Marantz DV9600 Flagship DVD Player w/ HDMI 1.1, I-Link, 1080p

Spizz · 08-11-05, 05:29 AM

http://www.marantz.jp/ce/news/press/2005/dv9600.html
http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/do...0/marantz1.htm

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Spero D.

_XipHiaS_ · 08-11-05, 06:15 AM

Hey, it's got a phones connector

. Load's of players mis this on today's front's.
What's a D1/D2 connector?

zeropoint · 08-11-05, 07:21 AM

I think D1/D2 is a Far Eastern (Japanese) video connection standard.

D1 video - 525i (480i)
D2 video - 525p (480p)

ac388 · 08-11-05, 07:37 AM

D1/D2 is the Japanese version of component.

captain_video · 08-11-05, 08:53 AM

The 9600 model was announced over a month ago. Nice pictures though.

If the 9600 is as good as the 9500 then they'll have a hands-down winner with this model. It's got the features the 9500 was missing. I still haven't heard if this model has any sort of disc memory so it can remember where you left off. My major pet peeve with my 9500 is that it gets alzheimer's when you swap discs or turn it off.

ogbuehi · 08-11-05, 04:22 PM

How much does it cost?

thedeskE · 08-11-05, 08:23 PM

Nice - guess the 1080P is for some mystic media?

E

Carled · 08-11-05, 09:31 PM

I wonder how it will compare to the Pioneer 79avi?

ogbuehi · 08-11-05, 10:03 PM

How much does it cost?

ac388 · 08-12-05, 04:01 AM

US$1,600 or 180,000 yen n release date will be end of Sept.2005.

NorthJersey · 08-12-05, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by thedeskE

Nice - guess the 1080P is for some mystic media?

E

and even if it upscales DVD's to 1080p what displays will actually accept 1080p over HDMI currently ?

Rudy1 · 08-12-05, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NorthJersey

and even if it upscales DVD's to 1080p what displays will actually accept 1080p over HDMI currently ?

Probably only displays intended for the japanese market.

apesma · 08-12-05, 03:14 PM

ac388
$1600 US. More features than the 9500 but $500 less. I find that hard to believe.

AlieniceT · 08-12-05, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by apesma

ac388
$1600 US. More features than the 9500 but $500 less. I find that hard to believe.

I agree. It will be over $2k, otherwise nobody will buy the 9500's still available.

BIG ED · 08-12-05, 07:04 PM

1080p SD DVD players are going to make HD an even tougher sell.
Would this unit use HQV?

ac388 · 08-12-05, 10:53 PM

I don't believe the price either. Unless I foul it up on the currency conversion, otherwise you can check it out at the following site,

http://www.marantz.jp/ce/news/press/2005/dv9600.html

Quote:

Originally Posted by apesma

ac388
$1600 US. More features than the 9500 but $500 less. I find that hard to believe.

PooperScooper · 08-12-05, 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BIG ED

1080p SD DVD players are going to make HD an even tougher sell.
Would this unit use HQV?

Why? The source is still 480i. It's not using HQV or else it would most likely be plastered all over the marketing info.

larry

AlieniceT · 08-13-05, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by PooperScooper

It's not using HQV or else it would most likely be plastered all over the marketing info.

larry

Right, and on the front panel in the pictures.

H8nXTC · 08-14-05, 02:05 AM

No DVD-Audio support? Why not make this a universal player?

Kevin C Brown · 08-14-05, 05:53 AM

The 9600 is a universal player. CD, DVD-V, DVD-A, and SACD. Probably plays video CDs too.

AK47 · 08-14-05, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlieniceT

Right, and on the front panel in the pictures.

That logo is NSV, not HQV

AlieniceT · 08-14-05, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by AK47

That logo is NSV, not HQV

The comment was in regards to the lack of an HQV logo on the front panel, thus pointing out the probability that Marantz does not utilize HQV in the 9600. NSV never entered the picture.

CrocHunter · 08-14-05, 04:42 PM

I'd just wait for the "REAL" HD DVD players coming soon.

BIG ED · 08-17-05, 08:55 PM

Quote:

Why? The source is still 480i.

Larry,
Because people have hundreds of SD (480i) DVD's and no one has a single HD disc. Therefore one could buy a 1080p SD DVD player and play all their DVD's. Or someone could buy a HD player and play... I don't know, what could they play? If fact, when could they play it?
Hence, today's 1080p SD DVD players will put pressure on the sale of the none have been announced 1080p HD players.

Quote:

I'd just wait for the "REAL" HD DVD players coming soon.

CrocHunter,
How well will "real" HD players play back DVD, is a question no one has the answer to. It's unfortunate how some universal players have faired poorly on CD playback. Hope the same is not true of video, that has been true for audio.

Kevin C Brown · 08-17-05, 09:53 PM

Heck, no one even knows *if* the new BluRay and/or HD-DVD players will be able to play anything other than BluRay and/or HD-DVD discs. I bet it's quite a while until we see a high def *universal* player. So at least at the beginning, you will be forced to choose *between* at least BluRay and HD-DVD. Sorry, I'll wait. But I'll be enjoying pristeen std def DVD until that time.

BIG ED · 08-18-05, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Heck, no one even knows *if* the new BluRay and/or HD-DVD players will be able to play anything other than BluRay and/or HD-DVD discs. I bet it's quite a while until we see a high def *universal* player.

That's my point on 1080p SD DVD player putting pressure on sales of HD players. 1080p SD DVD players are here today and BD, HD DVD, & universal HiRez players are here... when?

Even if HiRez players are released at under $1000, I believe many videophiles will have already invested (and be pleased with playing all their DVD's at 1080p. Like Kevin is now only more so) in these SD DVD players. With few titles to choose from at the start, competing formats, and no universal players on the horizon, I see HD players being a very tough sell.

Sony's best bet is PS3.

Sounds Simple · 08-18-05, 08:57 PM

Quote:

With few titles to choose from at the start, competing formats, and no universal players on the horizon, I see HD players being a very tough sell.

Don't forget the intrusive copy protection for BR (and, I assume HD-DVD).

Bob

Kurtis Bahr · 08-19-05, 12:48 AM

Personally I'm happy with my 9500 as my display will not do 1080p, only 1080i. I'm also concerned with what the compression will look like. Hollywood really doesn't like homeowners to have a source as good as the theaters.

Look at D-VHS. I have the players and tapes and it is the best HD format I've ever seen with my eyes, blows away upscaled DVD's. But only Fox supported it and it died as a format. If you ever saw it you would love it too but it is a tape format and searches are a real pain.

Kurtis

captain_video · 08-19-05, 03:28 PM

ALL video tape formats are a pain but digital VHS is the worst. There's no search function available so finding an exact spot on the tape is a hit or miss proposition. The best you can hope for is to get somewhere in the vicinity. I used to have the Hughes D-VHS recorder with the Platinum DTV receiver. At the time it was the best recording device available for DTV and the only recorder anywhere that would record Dolby Digital audio. It was a real love/hate relationship that was quickly dissolved when the DirecTivos were introduced. I'll never go back to a tape format again after experiencing a DVR. Now I'm running two HDTivos and several standard definition models. It totally blows away any tape format for recording HDTV and even SD TV. It also outputs 1080i, 720p and 480p in addition to 480i and has an HDMI output, making it a perfect match for my Hitachi 60VS810 LCD RPTV.

Kurtis Bahr · 08-19-05, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by captain_video

ALL video tape formats are a pain but digital VHS is the worst. There's no search function available so finding an exact spot on the tape is a hit or miss proposition. The best you can hope for is to get somewhere in the vicinity. I used to have the Hughes D-VHS recorder with the Platinum DTV receiver. At the time it was the best recording device available for DTV and the only recorder anywhere that would record Dolby Digital audio. It was a real love/hate relationship that was quickly dissolved when the DirecTivos were introduced. I'll never go back to a tape format again after experiencing a DVR. Now I'm running two HDTivos and several standard definition models. It totally blows away any tape format for recording HDTV and even SD TV. It also outputs 1080i, 720p and 480p in addition to 480i and has an HDMI output, making it a perfect match for my Hitachi 60VS810 LCD RPTV.

Guess I should have been cleared with my impression. D-Theater pre-recorded tape are what blow DVD, Over the Air and Satellite away. D-Theater has less compression and you have to see it to believe it. The larger the screen the better D-Theater looks.

Using D-VHS as a recording device is not a friendly medium. As listed above searches and scan can only be done with watching the counter and hit or miss. But if you want to off-load off your DVR then D-VHS is not bad. You can put it back on the DVR later if you have a Firewire connection and not loose any quality.

I also prefer DVR for for recording off Cable.

Just wish the new High Definition DVD format would have the same low compression as D-Theater but I doubt it.

As for the 9600, I wish I would have waited for it but since my monitor only does 1080i I'll stay with the 9500.

Kurtis

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zeropoint Illusory Member Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: UK/US Posts: 259	I think D1/D2 is a Far Eastern (Japanese) video connection standard. D1 video - 525i (480i) D2 video - 525p (480p)

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ac388 AVS Special Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 1,080	D1/D2 is the Japanese version of component.

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thedeskE AVS Special Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 2,039	Nice - guess the 1080P is for some mystic media? E

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apesma Member Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 90	ac388 $1600 US. More features than the 9500 but $500 less. I find that hard to believe.

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Kevin C Brown AVS Special Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Santa Clara, CA Posts: 3,190	Heck, no one even knows if the new BluRay and/or HD-DVD players will be able to play anything other than BluRay and/or HD-DVD discs. I bet it's quite a while until we see a high def universal player. So at least at the beginning, you will be forced to choose between at least BluRay and HD-DVD. Sorry, I'll wait. But I'll be enjoying pristeen std def DVD until that time. __________________ If it's not worth waiting until the last minute to do, then it's not worth doing. KevinVision 7.1 ...

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Kurtis Bahr Senior Member AVS GOLD CLUB MEMBER Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 471 Classified Rating: 100% (3)	Personally I'm happy with my 9500 as my display will not do 1080p, only 1080i. I'm also concerned with what the compression will look like. Hollywood really doesn't like homeowners to have a source as good as the theaters. Look at D-VHS. I have the players and tapes and it is the best HD format I've ever seen with my eyes, blows away upscaled DVD's. But only Fox supported it and it died as a format. If you ever saw it you would love it too but it is a tape format and searches are a real pain. Kurtis

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captain_video Rebel w/o applause Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Ellicott City, MD Posts: 1,168	ALL video tape formats are a pain but digital VHS is the worst. There's no search function available so finding an exact spot on the tape is a hit or miss proposition. The best you can hope for is to get somewhere in the vicinity. I used to have the Hughes D-VHS recorder with the Platinum DTV receiver. At the time it was the best recording device available for DTV and the only recorder anywhere that would record Dolby Digital audio. It was a real love/hate relationship that was quickly dissolved when the DirecTivos were introduced. I'll never go back to a tape format again after experiencing a DVR. Now I'm running two HDTivos and several standard definition models. It totally blows away any tape format for recording HDTV and even SD TV. It also outputs 1080i, 720p and 480p in addition to 480i and has an HDMI output, making it a perfect match for my Hitachi 60VS810 LCD RPTV. __________________ DVR hacker (all types) and fanatic now hooked on HTPCs (with Blu-Ray and six ATSC tuners) and an unRAID server with 11.5TB of storage and counting.