New Sharp DLP

KD123 · 04-07-05, 11:55 AM

Have any one seen this new coming Sharp DLP 65DR560? I saw
it listed on the web for a reasonable price for a 65 inch with the
built-in ATSC.

fudgebrown · 04-07-05, 12:10 PM

here's a pic...

c1courtney · 04-07-05, 02:04 PM

KD, welcome to the forum.

I don't believe than any of the Sharp DLPs have shipped yet. The first was suppose to be the 56DR650 in March and I haven't heard about any of them hitting the streets yet. The only place I see it listed on the Internet are stores in which they often sell you the unit well before they're actually released and tell you that they're backordered until they actually get some in. The site you mentioned is one of them.

Sharps Press Release
http://www.sharpusa.com/about/AboutP...08,477,00.html

CCourtney

KD123 · 04-07-05, 02:28 PM

Thanks CCourtney,
I have been lurking about a year and this is the fisrt time I register
and post. I am looking to buy a second HDTV for my movie room.
Currently I have the Samsung and love it. It is interesting to see
more manufacturers producing the DLP. It should be for the advantage
of the consumer. I will have to wait to see what come out.

Khanh

c1courtney · 04-07-05, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AkaStp
Which DMD chip will they have? HD2, HD2+, HD3, or ?

The indications are that the DR650 series will have HD3s and the DR750s will have a different 720p chip (not specified - TV Authority lists HD4 but there's no official HD4 chip currently announced by TI.)

It appears that Sharp wants to play in the lower cost DLP market (at least with their initial sets.)

I do have to say I like the styling (nice compact base - no obvious speakers) and it looks like you can use a smaller Stand to put it on.

CCourtney

TetsujinWave · 04-08-05, 02:22 AM

Here are some pictures of it from CES.

TetsujinWave · 04-08-05, 02:23 AM

Stat card for the set.

TetsujinWave · 04-08-05, 02:24 AM

Second picture view.

TetsujinWave · 04-08-05, 02:27 AM

Third picture view.

irishrulze · 04-08-05, 09:31 AM

I saw these TV's at the dealer line show, they looked pretty well, sharp! Should be able to get at a reasonable price as well.

fudgebrown · 04-08-05, 09:31 AM

Wow, from those pics it looks to be a very nice set. HD4 chip eh? Superior to HD2+ chip??

c1courtney · 04-08-05, 09:54 AM

Well the contrast ratio listed on the card is 2000:1 which matches the light engines in the Samsung HLPxx74 and xx77 series DLPs w/ the HD2+ with a 6 segment color wheel. That light engine has been referred to by TI as 4th gen HD light engine so I'd guess that's what it is and the 'HD4 chip' is a marketing mistake by Sharp.

TI has never announced an HD4 chip. They always announce chips at shows either before or with sets that they're going into.

CCourtney

TetsujinWave · 04-08-05, 10:55 PM

If it was a marketing mistake, then Optoma made the exact same one with their sets. The HD4 is a TI chip, but TI wants to move away from the nomenclature altogether to "avoid customer confusion."

That is what the TI representative said at CES, anyway. Apparently Optoma and Sharp didn't get the memo.

Fahren · 06-14-05, 12:17 PM

tvauthority lists it as being in stock. somebody buy it already and write a review. i'm salivating over it.

htwaits · 06-14-05, 03:05 PM

It's been at Fry's Electronics in our area for a while. Fry's is no place to evaluate a DLP set. I didn't care for the case but have no idea what the PQ will be like based on what I saw.

kin@tvauthority · 06-14-05, 05:25 PM

Somebody should buy one so we get a good review on one

Seriously though, there is almost no information out there about these sets. All the screen shots I've seen from CES looked great, and it's at a great price, with very attractive specs. I like that V design also.

snb3 · 06-14-05, 11:56 PM

Kin,
do you have one on display?

KD123 · 06-20-05, 12:15 PM

I saw this TV at Fry's in Houston (Southwest) this weekend. It was tucked in a corner that you can not even see it at the store. I know one can not judge the picture at the store. My first impression is that the picture is not that sharp. You can see the pixels (square but rotate 45 degree like a diamond) and the screen door effect. Much more than my Samsung HLP.

CorCentral · 10-06-05, 10:55 PM

Would like some more info on this set. I did a search of 56DR650 but nothing better than this thread.

Yes, I read the recent Consumer Reports on the newer sets including this Sharp that ranked 1st. I never go by thier reviews of electronics but still want to know what you guys think of it and would also like to know which set below is the BEST overall for Digital Cable/DVD playback/cable card ?

JVC HD-61Z886
OR
Sharp 56DR650

waltzonice · 10-06-05, 11:51 PM

I've also looked into buying this set. Costco is still selling the 56DR650. They were selling the 65DR650 too, but I guess they must have sold out of those. The only user review I've read is from some guy who had a dud set and he posted a negative review on various websites (including CNET). Anyone know when the 750 series is supposed to be released??

CorCentral -- I don't think the 650 series has CableCard. That's coming in the 750 series.

install425 · 10-15-05, 07:39 AM

I have a 65dr650 and think it is great. I have had it for about a month now. My only complaint is the codes for the remote, to switch inputs it has 1 button for every 2 inputs. Or 1 button to scroll thru all inputs. Doesn't work well when programming a universal remote. Other than that TV is very good for a good price.

docrings · 11-14-05, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by install425

I have a 65dr650 and think it is great. I have had it for about a month now. My only complaint is the codes for the remote, to switch inputs it has 1 button for every 2 inputs. Or 1 button to scroll thru all inputs. Doesn't work well when programming a universal remote. Other than that TV is very good for a good price.

Can you start a new thread with a very thorough review of your TV to help out those of us thinking about this very reasonably priced 65-incher?

Please discuss setup, picture quality (SD, DVD, HD), case quality, screen door effect (if any), rainbow effect (if you see them), etc.

Thanks!!!!!!

Doc Rings

PaulGo · 11-14-05, 04:43 PM

The Sharp 56DR650 was rated number one buy Consumer Reports. However, I don't know how firm Sharp's commitment is to RP DLP sets. They are discontinuing tube based TV sets and seem to be specializing in flat panel LCD technology.

DennisJ2tv · 12-12-05, 08:18 PM

I'm pretty picky - want the best value for the largest size - this seemed like a good pick - and - with Costco offering it at $2399 - and - with my 8 year old Mitsubishi 52" going out - time to upgrade. I chose the Sharp 65DR650 which appears to be the best bang for the buck.

I was only able to find two reviews - one (*) and one (*****) - I didn't give much credibility to the (*) review because the dude didn't provide any facts, details or otherwise credible info about the set - just a whiner. The (*****) review I got is from consumer guide which can be found at the following address: <ack, won't let me post the address!! - well, drop me a line if you'd like to see the review...>
- sounds like a pretty impressive set for the price.

I'll be sure to write back with my own consumer/findings...

h00ligan · 12-14-05, 12:11 AM

findings!

DennisJ2tv · 12-21-05, 01:38 AM

Yippee! Get my new 65" before xmas... I'll post my review of the set in a few days... btw, anyone have any info on the difference between 720p and 1080p? Since my set is 720p - I'm hoping this isn't going to be a major quality difference...

leshrac55 · 12-21-05, 04:36 PM

I have one of these coming to me in February, but I will need a DVD Player to go along with it. I noticed that the set included the "Faroudja DCDi" technology. Is this the upconverting technology? If so, does this mean I no longer need an up-converting DVD Player?

I was considering the Oppo, but if I don't need it, then does anyone have suggestions on another DVD player?

Thanks!

mde71 · 12-23-05, 01:48 PM

The 65" can be had for a great price. Looks like only one HDMI input though.

DennisJ2tv · 12-28-05, 06:16 PM

As promised - I'm posting the review of the Sharp 65DR650.

First of all, wow! This set is absolutely gorgeous...

1. DVD

DVD: I have a ton of movies - nearly 1500 - I love movies. The player I have (Sony) was connected to my previous set using S-Video. I was not impressed at first with the picture quality - but - after purchasing a $100 set of composite video cables, the clarity is unbelievable. Plan on spending some money to get the right cables/components in order to take advantage of the set's functionality.

2. Cable/Satellite

Analog signal leaves something to be desired. I found that DirecTV with whom I subscribe requires an HD receiver and a new antenna in order to implement a true HD signal. Once again, I was not impressed with the picture quality - but - after spending the $49 to have a new dish and receiver (after mfr's mail-in rebate) installed, wow! The picture quality is absolutely awesome! Analag transmissions still leave something to be desired. ** Quick note: DirecTV is now rolling out 150 channels in HD - in about 30 days, you'll be able to get a "super dish" installed that will support this functionality.

3. General Comments

a. TV Sound - very good quality - but, every once in a while I notice that the sound and the picture down align properly - the sound seems to be a few miliseconds ahead of the picture - don't know if this is a problem with lag on the HD signal in general or not and it doesn't happen frequently, but - just an observation.

b. The set, even though it has its own built in base, places the picture at about 14" from the ground - not high enough in my opinion. I bought a Tech Craft stand, Model PTV582/PTV583REV.0T which adds 20" of height - perfect match - now, feels like I'm in a theatre...! Cost was about $200 from C.City.

c. Be sure to set the TV type to 720i on your HD receiver - seems that the default was 480i. Hm...

Summary:

Outstanding TV for the price. Brilliant picture - thinking about buying another for upstairs.

joe1 · 01-06-06, 12:46 AM

DennisJ2tv - congrats, I recently bought the same TV from Costco and same stand from CC.

I do have a question for you - are you able to change Picture settings? I can scroll to the menu and see the various adjustments like Picture, Brightness, Contrast, etc. But, I am not able to change any of the settings. When I try to 'select' or choose 'ok', the screen responds 'Unavailable' and indicates it is 'Dynamically Fixed'. Does your set do the same?? thanks.

Oh, 1 additional comment about our stand - I like the height as well, but the 2 glass shelves with the cut-off shape at the rear is really causing me regret. Because of the cut-off shape, I am not able to utilize the full width of the shelf and can house only 2 components, instead of 3 (center the 2, rather than putting a 3rd component). It is causing me grief b/c I have no where to put my CD changer...

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KD123 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 18	New Sharp DLP Have any one seen this new coming Sharp DLP 65DR560? I saw it listed on the web for a reasonable price for a 65 inch with the built-in ATSC.

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DennisJ2tv New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3	I bought one - I'll let you know how it goes once I get it... I'm pretty picky - want the best value for the largest size - this seemed like a good pick - and - with Costco offering it at $2399 - and - with my 8 year old Mitsubishi 52" going out - time to upgrade. I chose the Sharp 65DR650 which appears to be the best bang for the buck. I was only able to find two reviews - one () and one (***) - I didn't give much credibility to the () review because the dude didn't provide any facts, details or otherwise credible info about the set - just a whiner. The (*****) review I got is from consumer guide which can be found at the following address: <ack, won't let me post the address!! - well, drop me a line if you'd like to see the review...> - sounds like a pretty impressive set for the price. I'll be sure to write back with my own consumer/findings...

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c1courtney Senior Engineer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 1,703	KD, welcome to the forum. I don't believe than any of the Sharp DLPs have shipped yet. The first was suppose to be the 56DR650 in March and I haven't heard about any of them hitting the streets yet. The only place I see it listed on the Internet are stores in which they often sell you the unit well before they're actually released and tell you that they're backordered until they actually get some in. The site you mentioned is one of them. Sharps Press Release http://www.sharpusa.com/about/AboutP...08,477,00.html CCourtney

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KD123 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 18	Thanks CCourtney, I have been lurking about a year and this is the fisrt time I register and post. I am looking to buy a second HDTV for my movie room. Currently I have the Samsung and love it. It is interesting to see more manufacturers producing the DLP. It should be for the advantage of the consumer. I will have to wait to see what come out. Khanh

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c1courtney Senior Engineer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 1,703	Well the contrast ratio listed on the card is 2000:1 which matches the light engines in the Samsung HLPxx74 and xx77 series DLPs w/ the HD2+ with a 6 segment color wheel. That light engine has been referred to by TI as 4th gen HD light engine so I'd guess that's what it is and the 'HD4 chip' is a marketing mistake by Sharp. TI has never announced an HD4 chip. They always announce chips at shows either before or with sets that they're going into. CCourtney

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TetsujinWave HDTV Technophile Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Durham, NC Posts: 602	If it was a marketing mistake, then Optoma made the exact same one with their sets. The HD4 is a TI chip, but TI wants to move away from the nomenclature altogether to "avoid customer confusion." That is what the TI representative said at CES, anyway. Apparently Optoma and Sharp didn't get the memo.

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Fahren New Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: NC Posts: 6	tvauthority lists it as being in stock. somebody buy it already and write a review. i'm salivating over it.

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kin@tvauthority Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 388	Somebody should buy one so we get a good review on one Seriously though, there is almost no information out there about these sets. All the screen shots I've seen from CES looked great, and it's at a great price, with very attractive specs. I like that V design also.

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snb3 Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 152	Kin, do you have one on display?

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KD123 Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Sugar Land, TX Posts: 18	I saw this TV at Fry's in Houston (Southwest) this weekend. It was tucked in a corner that you can not even see it at the store. I know one can not judge the picture at the store. My first impression is that the picture is not that sharp. You can see the pixels (square but rotate 45 degree like a diamond) and the screen door effect. Much more than my Samsung HLP.

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CorCentral Member Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 124	Would like some more info on this set. I did a search of 56DR650 but nothing better than this thread. Yes, I read the recent Consumer Reports on the newer sets including this Sharp that ranked 1st. I never go by thier reviews of electronics but still want to know what you guys think of it and would also like to know which set below is the BEST overall for Digital Cable/DVD playback/cable card ? JVC HD-61Z886 OR Sharp 56DR650

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waltzonice Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 114	I've also looked into buying this set. Costco is still selling the 56DR650. They were selling the 65DR650 too, but I guess they must have sold out of those. The only user review I've read is from some guy who had a dud set and he posted a negative review on various websites (including CNET). Anyone know when the 750 series is supposed to be released?? CorCentral -- I don't think the 650 series has CableCard. That's coming in the 750 series.

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install425 New Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 3	I have a 65dr650 and think it is great. I have had it for about a month now. My only complaint is the codes for the remote, to switch inputs it has 1 button for every 2 inputs. Or 1 button to scroll thru all inputs. Doesn't work well when programming a universal remote. Other than that TV is very good for a good price.

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PaulGo AVS Special Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: North Potomac, MD Posts: 2,514	The Sharp 56DR650 was rated number one buy Consumer Reports. However, I don't know how firm Sharp's commitment is to RP DLP sets. They are discontinuing tube based TV sets and seem to be specializing in flat panel LCD technology.

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h00ligan Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 121	findings!

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DennisJ2tv New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3	Arriving tomorrow Yippee! Get my new 65" before xmas... I'll post my review of the set in a few days... btw, anyone have any info on the difference between 720p and 1080p? Since my set is 720p - I'm hoping this isn't going to be a major quality difference...

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leshrac55 Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 164	DVD player? I have one of these coming to me in February, but I will need a DVD Player to go along with it. I noticed that the set included the "Faroudja DCDi" technology. Is this the upconverting technology? If so, does this mean I no longer need an up-converting DVD Player? I was considering the Oppo, but if I don't need it, then does anyone have suggestions on another DVD player? Thanks!

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mde71 Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 55	The 65" can be had for a great price. Looks like only one HDMI input though.

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DennisJ2tv New Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3	My Review As promised - I'm posting the review of the Sharp 65DR650. First of all, wow! This set is absolutely gorgeous... 1. DVD DVD: I have a ton of movies - nearly 1500 - I love movies. The player I have (Sony) was connected to my previous set using S-Video. I was not impressed at first with the picture quality - but - after purchasing a $100 set of composite video cables, the clarity is unbelievable. Plan on spending some money to get the right cables/components in order to take advantage of the set's functionality. 2. Cable/Satellite Analog signal leaves something to be desired. I found that DirecTV with whom I subscribe requires an HD receiver and a new antenna in order to implement a true HD signal. Once again, I was not impressed with the picture quality - but - after spending the $49 to have a new dish and receiver (after mfr's mail-in rebate) installed, wow! The picture quality is absolutely awesome! Analag transmissions still leave something to be desired. ** Quick note: DirecTV is now rolling out 150 channels in HD - in about 30 days, you'll be able to get a "super dish" installed that will support this functionality. 3. General Comments a. TV Sound - very good quality - but, every once in a while I notice that the sound and the picture down align properly - the sound seems to be a few miliseconds ahead of the picture - don't know if this is a problem with lag on the HD signal in general or not and it doesn't happen frequently, but - just an observation. b. The set, even though it has its own built in base, places the picture at about 14" from the ground - not high enough in my opinion. I bought a Tech Craft stand, Model PTV582/PTV583REV.0T which adds 20" of height - perfect match - now, feels like I'm in a theatre...! Cost was about $200 from C.City. c. Be sure to set the TV type to 720i on your HD receiver - seems that the default was 480i. Hm... Summary: Outstanding TV for the price. Brilliant picture - thinking about buying another for upstairs.

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joe1 New Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Southern CA Posts: 3	DennisJ2tv - congrats, I recently bought the same TV from Costco and same stand from CC. I do have a question for you - are you able to change Picture settings? I can scroll to the menu and see the various adjustments like Picture, Brightness, Contrast, etc. But, I am not able to change any of the settings. When I try to 'select' or choose 'ok', the screen responds 'Unavailable' and indicates it is 'Dynamically Fixed'. Does your set do the same?? thanks. Oh, 1 additional comment about our stand - I like the height as well, but the 2 glass shelves with the cut-off shape at the rear is really causing me regret. Because of the cut-off shape, I am not able to utilize the full width of the shelf and can house only 2 components, instead of 3 (center the 2, rather than putting a 3rd component). It is causing me grief b/c I have no where to put my CD changer...