Pioneer DV-490V and DV-696V

[dvreid]

Everyone,

I thought I would start on thread on these two players. I am interested in the 490, but there is very little chatter on the web about them. The 490 is for sale at J&R and B&H, but the 696 is due in June. The manuals have not made it onto the pioneer website also. I think either of the pioneers or the oppo 970h will be great companions to the DVDO VP30 w/ ABT102 using 480i over HDMI.

Anyone have the 490 yet?

Thanks,
DR

[PooperScooper]

People have been talking about these, but I can't find the thread....

larry

[lsarver]

Originally Posted by PooperScooper

People have been talking about these, but I can't find the thread....

larry

Here's the (pre)sale page from AVLand (UK). And--for what it's worth--here's Pioneer's Japanese page.

Is the dv-696 essentially a dv-588 with HDMI?

Larry, is this thread what you had in mind?: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...96#post6880095

[WaldorfSalad]

Existing thread with some 490 info....
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=674462

[s2pdname]

I'm VERY interested in the Pioneer 696. (Also, just trying to keep the thread alive).

Anyone heard/seen anything else, got anymore information on release date? We're into June now?????



Good listening/viewing!

[rothlike]

Originally Posted by s2pdname

I'm VERY interested in the Pioneer 696. (Also, just trying to keep the thread alive).

Anyone heard/seen anything else, got anymore information on release date? We're into June now?????

I'm waiting for the 696 as well. Was hoping it would be out by now. Hope they are on track still for release this month.

-- Rich

[WilliamR]

I too am waiting for the 696. I did a thread on here (can't find it now), that asked about a new player with HDMI and everyone highly recommended this player. It has HDMI, doesn't have that Fuj. chip that causes Macroblocking, and is relatively cheap (good choice until they work out the HD format wars/prices come down). Just wish they would release it already.

[sbliftmachine]

I currently have the 588a and it has been the best player I've owned thus far. I'm also very excited about the new 696AV. I wonder if the HDMI will increase picture quality as compared to the 588a. My Philips LCD does a great job of upconverting on its own and so far I haven't seen any difference between a upconversion player and the 588a. It is worth noting that I've only tired 2 upconversion players, LG and Samsung (I forget the model #).

Here's some previews of Pioneer's new products, which includes the 696AV

I'm very excited that it looks like it will be offered in black

http://www.pioneer.se/files/brochure...Preview_EN.pdf

[rickardl]

Originally Posted by sbliftmachine

I currently have the 588a and it has been the best player I've owned thus far. I'm also very excited about the new 696AV. I wonder if the HDMI will increase picture quality as compared to the 588a. My Philips LCD does a great job of upconverting on its own and so far I haven't seen any difference between a upconversion player and the 588a. It is worth noting that I've only tired 2 upconversion players, LG and Samsung (I forget the model #).

Here's some previews of Pioneer's new products, which includes the 696AV

I'm very excited that it looks like it will be offered in black

http://www.pioneer.se/files/brochure...Preview_EN.pdf

Please note that those are European models which might differ to the US models.
For example, the European DV490 does not have optical out which the US DV490 seems to have.

[sbliftmachine]

Originally Posted by rickardl

Please note that those are European models which might differ to the US models.
For example, the European DV490 does not have optical out which the US DV490 seems to have.

I'm a bit confused. Is "DV-696AV-K" the US version or the Euro version? I got an email back from Pioneer that the DV-696AV-K will be released in black.

[rothlike]

Originally Posted by sbliftmachine

I'm a bit confused. Is "DV-696AV-K" the US version or the Euro version? I got an email back from Pioneer that the DV-696AV-K will be released in black.

Don't know that, but did they say when it was going to be released?

[rothlike]

Anyone hear anything on an ETA for availability in the US for the 696? I can't find even a pre-order, anywhere...

[poppunklovebaby]

I REALLY WANT TO BUY THIS DVD PLAYER!! DOES anyone have any idea when its going to be released??????????

[rothlike]

Originally Posted by poppunklovebaby

I REALLY WANT TO BUY THIS DVD PLAYER!! DOES anyone have any idea when its going to be released??????????

I do a google search every day and still can't find any place in the USA that is even taking pre-orders. D'oh...

[standard141]

why dont you just get the 490v do you really NEED dvd audio??

[Strykerxx]

@standard141
does 490V has position memory when playing divx files?

[Mark_Venture]

Originally Posted by standard141

why dont you just get the 490v do you really NEED dvd audio??

because I can't seem to find one of them locally either.... (Sorry, not a fan of mail order)..

[standard141]

Originally Posted by Strykerxx

@standard141
does 490V has position memory when playing divx files?

yes it does and divx playback is quite amazing by the way.

Originally Posted by Mark_Venture

because I can't seem to find one of them locally either.... (Sorry, not a fan of mail order)..

i dunno if its available locally yet but i know you can order from the pioneer website i ordered my player from abt came within a week

[suplex]

Hi Everyone:

I am in the market for a new DVD Player as well. I currently own the Samsung DVD-M301, and it's starting to give me a hard time playing things I record on my Pioneer DVR-640H-S (DVD Recorder with a HDD).

I narrowed it down to three models:

Pioneer DV-490-VS
Panasonic DVD-S52S
Sony DVP-NS55P

What I want it to be able to do is play my "finalized" DVD's that I recorded on either my Pioneer DVR-640H-S, my Toshiba D-R1, or Toshiba D-R2 (single disc recorders with no HDD).

Also anything made from my computer with my old Sony DRU-500AX, or my current Sony DRU-810A.

The following formats would be great as well: DVD-R/RW/DL, DVD+R/RW/DL, CD-R/RW, and Video CD (VCD). DVD-Ram is not necessary.

I feel pretty confident that the Pioneer player I listed above will certainly play discs I recorded in the Pioneer 640 Recorder, but I just have to make sure it will play stuff I "finalized" on other equipment (like the many DVD's from my Toshiba D-R1/D-R2).

My Samsung (current) player has played everything I have ever thrown at it, just now the Pioneer 640 recordings are giving it a hard time.

Any suggestions?

I would like my new player to be under $120.00, which seems pretty easy these days.

[rickardl]

Originally Posted by sbliftmachine

I'm a bit confused. Is "DV-696AV-K" the US version or the Euro version? I got an email back from Pioneer that the DV-696AV-K will be released in black.

DV-696AV-K is the black version.
DV-696AV-S is the silver version.
There nothing in the model names that differ the US model from the Euro version.
The Euro versions are now listed on Pioneer's website:
http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/product_...onomy_id=45-64
And the instruction manuals are also there in English, pdf-format.
http://www.service.pioneer-eur.com/p...earch?openform

[poppunklovebaby]

umm, That balck Pioneer DV-696AV-K looks really nice. Why is Pioneer torturing us here in America. Please give us some information already on the release date. I have a feeling that this player is going to be wonderful with my 1014 reciever. Cmon ALready!!! I wonder if its better then the opp universal 970.
Please Pioneer, give us some info!!!!

[CHolleman]

ok, i've been waiting for the 696 to come out, but after reading the comparisons on Pio's website, it looks like the major differences between the 696 and 490 are the the extra audio options with the 696 and a better audio DAC. this is going to be a player that will tide me over until the HD/BR wars subside (or at least until the price comes down) i have no use for the DVDaudio or SACD stuff. it does appear that the 696 does however output interlaced and progressive and have extra audio management options such as bass adjustment and an optical audio out. BUT the DD decoder 5.1 out sounds like a nice feature to have. the 490 doesn't have this, but if i connect via digital coax to my 1015, will it matter if the player doesn't support it?

for someone that just wants to replace their aging 10 year old sony player, would the 490 be a good choice since down the road i'll purchase the HD/BR player? i don't have a home theater setup...yet. just my Pio plasma 4360. this looks like a great little upconverting player i can use to feed the pdp via HDMI.

[rickardl]

Originally Posted by CHolleman

ok, i've been waiting for the 696 to come out, but after reading the comparisons on Pio's website, it looks like the major differences between the 696 and 490 are the the extra audio options with the 696 and a better audio DAC. this is going to be a player that will tide me over until the HD/BR wars subside (or at least until the price comes down) i have no use for the DVDaudio or SACD stuff. it does appear that the 696 does however output interlaced and progressive and have extra audio management options such as bass adjustment and an optical audio out. BUT the DD decoder 5.1 out sounds like a nice feature to have. the 490 doesn't have this, but if i connect via digital coax to my 1015, will it matter if the player doesn't support it?

No. If you feed it digitally through coax, you have no need for 5.1 analogue
output. It is only needed for SACD and DVD-Audio discs.
Also, the bass management is also just for SACD and DVD-Audio output
from 5.1 analogue output.
If you don't need SACD and DVD-Audio, the DV-490V is ok.

[poppunklovebaby]

well i think most of the people interested in the 696 want the sacd dvd audio capabilities. i think thats pretty much a gimme. ANY RELEASE DATE!!!!

[xSidx1337x]

I would say at this day and age the Pio 490v comes out on top, upon the panny and sony, but what is sacd dvd audio? >.<

[poppunklovebaby]

Originally Posted by xSidx1337x

I would say at this day and age the Pio 490v comes out on top, upon the panny and sony, but what is sacd dvd audio? >.<

Are you joking?

[standard141]

no the panny s52s SUX trust me i purchased that and the sammy to test against this and neither one of them did well. i dont know about the sony but it probably is on par with this

[Yung]

Originally Posted by lsarver

Here's the (pre)sale page from AVLand (UK). And--for what it's worth--here's Pioneer's Japanese page.

Is the dv-696 essentially a dv-588 with HDMI?

Larry, is this thread what you had in mind?: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...96#post6880095

Thanks for reposting that thread!
I'm still waiting for the DV696 to come out too. Its nearing the end of June already. I see it for pre-order on the UK Amazon site, but not here in the States!?
Would like to see some benchmark test on it before I buy though.

[Yung]

Here's the Pioneer UK spec page on the DV-696AV available in black (K) or silver (S).
http://www.pioneer.co.uk/uk/product_...onomy_id=42-84

[WaldorfSalad]

Here is the manual for the 696 (UK model)...
http://www.service.pioneer-eur.com/peeservice/instrmanuals.nsf/0/28180A795A07B904C125718E004E6F05/$File/VRD1213_DV-696AV-S.pdf

and the 393/490 (UK model)...
http://www.service.pioneer-eur.com/peeservice/RegistrInstrMan.nsf/(CountDownloadinInstructionManuals3)?openagent&ID=C09A368B3C B6DE26C12571450029116C&Attachment=VRB1442_DV-393-S.pdf