Philips 50PF7220A

IndyJim2000 · 01-22-06, 08:48 AM

I had the Vizio 42HD that was purchased at Costco and the DVI port went out on it 3 days after the manufacturers warranty expired. I was happy with the value of the unit and picture quality (I am by no means a video quality expert) but was happy it was purchased where it was. I returned it to Costco last week with the intent to swap out with another Vizio but unfortunately they did not have one in stock, 42" or 50". One of the employees mentioned the Philips that will be available next week ( 50PF7220A I think ). Because they do not have one in stock I couldn't see the quality and features in person. Does anyone know about this unit or have any experience with it or its sister version which is I believe is the 50PF7320A. Because I am w/o a television, I need to pull the trigger tomorrow and won't be able to spend alot of time researching like a did with my previus purchase. I know I have time to give it a home tryout but, man, these are big TV's and I don't want to schlep an unwise choice back to the store. Any advice would be appreciated.

NatasNJ · 01-22-06, 10:58 AM

The 7220 uses the same user manual as the 7320. So for all reasons one would think it is very similar to the 7320.

I plan to go look at it tomorrow and see how it looks.

NatasNJ · 01-23-06, 08:54 AM

*Bump*

Well the unit should be on sale today at Costco. Which means they should be displaying them. For anyone who gets a chance today or this week to go take a look at the unit please post your thoughts on it and if possible the comparison to the Visio & other 50" models on display at your local Costco.

I will go take a look around 11am. So I will post my feedback around noon.

elwood · 01-23-06, 09:06 AM

NatasNJ,

I saw one in a Costco Home yesterday -- I left some comments in the BB/CC/Costco thread (sticky) -- check out page 5 of the postings.

Brad

NatasNJ · 01-23-06, 09:16 AM

Thanks elwood..

So it looks comparable to the Panny to you and no glaring issues. Not a bad write up.
I thought they were not displaying them until today. If I like what I see this afternoon I will be owning one of these tonight. Not looking to getting it in my car though. UGH...

SaladShooter · 01-23-06, 09:39 AM

Are the speakers removable?.... I don't need them and they make the set look huge. I think its 55" long.

NatasNJ · 01-23-06, 09:44 AM

From what I have read the speakers are not removable..

kipg · 01-23-06, 10:43 AM

I purchased the 50" Zenith from CC last week w/ the rebate and the 10% off to replace a 42 Samsung I sold. Didn't buy the warranty. Wondering if maybe I should look at this unit for the satisfaction guarantee Costco has and return the Zenith. Television is only used for watching normal television....all DVD gets watched on projector.

mas985 · 01-23-06, 11:32 AM

I saw the Philips next to the Maxent MX-50X3 now being sold at Costco. The Philips by far had the clearer picture and the Maxent's color was way off (probably because of settings). I am seriously considering the Philips.

NatasNJ · 01-23-06, 11:37 AM

Just saw it. The Philips was hooked up via the output of a 20" Maxent TV from behind it. The cable was a re white yellow composite cable. So I assume a better connection would help the picture out more.

My impression is that though the colors were not spot on perfect they looked like with some adjustments they would look fine. It looked a tad dark and the skin tones were a bit (not real) but this is from a bad feed and no setting adjustments.

I figure for the price and size and features it is worth a shot at home. Plan on picking up tonight. I can post a full review in about 2 weeks. (still waiting for HDTV upgrade)

elwood · 01-23-06, 12:14 PM

I was lucky because Tempe, AZ has a Costco Home store next to their Costco Warehouse store. The Home store had the Philips on display.

Brad

Docg · 01-23-06, 01:19 PM

Picked my philips today and it getting his brackets put on it right now. Just remember you might have to use the stand holes to mount becaues they are closer. The holes for philips were to wide for my universal mount.

NatasNJ · 01-23-06, 01:20 PM

Which mount did you get?

Name?

jebb · 01-23-06, 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatasNJ

Just saw it. The Philips was hooked up via the output of a 20" Maxent TV from behind it. The cable was a re white yellow composite cable. So I assume a better connection would help the picture out more.

My impression is that though the colors were not spot on perfect they looked like with some adjustments they would look fine. It looked a tad dark and the skin tones were a bit (not real) but this is from a bad feed and no setting adjustments.

I figure for the price and size and features it is worth a shot at home. Plan on picking up tonight. I can post a full review in about 2 weeks. (still waiting for HDTV upgrade)

Regarding your waiting for the HDTV upgrade, doesn't the 7220 have the HDTV tuner built in, or did I misunderstand your comment?

Also, does anyone know how many AV inputs the 7220 has. I have regular cable with no box (offered free in my facility), and will just use the local HD signal OTA, therefore with my Tivo, regular cable, VCR, DVD, and OTA HD antenna (presumably), I will need 5 (me thinks). Any comments on the futility of this? Also, am I correct in that I will still need an external antenna to receive the HD signal?

Thanks in advance for the advice. Hopefully it's good so I can get with the 21st century and have this on my wall by 8 pm Houston time tonite.

NatasNJ · 01-23-06, 02:05 PM

HDTV upgrade meaning Directv DVR and new OTA antenna. I need a new dish and all to receive my HDTV.

I can try the built in tuner but don't plan to use that anyway. Can't bypass the TIVO. hard to watch TV live now a days.

Docg · 01-23-06, 02:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NatasNJ

Which mount did you get?

Name?

I purchased my mount from net mounts on ebay. It is the universal mega tilt.

Muskeg · 01-23-06, 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jebb

Also, does anyone know how many AV inputs the 7220 has.

Loads.

http://www.consumer.philips.com/cons...ESHP3HKFSEKI5P

IndyJim2000 · 01-23-06, 04:15 PM

I went ahead and picked one up this morning. Man, this thing is big and it wouldn't fit in the back of a 06 Pathfinder (how embarassing, always have friends with bigger trucks you can call). The store didn't have one hooked up yet with a feed, just the floor model that was just out of the box turned off. The speakers look removeable but are not. That is all I can add at this point until I run some cables to hook up to the DirecTV SD feed. Ot a bad looking TV from an aesthetics standpoint, although I am kind of over the silver painted plastic thing. The Vizio 50" with the silver combo and black outline looks better to my eye. My plan for right now is to continue to run my DirectTV Tivo SD feed and use the built in HD for OTA sports until I have the time to upgrade to HD for SAT. I will post my impressions as I go through hooking this thing up but I am by no means an expert. Plan to spend some time on these boards learining about break in time, etc.

elwood · 01-23-06, 05:27 PM

Agh, 0nly 3 left. 6 already sold. My wife's on her way down to claim one for me now.

Brad

trailingedge · 01-23-06, 05:27 PM

I picked up the Philips 50PF7220A this morning. The picture looked terrible, but the feed was through the coaxial input with the set tuned to channel 3. I'm hoping that it will look much better when connected properly. But I have to admit, if the picture I saw at Costco is indicative of the SD picture quality, it was quite unimpressive. I hope others chime in with their impressions of the PQ relative to other plasmas on display.

The 42-inch Philips *was* hooked up via component cables, and the PQ was much better. But of course this was a true HD feed. It was sitting next to the Vizio P50. The color depth did not match the Vizio IMHO.

cweigand · 01-23-06, 05:47 PM

Hi-- Brought home the TV from Costco this morning and still playing around w/ all the setting. I only have the digital cable from comast and my DVD player is hooked up s- video. If anyone has tips I'd love to hear them-- also can't I get HD over the air w/ a antenna? Thanks Christie

elwood · 01-23-06, 05:49 PM

I can relax -- she got the last one (boxed, that is). Now to start planning the wall mount, furniture and cabling. Let the fun begin...

Brad

Muskeg · 01-23-06, 05:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cweigand

Hi-- Brought home the TV from Costco this morning and still playing around w/ all the setting. I only have the digital cable from comast and my DVD player is hooked up s- video. If anyone has tips I'd love to hear them-- also can't I get HD over the air w/ a antenna? Thanks Christie

Hook your dvd player up via component cables, or HDMI (if you player has it) and SMILE.

nellee · 01-23-06, 05:55 PM

My wife just picked up the Philips this morning at Costco. She was going to pick me up during my lunch hour to pick it up but she thought it was going to sellout due to the special this week.

She picked it up, helpers could not get it into our Mecedes ML suv with the box so they had to take it out of the box. THe height of the trunk opening is 37 inches so for those looking to pick this set up as well, that won't fit with the box.

It's currently sitting in the suv in our garage until I get home to get it into the house.

She went right when the warehouse opened, they had 12 in stock (which I also confirmed last week to make sure they had them) and when she left, she only saw like 6 left.

rodgermorales · 01-23-06, 06:02 PM

elwood,

I am in the same position as you - getting this tv for the wife so she can watch television plus I am in the phoenix area. which store did you go to if i may ask?

Thanks!

elwood · 01-23-06, 06:16 PM

rodgermorales,

She picked it up at the new Chandler costco, but the other one on Arizona avenue was also supposed to have 9.

Good luck,
Brad

staufj22 · 01-23-06, 06:24 PM

Was at the Costco at 10:30 this morning. I can already see 3 being loaded into various cars.
I ran to look for those flat-bed cart and rushed to claim one. When I was in line, I saw 2 other people with it behind me.
Its like a mad rush for the TV. 6 sold in 45 minutes.

Anyways, I went home, hooked it up to my HD Tivo, I only had the composit cable available at the time, and it was on the Spike network. The picture looked pretty bad. I also noticed this pink line on the right side of the screen, ran about 1/4 of the way down. I keep switching inputs to see what was the cause. I even tried hooking it up to component cable, the pink line was still there.

For some reason, after having it on for like 5 minuts, the pink line went away. Does anyone know what it was?

Does anyone have a stand recommendation? I'm putting it in a corner.. so I can't wall mount it. I wonder if Costco has any stand that'll fit this.

cweigand · 01-23-06, 06:31 PM

I don't have any "componet cables"-- I do have 3 RCA type that I can use is that the same? I just connected a cheap OTA and the HD channels look great. My husband and I are going snowboarding tomorrow until sat. - I can't wait to get home to play / the tv! Glad I got to Costco at 10am im JAX! Take care
Christie

rodgermorales · 01-23-06, 06:36 PM

elwood,
chandler is sold out and I think superstition springs is down to 3. the costco near me has 6 but I i drove the sedan today. Funny how scarcity is making this tv so much more appealing to me. I know 3 others who looking to buy this one as well.

NatasNJ · 01-23-06, 06:52 PM

Got mine. After dinner I will hookup and try an OTA for now. (Since my HDTV Direct guy won't be here for a week) I hope my local Radio shack has something for me to play with until then.

That thing is heavy..

I agree with the post above stating it better look better in house than the store cause I was not sold byt the display in the store. Then again I thought all the TV's looked bad in Costco.

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IndyJim2000 New Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9	Philips 50PF7220A I had the Vizio 42HD that was purchased at Costco and the DVI port went out on it 3 days after the manufacturers warranty expired. I was happy with the value of the unit and picture quality (I am by no means a video quality expert) but was happy it was purchased where it was. I returned it to Costco last week with the intent to swap out with another Vizio but unfortunately they did not have one in stock, 42" or 50". One of the employees mentioned the Philips that will be available next week ( 50PF7220A I think ). Because they do not have one in stock I couldn't see the quality and features in person. Does anyone know about this unit or have any experience with it or its sister version which is I believe is the 50PF7320A. Because I am w/o a television, I need to pull the trigger tomorrow and won't be able to spend alot of time researching like a did with my previus purchase. I know I have time to give it a home tryout but, man, these are big TV's and I don't want to schlep an unwise choice back to the store. Any advice would be appreciated.

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NatasNJ Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 146	Thanks elwood.. So it looks comparable to the Panny to you and no glaring issues. Not a bad write up. I thought they were not displaying them until today. If I like what I see this afternoon I will be owning one of these tonight. Not looking to getting it in my car though. UGH...

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NatasNJ Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 146	Just saw it. The Philips was hooked up via the output of a 20" Maxent TV from behind it. The cable was a re white yellow composite cable. So I assume a better connection would help the picture out more. My impression is that though the colors were not spot on perfect they looked like with some adjustments they would look fine. It looked a tad dark and the skin tones were a bit (not real) but this is from a bad feed and no setting adjustments. I figure for the price and size and features it is worth a shot at home. Plan on picking up tonight. I can post a full review in about 2 weeks. (still waiting for HDTV upgrade)

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NatasNJ Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 146	HDTV upgrade meaning Directv DVR and new OTA antenna. I need a new dish and all to receive my HDTV. I can try the built in tuner but don't plan to use that anyway. Can't bypass the TIVO. hard to watch TV live now a days.

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cweigand New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10	Settings?? Hi-- Brought home the TV from Costco this morning and still playing around w/ all the setting. I only have the digital cable from comast and my DVD player is hooked up s- video. If anyone has tips I'd love to hear them-- also can't I get HD over the air w/ a antenna? Thanks Christie

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NatasNJ Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 146	The 7220 uses the same user manual as the 7320. So for all reasons one would think it is very similar to the 7320. I plan to go look at it tomorrow and see how it looks.

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NatasNJ Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 146	Bump Well the unit should be on sale today at Costco. Which means they should be displaying them. For anyone who gets a chance today or this week to go take a look at the unit please post your thoughts on it and if possible the comparison to the Visio & other 50" models on display at your local Costco. I will go take a look around 11am. So I will post my feedback around noon.

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elwood Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 56	NatasNJ, I saw one in a Costco Home yesterday -- I left some comments in the BB/CC/Costco thread (sticky) -- check out page 5 of the postings. Brad

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SaladShooter Fishing Fanatic Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Connecticut, USA Posts: 117	Are the speakers removable?.... I don't need them and they make the set look huge. I think its 55" long.

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NatasNJ Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 146	From what I have read the speakers are not removable..

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kipg Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 70	I purchased the 50" Zenith from CC last week w/ the rebate and the 10% off to replace a 42 Samsung I sold. Didn't buy the warranty. Wondering if maybe I should look at this unit for the satisfaction guarantee Costco has and return the Zenith. Television is only used for watching normal television....all DVD gets watched on projector.

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mas985 Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Pleasanton, CA Posts: 41	I saw the Philips next to the Maxent MX-50X3 now being sold at Costco. The Philips by far had the clearer picture and the Maxent's color was way off (probably because of settings). I am seriously considering the Philips.

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elwood Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 56	I was lucky because Tempe, AZ has a Costco Home store next to their Costco Warehouse store. The Home store had the Philips on display. Brad

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Docg Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 27	Picked my philips today and it getting his brackets put on it right now. Just remember you might have to use the stand holes to mount becaues they are closer. The holes for philips were to wide for my universal mount.

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NatasNJ Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 146	Which mount did you get? Name?

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IndyJim2000 New Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 9	I went ahead and picked one up this morning. Man, this thing is big and it wouldn't fit in the back of a 06 Pathfinder (how embarassing, always have friends with bigger trucks you can call). The store didn't have one hooked up yet with a feed, just the floor model that was just out of the box turned off. The speakers look removeable but are not. That is all I can add at this point until I run some cables to hook up to the DirecTV SD feed. Ot a bad looking TV from an aesthetics standpoint, although I am kind of over the silver painted plastic thing. The Vizio 50" with the silver combo and black outline looks better to my eye. My plan for right now is to continue to run my DirectTV Tivo SD feed and use the built in HD for OTA sports until I have the time to upgrade to HD for SAT. I will post my impressions as I go through hooking this thing up but I am by no means an expert. Plan to spend some time on these boards learining about break in time, etc.

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elwood Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 56	Agh, 0nly 3 left. 6 already sold. My wife's on her way down to claim one for me now. Brad

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trailingedge Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 39	I picked up the Philips 50PF7220A this morning. The picture looked terrible, but the feed was through the coaxial input with the set tuned to channel 3. I'm hoping that it will look much better when connected properly. But I have to admit, if the picture I saw at Costco is indicative of the SD picture quality, it was quite unimpressive. I hope others chime in with their impressions of the PQ relative to other plasmas on display. The 42-inch Philips was hooked up via component cables, and the PQ was much better. But of course this was a true HD feed. It was sitting next to the Vizio P50. The color depth did not match the Vizio IMHO.

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elwood Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 56	I can relax -- she got the last one (boxed, that is). Now to start planning the wall mount, furniture and cabling. Let the fun begin... Brad

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nellee Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 47	My wife just picked up the Philips this morning at Costco. She was going to pick me up during my lunch hour to pick it up but she thought it was going to sellout due to the special this week. She picked it up, helpers could not get it into our Mecedes ML suv with the box so they had to take it out of the box. THe height of the trunk opening is 37 inches so for those looking to pick this set up as well, that won't fit with the box. It's currently sitting in the suv in our garage until I get home to get it into the house. She went right when the warehouse opened, they had 12 in stock (which I also confirmed last week to make sure they had them) and when she left, she only saw like 6 left.

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rodgermorales Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 25	elwood, I am in the same position as you - getting this tv for the wife so she can watch television plus I am in the phoenix area. which store did you go to if i may ask? Thanks!

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elwood Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 56	rodgermorales, She picked it up at the new Chandler costco, but the other one on Arizona avenue was also supposed to have 9. Good luck, Brad

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staufj22 New Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 7	Was at the Costco at 10:30 this morning. I can already see 3 being loaded into various cars. I ran to look for those flat-bed cart and rushed to claim one. When I was in line, I saw 2 other people with it behind me. Its like a mad rush for the TV. 6 sold in 45 minutes. Anyways, I went home, hooked it up to my HD Tivo, I only had the composit cable available at the time, and it was on the Spike network. The picture looked pretty bad. I also noticed this pink line on the right side of the screen, ran about 1/4 of the way down. I keep switching inputs to see what was the cause. I even tried hooking it up to component cable, the pink line was still there. For some reason, after having it on for like 5 minuts, the pink line went away. Does anyone know what it was? Does anyone have a stand recommendation? I'm putting it in a corner.. so I can't wall mount it. I wonder if Costco has any stand that'll fit this.

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cweigand New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10	Componet? I don't have any "componet cables"-- I do have 3 RCA type that I can use is that the same? I just connected a cheap OTA and the HD channels look great. My husband and I are going snowboarding tomorrow until sat. - I can't wait to get home to play / the tv! Glad I got to Costco at 10am im JAX! Take care Christie

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rodgermorales Member Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 25	elwood, chandler is sold out and I think superstition springs is down to 3. the costco near me has 6 but I i drove the sedan today. Funny how scarcity is making this tv so much more appealing to me. I know 3 others who looking to buy this one as well.

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NatasNJ Member Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 146	Got mine. After dinner I will hookup and try an OTA for now. (Since my HDTV Direct guy won't be here for a week) I hope my local Radio shack has something for me to play with until then. That thing is heavy.. I agree with the post above stating it better look better in house than the store cause I was not sold byt the display in the store. Then again I thought all the TV's looked bad in Costco.