New Pioneer Elite DVD player announced DV-46AV

[Yung]

Don't mean to brand belch, but for those of you who are not quite ready to move to Blu-ray or HD-DVD, Pioneer announced a new player in their Elite line, the Pioneer Elite DV-46AV DVD player is supposedly available this month for a suggested price of $299. Don't see it on the Pio website yet.
http://www.pioneerelectronics.com/pn...080415,00.html

New Pioneer Elite DVD Player Delivers Impressive Audio & Video Performance
Long Beach, CA June 7, 2006

Impressive audio and video processing performance and a wide range of playback capabilities are only two of many reasons consumers will want the Pioneer Elite® DV-46AV DVD player introduced today. True videophiles will want this product for its exceptional audio and video resolution that is a result of a High Definition Multimedia Interface (HDMI®) output with video up-conversion up to 1080i. Audiophiles will appreciate its ability to play many types of discs including SACD, DVD-Audio, WMA and .mp3. Everyone else will appreciate its sleek styling and the prestige that comes from owning a Pioneer Elite product.

“As with all of our Pioneer Elite DVD players, consumers know they’re getting the finest audio and video reproduction quality, along with a number of cutting-edge technologies,” said Chris Walker, senior manager of audio video marketing and product planning at Pioneer Electronics (USA) Inc. “The DV-46AV incorporates the best of our design and engineering for a full-featured unit that users will be proud to own.”

Multimedia Performance: Play Almost Any Kind of Format
Pioneer brings to market a DVD player with wide compatibility, including: DVD-R/RW, DVD+R/RW, CD-R, CD-RW, digital music formats WMA and .mp3, DVD-Audio and SACD for multi-channel music, as well as viewing DivX® video and JPEG files with Photoviewer.

Video Performance: Sharp, Bright, Accurate Pictures
With Pioneer’s PureCinema™ progressive scan circuit, the player faithfully reproduces original film frames using 2:3 pull-down inverse telecine technology with a progressive display. If a DVD does not indicate telecine conversion, the PureCinema circuitry will process the signal with advanced motion detection and create a new progressive image. This helps to ensure that the final image seen on the television is as close as possible to what the director had in mind when creating the original movie.

Users can directly connect the Pioneer Elite DV-46AV to a television via the HDMI connection to ensure a single, pure digital connection that eliminates unnecessary processing steps. By limiting the need to convert video from analog to digital and back, it’s easier to provide the best picture quality. Pioneer’s Twin Pixel Resolution Expander technology up-converts traditional DVD video signals to display on high definition screens. Consumers with an HDTV at home will especially appreciate the ability to make a standard DVD look more like HDTV.

The DV-46AV has 10-bit digital video processing to output the highest quality signal through HDMI. It uses a 108MHz/12-bit video digital to analog converter (DAC) for a clearer picture and sharper image.

Audio Performance:
The DV-46AV ensures high-quality audio processing capability for music and movies with a 192kHz/24-bit digital to analog converter. This great audio processing matches the player’s remarkable video output. For maximum 5.1 surround sound quality, the unit offers Dolby® Digital, DTS® and SRS TruSurround® decoding. If a user chooses to use only the front channel speakers and subwoofer, the unit provides Pioneer’s Virtual Surround mode, which creates a “virtual” surround sound effect in the absence of a 5.1 speaker set-up.

The Pioneer Elite DV-46AV DVD player is available this month for a suggested price of $299.

Pioneer's Home Entertainment and Business Solutions Group is a leading manufacturer of plasma televisions and monitors, Blu-ray Disc® and DVD products, A/V receivers, speakers and other audio and video accessories. Its focus is on the development of new digital technologies including Digital Network Entertainment™. The company markets its products under the Pioneer and Pioneer Elite brand names. When purchased from an authorized dealer, consumers receive a limited warranty for one year with Pioneer products and two years with Pioneer Elite products.

PIONEER and ELITE are registered trademarks of Pioneer Corporation.
DOLBY is a registered trademark of Dolby Laboratories.
DTS is a registered trademark of Digital Theater Systems, Inc.
HDMI is a registered trademark of HDMI Licensing, LLC.
SRS and TRUSURROUND are registered trademarks of SRS Labs, Inc.
DIVX is a registered trademark of DivX, Inc.

[PooperScooper]

Interesting. This is a break in their trend for the last 6 years or so. I wonder if it's based on the new Pioneer (non-Elite) players.

larry

[LDBecker]

When I saw this I had a tinge of regret for getting the 79avi, but this new one doesn't seem to have i-Link. It's maybe like a 588a with HDMI added. Makes sense to reserve (for now) HDMI for their Elite line, and keep the i-Link/HDMI combination on their flagship DVD player...

Still, this looks like a great player for the price-point.

Larry

[Sam S]

Originally Posted by LDBecker

When I saw this I had a tinge of regret for getting the 79avi, but this new one doesn't seem to have i-Link. It's maybe like a 588a with HDMI added. Makes sense to reserve (for now) HDMI for their Elite line, and keep the i-Link/HDMI combination on their flagship DVD player...

Still, this looks like a great player for the price-point.

Larry

They have HDMI on their standard universal player, the DV-696AV.

[DavidHir]

I'm curious if the picture quality will come close to the 59/79avi. For component use, it doesn't it only has 108MHz/12-bit, where as the other mentioned Elites are 14 bit/216 I think.

[PooperScooper]

It doesn't upscale via component, 12bit/108Mhz is plenty. Don't get caught up in bigger numbers. For good analog output, DACs are only part of the equation.

larry

[DavidHir]

Originally Posted by PooperScooper

It doesn't upscale via component, 12bit/108Mhz is plenty. Don't get caught up in bigger numbers. For good analog output, DACs are only part of the equation.

larry

Larry,

I'm thinking of component 480p performance (mostly for CRT RPTV folks). Players with 14/216 seem to perform better than 10/12 bit, 54/108mhz players that I've used before. I'm know this isn't the only reason, but part of it since the quality of digital to analog conversion is important in this context.

[Yung]

Originally Posted by PooperScooper

Interesting. This is a break in their trend for the last 6 years or so. I wonder if it's based on the new Pioneer (non-Elite) players.

larry

I don't know if its so much a break in their trend. Looks like an upgrade to the entry level Elite DV-45A that has been out for a while.

[PooperScooper]

Originally Posted by Yung

I don't know if its so much a break in their trend. Looks like an upgrade to the entry level Elite DV-45A that has been out for a while.

The 45A is not entry level. It was their top of the line player when it came out. Succeeded by the 47a(i) and then they finally got decent video with the 59avi and 79avi. This line of players is a succession, not a tier. Given the age of the 45A, there better not be any commonality between it and the new player, except, maybe, the transport. Otherwise you're getting "old news".

larry

[hmbeal]

Is there a release date on this player?

[obie_fl]

Bump...Heard these were shipping anyone seen one yet?

Does it do 480i over HDMI?

[Scott_R_K]

Still don't see this on the Pio Web-site .

Google only turns up hits mentioned on AVS and the June Pio press release .

Would like to see one . Kind of kills the 79AVi though

Scott.................

[uzun]

Is this an HDMI 1.2 compliant SACD player? Perhaps its intended to work with the newer HDMI 1.2 receivers from Pioneer in order to support SACD via HDMI.

[Yung]

Originally Posted by obie_fl

Bump...Heard these were shipping anyone seen one yet?

Does it do 480i over HDMI?

I have not seen it. An ebay seller, Unitedonlineshopping is selling it and Yawa sells it through its Chino, CA store. The Unitedonline site mentions HDMI Output with 720 and 1080i Up conversion.

[uzun]

Yes I see this for sale on ebay and a few online sites, but can't find any information about it on the pioneer site. I wonder if it is the first HDMI 1.2 compatible DVD/DVD-Audio/SACD source device, meaning with an HDMI 1.2 receiver you could listen to SACD via HDMI without conversion to PCM.

[Scott_R_K]

Just a friendly "bump" up

It's really getting frustrating waiting for the "official" word from Pioneer on this model , apart from the Press release .

I E-Mailed my local Dealer and he said he hadn't heard anything about it . So I sent him the Press release . I'm still waiting .

It may be an OPPO 970HD in the wings instead .

Scott..........

[psgcdn]

Is this player likely to be any good for SACD/DVDA playback? It's cheaper than the Elite 45a being cleared out in places, but I don't know if the 45a was considered good for SACD/DVDAs...

[BMW]

I bought one (retail at local Tweeter), and no SACD over HDMI. This player is nothing compared to the 59AVi or 79AVi. It is a half-depth lower-end player. I wanted it to for digital SACD to my 84TXSi receiver, but no luck.

I am going to keep it around for a week or two, so I may be able to answer any questions.

SACD over HDMI without success here.

Brent

[ematcion]

Here's the machine in question....



and a review. I wonder if it's worth buying this over the internet at less than MSRP? Especially there won't be a warranty given Pioneer doesn't authorize sales of its Elite components online.

[zglass2]

Originally Posted by BMW

I bought one (retail at local Tweeter), and no SACD over HDMI. This player is nothing compared to the 59AVi or 79AVi. It is a half-depth lower-end player. I wanted it to for digital SACD to my 84TXSi receiver, but no luck.

I am going to keep it around for a week or two, so I may be able to answer any questions.

SACD over HDMI without success here.

Brent

Thanks for the update - also have the 84TXSi - without SACD over HDMI AND no i-link (84TXSi has 2 i-links) this one is gone from my list.

[Scott_R_K]

Originally Posted by BMW

I bought one (retail at local Tweeter), and no SACD over HDMI. This player is nothing compared to the 59AVi or 79AVi. It is a half-depth lower-end player. I wanted it to for digital SACD to my 84TXSi receiver, but no luck.

I am going to keep it around for a week or two, so I may be able to answer any questions.

SACD over HDMI without success here.

Brent

Hi Brent ,

Can you check the Manual and see if it passes 480i over HDMI and what the colour choices are i.e RGB 4:4:4 or YCrCb 4:2:2 etc .

Thanks for keeping us informed .

Scott.....................

[BMW]

The 46AV does pass 480i over HDMI along with 480P, 720P and 1080i. You can select a resolution from the menu system or cycle through them using the remote.

The HDMI color options are RGB, Full Range RGB and Component. These can also be cycled through using menus or remote directly.

Brent

[obie_fl]

Hmm... I wonder how it will compare to the 79AVi in terms of being strictly an HDMI transport.

[Scott_R_K]

Is the 10-bit Digital Video Processing of any value when we output 480i ? I don't think so . This should only come into play when we start de-interlacing and scaling.

Correct me if I've got it wrong

Scott.................

[Stereodude]

I still don't know how they can claim it's HDMI 1.2 when it doesn't support SACD/DSD via HDMI... Heck they could just claim it's HDMI 1.3 and just say it doesn't support any of the HDMI 1.3 features, like they have with HDMI 1.2.

[Poise]

Any additional news on this unit? Interested in picking up a new DVD player while I hold out for an HD player til next year.

[Hopperman]

Just had to join AVS Forum so that I could make my comments on the new DV 46 player.

I purchased one for 299.00 at my local Tweeter with a 60 day price gauruntee (i expect it to drop in price 50.00 before Nov.). I am deliriously happy with the results. This player is in my HT system and is connected to a Pioneer Plasma 4350. I am using a RS HDMI connector and am utilizing the upconverting feature. This thing is unbelievable. I put my recent copy of LOTR in for a moment to see if I would experience a difference. WOW! I ended up watching the dvd all over again. The detail is almost HD quality. The difference is not incremental. It is a new viewing experience. Oh, and get ready for a new revelation in audio dynamics. I had to recalibrate the volume of all of my speakers. The resolution of all of the background sounds were now clearly evident. The center channel speaker revealed the smallest conversation whispers.

Go get you one and try it.

[Wesley Hester]

Originally Posted by Sam S

They have HDMI on their standard universal player, the DV-696AV.

Wish they would release this player in the United States.

[puccainbkk]

Could anyone tell me this DV46av(dv696av in Thailand) modify SDI ???
i think about to get this player . i know i can use HDMI 480i to my Lumagen but i want to get through pure 480i.
How about does the movies SQ on the DVD compare to DV59(969avi) or DV79(989avi) ?
Please help and sorry with my poor English writting

[lastxbr960]

I wonder how this compares to the Oppo970 and 971, Denon DVD1930ci and Toshiba HD_A1 for SD PQ?
http://www.avperfection.com/scripts/...p?idproduct=32