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Oppo DV971H FAQ / Brain Dump
Oppo DV971H FAQ / Brain Dump
Welcome to the thread! The Oppo Digital DV971H has been one of the more exciting players to appear recently. Combining solid hardware choices with nicely implemented firmware, the DV971H is a top ranked inexpensive player with great disc handling ability and excellent picture quality. Oppo Digital's customer support is amongst the best -- combine that with a responsive development team and the DV971H is a player that is getting better and better. Please note the reported results do change with the firmware. Because of this, the first post is always a work "in progress". Contents: ------------
DV971H Selected as one of the Best of 2005 by Secrets of Home Theater Secrets "Best of 2005" DV971H Scores 98 on Secrets of Home Theater Benchmark Secrets of Home Theater DV971H review NEW VERSION (3rd style) REMOTE: Click on http://www.oppodigital.com Click on "Buy Now" That action will present the page on how to obtain the revised, new-style remote. Click on the remote picture for a larger view. Ergonomically, it's the best remote yet for the DV971H. The "glow-in-the-dark" buttons have returned. It uses AAA batteries. It is compatible with the second version of the remote codes and the latest firmware. FIRMWARE: The firmware is cumulative -- it contains all prior fixes. MVer: 05.00.01.07 Batch: 11-0830 Release Date: September 21, 2006 This release addresses a rare occurrence of no center audio channel output through the 5.1ch analog audio output. It also includes all the following new features and improvements from the 10-0720 major release version: 1. Improved handling of "forced subtitle" for DVD discs This version improves the handling of "forced subtitle" for DVD discs. For certain DVD discs that contains foreign "forced subtitle" tracks, foreign subtitle text will no longer erratically appear when there is english text in the picture. Additionally, when the dialog is in a foreign language and the DVD disc contains a corresponding English "forced subtitle" track, English subtitle will automatically show. 2. Improved disc compatibility This version resolves the playback problem with certain Sony DVD discs that contains a "Commentary Disclaimer" screen. It also improves compatibility with DVD-Video disc recorded using older version of Nero Burning ROM program. 3. Improved audio/video synchronization (previously included in the F-0316 beta firmware) This version of firmware reduces the time difference between audio and video outputs. Due to the time required to decode and process the audio and video contents encoded on a DVD disc, there is usually a time difference between the audio and video outputs. In previous firmware versions the time difference could be large enough to cause noticeable "lip sync" problems under certain circumstances. In this version the time difference is reduced. This version also reduced the variation of A/V synchronization caused by playback control operations such as pausing, repeating, chapter skipping and accessing the setup menu. Special thanks to Gary Bosman for his contribution to this improvement. 4. Eliminated Chroma Up-sampling Error (CUE) for component output Chroma Up-sampling Error is a problem that could happen when the reduced resolution Chroma data (color information) on the DVD discs are up-sampled to create full resolution color image. When it happens, edges, especially diagonal edges of saturated color will have a "staircase" or "mini-blind" effect. The OPDV971H does not have CUE with its DVI output. This version eliminates CUE on its component output. 5. Improved resume play function This function works for DVD-Video discs only. To save a playback position so that you can resume later, press the "EJECT" button on the remote while the video is playing. The player will show "Saving Breakpoint…" on screen and eject the disc tray. Next time when the same DVD disc is loaded into the player, it will automatically resume from the saved playback position. You may cancel this automatic resume playback and start play from the beginning by pressing the "STOP" button on the remote control. The memory function can remember 1 breakpoint only. Any new "EJECT" operation will overwrite the previous breakpoint with a new one. 6. Improved DivX video playback functions This version of firmware properly supports DivX video files larger than 2GB. Fast forward and reverse speed are improved. It also improved compatibility with DivX video files that contains incomplete or corrupted index. With previous firmware version, these files may not play completely. With this firmware version the player will try to play the entire program despite the missing or corrupted index. However fast forwarding or reverse may not work in this case. For DivX files with associated text subtitles, the font size of the subtitle can be adjusted using the DVD player's setup menu. 7. Output resolution display When the "DVI" button on the remote control is pressed, the current DVI output resolution will be displayed on the screen as well as the on the player's front panel. To actually switch the output resolution, stop playback so the OPPO logo screen is shown. Press the "DVI" button once to display the current resolution. Press it again to switch to the next available output resolution. The new resolution will also be displayed on both the screen and front panel. 8. Enhanced front panel dimmer control The "Light Control" setup menu option has been expanded to support 4 modes: On - Both the Vacuum Fluorescent Display (VFD) window and the button LED lights are on. LED Off - Button LED lights are turned off; VFD window is on. Dim - Button LED lights are turned off; VFD window is at reduced brightness. All Off - All front panel lights and displays are turned off. This setting resumes back to "On" after the player is turned off to avoid user confusion. 9. Skip function for digital music files When playing digital music files, the "Skip Prev" (|<<) and "Skip Next" (>>|) buttons on the remote control can be used to skip to the the previous or next track. This function enables the user to skip tracks without using the navigation menu on the video screen. When playback is stopped, these buttons can still be used to turn pages for the the on screen navigation menu, just like with the previous firmware version. Located Here:Oppo 0830 firmware MVer: 05.00.01.07 Batch: F-0302 Release Date: March 15, 2006 Summary of Changes in This Release: Rolled back the improvement to audio/video synchronization of F-0220 release due to side effects to DivX/MPEG-2 playback and picture quality. Previous fixes are included. Located here:Oppo 0302 firmware 05.00.01.07 Batch: F-0220 Release Date: February 27, 2006 Summary of Changes in This Release:
Playback of some DivX/MPEG-2 files may not be smooth but appear "choppy". OPPO Digital is working on improvement to this issue. If you primarily use the player to watch DivX/MPEG-2 contents, please do not upgrade to this firmware version. Located here: Oppo 0220 firmware If suffering from "choppy" video, look here for temporary beta firmware (does not contain all updates): Oppo 0228 beta firmware for "choppy" video" Also new is the updated user's manual: Updated DV-971H manual Version: OP971-1111B Release Date: November 22, 2005 *For "Black" and "3rd style" remote users at the present time* The firmware level has been reported to cause a shift in image with certain displays, if this problem occurs revert to firmware 1022 to resolve. Summary of changes in this release:
Version: OP971-D-1022 Release Date: October 25, 2005 Summary of changes in this release:
Version: OP971-8-0628 Release Date: June 29, 2005 This firmware release addressed the following:
Located here: 0628 Oppo Firmware MANUAL/TIPS/FAQ: Oppo Digital's DV971H Manual Oppo Digital's DV971H manual .pdf Oppo Digital's DV971H FAQ page: Oppo Digital's DV971H FAQ Quick Settings Guide for the DV-971H (includes new 2005 settings) Oppo DV-971H settings guide Inaccessable Settings Certain settings are not accessible while a disc is playing or loaded. In this case, eject the disc to access the settings. Settings affected: DVD-Audio Video Mode DivX(R) VOD Preference Page (The far right box) DVI output resoluton Twelve steps to update the firmware:
DV971H SETTINGS: Default settings are utilzed, for the most part. Some suggestions:
DIRECT PLAY: To skip over the majority of warnings, promos, etc: As soon as the DVD will allow:
CHECK FIRMWARE VERSION Check Firmware Version (available with firmware 1022 and later):
The latest shipment of units are not region free. To change to region free mode do this:
Use a DVI/HDMI adapter or adapter cable. Audio is not transmitted over DVI. Should be no compatibility issues (I use a DVI/HDMI cable presently). TOONCES T. CAT'S DUAL LAYER BURN: Yes, I now have great success with +R DL burns on the OPPO. For me, the key was in getting two very specific things right:
-Toonces DEFECT/WISH LIST: 04/24/2006, in approximate order of severity: The remaining issues are relatively minor. Aside from the macroblock enhance that may affect your display when playing badly encoded disks, the picture over DVI is spectacular. This is a very impressive player for the price. CURRENT DEFECTS:
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Comments welcome. Please bear in mind that Oppo Digital is doing a tremendous job of addressing firmware defects (and reasonable requests) from fussy consumers like us. If your issue is listed here, don't badger Oppo with calls or complaints - they will be fixed in due course. REVIEW/TEST RESULTS: Keep in mind that the display can introduce its own artifacts. It will be noted if it is thought the display is contributing to any anomaly. Basically, this is a rundown of the DVE video test patterns with certain tests from Avia included. The first description notes the test and expected results. Beneath that are the actual tested results, in italics. Let me know what you think of this format. EQUIPMENT: Display: Panasonic TC-22LH1, Hitachi 32HDT55, Dell W1900, Sharp LC-26D7U Cable: Monster DVI-HDMI, Samsung DVI, Dell-supplied DVI Discs: DVE, Avia Other: 6500K florescent light REVIEW (DVI & Component): Physical: I think the Oppo is an attractive looking player -- I really like the understated styling and brushed metal accent on the front panel. The player is solid feeling. While the tray is thin and flexes, it appears to be tough. Solid metal on five sides. The disc door opens quietly. The discs spin smoothly and there seems to be no unusual vibrations. The RCA connectors are gold plated. Four foot pads with simulated "feet" in front. The remote is decent and much nicer than the Momitsu V880 -- larger buttons and better "feel". The buttons glow-in-the-dark. Uses two AAA batteries. Beginning 11/28/2005 a new style remote is being shipped. This remove is a huge leap in quality over the previous two versions. Great ergonomics, more solid "feel", nice balance. The glow-in-the-dark buttons have returned. Operation: Fast, secure, disc handling. Skipping tracks and general navigation is a joy. As with other MediaTek players, layer change is lightning fast. The Panasonic S97 has a lot more configuration items, no doubt about it, however the simplicity of the Oppo has its appeal as well. No HDCP issues as there isn't any HDCP! The "zoom" feature, works much like the Terapin TT-1800 with both anamorphic zoom and reduction. The quality of the zoom is not quite in the leauge of the Momitsu V880, but the picture looks fair. DVI was enabled "out of the box". With component there is only 480i available. Did not find any means to configure for 480p component. I would urge Oppo to enable 480p component (and pass BTB at component) as the MediaTek does a good job of deinterlacing. The picture controls do not operate at 480i so contrast and brighness are not adjustable at that resolution. A built in DTS decoder is available w/latest firmware. One disc lockup with DVE noted when testing 480i when trying to access top menu. Picture: The Oppo player has a *lot* of detail. Beginning with the 4/13/2005 update, the picture controls work properly with "center" being a good (if not optimum) starting point. With these settings, color, tint, BTB, grayscale all looked correct and verified via DVE, filters, and 6500K reference. Good motion characteristics -- as expected with Faroudja. Pans looked smooth. With firmware 6/28/2005 and later there are no edge enhancement issues. Macroblock enhance is noted in some dim scenes. Some light random blocks of color tint noted with black and white material. Individual results may vary, but after lenghty viewing I think the Oppo may be doing a slightly better job than the S97. In many ways, the picture of this player reminds me of the 'S97 -- not real surprising given the Faroudja processing. Macroblock enhance aside, I would say the picture is vastly better than the V880. The Oppo does not exhibit the "green depression" noted with the Sony '975. No odd grayscale tinting noted. Component is a bit disappointing, no 480p, and 480i did not pass BTB. DVD COMPATIBILITY (if listed, it's "OK"):
PAL : (region free) NTSC: (region free) CONNECTION COMPATIBILITY: DVI: Digital only. DVI->VGA adatper will not work. HDCP not present. Component: Will not upconvert via component / not progresssive via component 480i via DVI : No - only 480p, 720p, 1080i VIDEO PERFORMANCE: 1080i : HDMI w/Panasonic TC-22LH1, Sharp LC-26D7U 720p : DVI w/Hitachi 32HDT55, Dell W1900, Sharp LC-26D7U 480i : Component w/Panasonic TC-22LH1 SUMMARY: Blacker than Black : 1080i : Passes BTB 720p : Passes BTB 480i : Does not plass BTB Whiter than White : 1080i : Passes WTW 720p : Passes WTW 480i : Possibly (need to recheck) Macroblock enhance : 1080i : Present, visible, no better/worse than other players 720p : Present, visible, no better/worse than other players 480i : no (no Faroudja processing) Chroma Upsampling Error : 1080i : no 720p : no 480i : no Subtitle Sync : 1080i : Good, some occasional combing noted 720p : Good, some occasional combing noted 480i : Excellent Bad Edit : 1080i : OK 720p : OK 480i : OK Layer Change : 1080i : *Blink* of an eye 720p : *Blink* of an eye 480i : *Blink* of an eye Motion Adaptive Deinterlacer : 1080i : Yes 720p : Yes 480i : N/A Frame/Field pause : 1080i : Field 720p : Field 480i : N/A 4:3 display on 16:9 (aka "pillarbox"): 1080i: Yes (with a slight penalty of reduction in resolution) 720p: Yes (with a slight penalty of reduction in resolution) 480i: No DVE TEST PATTERN RESULTS (DVI @ 720p and Component @ 480i): 12 - Video Test Signals, Display Setup Patterns 12.2 - DVD PLUGE w/Gray Scale - Check for BTB, uniform color w/6500k ref, uniform geometry 720p : BTB OK, gray OK, geometry OK 480i : No BTB, gray OK, geometery OK 12.3 - DVD PLUGE w/White - check for BTB, change in BTB bars, uniform geometry 720p : BTB OK, gray OK, geometry OK 480i : No BTB, gray OK, geometry OK 12.4 - Needle Pulse - mostly for CRT. Ensure vertical line does not bend (lower white level if line bends) 720p : No problem noted 480i : No problem noted 12.5 - DVD PLUGE w/Gray & Bars - "catch all": check for BTB, black/white crush,color w/gray reference 720p : BTB OK, no black/white crush, color OK 480i : No BTB, no black/white crush, slight dip in blue, colors slightly skewed 12.6 - Color Bars w/Gray Reference - color check w/filter: red based colors the same, green based colors the same, blue based colors the same 720p : Color Bars OK. No "green depression". 480i : Color Bars, slight dip in blue, slightly skewed. No "green depression". 12.7 - Split Bars w/Gray & DVD PLUGE - "catch all": check for BTB, black/white crush, split bars 720p : BTB OK, no black white crush, color bars OK 480i : No BTB, no black white crush, color bars, slight dip in blue, colors slightly skewed 12.8 - Combination - "catch all": check for BTB, color, Y/C delay, luminance sweeps 720p : BTB OK, color OK, some Y/C delay noted, some fading with luminance sweeps at high frequency 480i : No BTB, color slight dip in blue, colors slightly skewed, Y/C looked good, slight fading with luminance sweeps at high frequency 12.9 - 20% Window w/DVD PLUGE : the pluge should not change with the varying window brightness no bars should appear or disappear 720p : BTB OK 480i : No BTB 12.10 - 100% Window w/DVD PLUGE : as with 12.9 720p : BTB OK, no fading or brightening 480i : No BTB, no fading or brightening 12.11 - 40% Window w/DVD PLUGE : as with 12.9 720p : as with 12.10 480i : as with 12.10 12.12 - 80% Window w/DVD PLUGE : as with 12.9 720p : as with 12.10 480i : as with 12.10 12.13 - 20% Window w/DVD PLUGE : as with 12.9 720p : as with 12.10 480i : as with 12.10 12.14 - Reverse Gray Ramps (with steps) - even color with ref 6500K - no black or white crush within the framing "dots" 720p : even color with 6500K, no black/white crush 480i : even color with 6500K, no black/white crush 12.15 - Reverse Shallow Ramps - criss-crossed gray ramps. The ramps should be smooth with almost imperceptible steps. The gradation should be smooth and visible with both the top and bottom ramps. If not, crushing is taking place. 720p : Ramps OK 480i : Ramps OK 12.16 - Ambient Light Reference - adjust 6500K backlight to match brightness, if used Not/Applicable 12.17 - 1.33 Overscan Pattern - check for overscan and edge enhancement (very much display dependent). The center cross should not be outlined by a white line on any edge. 720p: Top 4% Bottom 2% Left 1% Right 3% No edge enhancement noted 480i: Top 4% Bottom 1% Left 3% Right 2.5% Some edge enhancement noted 12.18 - 1.33 Aspect Ratio & Geometry Pattern - left: all horizontal/vertical lines visible: no flashing,no banding. right: all diagonal lines visible, smooth, no flashing, no banding 720p : Mostly OK, some banding of high freq, horizontal/vertical lines noted (may be display). Otherwise OK. 480i : Mostly OK, slight banding of high freq, horizontal/vertical lines noted (may be display). Otherwise OK. 12.19 - 1.78 Aspect Ratio & Geometry Pattern - as above with 1.78 markers 720p : as with 12.18 480i : as with 12.18 12.20 - 1.78 Convergence & Geometry - should be centered 720p : see 12.17 some cropping/off center noted (may be display) 480i : see 12.17 some cropping/off center noted (may be display) 12.21 - Video Black 13 - Video Test Signals Picture Resolution 13.2 - SMPTE RP 133 - multiple: 1. Alphabet on all sides should be complete and readable. 2. Gray blocks should be uniform in color w/reference 6500K source. Next to the 0% box there is a 0% outer and 5% inner box. The 5% inner box should be visible. Next to the 100% box there is a 100% outer and 95% inner box. The 95% inner box should be visible. If either inner box is not visible, crushing is occurring. 720p : 1. Top row of capital letters cut off (may be display). Left "A" cropped. Right "M" missing. 2. Inner boxes OK. 480i : 1. Top row of capital letters cut off (may be display). Left "A" cropped. Right "M" missing. 2. Inner boxes OK. 13.3 - Multiburst Vertical - all lines visible, even brightness, no banding, no flashing, no jittering. 720p : Some banding noted with "full" (may be display), otherwise OK. 480i : very slight banding noted at "full", otherwise OK 13.4 - Multiburst, Horizontal, 0.5 to 5.75 Mhz - all lines visible, even brightness of segments, no banding no flashing, no jittering. 720p : Even brightness, some banding noted at higher frequencies (may be display) 480i : Even brightness, very slight banding noted at higher frequencies (may be display) 13.5 - Multiburst, Horizontal, 5.75 to 6.75 Mhz - all line visible, even brightness, no banding no flashing, no jittering. If the brightness decreases, freq response is fading. If brightness increases left to right, freq response boost or edge enhancement 720p : Even brightness, some banding noted at higher frequencies (may be display) 480i : Slight decrease in brightness, very slight banding noted at higher frequencies (may be display) 13.6 - Luminance Sweep, 0.5 to 5.75 Mhz - all lines visible, even brightness, no banding, no flashing, no jittering. 720p : Even brightness, some banding noted at higher frequencies (may be display) 480i : Even brightness, slight banding noted at higher frequencies (may be display) 13.7 - Pb & Pr Sweep 0.25 Mhz to 2.785 Mhz - all lines visible, even brightness, no banding, no flashing, no jittering, no fading to gray 720p : Even brightness, some banding noted at higher frequencies,some fading to gray (may be display) 480i : Even brightness, some banding noted at higher frequencies,some fading to gray (may be display) 13.8 - Video Black 14 - Video Test Signals, System Evaluation 14.2 - 20% Flat Field - even gray at 6500K 720p : Even color gray w/6500K reference 480i : Even color gray w/6500K reference 14.3 - 40% Flat Field - as above 720p : as with 14.2 14.4 - 60% Flat Field - as above 720p : as with 14.2 480i : as with 14.2 14.5 - 80% Flat Field - as above 720p : as with 14.2 480i : as with 14.2 14.6 - 100% Flat Field - as above 720p : as with 14.2 480i : as with 14.2 14.7 - 100% Window w/PLUGE - BTB check, still OK? 720p : BTB OK 480i : No BTB 14.8 - Red 100% Amplitude - red, no orange tine, no other color, no noise, dead pixel check 720p : Color good 480i : Color good 14.9 - Green 100% Amplitude - green, no other color, no noise, dead pixel check 720p : Color good 480i : Color good 14.10 - Blue 100% Amplitude - blue, no other color, no noise, dead pixel check 720p : Color good 480i : Color looks slightly subdued 14.11 - Red 75% Amplitude - should be no change in color from 100% 720p : Color good 480i : Color good 14.12 - Green 75% Amplitude - should be no change in color from 100% 720p : Color good 480i : Color good 14.13 - Blue 75% Amplitude - should be no change in color from 100% 720p : Color good 480i : Color looks slightly subdued 14.14 - Cyan 75% Amplitude - check for noise 720p : Color good 480i : Color looks a bit greenish 14.15 - Magenta 75% Amplitude - check for noise 720p : Color good 480i : Color slightly reddish 14.16 - Yellow, 75% Amplitude - check for noise 720p : Color good 480i : Color good 14.17 - Horizontal Color Bars 100% Saturation - check w/filters 720p : Color good 480i : Blue looks slightly subdued, other colors as noted previously 14.18 - Vertical Color Bars 100% Saturation - check w/filters 720p : Color good 480i : Blue looks slightly subdued, other colors as noted previously 14.19 - Video Black 15 - Video Test Signals, 1.33 Pattern 15.2 - Convergence, 1.33:1 Linear - pillarbox check, should be white line around entire pattern Not Applicable 15.3 - Convergence, 1.33:1 1.78 letterbox markers - same with 1.78 markers Not Applicable 15.4 - Snell & Wilcox Zone Plate Test Pattern, 2/3 rate - ideally the concentric rings should move smoothly,no breakup, no flashing, no distortion as it moves and changes direction. This tests the motion adaptive deinterlacing. In practice it is normal with a good motion adaptive deinterlacer for the concentric rings to distort for a moment, then resume good shape when redirection occurs. The diagonal lines on the left should be smooth with no jittering. If output is 480i then the motion adaptive circuitry used will be that of the TV -- if present. 480i will be more of a test of the display. 720p : Looks OK, concentric rings motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth 480i : Looks Fair, concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth 15.5 - Snell & Wilcox Zone Plate Test Pattern, frame rate - as above 720p : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth 480i : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth 15.6 - Snell & Wilcox Zone Plate Test Pattern, field rate - as above 720p : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth 480i : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth 15.7 - MPEG Decoder Test - *major* catch all test pattern: 1. diagonal lines on left smooth, no jittering 2. No banding with 4:2:0 on bottom left, it should be flashing alternate colors 3. Red and blue triangles in the center left should have smooth diagonal edges 4. Concentric blue/yellow and red/cyan circles in center upper left and right should be smooth and even brightness (aka ICP test) 5. Luminance sweeps at bottom should be even with no bleeding. 6. Rotating box in upper right should be smooth with no jaggies or combing 720p : 1. Diagonal lines smooth 2. No banding, flashing alternate colors 3. Red and Blue Triangles have smooth diagonal edges 4. Concentric blue/yellow and red/cyan circles are smooth - passes test 5. Little bit of bleeding noted (may be display) 6. Rotating box is smooth 480i : 1. Diagonal lines fairly smooth 2. Banding present 3. Red and Blue Triangles have fairly smooth diagonal edges 4. Concentric blue/yellow and red/cyan circles are somewhat smooth - some ICP present 5. Little bit of bleeding noted (may be display) 6. Rotating box is smooth 15.8 - Black Stretch Test - check for BTB 720p : BTB does fade a bit with this test (probably display) 480i : No BTB is passed to fade/enhance 15.9 - Bounce - no geometry changes with flashing. Mainly for CRT displays. 720p : No problems noted 480i : No problems noted 15.10 - Video Black 16 - Video Test Signals, 1.78 Pattern 16.2 - Snell & Wilcox Zone Plate Test Pattern, 2/3 rate - as with 15.4 720p : Looks OK, concentric rings motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth 480i : Looks Fair, concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth 16.3 - Snell & Wilcox Zone Plate Test Pattern, frame rate - as with 15.4 720p : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth 480i : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth 16.4 - Snell & Wilcox Zone Plate Test Pattern, field rate - as with 15.4 720p : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth 480i : Concentric rings not motion adapted, diagonal lines smooth 16.5 - A/V Timing Clock - color ramps w/flashing white bar on top. The colors should be smooth and the flashing white bar should coincide with the tone. 720p : Colors smooth, timing OK. 480i : Colors smooth, timing OK. AVIA (selected) TEST PATTERN RESULTS (DVI @ 720p): Color Decoder - primary colors should be at 0% with reference to background gray 720p : Colors OK when adjusted, no green depression noted. 480i : Colors OK except for blue when adjusted, blue about 10% down, no green depression noted. Y/C Delay - primary colors should match up with gray box below at 0.00. Keep in mind that this test is only a rough estimate (Fixed with latest firmware update). 1080i: Blue : -0.00 Red : -0.00 Green : -0:00 720p: Blue : -0.00 Red : -0.00 Green : -0.00 480i : Blue : 0.00 Red : 0.00 Green : 0.00 Moving Zone Plate - Concentric and diagonal lines should retain shape and detail upon movement Fair, lots of breakup, diagonal lines hold together a bit. The reported "shimmering" can be seen with this pattern as the Vertical Edge Enhancement interferes with adjacent detail lines. Pixel Crop (4:3) - Should be no pixels cropped from sides or top. Highly display dependent. When run through a Sharp LC-26G7U via the computer DVI route, no pixel cropping was noted. These following figures are from a Dell (720p) and Panasonic (1080i) displaya and are almost certainly the result of overscan with the displays. 720p : TOP : 12 BOTTOM : 9 LEFT : 12 RIGHT : 20 480i : TOP : 14 BOTTOM : 5 LEFT : 20+ RIGHT : 16 Thank you: Jeffhdz (for compatibility check), LiteUp! (for region free), GSB, MikeSRC, Josh Z, Guitarman, Neuromancer, Toonces T. Cat, Casey Ng, everyone at Oppo Digital, anyone who has contributed suggestions and reports that have made the DV971H one of the best values in DVD players today. Paul Last edited by Paul Bigelow; 09-30-06 at 12:19 AM.. |
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01-05-05, 07:39 AM
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http://www.winbase.com.cn/proframe.htm Chris |
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01-05-05, 08:01 PM
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Paul, thanks for all the information. I am fighting the urge to buy this player since I just bought the Zenith DVB318. I only need DVD video playback but the Oppo sure looks better than my choice. Chris |
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01-05-05, 09:20 PM
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I was hoping it might!  Seems to be be a very interesting player with some great potential. Hopefully, Winbase/Oppo Digital are particularly responsive concerning firmware updates. I think we'd all be happy to go to the trouble of finding faults if there is a reasonable chance that the faults will either be fixed or explained why they can't be. While the macroblock might be a tough one, the other issues should be fairly easily addressed. Still have to do component, verify disc format capababilities, etc. The macroblocking was pretty muich expected given the processor, I'm hoping the compatibility issue with the Panasonic LCD TV @ 1080i HDMI can be resolved or was a fluke. Only the Denon and Toshiba I briefly owned had problems with 1080i HDMI. Other players such as the Panasonic, Sony, do not. The Momitsu was OK except for the menu and subtitles. Paul |
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01-05-05, 09:46 PM
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Upscaling Problems?
I just received my Oppo today and hooked it up in place of my Samsung HD841. The 841 will get donated to someone I don't necessarily like!...lol
The PQ of the Oppo at 480p is fantastic, better than the 720p of the Sammy. Perhaps it needs to be, because... I can't seem to get the Oppo to upscale. Whenever I hit the DVI button on the remote I get the "function not allowed" circle and slash in the upper left corner. I also cannot acess the "initial setup" menu. My monitor is a Hitachi 65WX20 which is capable of supporting 720p and 1080i, is HDCP compiant and has worked perfectly with a Bravo D1, the Samsung 841 and a Denon 1910. I have a DVID cable from Pacific Cables, and a DVID cable I purchased from Extremephoto along with the Oppo. I have tried both cables without any change. Anyone have any idea what may be happening? Did I just get a bum unit?
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I ran a quick setup using THX optimiser on AOTC. The PQ of this thing is AWESOME at 1080i. Jitter is very low and layer changes lightning quick. The 841, which secrets says it a somewhat fast 1 second, is a snail by comparison. On layer change it regularly would interrupt the audio to my Rotel RSP 1098 long enough to make it's relays start clicking into default PLII from either DTS or DD. This of course was annoying. Now I can't wait to get my PJ and 100+ inch screen! Thanks again!
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Thanks for the excellent technical review. My main concern is with macroblocking considering I have a Benq DLP FP shining on a 100" screen. Can you explain what you mean be false contouring? I don't think my FP exhibits this but I need to be sure before I pull the trigger on this unit. I still have not seen a definitive answer on why the Faroudja 23XX chip installed INSIDE a FP exhibits no macroblocking versus INSIDE a DVD player. The scaler/deinterlacer in my FP is not the best hence my search for a suitable DVD DVI player. John |
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01-06-05, 11:45 AM
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John,
You're welcome! "False Contouring" also known as "posterization" or "solarization" is the unnatural appearance of: 1. Concentric circles of color on facial highlights such as cheekbones 2. Bands of blue appearing underwater or in the sky Typically these situations would call for smooth transitions in the color of skin tones, water, and sky but instead the color is noticibly "stepped". Some displays do better than others. Paul |
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01-06-05, 02:16 PM
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Thanks, Paul.
I have not seen the false contouring on my FP based on your description. But I'm using a cheap Philips DVD player through progressive component and letting the FP scale the image. In your estimation is the macroblocking quite evident or do you really have to look for it? I don't see any with my setup but I'm not using a Faroudja scaler/deinterlacer. John |
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01-06-05, 02:30 PM
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John,
The Philips DVD player probably doesn't have the issue. I see it with the Oppo and Panasonic, but I have to look for it and it isn't visible most of the time. Other people with other displays report differently -- some report seeing it much more often and much worse (at least with the Panasonic 'S97 player). I do not know how it will look on your display. Paul |
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01-06-05, 03:50 PM
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johnny_marin,
For what it is worth, I've got a single chip DLP and a 106" screen and have seen no macroblocking so far. I didn't know what it was so I read several of the threads on macroblocking and found some picture examples and have not seen what was posted. I've had no evidence of macroblocking in any of the space scenes in Star Wars or any of the darker moody Imperial scenes. I also tried to find scenes in other movies with expanses of light such as sky or sand; nothing there either. If I did not experience it in those scenes, I don't know where I would. I know macroblocking exists, I have seen pictures of it. And I don't doubt that the Faroudja FLI23xx may be prone to it in some circumstances, but I sometime think things get posted so much on this forum that they almost become a meme. |
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01-06-05, 03:50 PM
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Compatibility
DVD Video on DVD-R: OK
DVD Video on DVD+R: OK Divx/XviD on CD-R: OK Divx/Xvid on DVD+R: OK SVCD on CD-R: OK PAL DVD Region 6 original DVD: OK NTSC DVD Region 1: OK PAL VCD on CD-R: OK NTSC VCD on CD-R: OK JPEG pictures on CD-R: OK These are the discs I have tested so far. It played everything I put in! Nice "Explorer" style navigation for Divx. |
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