Fiber Optic Star Ceiling

gmanhdtv · 02-12-05, 11:29 AM

Wife saw this on a website for HT setups. Tried searching the forum with no luck?
Anyone install this, recommended sources, cost etc. would be appreciated.

PamW · 02-12-05, 08:38 PM

A forum member, mercury, has it in his signature. Try to PM him.

jmanthey · 02-12-05, 11:06 PM

I used Fiber Optic Systems .

mercury · 02-13-05, 06:46 AM

Thanks Pam!

gmanhdtv,see if my links work for you,any questions,LMK...

meallen · 02-14-05, 12:41 PM

Is it possible to do the fiber optic star ceiling with a drop ceiling? I'm sure it wouldn't look as nice as drywall.

skyman00 · 02-14-05, 12:48 PM

Hey Mike, did you get your PM? -j

meallen · 02-14-05, 12:56 PM

Got it...thanks. Sent you an email.

meallen · 02-14-05, 12:59 PM

Just found this...

http://www.fiberopticproducts.com/Ceiling.htm

mercury · 02-14-05, 01:42 PM

http://www.thefiberopticstore.com/star-ceiling.htm

gmanhdtv · 02-14-05, 03:39 PM

Mercury,
Many kudo's for the links! May I ask as to approximate install time and cost? My ceiling will be approx 16x25 and appreciate your input.
Thanks, Glenn

meallen · 02-14-05, 05:08 PM

Hmmm...on the fiberopticstore site...they show them installing the fibers in a white ceiling. I wonder if that would look good?

bgarner · 02-15-05, 12:34 AM

Is there anyway to install a FiberOptic ceiling without drilling the holes in the ceiling? The reason that I ask is that my ceiling is complete and I don't have access to it from above.

Thanks,

Brian

chinadog · 02-15-05, 08:53 AM

Another member, Jeff Hovis, was going to build a frame around rigid insulation, then cover it with black GOM. Once the fiber was inserted through the insulation, he would hoist it up to the ceilng and attach. I'm not sure of the status of the undertaking though.

Bud

Jason Turk · 02-16-05, 01:48 PM

I went to www.thefiberopticstore.com. They were very helpful. It is a LONG process though. I'm only 1/2 done right now due to other time constraints but it is cool. I did it in a drop ceiling which is black. It really looks cool. I did it simple without copying the real sky. I simply drilled the holes and inserted the fiber. It's a neat accent when a movie is playing, especially a space type movie.

salreus · 02-16-05, 02:26 PM

man, that is sooo cool. I just want to rip out my ceiling and put up a new one. I really have to stop reading AVS Forum

meallen · 02-16-05, 03:51 PM

I would still like to get opinions on putting the fibers through white ceiling tiles. I would if it will look good.

CPanther95 · 02-16-05, 04:54 PM

I would think a white background would diminish the effect.

mercury · 02-16-05, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by meallen
I would still like to get opinions on putting the fibers through white ceiling tiles. I would if it will look good.

Meallen I'm not sure how it would look with a white ceiling...

can you get to the ceiling easy,if so,order some fiber which should be cheap,then use a flashlight to light them up..

thats what i would do

mercury · 02-16-05, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gmanhdtv
Mercury,
Many kudo's for the links! May I ask as to approximate install time and cost? My ceiling will be approx 16x25 and appreciate your input.
Thanks, Glenn

sorry gmanhdtv it`s been a while since iv installed the stars...install time however would depend on-

if you had help,and what kind of install...

Jason Turk · 02-16-05, 11:22 PM

I did some testing in my old house to see the effect before I did it permanently. I used it in white tiles. When the lights were off, it still looked cool. I wouldn't think the color of the tiles would really make much difference.

jmanthey · 02-17-05, 08:30 AM

I agree with Jason. My ceiling is quite light (but not white), and when the other lights are out and only the stars on, it looks very dark. The light from the fiber optics is quite directional and doesn't illuminate the ceiling very much. OTOH, my ceiling is higher than most, so it doesn't get much reflected light. Some pictures of my installation are in the "Construction" section of my website.

meallen · 02-17-05, 08:43 AM

Joe,

You make a great point about the ceiling height. Mine will be between 7 and 8 feet (it's a basement).

Jason...what's the height of your ceiling?

Thanks,
Mike

kriscad · 06-11-05, 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmanthey

I agree with Jason. My ceiling is quite light (but not white), and when the other lights are out and only the stars on, it looks very dark. The light from the fiber optics is quite directional and doesn't illuminate the ceiling very much. OTOH, my ceiling is higher than most, so it doesn't get much reflected light. Some pictures of my installation are in the "More Pictures" section of my website.

You answered my question... i just had my ceiling painted - (light mustard) - and wanted to do a star ceiling too...

How did you poke the holes? Drill or Poker (stainless steel wire tool )?

Thanks

jmanthey · 06-11-05, 07:46 PM

Quote:

How did you poke the holes?

In the "Construction" section of my website you will see my main guy drilling holes through the paper template from below using a high speed drill. While he was doing that, I was above the ceiling color-coding the hole so that it could be found later and supplied with the appropriate fiber. Drilling went fairly rapidly; running the fiber took me several weekends. (I ran out of fiber.)

kthomson · 06-11-05, 11:26 PM

I looked into a star ceiling about 3 years ago. The cost for my room, which is about 800 sq.ft. was about $3500.00 for equipment/materials, with me doing all the installation.

Kirill · 07-07-05, 10:07 AM

What will happen if you'll install it in drywall ceiling and will need to paint it later ?

Nov · 07-11-05, 02:13 PM

When you snip the fibers, leave 1/4" - 3/8" sticking out, so if you want to paint later on you can go back and cut all the fibers down again which will leave a clean end. I just finished my ceiling, an area of 6' x 17', using black suspended tiles, and about 550 stars. Quite a bit of work but it gets a huge "WOW" factor.

dchilders · 07-11-05, 10:39 PM

We intended on doing one of these but it would cost a little more than I want to spend. My wife and I recently went to several home theater show rooms here in atlanta and saw several rooms with stars and clouds painted on a black ceiling with flourescent paint. It looked very good. Actually we liked the look better than what I think the fiber optic would look like (as I havn't actually seen one). The price was about $500 I think. I'll try to dig up the guy's card if anyone is interested.

Lisalynn · 07-12-05, 01:53 AM

StarTiles -Check out the StarTiles. Different sizes and colors available here.
Lit with LEDs and they just plug in.

thericky · 07-12-05, 10:16 AM

Those StarTiles are pretty cool... but pricey!

Are there any star field solutions that are powered via a standard ceiling fan pre-wire with light? I really want to hang a star field centered around the existing ceilling fan pre-wire but am not sure where to begin.

Are there even any fiber optic kits that can be wired in to a ceiling fan pre-wire? I'd hate to have to cut off the end of a plug and "rig" it.

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gmanhdtv Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: windermere, florida Posts: 821	Mercury, Many kudo's for the links! May I ask as to approximate install time and cost? My ceiling will be approx 16x25 and appreciate your input. Thanks, Glenn

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Jason Turk AVS Sales AVS GOLD CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rochester, NY USA Posts: 10,269 Classified Rating: 100% (2)	I went to www.thefiberopticstore.com. They were very helpful. It is a LONG process though. I'm only 1/2 done right now due to other time constraints but it is cool. I did it in a drop ceiling which is black. It really looks cool. I did it simple without copying the real sky. I simply drilled the holes and inserted the fiber. It's a neat accent when a movie is playing, especially a space type movie. __________________ Jason C. Turk Sales, Installations and ISF Calibrations 585-671-2968 jason@avscience.com NOTE: I work for A/V Science, AVSForum.

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meallen Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Halfmoon, NY Posts: 78	I would still like to get opinions on putting the fibers through white ceiling tiles. I would if it will look good.

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Jason Turk AVS Sales AVS GOLD CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Oct 2000 Location: Rochester, NY USA Posts: 10,269 Classified Rating: 100% (2)	I did some testing in my old house to see the effect before I did it permanently. I used it in white tiles. When the lights were off, it still looked cool. I wouldn't think the color of the tiles would really make much difference. __________________ Jason C. Turk Sales, Installations and ISF Calibrations 585-671-2968 jason@avscience.com NOTE: I work for A/V Science, AVSForum.

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jmanthey Senior Member Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Rochester, NY Posts: 327	I agree with Jason. My ceiling is quite light (but not white), and when the other lights are out and only the stars on, it looks very dark. The light from the fiber optics is quite directional and doesn't illuminate the ceiling very much. OTOH, my ceiling is higher than most, so it doesn't get much reflected light. Some pictures of my installation are in the "Construction" section of my website. __________________ Joe Last edited by jmanthey; 05-01-06 at 10:30 AM..

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meallen Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Halfmoon, NY Posts: 78	Joe, You make a great point about the ceiling height. Mine will be between 7 and 8 feet (it's a basement). Jason...what's the height of your ceiling? Thanks, Mike

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dchilders Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 31	We intended on doing one of these but it would cost a little more than I want to spend. My wife and I recently went to several home theater show rooms here in atlanta and saw several rooms with stars and clouds painted on a black ceiling with flourescent paint. It looked very good. Actually we liked the look better than what I think the fiber optic would look like (as I havn't actually seen one). The price was about $500 I think. I'll try to dig up the guy's card if anyone is interested.

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thericky Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 411	Those StarTiles are pretty cool... but pricey! Are there any star field solutions that are powered via a standard ceiling fan pre-wire with light? I really want to hang a star field centered around the existing ceilling fan pre-wire but am not sure where to begin. Are there even any fiber optic kits that can be wired in to a ceiling fan pre-wire? I'd hate to have to cut off the end of a plug and "rig" it.