what video card can do 1366x768 rez?

Zodiacal · 03-16-06, 03:52 PM

anyone know what video card can do 1366x768 resolution via dvi? i wanta match my hdtv's native resolution. i have a sony KDF-E55A20

almostinsane · 03-16-06, 06:02 PM

It's usually a limitation of the display. The EDID value your display sends the card will usually limit your resolution choises. If you run Moninfo you will find out what the limitations are.

Zodiacal · 03-16-06, 06:04 PM

anyone know the cheapest card to get for this setup?

SpHeRe31459 · 03-16-06, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zodiacal

anyone know the cheapest card to get for this setup?

almostinsane is right, it isn't just the video card, the display also has to tell your PC that it supports 1366x768, many don't send that timing data (and don't accept even when forced either) because they assume it will be connected to standard consumer equipment (which of course comply with the standard resolutions like 720p or 1080i).

Anyway a GeForce 6 or 7 series as well as the new ATI X1000 series should be able to do it via DVI.

jmonier · 03-16-06, 06:39 PM

The current NVidia drivers allow you to bypass the EDID. Uncheck "Hide resolutions that this monitor does not support". There is also an "Advanced Timing" option. I use these to get 1366x768 on my PLV-70 that reports only 1024x768 via EDID.

The 6600GT has hardware features that unload the CPU especially for HD playback when used with the NVidia PureVideo decoder. (Note that the 6800GT does NOT have the same features.) If you have a PCI-E mobo, the 7600GT adds some more features for HD de-interlacing.

almostinsane · 03-16-06, 07:39 PM

That doesn't mean the monitor will accept the custom res. Most displays on accept HDTV standards over hdmi.

Zodiacal · 03-16-06, 07:40 PM

if that is the case, anyone know know of a video card that can output in component as well as dvi? p.s. my tv only has hdmi, i have a cable that converts dvi to hdmi... if that matters...

SpHeRe31459 · 03-16-06, 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zodiacal

if that is the case, anyone know know of a video card that can output in component as well as dvi? p.s. my tv only has hdmi, i have a cable that converts dvi to hdmi... if that matters...

The cards recommended earlier also do component output, but they won't do 1366x768 over component. 1366x768 is only possible over DVI and sometimes VGA.

mnn1265 · 03-17-06, 02:03 AM

My Sony HS20 projection TV has an error in the EDID that was mentioned earlier in this thread. Using the "hide" feature does not allow output of 1366x768 because there are only descrite resolution setting allowed in "computer" or "Video GBR" mode over DVI/HDMI. The best I've managed is 1176x664 (after adjusting for overscan) at 60Hz due to these limitations. It seems the TV's just weren't designed for good support of those resolutions. Hopefully with newer models they'll start to think of HTPC users...

Favelle · 03-17-06, 07:19 AM

I run THREE 32" LCD panels from 1) a 5500FX 2) a 6800GT, and 3) from a 7800GTX, and they ALL support 1366 x 768. Its just THAT easy. Even the cheapo 6200GS and all those $50 nVidia cards will do 1366 x 768. You might have to do 1368 x 768, but you won't notice a difference.

Favelle · 03-17-06, 02:16 PM

And I am using DVI for ALL my connections. When I didn't have my 3rd panel, I was using one of the LCD's for two of my computers and I had to use the VGA output for the Geforce 5500. And it STILL looked the exact same and worked fine.

Zodiacal · 03-27-06, 06:40 PM

you guys think the following cards can handle 1366 x 768 resolutions?

1.) ati radeon 7500
2.) NVIDIA Quadro NVS 50 PCI 64Mb DVI w/TV-Out
3.) 128mb ATI Saphire PCI Video Card, DVI and VGA output

johnmiddle · 04-06-06, 05:17 PM

hi, i just got my new panasonic 50PX60U, i have one big Q now, i use it with my PC, and i cannot set the resolution to anything higher than 1280*720. i am using ATI RADEON 7000 series, it does not have the exact 1366*768, but have many others all the way to 2048*1536.
so does anyone know how i can use higher resolution? isn't it suppose to be better to feed in 1280*768 other than 1280*720, since the panel itself is 768? i am also interested in the 1920*1080, since the manual said it supports 1080p signal....

or does anyone know where is the better place/thread to ask about this?
Thanks!

Zodiacal · 04-06-06, 05:21 PM

are you guys sure component can't except 1366x768? if it can, do i have to buy a transcoding device or can i just buy a dvi to component cable?

mterzich · 04-06-06, 05:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zodiacal

anyone know the cheapest card to get for this setup?

The NVIDIA FX5200 (eg. Diamond Stealth S90 GeForce FX 5200 / 128MB / AGP 8X / VGA / DVI / TV Out) will work. ATI cards have problems when working with HDMI (still requires PowerStrip).

Both the NVIDIA and ATI cards normally will not get bootup screens when working with HDMI. I think this is caused by the lack of certain resolutions and frequencies on the HDTVs HDMI interface required during boot up. A DVI to DVI connection usually works 100% correctly. The lack of boot up screens is common to most HDTVs when using the HDMI interface. It occurs on both my Sharp 45" LCD and Sony 34" CRT using either NVIDIA or ATI cards. It has also been reported by others on the forum.

Also your HDTVs HDMI port may only support 1280x720 instead of 1366x768 since that is not a HDTV resolution.

Zodiacal · 04-06-06, 05:46 PM

anyone know if a ati radeon 7000 dvi-i port can do YpbPr?

mterzich · 04-06-06, 05:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zodiacal

anyone know if a ati radeon 7000 dvi-i port can do YpbPr?

The digital part of the output should which goes to digital DVI or HDMI. The analog should be RGB which normally goes to VGA and not component. Although, I could be wrong and the analog could be YCbCr.

Zodiacal · 04-06-06, 05:55 PM

so since its RGB i can't connect it to my component connections on my HDTV? do you know of a video card off hand that outputs in the right format?

mterzich · 04-06-06, 05:57 PM

Why do you want to use component instead of HDMI?

Zodiacal · 04-06-06, 05:58 PM

hdmi restricts inputs to only 1280x720, my hdtv's native resolution is 1366x768... know of any video cards off hand?

mterzich · 04-06-06, 06:02 PM

1366x768 probably will not work on either one since neither is desigend for a PC interface. Typically component and HDMI are only designed for HDTV signals. DVI and VGA are designed to support most XGA and WXGA resolutions.

Zodiacal · 04-06-06, 06:04 PM

i found one, ati radeon 9500 supports what i need.

mterzich · 04-06-06, 06:08 PM

Usually, the only way to support non HDTV resolutions through component or HDMI would be to fudge it. As example, select 1920x1080 and then underscan it to 1366x768 and then stretch it. I don't know how well that would work. Also due to overscan issues anyway, it's almost impossible to get the exact resolution on HDMI or component even if the native resolution is 1280x720. Usually there is overscan and that has to be adjusted to reduce the resolution anyway.

johnmiddle · 04-06-06, 09:08 PM

I got both the 1920*1080 and 1280*768 work on my panny 50 now, but both have the overscan problem. i didnt try powerstrip yet. since mostly i watch movies only, so a little bit overscan is ok with me. But why does the TV always have the overscan problem? why cannt it shink the signal? do we have to use powerstrip to feed in several more lines to get over it?

mterzich · 04-06-06, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by johnmiddle

I got both the 1920*1080 and 1280*768 work on my panny 50 now, but both have the overscan problem. i didnt try powerstrip yet. since mostly i watch movies only, so a little bit overscan is ok with me. But why does the TV always have the overscan problem? why cannt it shink the signal? do we have to use powerstrip to feed in several more lines to get over it?

Generally the HDMI and component is used for HDTV signals. The DVI is what is supposed to be used for PC. If your native resolution is the resolution you are trying to use on a DVI interface, many HDTVs have the capability to set Dot by Dot and will map 1:1 for that resolution. Usually any resolution other than the native resolution, it just doesn't bothering trying to receive that data and then stretching it to the exact size for that screen since that is not the way HDTVs work.

The following article describes why overscan is part of a TV.

http://www.anandtech.com/multimedia/showdoc.aspx?i=2181

johnmiddle · 04-07-06, 03:45 PM

Thanks mterzich.
I have one urgent BIG problem now.
In order to perfectly feed in 1366*768 signal, i tried powerstrip following some recommendation here. After some mess around, i accidently choosed a resolution not suitable for my CRT monitor ( the horizontal freqnency is a fraction number, used for LCD if i remember correctly under the predifined resolution). Then it said the windows needs to restart to see if the driver will accept this resolution. I cliked "OK".
Then BIG problem came. My PC cannot reboot any more, the CRT monitor ( corrected to motherboard vedeo card, by intel) is always black, showing nothing.
Since the add-on ATI vedeo card wont work before i can login to windows, no output singal at all for the ATI card.
So i reboot into "safe" mode. it took 30 minutes to get in. Then the display setting could not be changed, with only one basic relosution there. So i told the system to "recover" to yesterday's config. After this it still could only boot into safe mode. ( i am typing in this now in this low resolution) and in control panel -> device manager, no matter how i update the driver, or disable/enable the video card, the PC still cannot boot normally. It already took me 5 hours now, since each time for safe mode it took 30 minutes to get in.

I suspect powerstipe wrote something to the system registry, so that it overwrites the vedeo card setting even after the driver is re-installed. and the powerstrip's setting was used by windows each time when it boots up.

So how can i remove these powerstrip settings? i tried search registry, ( powerstrip was uninstalld by my "system recovery" approach). I also tried to run powerstrip again to set the correct setting, but safe mode does not allow powerstrip to run.

Someone/anyone pls help..... pls forvie me if this is not the right place to ask, but i am really frustrated now....

stjr · 04-07-06, 04:17 PM

Try removing the video card driver completely in the hardware device manager while in the safe mode. You will have to reinstall the driver, but you should be able to boot up normally and see the screen.

johnmiddle · 04-08-06, 09:32 AM

Finally got my PC back working correctly again now. Dont want to mess around with ps any more, since it might easily cause these disaster problem.
Now my pc is feeding in 1280*720 to my plasma TV, although it can feed in 1920*1080 and 1280*768, but this is the one with least overscan. So i choose it.
I guess since my video card does not support 1366*768, no matter how ps manipulates, the underlying driver wont do anything good and correctly.
Anyway nothing is perfect in this world....

biek · 04-09-06, 01:19 AM

I have a Nvidia 6800 card. I now use 1360x768 resolution on Viewsonic 32" LCD (it has a 1366x768 res.). Do I miss anything other than 3 pixels at the sides (i.e clarity, sharpness etc.). How do I setup the graphic card if I want to go to 1368x768. I don't see this res. in the options. I don't know how to set, custom res. or advanced timings. Is there any tutorial for setting up 6800 to output 1368x768. What is the advantage for this resolution in terms of PQ.

Thanks.

dchester · 04-10-06, 10:30 AM

I'm interested in doing 1366 x 768 (although 1360 or 1368 would be acceptable) via the VGA connection, to my Panny plasma TV. Will an ATI X300 video card support this? I have a chance to get a good deal on a PC with this card, but I'll pass if it won't work. Any advice is appreciated.

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jmonier Advanced Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 578	The current NVidia drivers allow you to bypass the EDID. Uncheck "Hide resolutions that this monitor does not support". There is also an "Advanced Timing" option. I use these to get 1366x768 on my PLV-70 that reports only 1024x768 via EDID. The 6600GT has hardware features that unload the CPU especially for HD playback when used with the NVidia PureVideo decoder. (Note that the 6800GT does NOT have the same features.) If you have a PCI-E mobo, the 7600GT adds some more features for HD de-interlacing.

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Favelle AVS Special Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada Posts: 2,871	I run THREE 32" LCD panels from 1) a 5500FX 2) a 6800GT, and 3) from a 7800GTX, and they ALL support 1366 x 768. Its just THAT easy. Even the cheapo 6200GS and all those $50 nVidia cards will do 1366 x 768. You might have to do 1368 x 768, but you won't notice a difference. __________________ In terms of LFE, size does matter!

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Favelle AVS Special Member Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Victoria, BC, Canada Posts: 2,871	And I am using DVI for ALL my connections. When I didn't have my 3rd panel, I was using one of the LCD's for two of my computers and I had to use the VGA output for the Geforce 5500. And it STILL looked the exact same and worked fine. __________________ In terms of LFE, size does matter!

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stjr Advanced Member Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 946	Try removing the video card driver completely in the hardware device manager while in the safe mode. You will have to reinstall the driver, but you should be able to boot up normally and see the screen. __________________ Steve

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almostinsane AVS Special Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,337	It's usually a limitation of the display. The EDID value your display sends the card will usually limit your resolution choises. If you run Moninfo you will find out what the limitations are.

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Zodiacal Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 91	anyone know the cheapest card to get for this setup?

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almostinsane AVS Special Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 2,337	That doesn't mean the monitor will accept the custom res. Most displays on accept HDTV standards over hdmi.

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Zodiacal Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 91	if that is the case, anyone know know of a video card that can output in component as well as dvi? p.s. my tv only has hdmi, i have a cable that converts dvi to hdmi... if that matters...

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mnn1265 AVS Special Member Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 2,113	My Sony HS20 projection TV has an error in the EDID that was mentioned earlier in this thread. Using the "hide" feature does not allow output of 1366x768 because there are only descrite resolution setting allowed in "computer" or "Video GBR" mode over DVI/HDMI. The best I've managed is 1176x664 (after adjusting for overscan) at 60Hz due to these limitations. It seems the TV's just weren't designed for good support of those resolutions. Hopefully with newer models they'll start to think of HTPC users...

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Zodiacal Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 91	you guys think the following cards can handle 1366 x 768 resolutions? 1.) ati radeon 7500 2.) NVIDIA Quadro NVS 50 PCI 64Mb DVI w/TV-Out 3.) 128mb ATI Saphire PCI Video Card, DVI and VGA output

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johnmiddle Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 21	hi, i just got my new panasonic 50PX60U, i have one big Q now, i use it with my PC, and i cannot set the resolution to anything higher than 1280720. i am using ATI RADEON 7000 series, it does not have the exact 1366768, but have many others all the way to 20481536. so does anyone know how i can use higher resolution? isn't it suppose to be better to feed in 1280768 other than 1280720, since the panel itself is 768? i am also interested in the 19201080, since the manual said it supports 1080p signal.... or does anyone know where is the better place/thread to ask about this? Thanks!

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Zodiacal Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 91	are you guys sure component can't except 1366x768? if it can, do i have to buy a transcoding device or can i just buy a dvi to component cable?

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Zodiacal Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 91	anyone know if a ati radeon 7000 dvi-i port can do YpbPr?

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Zodiacal Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 91	so since its RGB i can't connect it to my component connections on my HDTV? do you know of a video card off hand that outputs in the right format?

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mterzich Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 981	Why do you want to use component instead of HDMI?

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Zodiacal Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 91	hdmi restricts inputs to only 1280x720, my hdtv's native resolution is 1366x768... know of any video cards off hand?

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mterzich Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 981	1366x768 probably will not work on either one since neither is desigend for a PC interface. Typically component and HDMI are only designed for HDTV signals. DVI and VGA are designed to support most XGA and WXGA resolutions.

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Zodiacal Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Posts: 91	i found one, ati radeon 9500 supports what i need.

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mterzich Advanced Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 981	Usually, the only way to support non HDTV resolutions through component or HDMI would be to fudge it. As example, select 1920x1080 and then underscan it to 1366x768 and then stretch it. I don't know how well that would work. Also due to overscan issues anyway, it's almost impossible to get the exact resolution on HDMI or component even if the native resolution is 1280x720. Usually there is overscan and that has to be adjusted to reduce the resolution anyway.

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johnmiddle Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 21	I got both the 19201080 and 1280768 work on my panny 50 now, but both have the overscan problem. i didnt try powerstrip yet. since mostly i watch movies only, so a little bit overscan is ok with me. But why does the TV always have the overscan problem? why cannt it shink the signal? do we have to use powerstrip to feed in several more lines to get over it?

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johnmiddle Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 21	Thanks mterzich. I have one urgent BIG problem now. In order to perfectly feed in 1366*768 signal, i tried powerstrip following some recommendation here. After some mess around, i accidently choosed a resolution not suitable for my CRT monitor ( the horizontal freqnency is a fraction number, used for LCD if i remember correctly under the predifined resolution). Then it said the windows needs to restart to see if the driver will accept this resolution. I cliked "OK". Then BIG problem came. My PC cannot reboot any more, the CRT monitor ( corrected to motherboard vedeo card, by intel) is always black, showing nothing. Since the add-on ATI vedeo card wont work before i can login to windows, no output singal at all for the ATI card. So i reboot into "safe" mode. it took 30 minutes to get in. Then the display setting could not be changed, with only one basic relosution there. So i told the system to "recover" to yesterday's config. After this it still could only boot into safe mode. ( i am typing in this now in this low resolution) and in control panel -> device manager, no matter how i update the driver, or disable/enable the video card, the PC still cannot boot normally. It already took me 5 hours now, since each time for safe mode it took 30 minutes to get in. I suspect powerstipe wrote something to the system registry, so that it overwrites the vedeo card setting even after the driver is re-installed. and the powerstrip's setting was used by windows each time when it boots up. So how can i remove these powerstrip settings? i tried search registry, ( powerstrip was uninstalld by my "system recovery" approach). I also tried to run powerstrip again to set the correct setting, but safe mode does not allow powerstrip to run. Someone/anyone pls help..... pls forvie me if this is not the right place to ask, but i am really frustrated now....

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johnmiddle Member Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 21	Finally got my PC back working correctly again now. Dont want to mess around with ps any more, since it might easily cause these disaster problem. Now my pc is feeding in 1280720 to my plasma TV, although it can feed in 19201080 and 1280768, but this is the one with least overscan. So i choose it. I guess since my video card does not support 1366768, no matter how ps manipulates, the underlying driver wont do anything good and correctly. Anyway nothing is perfect in this world....

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biek Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 31	I have a Nvidia 6800 card. I now use 1360x768 resolution on Viewsonic 32" LCD (it has a 1366x768 res.). Do I miss anything other than 3 pixels at the sides (i.e clarity, sharpness etc.). How do I setup the graphic card if I want to go to 1368x768. I don't see this res. in the options. I don't know how to set, custom res. or advanced timings. Is there any tutorial for setting up 6800 to output 1368x768. What is the advantage for this resolution in terms of PQ. Thanks.

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dchester Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 93	I'm interested in doing 1366 x 768 (although 1360 or 1368 would be acceptable) via the VGA connection, to my Panny plasma TV. Will an ATI X300 video card support this? I have a chance to get a good deal on a PC with this card, but I'll pass if it won't work. Any advice is appreciated.