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11-27-05, 08:21 PM
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Funny but if the emergency calls for a low range player without the Faroudja upscaling chip, then this thread has no solution. I like the following low range players for that emergency:
Sony DVP-NS70H NeuNeo HVD2085 Samsung DVD-HD950 The NeuNeo and Samsung can also be considered for an upscaling over component emergency but I only recommend the HD950 for upscaling to 720p. Chris |
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11-27-05, 08:36 PM
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For DVI-I and component upscaling, also add the Momitsu and Snazio (which is currently an AVS Power Buy).
I own them both and have also tested the NeuNeo quite a bit. I prefer the Snazio because it can provide higher res at higher refresh (in addition to the easy 1080i/720p)... 1280x1024@60hz where the Momitsu maxes out around 960p@48hz. Plus the Snazio has HD .ts playback (and DivxHD and WMV HD...), but that'd further distract from your original emergency message. |
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11-27-05, 11:14 PM
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Actually, if you don't mind my saying so, more helpful would be some of the pros and cons with which the recommended players compare against each other. Or, if they compare too well, simply stating so.
I was able to arrive at your short list on my own, quite quickly. What I struggled with was trying to decide, for example, when the Oppo makes more sense vs the S77 and vice versa. The individual player threads have thousands of posts, so it is somewhat difficult to clean comparative pros and cons. I ordered the Oppo this weekend, however I still have no clear idea of what I gained and lost by not going with some of the other, similarly priced options instead. Just my 2 cents.... |
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11-27-05, 11:22 PM
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Anyone know if the Sony DVP-NS70H comes with an hdmi cable? Also how about an emergency list of quality 480p only players? I've heard some ppl say that the sony A10 series lcd rptv's use a pretty good internal scaler, and that a 480p player would suit them quite well. Am I off the mark on that one?
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11-28-05, 05:18 AM
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These upscaling players are not universally seen by all as an improvement. I believe it is accurate to say that with a majority of the people that have piddled around with them and tried to make a comparison, a slight improvement overall is seen. I could find no argument with anyone that prefers to use their HDTV display's internal scaler, just accept that is their opinion based on using their eyes. Chris |
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11-28-05, 03:25 PM
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I have a friend who has a high end Denon and it does no better IMHO than the Sony DVP-NS70H I just bought Saturday. Of course his is hooked to a LCD and mine to a DLP so that may account for the difference in PQ? The improvement I am seeing from my eyes is the slightly clearer picture and more vibrant colors! And since I got a good deal at CC with a price match and a %10 coupon I only paid $120.00 not to bad I don't think! Any one out there with the 70H and some settings suggestions? Anything I should absolutely be doing? I have it hooked by HDMI to my Panny Dlp and it looks pretty good. |
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11-28-05, 04:38 PM
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I had got both the Lg LDA 511 and the Sony DVP-NS70H and i return the sony because on my panasonic CT-30WX15 they looked the same but the sony didnt play DivX files and the LG played them great. So i would recommended the LG LDA 511. i personally dont see any upconversion from either players in my TV.
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11-30-05, 04:16 PM
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It looks like we may get STICKY STATUS for this thread.
Please feel free to post links for the players mentioned in your posts. If you wish, send me a PM and I will add your links to the 1st post of the thread. Also consider deleting any post that does not contribute to the informational nautre of this thread. Thanks |
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12-04-05, 03:46 PM
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How about the super highend performance on mid budget?
SDI mod'd Denon 1910 with Key Digital Blaster SDI to DVI/HDMI scaler for $1400.00 total. With the $50 off from JVB Christmas deal, you could do the 1920 and still stay under $1500 or there about and add DVD-A and SACD. This solution is also Region Free and HDCP free, and will scale to 1080P and even beyond at a quality beyond any upscaling player. Ken |
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12-04-05, 06:34 PM
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I agree Ken...
Once you are around a $1500 budget, a player/scaler-processor becomes a very inviting alternative. The various image controls available on the scaler are very compelling. I'm not sure SDI mods are the way to go when there are affordable 480i HDMI players available now. If you discount the some of scaler/processor controls, players like the OPPO 971H, 3910, 2910 can offer equal or superior image quality to some combinations. I found the OPPO 971H 720p PQ is superior to a Panny RP-91/SDI -> Iscan HD combination, advanced horz & vert scaling controls aside. When we start talking about newer HQV or similarly equipped scaler/processors, these SDI/HDMI player combinations look interesting again. |
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12-06-05, 08:50 AM
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12-06-05, 02:44 PM
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12-06-05, 02:54 PM
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If you could copy me on which players & links, I will make a section for them in the top post. cheers RJ ... |
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12-06-05, 03:29 PM
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Everyone of the 2310 chiped players should have an MB warning next to them on the top list.
The ones I have tried with MB on different displays so far are .. Denon 5900 Denon 3910 at 1080i....none at 720p Panasonic s-97 Zenith 318 The Oppo,Pany s-77,Denon 1910,2910 and all the other likely suspects should have this info added because it seems there are more displays that show MB... than those that do not. |
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12-06-05, 04:29 PM
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Yeah, I have an idle S97. Idle because of macroblockin (MB) and banding. People don't realize that Secrets tests are about deinterlacing - NOT PICTURE QUALITY.
 My Sony player has absolutely no banding. Looks better than my HTPC so I got the Sony SDI modded and use it with the Key Digital Blaster SDI->DVI converter/scaler. (~$1600 total for 400 discs online - not bad!) Ken |
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12-06-05, 08:40 PM
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I have added a warning as well as link to the Display/Player thread PooPoo started. ;-) It's unfortunate so many displays lack the proper video processing to work well with the FLI23xx players. Granted there are some FLI23xx players which show MB everywhere. Still, it's a great suggestion to add the warning because most of us commited to a display long before the purchase of a better DVD player was on our radar screens. Thanks |
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12-06-05, 10:06 PM
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here's a thread on upscaling via component on the Samsung 841
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=553559 larry
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12-06-05, 11:13 PM
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I also added the Zenith and Momitsu from your previous post. Let me know if there are any others. |
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12-07-05, 12:53 AM
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12-07-05, 12:51 PM
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I tried to have links of player search results, and the links fail to work now. So, I have deleted the (4) specific player searches you referenced. However, the search engine is a powerful tool newcomers should try. |
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12-08-05, 06:10 AM
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I would never buy a Sony, Panasonic....etc because they have a nasty old reputation for playing nothing but store bought dvd's, Apex 6 yr's ago set the world on fire with S/VCD, mp3 players that "play it all"
I still have a Apex AD703 3 disc that had awesome firmware hacks made by a guy named Jockey that enabled 10 different options....NEVER has been a great acheivement like that since!! I want a player that will do Mpeg-iso, Xvid/Avi,DVD±DL, upconvert, which the LG 511 Does it ALL, not since the Philips 642 came out 2-3 yrs ago that a player is truly a made for the internet age!! |
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