Kyle XY on ABC Family

[bierboy]

ABC is showing Kyle XY Friday night. TitanTV lists it as HD; ABC's Web site does not. (This is the ABCFamily original series that debuted last week). Anyone have better information on whether it will be in HD? I've heard some decent things about it.

[DrDon]

From the press bundle we media types get:

"Kyle XY" is broadcast in 720 Progressive (720P), ABC's selected HDTV format, with 5.1-channel surround sound. This program carries a TV-PG,D parental guideline."

I'd say that's a yes.

Doc

[fredfa]

I stand corrected, DrDon!

[DrDon]

Originally Posted by fredfa

I stand corrected, DrDon!

Don't say that 'till Friday night <G>.

[Marcus Carr]

Enjoy the HD while it lasts.

[Garrett Adams]

I saw the pilot episode on ABC Family and have added it to my must watch list. Bummer that I'll have to start viewing it in SD after the fourth episode.

[DaveFi]

Pretty good family show about a sevant 16yr who appears out of nowhere and is taken care of by a social worker's family.

The usual good quality muted film look that ABC has on its HD series. Unfortunately it dropped out of HD for about 15mins, but then came back.

Seems like decent off season filler. Well worth a look.

[rezzy]

Some have complained about sex scenes....it initially debuting on the (ABC) Family Channel and all. I liked the narration on the small bit I did see. BTW, the pilot episode of Kyle can be downloaded free from iTunes (not in HD, of course).

[DrDon]

topics merged

[jabbathespud]

On 7/7,Kyle XY will be shown on ABC again in HD @ 9:00pm

[DaveFi]

Originally Posted by Garrett Adams

I saw the pilot episode on ABC Family and have added it to my must watch list. Bummer that I'll have to start viewing it in SD after the fourth episode.

Ep2 is on tonight.

Can you please explain if you meant that after Ep4 it will be SD on ABC or not?

[RockyF]

So far, ABC is only scheduled to air the first 4 of the 10 episodes. If the ratings are good enough, I would think that they will play the rest throughout the summer. I don't know why they wouldn't. I haven't watched it yet, but it's got to be better than most of the reality stuff on during the summer.

[Garrett Adams]

DaveFi, the SD I was referring to was having to switch back SD only ABC Family channel showing in order to view the remaining episodes 5 through 10.

[DaveFi]

Ah OK. I will state from my first viewing of EP1 that it is a pretty good show and hopefully will remain so.

As far as to Summer filler, ABC could do a whole lot worse.

[petergaryr]

This surprising show has great HD PQ, characters you can actually care about, and an intriguing mystery surrounding who or what Kyle actually is. It is on ABC. It is doomed.

[trbarry]

Originally Posted by petergaryr

This surprising show has great HD PQ, characters you can actually care about, and an intriguing mystery surrounding who or what Kyle actually is. It is on ABC. It is doomed.

Probably. But ABC hasn't managed to cancel Lost yet, so maybe there is still hope.

- Tom

[DaveFi]

Originally Posted by petergaryr

It is on ABC. It is doomed.

Maybe not, being that it seems to be gathering a following on ABC Family.

[audiomagnate]

Originally Posted by Garrett Adams

DaveFi, the SD I was referring to was having to switch back SD only ABC Family channel showing in order to view the remaining episodes 5 through 10.

So episodes 5-10 won't be on ABC? Why would they build a viewership on the network and then screw anybody that doessn't get ABC Family? I liked it and so did my kids.

[bicker1]

Why would they build a viewership on the network and then screw anybody that doessn't get ABC Family?

What Rocky said was, "If the ratings are good enough, I would think that they will play the rest throughout the summer. I don't know why they wouldn't."

Regardless, even if they do stop the broadcasts on ABC, I wouldn't use the word "screw" -- it is unquestionably not their intent, and "screwing" requires intent. Rather, building an audience for a show is a great idea, and if showing folks that ABC Family offers excellent quality programming that they can enjoy, and that prompts any number of families to finally subscribe to basic cable to get ABC Family, then it is a big win for ABC.

[petergaryr]

Those of us with cable, satellite, Tivo and/or DVRs sometimes forget that there is a large population of people whose only option, for a variety of reasons, is OTA.

Getting someone interested in a show that may only have a run on a non-OTA station could be considered unkind by some.

[audiomagnate]

Originally Posted by bicker1

What Rocky said was, "If the ratings are good enough, I would think that they will play the rest throughout the summer. I don't know why they wouldn't."

Regardless, even if they do stop the broadcasts on ABC, I wouldn't use the word "screw" -- it is unquestionably not their intent, and "screwing" requires intent. Rather, building an audience for a show is a great idea, and if showing folks that ABC Family offers excellent quality programming that they can enjoy, and that prompts any number of families to finally subscribe to basic cable to get ABC Family, then it is a big win for ABC.

You sound like you work for ABC. It's actually a double screw job:

1. Anybody w/o ABC Fam that likes the show is left in the lurch.
2. I don't believe there is such a thing as ABC Fam HD. so even if you have access to the cable channel, you're stuck with SD.

[bicker1]

Originally Posted by petergaryr

Getting someone interested in a show that may only have a run on a non-OTA station could be considered unkind by some.

I suppose all advertising works that way: Netflix offers a free trial. Is it "unkind" of them to do so, given that it might tend to get people interested in a service that they'd have to pay extra for later on? Of course not.

[GeorgeLV]

Originally Posted by audiomagnate

You sound like you work for ABC. It's actually a double screw job:

1. Anybody w/o ABC Fam that likes the show is left in the lurch.
2. I don't believe there is such a thing as ABC Fam HD. so even if you have access to the cable channel, you're stuck with SD.

1. Almost every cable/sat system has ABC family. It is the 20th most widely distributed channel with 88.7 million subscribers. (Discovery, the most widely distributed cable channel has 90.3 million subscribers.) http://ncta.com/ContentView.aspx?contentId=74

2. This is true for many other original cable shows. (Stargate, The Shield, etc.)

[bicker1]

Originally Posted by audiomagnate

You sound like you work for ABC.

It's funny. Whenever I make a point that people disagree with, but don't have a good idea about how to refute my point, they try to guess who I work for. As I've said several times before, I don't now nor have I ever worked for a company that produced or distributed television programming.

No one is owned anything. If you really want the show to continue on ABC, then keep watching, and get others to watch. If the show gets popular, you know they'll feature the show on the flagship network. If you're among the few people who end up liking the show, then it'll be just like any other case where a show isn't popular.

[Garrett Adams]

It should be noted this isn't the first time a show has been re-purposed in order to build interest in a show. There were flagship network showings of Monk and Battlestar Gallatica, and probably a few more that I don't recall.

[bicker1]

That's actually a good point. And of course, Battlestar Gallactica was indeed broadcast on NBC, in HD, and then folks who got interested in the show were able to subscribe to cable if they wished, and watched the program on Sci-Fi, in SD.

[audiomagnate]

Originally Posted by bicker1

It's funny. Whenever I make a point that people disagree with, but don't have a good idea about how to refute my point, they try to guess who I work for. As I've said several times before, I don't now nor have I ever worked for a company that produced or distributed television programming.

No one is owned anything. If you really want the show to continue on ABC, then keep watching, and get others to watch. If the show gets popular, you know they'll feature the show on the flagship network. If you're among the few people who end up liking the show, then it'll be just like any other case where a show isn't popular.

I've never read one of your illustrious posts before and couldn't care less about who you work for, but I can tell from your reponse that you consider yourself a very important person.

IMO it's sleazy for a network to start a show on a channel available to anyone for free and then switch it to pay TV after five episodes, whatever their motive. It's kind of like the old bait and switch routine. I get OTA HD and E*'s silver package, so it doesn't affect me (except for the HD part) but I still think its sleazy, especially for a family oriented show. BTW, niether you nor I can "refute" an opinion, but we can agree to disagree.

[trbarry]

As more people spend their time watching cable and sat the relative power of OTA affiliates decline. Meanwhile, the same companies own both the majority of national OTA networks and cable channels. I'd expect them to continue migrating prime content onto premium cable & sat channels while using OTA for promotions of those same shows.

This process works especially well during summer rerun season when there isn't much else on OTA to compete with it. However they would likely get away with it a bit more if the cable channels were HD.

- Tom

[bicker1]

Originally Posted by audiomagnate

I've never read one of your illustrious posts before and couldn't care less about who you work for, but I can tell from your reponse that you consider yourself a very important person.

Then you're really not paying attention to what I'm writing. My message is consistent: Individuals aren't important in this regard. Not you. Not me.

As Garrett pointed out, what ABC is doing isn't new. NBC did it with Battlestar Gallactica, and that obviously worked out very well for NBC.

[DaveFi]

Originally Posted by trbarry

As more people spend their time watching cable and sat the relative power of OTA affiliates decline. Meanwhile, the same companies own both the majority of national OTA networks and cable channels. I'd expect them to continue migrating prime content onto premium cable & sat channels while using OTA for promotions of those same shows.

This process works especially well during summer rerun season when there isn't much else on OTA to compete with it. However they would likely get away with it a bit more if the cable channels were HD.

- Tom

Another method now being tried (at least on Comcast) is showing reruns of recent episodes OnDemand. They are currently running CSI SD for $.99, and HD for $1.49. Makes little sense to me because you can just PVR it, but I suppose if you must watch it, this is as good a way as any.