Auralex Subdude a MUST HAVE!!

Capfacsurf · 02-13-06, 04:13 PM

I have a beast of a sub on the third floor of my townhome. On the advice of some members here, I ordered an Auralex Subdude from Sweetwater.com.

I have never gotten more bang (slam) for the buck than what I got from the Subdude. Freakin' amazing improvement in sound. Areas in an upstairs loft no longer resonate. My wet bar no longer rattles. My cat stopped pissing the carpet during action movies. Music is much better too. I actually can differentiate between a kick drum and the bass line now. I can't rave enough about the improvement.

These things are an amazing improvement for ANYONE who has a sub on a plywood/carpet floor. You will not find another way to blow $50 that provides as much improvement as the Subdude.

MIkeDuke · 02-13-06, 04:44 PM

I agree. When I added one for my SW900 there was a definite upgrade in sound. Not that it was "boomy" before, but it really helped to tighten it up. Well worth the money.
And my sub fires down onto a base plate and it still worked good.

Yosh70 · 02-13-06, 05:36 PM

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Areas in an upstairs loft no longer resonate. My wet bar no longer rattles. My cat stopped pissing the carpet during action movies.

Well, wheres the fun in that?

Capfacsurf · 02-13-06, 05:43 PM

Problem is, with all this 90 degree weather here in So Cal, the cat smell was getting overwhelming. Where are the damn air conditioning people when you need 'em, eh?

Jason Yeo · 02-13-06, 10:13 PM

Any difference from the Auralex GRAMMA?

kweezr · 02-13-06, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Yeo

Any difference from the Auralex GRAMMA?

just the colors, everything else is the same

Jason Yeo · 02-13-06, 10:20 PM

Thanks .

meat_rocket · 02-14-06, 08:22 AM

Any ways to custom make one that will fit exactly to my sub? It seems the length will be a little too long for me and will have some overhang. Will a custom piece of granite/marble work just as well?

the crane · 02-14-06, 08:48 AM

Agreed, my VTF3-MKII is much tighter after adding the subdude. Having the sub in the corner with a 120 inch picture window behind, rattling was a huge issue. The subdude didn't eliminate the rattles, but greatly reduced them. Well worth the small cash output.

lexa695 · 02-14-06, 09:03 AM

Have any of you tried spikes?

oliverlim · 02-14-06, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by kweezr

just the colors, everything else is the same

I always wonder why they do that? Are the dimensions exactly the same?

Jason - No need la. You can start watching your stocked up movies already =p

Oliver

Jake04Goat · 02-14-06, 09:34 AM

Would the difference be noticeable on a hardwood/pergo floor or not as much?

warpdrive · 02-14-06, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by lexa695

Have any of you tried spikes?

Yes, but this Auralex is MUCH better. It really dampens the vibrations transferred to a weak or resonant floor.

I agree with the title, the Subdude/Gramma is a must have especially if you have wood floors.

kweezr · 02-14-06, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by oliverlim

I always wonder why they do that? Are the dimensions exactly the same?

Oliver

Exactly!

Before I purchased one I contacted Auralex to find out if they could make custom sizes, their answer.....NO!

It needs to be about 4in longer and wider to fully support my PB12-ultra/2.

warpdrive · 02-14-06, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by oliverlim

I always wonder why they do that? Are the dimensions exactly the same?

It's just cosmetics. One model has garish writing and labelling, and the other is toned down for best WAF. I have the Gramma, and I sort of wished I bought the Subdude just because it does look kind of cheesy.

Kal Rubinson · 02-14-06, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by kweezr

Exactly!

Before I purchased one I contacted Auralex to find out if they could make custom sizes, their answer.....NO!

It needs to be about 4in longer and wider to fully support my PB12-ultra/2.

I use two under my Servo-15.

Kal

Tom Grooms · 02-14-06, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kweezr

....It needs to be about 4in longer and wider to fully support my PB12-ultra/2.

Why, It works fine for me!

BobL · 02-14-06, 12:22 PM

I've put one under a PB/12 Ultra 2 in an installation with hardwood floors and it was fine. With the weight of that sub you don't need to woory about it tipping.

Bob

Capfacsurf · 02-14-06, 12:36 PM

After I put the Subdude in, I was able to increase the sub volume, via an SMS-1, from 7 to 13 and still keep a relatively flat curve from 20hz on out. I was suprised that the Subdude was a perfect fit for my M&K MPS 5410. This is the pro version of the MX 5000, so anyone with that sub or an MX 350 (I think) will have a fit so good it looks custom built.

MIkeDuke · 02-14-06, 12:42 PM

It is just about a perfect fit for my sub as well. And I am able to "juice" my setup a bit also. It is a keeper. And if need be, just get 2.

MRL · 02-14-06, 12:48 PM

I had the grammer under a PB12+2 and it was about 2" shy under around all sides but held the thing perfectly and kind of looked neat as you could not see much of it. Works great. I now have it under an Ultra and it still works great.

Capfacsurf · 02-14-06, 01:04 PM

Jake04Goat,

You asked about Pergo floors. I would think the determining factor would be what is under the Pergo. If it is a concrete sub floor, then perhaps it won't make a huge difference. If it is a wooden subfloor with standard wooden framing covered by a plywood sub floor, it should do quite a lot for you. If you experience rattles and buzzing in different parts of your room, or have loud resonance issues in adjacent rooms, the Subdude will help.

Capfacsurf · 02-14-06, 01:08 PM

My experience here in Los Angeles was that it was impossible to find a Subdude stocked locally, but the Gamma, or Gramma's were a lot easier to find. Had I known that they were basically the same............

capecodorthopod · 02-14-06, 01:27 PM

Capfacsurf,
Well well, it seems you took my advice from your earlier thread and got the subdude. Glad you like it, do I get that week in Nag's Head for this or do I still have to fix your shoulder?

yellowsubmarine · 02-14-06, 01:40 PM

Okay, my interest is peaked in getting a subdude now... But how does it decouple the sub from the floor? Is the subdude made out of stiff foam that prevents vibrations from reaching the floor? Or is there more too it than that?

I used to have 2 polk PSW-350 subwoofers, I stacked them on top of each other and put a slightly inflated 12" bicycle inner tube under the bottom, after reading about it on this forum. I haven't tried that with my new 20-39 PC+ SVS.

Will this have the same effect as a subdude in decoupling the sub from the floor? The one thing I am concerned about is that since the sub is downward firing, it may tend to bounce on the inner tube, and may make the sound even worse. What do you guys think?

Oh, I know some would say just spend the $50 to try it, but the dimensions of the subdude will not work for me. If it had a 16" square foot print on the floor, I'd get it, but space is a premium for me and I don't want that big of a platform. Can it be cut down, or any suggestions on how to make my own?

Mike

Capfacsurf · 02-14-06, 01:43 PM

Ha! Yes, I took your advice. And didn't even give you a footnote....

As far as the shoulder, I am going to have BOTH done on March 8th, by Carlos Guanche. He did my son's hip, and so far, so good. I will PM you a link to the house in Nags Head.

DNbass · 02-14-06, 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kal Rubinson

I use two under my Servo-15.

Kal

I use only one...there's less footprint...I was surprise the Sub does not budge even though the sub "feet" don't fit entirely on the subdude.

MIkeDuke · 02-14-06, 01:53 PM

YellowS,
First my sub fires down onto a base plate and I have had no ill affects whatsoever.
I am not sure if it is "foam" but it is certainly some sort of material other then standard carpet on wood.
http://www.auralexelite.com/sound_is...on_subdude.asp
The main site for the subdue, but if you do a search on it, you can find alot of info on it

capecodorthopod · 02-14-06, 02:18 PM

Cap,
Thanks for the PM but I didn't get the link. Good luck on the surgery, if you have any questions pre or post op drop me a PM.
Tim

Kal Rubinson · 02-14-06, 02:57 PM

Here's my take:
http://www.stereophile.com/musicinth...itr/index.html

Kal

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Capfacsurf Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Malibu / Nags Head Posts: 741	Auralex Subdude a MUST HAVE!! I have a beast of a sub on the third floor of my townhome. On the advice of some members here, I ordered an Auralex Subdude from Sweetwater.com. I have never gotten more bang (slam) for the buck than what I got from the Subdude. Freakin' amazing improvement in sound. Areas in an upstairs loft no longer resonate. My wet bar no longer rattles. My cat stopped pissing the carpet during action movies. Music is much better too. I actually can differentiate between a kick drum and the bass line now. I can't rave enough about the improvement. These things are an amazing improvement for ANYONE who has a sub on a plywood/carpet floor. You will not find another way to blow $50 that provides as much improvement as the Subdude.

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MIkeDuke No Hype For Me Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: eastern PA Posts: 3,191	I agree. When I added one for my SW900 there was a definite upgrade in sound. Not that it was "boomy" before, but it really helped to tighten it up. Well worth the money. And my sub fires down onto a base plate and it still worked good. __________________ The difference between fiction and the truth is fiction has to make sense. My System

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the crane Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: Aurora, IL Posts: 415	Agreed, my VTF3-MKII is much tighter after adding the subdude. Having the sub in the corner with a 120 inch picture window behind, rattling was a huge issue. The subdude didn't eliminate the rattles, but greatly reduced them. Well worth the small cash output. __________________ I Golf

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lexa695 A/V Aesthetic Junkie Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in New York Posts: 1,971	Have any of you tried spikes? __________________ OK, so why again do we need a bigger one?

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Capfacsurf Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Malibu / Nags Head Posts: 741	Problem is, with all this 90 degree weather here in So Cal, the cat smell was getting overwhelming. Where are the damn air conditioning people when you need 'em, eh?

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Jason Yeo Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Singapore Posts: 273	Thanks .

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meat_rocket Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 191	Any ways to custom make one that will fit exactly to my sub? It seems the length will be a little too long for me and will have some overhang. Will a custom piece of granite/marble work just as well?

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Jake04Goat Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 98	Would the difference be noticeable on a hardwood/pergo floor or not as much?

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BobL AVS Special Member Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Westfield, Ma Posts: 2,065	I've put one under a PB/12 Ultra 2 in an installation with hardwood floors and it was fine. With the weight of that sub you don't need to woory about it tipping. Bob

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Capfacsurf Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Malibu / Nags Head Posts: 741	After I put the Subdude in, I was able to increase the sub volume, via an SMS-1, from 7 to 13 and still keep a relatively flat curve from 20hz on out. I was suprised that the Subdude was a perfect fit for my M&K MPS 5410. This is the pro version of the MX 5000, so anyone with that sub or an MX 350 (I think) will have a fit so good it looks custom built.

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MIkeDuke No Hype For Me Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: eastern PA Posts: 3,191	It is just about a perfect fit for my sub as well. And I am able to "juice" my setup a bit also. It is a keeper. And if need be, just get 2. __________________ The difference between fiction and the truth is fiction has to make sense. My System

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MRL AVS Special Member Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: PDX, USA Posts: 1,148	I had the grammer under a PB12+2 and it was about 2" shy under around all sides but held the thing perfectly and kind of looked neat as you could not see much of it. Works great. I now have it under an Ultra and it still works great.

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Capfacsurf Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Malibu / Nags Head Posts: 741	Jake04Goat, You asked about Pergo floors. I would think the determining factor would be what is under the Pergo. If it is a concrete sub floor, then perhaps it won't make a huge difference. If it is a wooden subfloor with standard wooden framing covered by a plywood sub floor, it should do quite a lot for you. If you experience rattles and buzzing in different parts of your room, or have loud resonance issues in adjacent rooms, the Subdude will help.

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Capfacsurf Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Malibu / Nags Head Posts: 741	My experience here in Los Angeles was that it was impossible to find a Subdude stocked locally, but the Gamma, or Gramma's were a lot easier to find. Had I known that they were basically the same............

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capecodorthopod Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: cape cod Posts: 770	Capfacsurf, Well well, it seems you took my advice from your earlier thread and got the subdude. Glad you like it, do I get that week in Nag's Head for this or do I still have to fix your shoulder?

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yellowsubmarine Clueless Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: St. Louis(Ofallon, MO) Posts: 213	Okay, my interest is peaked in getting a subdude now... But how does it decouple the sub from the floor? Is the subdude made out of stiff foam that prevents vibrations from reaching the floor? Or is there more too it than that? I used to have 2 polk PSW-350 subwoofers, I stacked them on top of each other and put a slightly inflated 12" bicycle inner tube under the bottom, after reading about it on this forum. I haven't tried that with my new 20-39 PC+ SVS. Will this have the same effect as a subdude in decoupling the sub from the floor? The one thing I am concerned about is that since the sub is downward firing, it may tend to bounce on the inner tube, and may make the sound even worse. What do you guys think? Oh, I know some would say just spend the $50 to try it, but the dimensions of the subdude will not work for me. If it had a 16" square foot print on the floor, I'd get it, but space is a premium for me and I don't want that big of a platform. Can it be cut down, or any suggestions on how to make my own? Mike

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Capfacsurf Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Malibu / Nags Head Posts: 741	Ha! Yes, I took your advice. And didn't even give you a footnote.... As far as the shoulder, I am going to have BOTH done on March 8th, by Carlos Guanche. He did my son's hip, and so far, so good. I will PM you a link to the house in Nags Head.

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MIkeDuke No Hype For Me Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: eastern PA Posts: 3,191	YellowS, First my sub fires down onto a base plate and I have had no ill affects whatsoever. I am not sure if it is "foam" but it is certainly some sort of material other then standard carpet on wood. http://www.auralexelite.com/sound_is...on_subdude.asp The main site for the subdue, but if you do a search on it, you can find alot of info on it __________________ The difference between fiction and the truth is fiction has to make sense. My System

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capecodorthopod Advanced Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: cape cod Posts: 770	Cap, Thanks for the PM but I didn't get the link. Good luck on the surgery, if you have any questions pre or post op drop me a PM. Tim

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Kal Rubinson AVS Addicted Member Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: NYC + Connecticut Posts: 20,445	Here's my take: http://www.stereophile.com/musicinth...itr/index.html Kal __________________ Kal Rubinson "Music in the Round" Contributing Editor, Stereophile www.stereophile.com/musicintheround/