, the 5C hammer might be dropped on more content.

Gary Murrell · 06-17-09, 07:26 PM

wondering if I could get a little help here:

Moto DCH6416-firewire is active in diagnostic/xmission active/5C is off and copy free for the channel is listed
Windows XP SP3
Belkin Firewire card
6 pin to 6 pin firewire cable
drivers installed from this thread(panel and unknown device disabled)

CAPDVHS is giving me no data info and the .ts files are blank

any tips are appreciated

thanks

-Gary

bwer · 06-17-09, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Murrell

wondering if I could get a little help here:

Moto DCH6416-firewire is active in diagnostic/xmission active/5C is off and copy free for the channel is listed
Windows XP SP3
Belkin Firewire card
6 pin to 6 pin firewire cable
drivers installed from this thread(panel and unknown device disabled)

CAPDVHS is giving me no data info and the .ts files are blank

any tips are appreciated

thanks

-Gary

Do other channels produce valid Transport Streams? Have you tried streaming the channels live on VLC? Or perhaps recording the channel on the DVR then playing it back and trying to record it on CapDVHS?

I have a few channels that act wonky with CapDVHS live, that work fine when played back through the DVR, stuff that is listed as 5C Copy Free. Other channels seem to be 5C'd based on a per-show basis, or at weird times of the day. Sometimes this stuff just doesn't want to work.

Gary Murrell · 06-17-09, 07:47 PM

I checked my CCI and DRM and it is 0x02 and 0x00 on all channels

this be bad correct?

edit/update: just checked NBC-HD, its CCI is 0x00/DRM is 0x00 and it records fine in CAPDVHS

-Gary

bwer · 06-17-09, 07:57 PM

That does sound like your cableco is blanket-prohibiting everything but locals, yeah.

There is a legitimate (in terms of the specs) way for it to be showing as 5C Copy Freely but not working with the computer. The cable box could require a 5C encryption key exchange/handshake, but not be encrypting the content. I'm not sure how that shows up in the Motorola boxes' diag menus.

If that's the case, it may or may not be possible to record to a D-VHS and then output from the D-VHS to the computer. I haven't tried it (My 40K hasn't arrived yet), though.

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testr1234 Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 15	"VMC = Vista Media Center 7MC = Windows 7 Media Center MCE = Windows XP Media Center Edition Media Center integration is the holly grail of all this non-sense. If you are happy using the software scheduler included with the HD-DVR, cool." Ahh, thank you; I was losing people with the above acronyms. From my perspective; I have been able to record over the air HD for a while now (I know, no big deal) But, I have never been able to do a HD recording from subscription cable. I will probably at some point aspire to more integration/organization/convenience. But, yes, I will be wide-eyed and amazed when I'm able to make my first HD recording from cable. Manuall recording, a scheduler, and IR blaster, will suffice for a while. I probably didn't give Windows Media Center a fair chance, but when I just got my latest pc and did a recording from the media center and saw that it recorded to a proprietary format instead of .ts or .mpg; I was completely turned off. (I know you can later do file conversions; but what a pain!; it should go right to .ts or .mpg) I can't stand the feeling or perception of feeling like I'm navigating through restrictions and closed systems. I went ahead and switched to Beyond TV. Of course Hauppauge says their PVR has some support for SageTV.

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testr1234 Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 15	So I can pretty much say that my experiment in Chesterfield County, VA with Comcast and attempting to record to PC via IEEE 1394 is over. Today Comcast took my SA 3250HD and swapped it for a SA 4250HDC (w/ HDMI output) I carefully went through an uninstall and re-install on my PC for the new SA box. CapDVHS still just gives me a blank data info tab when I press record. So, Hauppauge HD PVR here I come as soon as I can stomach the extra expense. Now, question, the HD PVR should work pretty reliably because it connects to the stb component out, right? (and isn't this considered the "loop-hole" because a cable company can't specifically tie copy protection to component out) And last, my gut is telling me that trying the same IEEE 1394 experiment w/ Fios would also result in failure because of copy protection outlined on Exdeus' webpage.

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sitlet Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 338	hey guys, im having trouble getting videos off of my new Pace DVR. i used to have a motorola box and a winxp machine, and it worked flawlessly. now i have a pace box and a vista 32bit laptop. i used the drivers on ExDues's page instead of the other drivers. everything seemed to install correctly, except the Pace Micro Technology TDC778X AV/C Panel. the inculded driver did not install for this. i dont know if this is my problem or not. my problem is with capdvhs, i have all the settings correct, disabled UAC in vista, ran as administrator, changed the capture folder to a User folder to avoid vistas security problems. i keep getting an error or the program just crashes. when i get the error, nothing shows up in the data fields. if the program crashes however, i will see theh data fields full for a second, and the resulting file is about 400kb. i have tried vlc, and am able to playback the video, but it is really jerky and stuttering. i blame this on directshow, as i have never had any good luck with it. i am also able to capture using vlc, but again it is too jerky to watch. EDIT: i can record SD programs with capdvhs...well kind of. sometimes it will record for a minute, sometimes longer before it crashes. but the end result is it still crashes. and hd video is still out of the question. so it seems to me there is a problem with capdvhs on my vista basic machine. i have tried to find a different version but have been unable to any help here? thanks Last edited by sitlet; 05-31-09 at 02:54 PM.. Reason: additions

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Mike99 AVS Special Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Midwest Posts: 1,479	I was thinking of getting an HTPC and one of its purposes would be to record from either a Comcast Motorola HD STB or HD DVR via Firewire. I do not subscribe to any premium movie channels. I had presumed that since I pay for Discovery HD for example, that I would be able to record it. That since it's unscrambled from the HDMI output that it would be unscrambled from the Firewire output. But after reading through some of the postings here I now have some doubts. Bottom line is that while I may be able to record from Firewire, there is no guarantee. Is that correct?

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johnb003 Member Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 44	To me it sounds like the driver isn't producing a good stream from the device. It's not direct-show's fault it, the filter node the firestb driver produces that's failing for your device. If you ask again in a few weeks I'll probably have my streaming driver done using the windows avcstrm which might work better for you than the meistb driver.

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sitlet Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 338	yeah ive been trying that the past few days. doesnt crash anymore, but the resulting recordings are out of sync and pixelated every few seconds, just like what happens when i record with vlc. maybe my box is messed u? has anyone else gotten luck from a pace 778? i know the channels arent encrypted.

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coyoteaz AVS Special Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: DFW Posts: 2,965	The Motorola boxes used in OC usually work, but the SA boxes used in Las Vegas and elsewhere usually don't.

06-15-09, 04:41 AM	#5063 \| Link
kuntaldaftary Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 139	Motorola DCT-3412, Vista, VLC 1rc3 - always get choppy audio for HD content when viewing live. non-HD content with stereo audio plays fine. Changed VLC Audio output to SPDIF, stereo and 5.1 for HD content and both play equally bad. Same when recorded using capdvhs plays fine. Anyone has gotten vlc live view to work properly without any audio problems with HD content using Motorola DCT-3412 ? __________________ -Kuntal

06-16-09, 09:28 PM	#5066 \| Link
bwer Tape is dead? Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 136	Sorry I can't be more helpful directly... What kind of CPU and graphics do you have? HD speed (and interface), memory? It very well could be a computer horsepower problem, but I doubt it. I'm using XP, I don't know if Vista acts different. Since CapDVHS seems to work fine for you, I don't think it's your firewire interface. It's too bad this is all a nasty kludge, and there aren't more polished applications for this stuff. Then again, if it was more well known, the 5C hammer might be dropped on more content. Last edited by bwer; 06-16-09 at 09:34 PM..

06-17-09, 07:26 PM	#5067 \| Link
Gary Murrell Yngwie's Biggest Fan Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 10,800 Classified Rating: 100% (1)	wondering if I could get a little help here: Moto DCH6416-firewire is active in diagnostic/xmission active/5C is off and copy free for the channel is listed Windows XP SP3 Belkin Firewire card 6 pin to 6 pin firewire cable drivers installed from this thread(panel and unknown device disabled) CAPDVHS is giving me no data info and the .ts files are blank any tips are appreciated thanks -Gary __________________ Gary's HT/Review System

06-17-09, 07:47 PM	#5069 \| Link
Gary Murrell Yngwie's Biggest Fan Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 10,800 Classified Rating: 100% (1)	I checked my CCI and DRM and it is 0x02 and 0x00 on all channels this be bad correct? edit/update: just checked NBC-HD, its CCI is 0x00/DRM is 0x00 and it records fine in CAPDVHS -Gary __________________ Gary's HT/Review System

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bwer Tape is dead? Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 136	That does sound like your cableco is blanket-prohibiting everything but locals, yeah. There is a legitimate (in terms of the specs) way for it to be showing as 5C Copy Freely but not working with the computer. The cable box could require a 5C encryption key exchange/handshake, but not be encrypting the content. I'm not sure how that shows up in the Motorola boxes' diag menus. If that's the case, it may or may not be possible to record to a D-VHS and then output from the D-VHS to the computer. I haven't tried it (My 40K hasn't arrived yet), though.