New JVC DVHS Decks ( HM-DH5U and HM-DT100 ) Discussion

[robena]

Here is the Japanese version of the new JVC deck.

The tape loading is on the left rather than centered, so it's obviously a brand new mechanism. Maybe JVC has been able to eliminate the 30Ks/40Ks dropouts problem.

[jimwhite]

could be that the transport was moved off center...... the transport isn't that big !!!

[Chris Gerhard]

When VCR manufacturers all went to the center tape load design, I read it was for technical advantages. Although I read the reasons, I wasn't convinced that there was any real advantage and don't even recall the theory. It is surprising to see a left hand tape load design again.

At least JVC is trying to improve on their less than stellar reliability with previous D-VHS decks.

Chris

[CKNA]

We do not for sure know how US decks will look. What was shown at 2004 CES looked very similar to 40K. Nothing can be assumed when it comes to JVC.

[robena]

The Victor HM-DHX1 has exactly the same look as the US 40K, so it's logical that the HM-DHX2, with its HDMI output, will be similar the future US model.

It's not a certainty though...

[ktoolsie]

So when are these things going to street? I'm waiting patiently for the 5-U. The only good news is that until my local Comcast upgrade the firmware on their Motorola 6208 boxes, my need for a D-VHS machine is not urgent.

Kurt

[alk3997]

Here is the fish translation for the Korean page listed above. It is a classic (and a gaudy thing)!

Actually the reason I'm appending is that right at the end there is a mention of the new JVC U.S. models.

"If once design, from the DHX1 (40000 series) it sees far high class be it seems. Function the point which is added is not is not many so and it will be able to expect a sickle cryptogamic quality and a sound quality with adoption of the HDMI which is a new generation interface little more it appears. "

"Also the IEEE1394 gearing with the cam is coming out with the hazard whole surface. Also as much as 525 i sources of general broadcasting or the VHS/S-VHS back, pro yes by a sheave circuit 525p with the output is possible with one feature."

"Attitude it sees with the DHX1 differently LCD addition reel mouth remaking condition (HS mode, Channel, remaking hour) the possibility of seeing the back in look in order to be, indication it does as a favor. It was a too much inconvenient point from the DHX1. 3 image outputs (khem it ladles and it spreads out and thu, the HDMI and the D terminal) the output possibility is viscosity is important in this same time. Case of the DHX1 only the AAC 2.0 decoder becomes loading but and 5.1 case direct confrontations are not but Uss even place DHX2 the AAC 5.1 decoder should not have been included with sameness, the bedspread where the confirmation is difficult still."

"The cancer with the HM-DH5U/ DT100U where also the come into the market which sprouts is the North America model almost simultaneously it will be a come into the market and it will hang and to see the North America model the design will be same and it will hang with it is visible. The D-VHS the VCR the minutes when it will purchase the gaudy thing wait and short time they are same."

[jsaliga]

It has a sort of retro look to my eyes. Maybe the next model after this one will be a two piece top loader like the old Hitachi VHS decks of the mid 1980s.

--Jerome

[djdrock]

And just for fun...here is a jive translation of the Korean translation...

If once design, fum de DHX1 (40000 series) it sees far high class be it seems. Funcshun de point which be added be not be not many so's and it gots'ta be able t''spect some sickle cryptogamic quality and some sound quality wid adopshun uh de HDMI which be a new generashun interface little mo'e it appears. " "Also de IEEE1394 gearin' wid de cam be comin' out wid de hazard whole surface. Also as much as 525 ah' sources uh general broadcastin' o' de VHS/S-VHS back, pro yeah man by some sheave circuit 525p wid de output be possible wid one feature." "Attitude it sees wid de DHX1 differently LCD addishun reel moud remakin' condishun (HS mode, Channel, remakin' hour) de possibility uh seein' de back in look in o'da' to be, indicashun it duz as some favo'. It wuz some too much inconvenient point fum de DHX1. 3 image outputs (khem it ladles and it spreads out and du, de HDMI and da damn D terminal) de output possibility be viscosity be impo'tant in dis same time. Case uh de DHX1 only de AAC 2.0 decoda' becomes loadin' but and 5.1 case direct confrontashuns is not but Uss even place DHX2 de AAC 5.1 decoda' should not gots been included wid sameness, de bedspread where da damn confirmashun be difficult still." "De kinca' wid de HM-DH5U/ DT100U where also de mosey on down into de market which sprouts be de No'd America model mos' simultaneously it gots'ta be some come into de market and it gots'ta hang and t'see da damn No'd America model de design gots'ta be same and it gots'ta hang wid it be visible. De D-VHS de VCR de minutes when it gots'ta purchase da damn gaudy doodad wait and sho't time dey is same."

[robena]

Originally posted by ktoolsie
So when are these things going to street?

The Japanese model has been announced for beginning of August.

The US model should be available at the same time.

[Matt_Stevens]

Well, I have a Mits 2000, a 30K and a 40K. But I am very much liking the idea of sending D-Theater and any HD from D-VHS to my Projector via DVI. But there is no way in hell I am buying this thing out the gate. I'll wait for the price to drop, as I did with the 40K (paid under $500 brand new, with an extended warranty) and I must also be sure that it's not another badly designed, cheaply built machine. Two of those in my rack is enough.

[DaveFi]

I'll let you guys test it for me.

[ktoolsie]

Well if one has a TV/projector with DVI or HDMi but no firewire connection and one wishes to archive HDTV material from some like a Motorola 6200/6208 then the JVC decks are the only single-box solution. The alternative is a Mits D_VHS deck coupled to something like a samsung 165, but the samsung box alone costs about as much as a new JVC deck.

So if I can get one of these (5-U) for about $600 I'll jump on it.

After all, it can't be worse than a 30000/40000, right?

Kurt

[anthonymoody]

Let me know how the beta goes guys

TM

[HDTVFanAtic]

I just saw the information on the Sony KV-34XBR960 which is replacing the KV-34XBR910 34 inch 16:9 HDTV that came out last Fall.

It retails for about 10% less, adds cable card, firewire and a ATSC Tuner.

With that said, I still find something very wrong with the more expensive JVC D-VHS costing an additional $500 (or almost 100% more) for the addition of only a ATSC tuner.

It seems there has to be something else in there for that price.

[bfdtv]

Wasn't there supposed to be two new JVC deck models, one with an ATSC tuner and one without?

[madpoet]

That's what these are...

[JimP]

Does anyone know what the US street price is likely to be on these models??

I've been following the price of the JVC DH40K. It looks like PC Mall and MacMall have followed ecost to the $449 price.

Evidently this is in anticipation of the new models. The obvious question would be "is the new model worth the price difference?"

[madpoet]

I've seen it pre-advertisied for $599 online... expected arrival date of mid-July.

[archiguy]

Originally posted by HDTVFanAtic
I just saw the information on the Sony KV-34XBR960 which is replacing the KV-34XBR910 34 inch 16:9 HDTV that came out last Fall.

It retails for about 10% less, adds cable card, firewire and a ATSC Tuner.

Figures, since I bought my 34" XBR910 last fall, thinking it was so advanced it wouldn't be obsolete for a few years at least. Who knew? Anybody want to buy a slightly used (just broken in!) 910?

Dang, sometimes I hate this insatiable hobby!

[dillon2]

I called the national headquarters of JVC and asked when these decks would be released. The office that is supposed to provide information on new product releases had no information on the HM Dt100U or the DH5U. In fact the rep indicated that he had no knowledge that any new D-VHS deck would be released this year.

[Rich4av]

Sometimes/Often, customer service people are the last to know so they don't leak out information early.

[madpoet]

Very true. Like I said, everything I hear from the retailers in mid-July. But who knows...

[CKNA]

I am so sick of people calling customer service for these companies. Please stop! These people never know anything. Most of them handle calls for multiple companies.

If there is any info on any product, it will be posted on AVSforum as soon as it is available.

[foxfan]

Will there be a D-VHS deck with Cablecard? This would be useful if I want to tape one thing and watch another at the same time.

[dillon2]

“I am so sick of people calling customer service for these companies. Please stop! These people never know anything. Most of them handle calls for multiple companies.

If there is any info on any product, it will be posted on AVSforum as soon as it is available.”


I am surprised that my offer of information – despite what one may think about its reliability – would provoke such hostility. Just for the record I called JVC out of desperation. I need to make a purchase by the middle of July. I am trying to obtain specific information about the release date of these decks and have not been able to find it anywhere – even here at AVS.

I called all of the local brick and mortar stores in Sacramento but their reps knew nothing about the existence much less the availability of new D-VHS decks from JVC. I was not surprised by their ignorance because of the horror stories that appear here and from regularly dealing with sales/consumer representatives. I have one contact at JVC in the professional division and e-mailed him on the off-chance that he might know something. He didn’t know what might be coming but he gave me the phone number of an office that in his words “usually” knows about new product releases.

I passed on what I was told because the rep I called was not the first rung of the consumer information ladder. Moreover, he made noises about how “he should know” if something new was in the works. I fully expect that he was poorly informed but I thought it might be worthwhile to post. I now know that the prevailing norm on this forum at least in the view of some contributors is when in doubt keep your mouth shut.

[JimP]

dillon

Sometimes, you just have to ignore some of these post. We all have bad days.

[Troy LaMont]

It looks like both the component and HDMI outputs will be active at the same time...hmm.

Simultaneous output of the hi-vision image signal is possible from three output terminals. For example when the projector is added to the hi-vision television even, connecting simultaneously, it can enjoy.

Troy

[dwk]

Originally posted by dillon2
“

I am surprised that my offer of information – despite what one may think about its reliability – would provoke such hostility.

Unearned

Stick with us. We like people that take the initiative to research.
Even if we get steered wrong, the value is in knowing if we are ALL getting steered wrong! Sometimes any info is better than no info.

Hang in there, and keep up the quest!!

[DSperber]

I'm glad to see from the JPG that they's restored the basic display functions to the front panel of the unit. I assume the OSD is also still available since the remote looks very much like it has similar buttons to the one which comes with the 40K.