Nvidia DualTV

ginnal · 04-09-06, 08:22 PM

This card was released without much fanfare last week anyone actually have one?
reviews?

huskerpat · 04-09-06, 09:39 PM

I've got one. It seems to be working well. I get a better signal on a couple of channels than I did with my hauppage. PQ is good too. I'm not good for comparison, but it looks better to me.

nikkieneuken · 04-10-06, 03:35 AM

the card is only for analoque signals? So no digital cable or satellite versions available?

Derek K. · 04-10-06, 08:54 AM

Huskerpat,

Which hauppauge card were you using?

I just replaced my older nvtv single tuner cards with two hauppauge dual tuner cards, and I'm not too impressed with the picture. I think the nvtv cards had less noise.

huskerpat · 04-10-06, 12:37 PM

I had a 500 MCE. This card has more adjustable options that the Hauppage did. I think I've got the picture tweaked to where I'm happy with it. There is less noise than before and the color is better. The card has a noise reduction feature, but I didn't really like the picture at the higher settings because it started to look very artificial. The biggest improvement I've noticed so far is that the quality of scrolling news bars (ESPN, CNN, FOXNews) is much better. It's a minor thing, but made catching scores on ESPN a little more difficult. I'm getting better PQ on a couple of channels that weren't coming in quite right with the hauppage...Fox being one of them.

For reference, I'm using the s-video out on my MSI 6150 mbto a 27" tv.

Derek K. · 04-10-06, 01:05 PM

Interesting. Thanks for your reply. How do you adjust the picture settings? Is there something in mce that allows you to play with the picture settings? I hated the lack of controls for the original nvtv cards - you had to play with the registry to adjust the settings.

huskerpat · 04-10-06, 01:20 PM

there's a configuration app available in MCE's more programs that has all the settings for the card.

walford · 04-10-06, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek K.

Interesting. Thanks for your reply. How do you adjust the picture settings? Is there something in mce that allows you to play with the picture settings? I hated the lack of controls for the original nvtv cards - you had to play with the registry to adjust the settings.

If you download the users manual for the new Dual TV card you will find that there are extensive configuration options.

Here is a link:

http://www.nvidia.com/page/dualtv_tech_docs.html

ginnal · 04-10-06, 02:08 PM

Whats with all the usual outlets acting like this thing does not exist?

walford · 04-10-06, 02:58 PM

They don't cover it since it was only announced last week and there are no articles yet comparing it with other current products.

Derek K. · 04-10-06, 03:31 PM

Quite the manual. Thanks. I liked how they explain how to edit the registry to remove old tuner info!

I wonder if the mce app works with the older cards? Also, what version of the decoder did they come with? Do you get updates to newer versions?

walford · 04-10-06, 04:18 PM

I understand that when the Decoder comes with the card you get a license that you can use for updated versions of the Decoder.

jawgee · 04-11-06, 03:29 AM

Is anyone using this card with Windows XP and not MCE? Just curious as the Hauppauge 500 card was designed for MCE, but it worked under XP as well.

Thanks,
jawgee

ViktorP · 04-11-06, 10:10 AM

Pardon the absolute beginner here please…
Is there an easy way to control two cable boxes from my HTPC to use it as PVR with Nvidia DualTV capture card?

huskerpat · 04-11-06, 11:09 AM

You can connect 2 cable boxes to the card, but I'm not sure how the control part would work.

walford · 04-11-06, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ViktorP

Pardon the absolute beginner here please…
Is there an easy way to control two cable boxes from my HTPC to use it as PVR with Nvidia DualTV capture card?

Yes, since the DualTV card is designed for use with MCE and the MCE Ir receiver suupports two IR emitters specifically so that it can control 2 STBs when they are connected to the cards two S-Video and audio inputs.

ginnal · 04-11-06, 11:22 AM

How well does this thing upscale SD content?

Is that what purevideo does on this card?

walford · 04-11-06, 02:58 PM

You would have to read the PureVideo whitepapers and the detailed description of the PureVideo functions in the 7xxx cards to understand all that it does and how well it may do it. All graphics cards provide upscaling functionality, and yes, some do it better than others.
I have not seen a specifice review comparing the upscaling quality of specific cards but it does seem apparent that with each new family release of chips from both NVIDIA and ATI that their scaling algorithims improve just like the improves with each new generation of HDTVs from the HDTVs manufacturers themselves. Of course you can also purchase separate scaler hardware of shousands of $ that wil do much better than any graphcis card controller chip.

BigAl · 04-11-06, 10:08 PM

The tuner card does not do the scaling. As walford mentioned that is the video card doing that work.

The tuner affects the quality of the captured video... how good the tuner is at pulling in a station, limiting noise in the signal, how good the color accuracy and saturation, image detail, etc. are.

Purevideo is kind of a catch all marketing thing that nvidia uses to indicate that a component has been designed to part of a high quality video chain from capture, to encoding, to decoding, scaling and display. They tend to tack it onto any video related component they release these days... but they do tend to be producing good quality stuff.

SHS · 04-12-06, 01:49 AM

Just so you all know SageTV also work with the new NVTV

LeroyMarshall · 04-16-06, 12:17 PM

The internet has 80 million or so webpages, and this is the only one that has more about this card other then a copy of the NVidia press release. Thanks for this info.

In trying to decide which dual tuner to get, this one is significantly more expensive then the Hauppauge 500 MCE and Avermedia AVerTV Purity MCE 500. Anyone have experience with the Avermedia? Is the NVidia worth the $50. Analog video capture cards are nothing new to the market, everyone seems to use the same or similar chipsets from Conexant. Is the difference in the drivers and software? Thanks

walford · 04-16-06, 02:15 PM

From the only feedback from a new user on another thread in the fourm I saw that he flet that thsi card had signifacently better PQ then his Hauppaug 500 card.
This could be caused by the all new NVIDIA designed chipset for encoding or by the onboard signal amplifer or by both of these feature.
If you plan on using 2 STBs and S-video connections this card has 2-S-Video inputs on the basic card so it would actually be cheeper then the Huppauge card and the additional daughter card required for 2 S-Video inputs.

lennyr · 04-16-06, 09:32 PM

Has anybody compared the DualTV to any of the new ATI 550 -based cards? Here's a review of the VisionTek version, which is quite positive:

http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=904

Robosapien · 04-17-06, 07:17 AM

I've also been wondering about ATI's TV Wonder Elite (Theater 550 PRO) vs offerings from Hauppauge and now the Nvidia DualTV that I've just started hearing about. I have a Compro Ultra but want to switch to a card with hardware encoding capability.

ginnal · 04-17-06, 08:26 AM

I'm sending my pvr-150 back.

ginnal · 05-02-06, 10:42 AM

Anyone have this working in meedio?

jawgee · 05-02-06, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ginnal

Anyone have this working in meedio?

Pablo specifically mentioned that this card will work in the last releases of Meedio. It's also supposed to work with Yahoo Go TV.

Have you tried in Meedio yet or are you asking in advance?

Thanks,
jawgee

ginnal · 05-02-06, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jawgee

Pablo specifically mentioned that this card will work in the last releases of Meedio. It's also supposed to work with Yahoo Go TV.

Have you tried in Meedio yet or are you asking in advance?

Thanks,
jawgee

Asking in advance, PVR-150 = Poo

Team Scream · 05-11-06, 03:50 PM

I have the ATI TV Wonder Elite and I am not at all happy with it.
I am returning it so I can try out the nVidia DualTV card. I am just not happy with the quality of the image when watching tv through this card on my plasma, via MCE2005 rollup 2.
Everything looks soft and much less vibrant, I also could not get s-video input to work properly with this card so its going back while I can still return it.
I will post back my thoughts when I get the DualTV card installed and sorted out.

tomblik · 05-15-06, 03:55 PM

While I understand the need to block spam nerds from overloading the message boards with adverts, it is really inconvenient when you are a newbie to this page with something valuable to add to the discussion. There is a review written by John Virata at consumerelectronicsnet - dot - com. He claims that it is "Highly Recommended".

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huskerpat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 474	I had a 500 MCE. This card has more adjustable options that the Hauppage did. I think I've got the picture tweaked to where I'm happy with it. There is less noise than before and the color is better. The card has a noise reduction feature, but I didn't really like the picture at the higher settings because it started to look very artificial. The biggest improvement I've noticed so far is that the quality of scrolling news bars (ESPN, CNN, FOXNews) is much better. It's a minor thing, but made catching scores on ESPN a little more difficult. I'm getting better PQ on a couple of channels that weren't coming in quite right with the hauppage...Fox being one of them. For reference, I'm using the s-video out on my MSI 6150 mbto a 27" tv. __________________ Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne

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huskerpat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 474	there's a configuration app available in MCE's more programs that has all the settings for the card. __________________ Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne

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nikkieneuken paid for by loes Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: netherlands Posts: 309	the card is only for analoque signals? So no digital cable or satellite versions available?

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Derek K. AVS Special Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,697	Huskerpat, Which hauppauge card were you using? I just replaced my older nvtv single tuner cards with two hauppauge dual tuner cards, and I'm not too impressed with the picture. I think the nvtv cards had less noise.

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Derek K. AVS Special Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,697	Interesting. Thanks for your reply. How do you adjust the picture settings? Is there something in mce that allows you to play with the picture settings? I hated the lack of controls for the original nvtv cards - you had to play with the registry to adjust the settings.

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ginnal Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 525	Whats with all the usual outlets acting like this thing does not exist?

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Derek K. AVS Special Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 1,697	Quite the manual. Thanks. I liked how they explain how to edit the registry to remove old tuner info! I wonder if the mce app works with the older cards? Also, what version of the decoder did they come with? Do you get updates to newer versions?

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walford AVS Addicted Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,941	I understand that when the Decoder comes with the card you get a license that you can use for updated versions of the Decoder.

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jawgee Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: NH Posts: 346	Is anyone using this card with Windows XP and not MCE? Just curious as the Hauppauge 500 card was designed for MCE, but it worked under XP as well. Thanks, jawgee

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ViktorP New Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 1	Pardon the absolute beginner here please… Is there an easy way to control two cable boxes from my HTPC to use it as PVR with Nvidia DualTV capture card?

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huskerpat Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 474	You can connect 2 cable boxes to the card, but I'm not sure how the control part would work. __________________ Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid. - John Wayne

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ginnal Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 525	How well does this thing upscale SD content? Is that what purevideo does on this card?

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BigAl AVS Special Member Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Omaha, NE Posts: 1,369	The tuner card does not do the scaling. As walford mentioned that is the video card doing that work. The tuner affects the quality of the captured video... how good the tuner is at pulling in a station, limiting noise in the signal, how good the color accuracy and saturation, image detail, etc. are. Purevideo is kind of a catch all marketing thing that nvidia uses to indicate that a component has been designed to part of a high quality video chain from capture, to encoding, to decoding, scaling and display. They tend to tack it onto any video related component they release these days... but they do tend to be producing good quality stuff.

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LeroyMarshall New Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1	The internet has 80 million or so webpages, and this is the only one that has more about this card other then a copy of the NVidia press release. Thanks for this info. In trying to decide which dual tuner to get, this one is significantly more expensive then the Hauppauge 500 MCE and Avermedia AVerTV Purity MCE 500. Anyone have experience with the Avermedia? Is the NVidia worth the $50. Analog video capture cards are nothing new to the market, everyone seems to use the same or similar chipsets from Conexant. Is the difference in the drivers and software? Thanks

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walford AVS Addicted Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 10,941	From the only feedback from a new user on another thread in the fourm I saw that he flet that thsi card had signifacently better PQ then his Hauppaug 500 card. This could be caused by the all new NVIDIA designed chipset for encoding or by the onboard signal amplifer or by both of these feature. If you plan on using 2 STBs and S-video connections this card has 2-S-Video inputs on the basic card so it would actually be cheeper then the Huppauge card and the additional daughter card required for 2 S-Video inputs.

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lennyr Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: San Francisco Posts: 490	DualTV vs. ATI Theater 550 Pro? Has anybody compared the DualTV to any of the new ATI 550 -based cards? Here's a review of the VisionTek version, which is quite positive: http://www.bjorn3d.com/read.php?cID=904 __________________ -l

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ginnal Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 525	I'm sending my pvr-150 back.

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ginnal Advanced Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 525	Anyone have this working in meedio?

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Team Scream New Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 13	I have the ATI TV Wonder Elite and I am not at all happy with it. I am returning it so I can try out the nVidia DualTV card. I am just not happy with the quality of the image when watching tv through this card on my plasma, via MCE2005 rollup 2. Everything looks soft and much less vibrant, I also could not get s-video input to work properly with this card so its going back while I can still return it. I will post back my thoughts when I get the DualTV card installed and sorted out.

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tomblik New Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 7	Nvidia DualTV review While I understand the need to block spam nerds from overloading the message boards with adverts, it is really inconvenient when you are a newbie to this page with something valuable to add to the discussion. There is a review written by John Virata at consumerelectronicsnet - dot - com. He claims that it is "Highly Recommended".