Has anybody here heard of a "Viore" brand of plasma tv?

Xcalibur_255 · 02-15-05, 03:43 PM

I saw this today. It's 42" and the price is $XXXX. I though to myself, "heh, not too bad a price for an ED plasma." Then I noticed the E was actually an H! A high definition plasma for XXXX bucks? It has DVI-D but no HDMI. It gets better. I played around with this thing a little bit, and all I can say is this tv has to be seen to be believed. For starters, it has almost perfect grayscale tracking. I know D6500 when I see it, and this is very close on the warm color temp setting. It has 5 selectable gamma settings, and horizontal and vertical size and position screen controls which I found odd. I don't recall it all but there's a host of advanced menu options I rarely see in a tv's user menu. Here's the icing on the cake that truly impressed me though: below the color temp menu is a color management menu that allows individual color decoder adjustments. I don't know how fine the adjustment increments are but the fact that they're in the user menu blew me away. I couldn't find out the panel resolution, but it's most likely 1,024x768. Scaling of 1080i looked pretty good too. The only drawback is what seemed to be mediocre contrast ratio overall, but the black and white levels weren't calibrated so that's not fair to say really.

What do you all think? Does anybody know who makes this? I don't mean to sound gushing, but for all that it offers (a picture free of red push and blue tint without an ISF calibration or any kind of service menu tweaking), this could be the HD plasma bargain of the year. What's everybody's thoughts?

Xcalibur_255 · 02-16-05, 10:04 PM

Apparently not.

Robin · 02-16-05, 10:37 PM

The name is evocative of some sort of face cleaning adhesive tape, isn't it? Sorry I couldn't add something constructive.

optivity · 02-17-05, 07:06 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Xcalibur_255
I saw this dtoday. It's 42" and the price is $XXXX. I though to myself, "heh, not too bad a price for an ED plasma." Then I noticed the E was actually an H! A high definition plasma for XXXX bucks?...
What do you all think? Does anybody know who makes this? I don't mean to sound gushing, but for all that it offers (a picture free of red push and blue tint without an ISF calibration or any kind of service menu tweaking), this could be the HD plasma bargain of the year. What's everybody's thoughts?

Here come the Chinese... A decent 42" HD PDP ? Perhaps the prices for all PDP's will decline faster than any of us anticipate. I'm looking forward to the day when I can pick up a Panasonic TH-50PX500U .

joemama127 · 02-17-05, 08:19 AM

I've only seen the very unimpressive "Ilo" and Sanyo plasmas in Wally World but I haven't been to a store in a while. It might be interesting to find out who actually makes the components for this pdp however..

wojtek · 02-17-05, 09:41 AM

There was a Viera line...

joemama127 · 02-17-05, 10:02 AM

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Originally posted by wojtek
There was a Viera line...

That's Panasonic

martyj19 · 02-17-05, 02:06 PM

You have to think that "Viore" is intended to be confused with "Viera" ...

optivity · 02-17-05, 02:33 PM

We've been had...

Wal Mart's web site shows the TH-37PWD6UY in stock for $XXXX

yobob · 02-17-05, 03:24 PM

Looks like it comes with a stand, but even if it does, that ain't such a great price compared to the forum sponsors.

And haven't the 6 series been gone for a while? I wonder where Wally got enough of them to advertise them on their website. . . . .

Bud-man · 02-17-05, 07:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by optivity
We've been had...

Wal Mart's web site shows the TH-37PWD6UY in stock for $XXXX.

Thats about a G note more than you can buy online,You sure it isnt a Vizio hd you saw?

yobob · 02-18-05, 10:01 AM

But why would someone want a 6UY when the 7UYs have been out for so many months? And it's a WD, not an HD.

optivity · 02-18-05, 10:21 AM

The individual who began this thread (Xcalibur_255) hasn't been back to update us regarding what he saw at Wal Mart. I'm going to check out one of their super centers tonight to see what FP's they have. Unfortunately I live in the SmAlbany NY region and our big box stores don't carry the same level (or choice) of merchandise that can be found in area's like Atlanta GA. I posted up the link to Wal Mart's web site because this was the only Panasonic PDP I could find.

IMO, given the conversion to DTV and an increasing choice of HD programming (currently, I get 16 channels in HD), I don't understand why anyone would consider spending $2K on an ED-PDP anymore? In addition, with HD-PDP features like: CableCARD, tuners & HDMI and that PDP's last for 20 years, I don't understand the interest in the commercial models either?

yobob · 02-18-05, 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by optivity
IMO, given the conversion to DTV and an increasing choice of HD programming (currently, I get 16 channels in HD), I don't understand why anyone would consider spending $2K on an ED-PDP anymore? In addition, with HD-PDP features like: CableCARD, tuners & HDMI and that PDP's last for 20 years, I don't understand the interest in the commercial models either?

I'm with you, part way (the second part).

But where I live, the cable provider (Cox) doesn't know when or even if they will offer HD. They do digital, but I'm not gonna spring for that kind of $ unless I can get HD.

dsmith901 · 02-18-05, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by optivity

IMO, given the conversion to DTV and an increasing choice of HD programming (currently, I get 16 channels in HD), I don't understand why anyone would consider spending $2K on an ED-PDP anymore? In addition, with HD-PDP features like: CableCARD, tuners & HDMI and that PDP's last for 20 years, I don't understand the interest in the commercial models either?

If the prices were close and/or the PQ difference was vast, I would agree, but ED and HD versions of the Panasonic 42" models, for example, are $3K apart, and the PQ increase is not all that much for those who sit 10' or more for viewing. Some of the generic brand HD models may approach the Panasonic ED price, but they usually lack the great black levels and overall quality. As to business vs consumer models, I agree with you - the consumer models are the better buy IMO.

optivity · 02-18-05, 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by yobob
I'm with you, part way (the second part).

But where I live, the cable provider (Cox) doesn't know when or even if they will offer HD. They do digital, but I'm not gonna spring for that kind of $ unless I can get HD.

Sorry to hear that. Can't you go with some type of Dish network? I live in Upstate NY and my home is surrounded by trees and hills so I'm married to cable for the time being. Verizon is running fiber into my area so maybe there will be some competition down the road. Albany Time Warner went from two HD channels initially (HBO and Showtime) to 16 during the past two years.

Quote:

Originally posted by dsmith901
If the prices were close and/or the PQ difference was vast, I would agree, but ED and HD versions of the Panasonic 42" models, for example, are $3K apart, and the PQ increase is not all that much for those who sit 10' or more for viewing. Some of the generic brand HD models may approach the Panasonic ED price, but they usually lack the great black levels and overall quality. As to business vs consumer models, I agree with you - the consumer models are the better buy IMO.

I'm interested in buying a 50" HD-PDP and I'd be extremely disappointed if it did not render a better picture than my 36" 4:3 CRT HD-TV.

dsmith901 · 02-18-05, 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by optivity

I'm interested in buying a 50" HD-PDP and I'd be extremely disappointed if it did not render a better picture than my 36" 4:3 CRT HD-TV.

You may want to make a basic in-store comparison between a 4:3 CRT-HDTV and the 50 HDPDP using a familiar DVD. A larger screen will magnify any source defects, so a SD source that looks very good on a 36" CRT can look less so on a 50" PDP. 42" EDs generally do a better job with SD material, including DVDs, but if you have access to plenty of HDTV then by all means get the HD model.

TQM · 03-27-05, 12:18 PM

Well, I just found the 42" Viore HD Ready Plasma TV on Sam's Club website, could be the same one OP mentioned at Walmart. Price range about 2k.

Some Features:
Model: V42PD45M
1024 x 1024 resolution
4000:1 contrast ratio
1000 cd/m2 brightness
Component video input
S-Video input
DVI input

JoelH · 03-27-05, 01:27 PM

Our local Wal-Mart has had this Viore 42" HD plasma on display for about a month. I don't want to violate forum rules, but it is very inexpensive for HD - under the price first mentioned above. PQ in the store looks decent but as everyone knows, this depends on so many setup and environment variables - I would say it's not quite as good as the Pioneer HD unit they were closing out just before, but again setup dependent.

In any case, the brand name & HD spec is not a mistake, hoax or anything else. I'm surprised it hasn't received more discussion than this.

Joel

JoelH · 03-27-05, 01:57 PM

After posting the previous message, I checked Walmart.com, and found they have quite a few interesting plasmas there. Panasonics, Tatungs, and a whole line of "preorder" Hyundais at 60", 50", 42" (HD) and 42" ED.

The Hyundai descriptions all state quite clearly that they are LG panels. The 42" HD unit is listed as 1024 x 768 and 5000:1 (stated) contrast, and is really cheap by today's market, considerably cheaper even than the Viore discussed here. The 50" is listed as 1366 x 768 and 5000:1 (stated) contrast. Inputs for these have DVI, not HDMI and no HDCP mentioned. The 60" price is in the territory of many retail store's 50" offerings.

Interestingly, the search for "plasma" also produces some academic textbooks on plasma physics - not normally a hot item at Wal-Mart. I wonder who they've partnered with for their online sales site?

Joel

Stellasdad · 03-28-05, 11:30 PM

Wow! Under $1700 for the Hyundai ED version and under $1999 for the Hyundai HD version. The HD says "Featuring the latest high-grade, high-contrast HD PDP Panel from LG"
Does anybody have more info about this. LG is semi-highly regarded around here right? Are there other items to consider besides the panel? Would the internal components be made by Hyundai or others or maybe LG as well?

I have never heard of Viore (the original panel for this thread) but I've heard of Hyundai and LG.

Sorry I'm not adding any new info here with this post, but I'm hopefully prod-ing some people into Investigation Mode.

Bud-man · 03-29-05, 06:11 AM

The upgrade stand mount with the green glass bottom is exactly as my buddies Daewoo 42" that he bought in jan 2004, which we all know is a NEC model.
I'm sure the pictures used are NOT what you get.
A few here bought the Ed version of the Hyundai at Costco's for the same price last fall, alot were returned.............

Patrick TX · 04-11-05, 08:33 AM

Any news on who makes the Viore, or has one?

Xcalibur_255 · 05-13-05, 04:52 PM

Whoops. Sorry for never posting back in the thread. After nobody responded the first week I assumed nobody was going to.

To update those who were curious about this tv I did indeed buy one of these from Walmart. It was on clearance at the time and I got it for only $XXXX. Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to give it a testdrive yet. It's temporarily in a room with no cable access, but I have an Oppo DV971H scaling player coming in a day or so.

I have been discussing this with several other owners and we have a working theory on what this tv is. We believe it is using the FJH ALiS glass panel developed by Fujitsu/Hitachi a few years ago. This tv is 1024x1024 interlaced display, and ALiS (alternate lighting of surfaces) was just a really fancy way of saying it was interlaced as well. The Fujitsu interlaced panel was also 1024x1024. Sony, Sanyo, Philips, among others have all used this glass panel. It is being produced in large volumes under multiple brand names which is why they can offer it for a lower price.

The guys I've talked with who own the Viore and can watch it say it's a diamond in the rough. The one guy couldn't stop gushing about how amazing the picture quality is. I personally believe, based on the 1080i feed that was in the walmart store, that this Viore produces an HD picture on par with any plasma I've seen up to $6,000.

I can give a detailed summary of my feelings on the picture quality once my dvd player arrives and I can actually watch mine a little.

Xcalibur_255 · 05-13-05, 04:55 PM

I have a few pictures on my webspace here to look at also:

The last one makes the screen looked very washed out because the camera's flash was on. My cybershot has one helluva flash.

http://spe.midco.net/tyrellgoetz/ima...a/DSC00009.JPG
http://spe.midco.net/tyrellgoetz/ima...a/DSC00010.JPG
http://spe.midco.net/tyrellgoetz/ima...a/DSC00011.JPG

Xcalibur_255 · 05-13-05, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TQM
Well, I just found the 42" Viore HD Ready Plasma TV on Sam's Club website, could be the same one OP mentioned at Walmart. Price range about 2k.

Some Features:
Model: V42PD45M
1024 x 1024 resolution
4000:1 contrast ratio
1000 cd/m2 brightness
Component video input
S-Video input
DVI input

Yep this is the same tv. Sam's doesn't have it anymore, but still lists it because they're slow on the draw.

Xcalibur_255 · 05-13-05, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JoelH
Our local Wal-Mart has had this Viore 42" HD plasma on display for about a month. I don't want to violate forum rules, but it is very inexpensive for HD - under the price first mentioned above. PQ in the store looks decent but as everyone knows, this depends on so many setup and environment variables - I would say it's not quite as good as the Pioneer HD unit they were closing out just before, but again setup dependent.

In any case, the brand name & HD spec is not a mistake, hoax or anything else. I'm surprised it hasn't received more discussion than this.

Joel

That's what I've felt. I wasn't even in the market, being content to wait and see what SED does, but I've never seen such a great price on an HD plasma monitor that didn't look like garbage. The only thing I've seen that worries me so far is that the panel seem to exhibit burn-in with frightening ease. The menus burn in to the display within 2 minutes of being open. The picture is on torch mode though since I have not calibrated it yet. Do all plasmas have image retention this bad when they are new? The white screen function gets rid of it in less than a minute though.

Xcalibur_255 · 05-16-05, 05:06 PM

Update: The Viore and the Oppo DV971H seem to get along well so far. In 480p and 720p anyway. 1080i is messed up, but it may be an Oppo thing.

lightfytr · 06-21-05, 02:51 PM

Just wanted to say I bought the Viore 42" plasma today, hooked it up during lunch and all I can say is Wow! It looks great in HDTV, had to call Cox to turn on the HD for my DVR box and it was beautiful.
2 sets of SV inputs, 1 DVI, 2 component, 1 S-video, and 1 vga.
Set is quite and seems to render the picture nicely.
I am no audio/video pro but I know a nice picture when I see it.
This coupled with the phenomenal return policy of Sam's will allow me to sleep comfortably.
FYI, I found out from my brother (he is a mgr at Costco) that these stores such as Sam's and Costco have contracts with the vendor that gaurantee 100% credit for returned merchandise, thus why they have no expiration on returns.

killer14163 · 06-30-05, 10:04 AM

i know a sams club that will ship it to you !! they had 14 of them as of thursday and they will ship it to your house for ups shipping cost - not jacked up ! mine was 61.38 ro ship it -- cant wait to get it and hook it up i will be driving it with a dish network 6000 hd reciever. anyoune that wants the info on how to get it respond and i will let u know i have the managers name and he was great to deal with plus they hooked me up as they want to move them not carying them anymore !

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Xcalibur_255 AVS Special Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Spearfish, SD Posts: 1,328	Has anybody here heard of a "Viore" brand of plasma tv? I saw this today. It's 42" and the price is $XXXX. I though to myself, "heh, not too bad a price for an ED plasma." Then I noticed the E was actually an H! A high definition plasma for XXXX bucks? It has DVI-D but no HDMI. It gets better. I played around with this thing a little bit, and all I can say is this tv has to be seen to be believed. For starters, it has almost perfect grayscale tracking. I know D6500 when I see it, and this is very close on the warm color temp setting. It has 5 selectable gamma settings, and horizontal and vertical size and position screen controls which I found odd. I don't recall it all but there's a host of advanced menu options I rarely see in a tv's user menu. Here's the icing on the cake that truly impressed me though: below the color temp menu is a color management menu that allows individual color decoder adjustments. I don't know how fine the adjustment increments are but the fact that they're in the user menu blew me away. I couldn't find out the panel resolution, but it's most likely 1,024x768. Scaling of 1080i looked pretty good too. The only drawback is what seemed to be mediocre contrast ratio overall, but the black and white levels weren't calibrated so that's not fair to say really. What do you all think? Does anybody know who makes this? I don't mean to sound gushing, but for all that it offers (a picture free of red push and blue tint without an ISF calibration or any kind of service menu tweaking), this could be the HD plasma bargain of the year. What's everybody's thoughts? __________________ - Tyrell G. "All I want for Christmas is a good Sig Quote." Last edited by Barrybud; 11-22-05 at 09:30 AM..

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Robin Advanced Member Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Michigan Posts: 557	The name is evocative of some sort of face cleaning adhesive tape, isn't it? Sorry I couldn't add something constructive.

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martyj19 AVS Special Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,531	You have to think that "Viore" is intended to be confused with "Viera" ...

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yobob AVS Special Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Antonio Posts: 1,412	Looks like it comes with a stand, but even if it does, that ain't such a great price compared to the forum sponsors. And haven't the 6 series been gone for a while? I wonder where Wally got enough of them to advertise them on their website. . . . .

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yobob AVS Special Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Antonio Posts: 1,412	But why would someone want a 6UY when the 7UYs have been out for so many months? And it's a WD, not an HD.

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optivity P6 HMC/VIOS/AIX 5L Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 10,794	The individual who began this thread (Xcalibur_255) hasn't been back to update us regarding what he saw at Wal Mart. I'm going to check out one of their super centers tonight to see what FP's they have. Unfortunately I live in the SmAlbany NY region and our big box stores don't carry the same level (or choice) of merchandise that can be found in area's like Atlanta GA. I posted up the link to Wal Mart's web site because this was the only Panasonic PDP I could find. IMO, given the conversion to DTV and an increasing choice of HD programming (currently, I get 16 channels in HD), I don't understand why anyone would consider spending $2K on an ED-PDP anymore? In addition, with HD-PDP features like: CableCARD, tuners & HDMI and that PDP's last for 20 years, I don't understand the interest in the commercial models either?

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TQM Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Chicago Posts: 17	Well, I just found the 42" Viore HD Ready Plasma TV on Sam's Club website, could be the same one OP mentioned at Walmart. Price range about 2k. Some Features: Model: V42PD45M 1024 x 1024 resolution 4000:1 contrast ratio 1000 cd/m2 brightness Component video input S-Video input DVI input

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JoelH Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 20	The unit certainly exists. Our local Wal-Mart has had this Viore 42" HD plasma on display for about a month. I don't want to violate forum rules, but it is very inexpensive for HD - under the price first mentioned above. PQ in the store looks decent but as everyone knows, this depends on so many setup and environment variables - I would say it's not quite as good as the Pioneer HD unit they were closing out just before, but again setup dependent. In any case, the brand name & HD spec is not a mistake, hoax or anything else. I'm surprised it hasn't received more discussion than this. Joel

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JoelH Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Tucson, AZ Posts: 20	Look at WalMart.com After posting the previous message, I checked Walmart.com, and found they have quite a few interesting plasmas there. Panasonics, Tatungs, and a whole line of "preorder" Hyundais at 60", 50", 42" (HD) and 42" ED. The Hyundai descriptions all state quite clearly that they are LG panels. The 42" HD unit is listed as 1024 x 768 and 5000:1 (stated) contrast, and is really cheap by today's market, considerably cheaper even than the Viore discussed here. The 50" is listed as 1366 x 768 and 5000:1 (stated) contrast. Inputs for these have DVI, not HDMI and no HDCP mentioned. The 60" price is in the territory of many retail store's 50" offerings. Interestingly, the search for "plasma" also produces some academic textbooks on plasma physics - not normally a hot item at Wal-Mart. I wonder who they've partnered with for their online sales site? Joel

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Stellasdad New Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 14	Wow! Under $1700 for the Hyundai ED version and under $1999 for the Hyundai HD version. The HD says "Featuring the latest high-grade, high-contrast HD PDP Panel from LG" Does anybody have more info about this. LG is semi-highly regarded around here right? Are there other items to consider besides the panel? Would the internal components be made by Hyundai or others or maybe LG as well? I have never heard of Viore (the original panel for this thread) but I've heard of Hyundai and LG. Sorry I'm not adding any new info here with this post, but I'm hopefully prod-ing some people into Investigation Mode.

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Bud-man AVS Special Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 2,254	The upgrade stand mount with the green glass bottom is exactly as my buddies Daewoo 42" that he bought in jan 2004, which we all know is a NEC model. I'm sure the pictures used are NOT what you get. A few here bought the Ed version of the Hyundai at Costco's for the same price last fall, alot were returned............. __________________ If your parents didn't have children, pretty sure you won't either.

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Xcalibur_255 AVS Special Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Spearfish, SD Posts: 1,328	Whoops. Sorry for never posting back in the thread. After nobody responded the first week I assumed nobody was going to. To update those who were curious about this tv I did indeed buy one of these from Walmart. It was on clearance at the time and I got it for only $XXXX. Unfortunately I haven't had the opportunity to give it a testdrive yet. It's temporarily in a room with no cable access, but I have an Oppo DV971H scaling player coming in a day or so. I have been discussing this with several other owners and we have a working theory on what this tv is. We believe it is using the FJH ALiS glass panel developed by Fujitsu/Hitachi a few years ago. This tv is 1024x1024 interlaced display, and ALiS (alternate lighting of surfaces) was just a really fancy way of saying it was interlaced as well. The Fujitsu interlaced panel was also 1024x1024. Sony, Sanyo, Philips, among others have all used this glass panel. It is being produced in large volumes under multiple brand names which is why they can offer it for a lower price. The guys I've talked with who own the Viore and can watch it say it's a diamond in the rough. The one guy couldn't stop gushing about how amazing the picture quality is. I personally believe, based on the 1080i feed that was in the walmart store, that this Viore produces an HD picture on par with any plasma I've seen up to $6,000. I can give a detailed summary of my feelings on the picture quality once my dvd player arrives and I can actually watch mine a little. __________________ - Tyrell G. "All I want for Christmas is a good Sig Quote." Last edited by rmcgirr83; 11-22-05 at 11:00 AM..

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Xcalibur_255 AVS Special Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Spearfish, SD Posts: 1,328	I have a few pictures on my webspace here to look at also: The last one makes the screen looked very washed out because the camera's flash was on. My cybershot has one helluva flash. http://spe.midco.net/tyrellgoetz/ima...a/DSC00009.JPG http://spe.midco.net/tyrellgoetz/ima...a/DSC00010.JPG http://spe.midco.net/tyrellgoetz/ima...a/DSC00011.JPG __________________ - Tyrell G. "All I want for Christmas is a good Sig Quote."

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lightfytr Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 20	Bought one today! Just wanted to say I bought the Viore 42" plasma today, hooked it up during lunch and all I can say is Wow! It looks great in HDTV, had to call Cox to turn on the HD for my DVR box and it was beautiful. 2 sets of SV inputs, 1 DVI, 2 component, 1 S-video, and 1 vga. Set is quite and seems to render the picture nicely. I am no audio/video pro but I know a nice picture when I see it. This coupled with the phenomenal return policy of Sam's will allow me to sleep comfortably. FYI, I found out from my brother (he is a mgr at Costco) that these stores such as Sam's and Costco have contracts with the vendor that gaurantee 100% credit for returned merchandise, thus why they have no expiration on returns.

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killer14163 New Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 12	i just bought one of these !! it will be here on tuesday - if anyone still wants one i know a sams club that will ship it to you !! they had 14 of them as of thursday and they will ship it to your house for ups shipping cost - not jacked up ! mine was 61.38 ro ship it -- cant wait to get it and hook it up i will be driving it with a dish network 6000 hd reciever. anyoune that wants the info on how to get it respond and i will let u know i have the managers name and he was great to deal with plus they hooked me up as they want to move them not carying them anymore !