New Syntax Olevia TV models

donrussell · 07-12-06, 11:16 AM

Thanks to skr8psko1021 in the Official Syntax Olevia LT42HVi Thread, I've found information about the new models

There is no information on most of these on the Syntax Olevia web site yet.

Naylia · 07-12-06, 12:27 PM

too bad there's no 7-series specs up

LCD1080 · 07-12-06, 12:29 PM

I don't see anything there for the new Syntax 1080P model (the 742i). All that's there is 5 series. Did I miss something?

BroChaos · 07-12-06, 10:40 PM

3 series and 5 series are coming out now. the ones that are listed in stock are actually correct. these literally just left the warehouse in the past few weeks. the 7 series model is still undergoing extensive testing, and will be for several more weeks. if they don't start putting up pics soon, i'm gonna have to go covert and snap a few with my cell phone :P

Mike777 · 07-13-06, 12:18 AM

The new 42" is only 96 lbs, instead of 120 something for the old version. I wonder if it still has the glass on the front.

BroChaos · 07-13-06, 10:46 AM

i'm pretty sure the 542 has no glass. but the 742 and 747 will

Xcalibur_255 · 07-13-06, 03:30 PM

Are there any specific advantages to having glass up front that would offset the plasma-esque reflections that will result from using it? It's a rather unusual choice in an LCD.

bc2000y · 07-13-06, 03:44 PM

I'm interested in the 747 so far. However, if it has the highly reflective glass screen, I may have to reconsider other options.
This is precisely the reason I haven't bought plasmas yet and waiting for LCD.

Kirwin · 07-13-06, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroChaos

i'm pretty sure the 542 has no glass. but the 742 and 747 will

When I finally made my decision in favor of LCD over plasma, it was because of two main reasons:

* Burn-in resistant
* Non reflective surface

Seems like Olevia is literally 'shooting themselves in the foot' for opting with glass on their 'high end' LCD panels.

Pete · 07-13-06, 06:03 PM

BroChaos,

Will the 742 and 747 have descrete IR?

BroChaos · 07-13-06, 06:53 PM

they should, and they should also have full rs-232 control.

skr8psko1021 · 07-14-06, 12:54 AM

Does this mean that we can plug in and contol an iPod, much like Samsung's new LCDs?
Samsung sells an rs-232 to dock connector which allows you to see the ipod interface on the TV. Please confirm this BroChaos. And pictures would be amazing!

I don't know if I can hold out any longer: I'm about to buy the Samsung LNS3251d. The web page people need to get on the ball! Potential customers are being lost!

lipcrkr · 07-14-06, 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirwin

When I finally made my decision in favor of LCD over plasma, it was because of two main reasons:

* Burn-in resistant
* Non reflective surface

Seems like Olevia is literally 'shooting themselves in the foot' for opting with glass on their 'high end' LCD panels.

You do realize LCD can and does burn in if not careful don't you?

Xcalibur_255 · 07-14-06, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by lipcrkr

You do realize LCD can and does burn in if not careful don't you?

No it can't. The image retention effect an LCD can experience (which requires extreme abuse to even provoke), is totally different from the burn-in effect phosphors experience through uneven wear. The liquid crystals in an LCD panel are completely immune to this kind of effect. The image retention on LCDs is and will always be a temporary and reversible effect.

BroChaos · 07-15-06, 02:23 PM

yeah, lcd's can have charge build up? i think thats what they call it.

gah, they messed up those specs on datavison....all the 3-series tv's are tunerless!!

Naylia · 07-15-06, 05:32 PM

i thought the specs looked too similar to the 5 series...so the 3 series is actually a monitor then, not a tv

goodtime11367 · 07-15-06, 07:39 PM

I have done some research on the 532h vs the 332h. It looks like the 532h uses ATI Xillian video processors while the 332 uses PixelWorks. Plus, the dimensions on the 332 are slightly larder than the 532. Does anyone now which one is better? Also, it looks like the iDea technology no longer is being used.

BroChaos · 07-16-06, 01:09 PM

yes, the 3 series are monitors only!

3 series all use pixelworks chipset.
5 series use a mtk chipset that uses ATI video processing.

LCD1080 · 07-16-06, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kirwin

When I finally made my decision in favor of LCD over plasma, it was because of two main reasons:
* Burn-in resistant
* Non reflective surface
Seems like Olevia is literally 'shooting themselves in the foot' for opting with glass on their 'high end' LCD panels.

I wouldn't be concerned about the reflectivity of the 7-series glass. They provide it with upgraded anti-reflective coatings that hopefully will obviate any potential problem:
http://news.ecoustics.com/bbs/messag...81/188920.html

BroChaos · 07-17-06, 11:10 AM

i still don't see why it needs it. i prefer the matte look myself, plus the glass is HEAVY.

rmb1035 · 07-17-06, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LCD1080

I wouldn't be concerned about the reflectivity of the 7-series glass. They provide it with upgraded anti-reflective coatings that hopefully will obviate any potential problem:
http://news.ecoustics.com/bbs/messag...81/188920.html

I have yet to see any "anti-reflective" coating that does a good job on any plasma or crt. They all look like mirrors to varying degrees. And most all of them advertise "anti-reflective" costings. Have you ever seen one that does a good job? If so, please let me know the mfr and model.

Yoda1 · 07-17-06, 11:55 AM

This ---- Syntax-Brillian's has developed two new patent-pending feature technologies that are included in the new Olevia Signature HDTVs. Big Picture Technology™ delivers up to 11% more of the digital broadcast image and up to 37% more of analog images without distortion so viewers can see more of the picture displayed on each side of the TV. Director's Image™ enables viewers to see realistic content in the same way that the director intended images to be displayed. Director’s Image features calibrated color temperature (6500 degreesK) at 2.2 gamma, red/green/blue gain controls and offsets, optimized gray scales, black level adjustment for NTSC and ATSC, full range contrast adjustment, color and tint colors for red/blue saturation and sharpness. ----- is what's caught my eye more than anything else about these sets. Sounds awesome. When are they shipping? And will Boscov's be carrying them? Too many questions!

LCD1080 · 07-17-06, 12:08 PM

Yeah I'm pretty excited about the Syntax 742i as well. I believe I read that they should be shipping toward the end of August. I've read comments from people at CES who saw this Syntax. They described its PQ as "film like" and were hunting for superlatives to describe it. The glass is a slight concern because I believe that the 742i will weigh about a hundred pounds or slightly more but I think I could live with that if the PQ is superior for SD as well as HD.

MastaMind · 07-17-06, 12:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yoda1

This ---- Syntax-Brillian's has developed two new patent-pending feature technologies that are included in the new Olevia Signature HDTVs. Big Picture Technology™ delivers up to 11% more of the digital broadcast image and up to 37% more of analog images without distortion so viewers can see more of the picture displayed on each side of the TV. Director's Image™ enables viewers to see realistic content in the same way that the director intended images to be displayed. Director’s Image features calibrated color temperature (6500 degreesK) at 2.2 gamma, red/green/blue gain controls and offsets, optimized gray scales, black level adjustment for NTSC and ATSC, full range contrast adjustment, color and tint colors for red/blue saturation and sharpness. ----- is what's caught my eye more than anything else about these sets. Sounds awesome. When are they shipping? And will Boscov's be carrying them? Too many questions!

The fact that is is "pre-calibrated" to 6500k is nice, but what's up with the Big Picture Technology? Is that their way of stating that there will be no overscan on the TV so that we can get 1:1 pixel mapping?

LCD1080 · 07-17-06, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MastaMind

what's up with the Big Picture Technology? Is that their way of stating that there will be no overscan on the TV so that we can get 1:1 pixel mapping?

That's a great question. I would love to connect a PC to the Syntax over HDMI @ 1920x1080 without encountering any overscan. None of the high end LCDs can do this yet.

wtr_wkr · 07-17-06, 12:19 PM

I was planning on buying one without seeing it. If it's got glass, I'll have to compare it to a Sharp.

bc2000y · 07-17-06, 01:44 PM

BroChaos,
Is it too late to reverse the decision on the glass to not use it?
It seems the market demand is for non-reflective screen.
By adding glass, it costs more, it weighs more, and most people hate it. Then why do it.
Thanks.

Naylia · 07-17-06, 04:04 PM

With all the glass bashing...I have to say that I prefer the glass on my LT42HVi. Aesthetically it is pleasing and I find that when the tv is on reflections are minimal.

Kirwin · 07-17-06, 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Naylia

With all the glass bashing...I have to say that I prefer the glass on my LT42HVi. Aesthetically it is pleasing and I find that when the tv is on reflections are minimal.

Since when is the expression of an opionion considered bashing?

I'm glad you have found an LCD panel with a reflective surface which is aesthetically pleasing to you. Not too many LCD manufacturers offer this rare feature... enjoy!

plschwartz · 07-17-06, 06:24 PM

Just saw the 537 at a price close to the 37HVS.
It looks good. But I wonder if the quality will be as good.
The older models used LG panels with s-ips. But I wonder who now is supplying the panel and what technology does it employ? I seem to remember that it will not be LG. How will the new panels compare

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bc2000y Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 36	Don't like highly reflective screen I'm interested in the 747 so far. However, if it has the highly reflective glass screen, I may have to reconsider other options. This is precisely the reason I haven't bought plasmas yet and waiting for LCD.

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Naylia HTPCer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 1,694	too bad there's no 7-series specs up

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LCD1080 Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 623	I don't see anything there for the new Syntax 1080P model (the 742i). All that's there is 5 series. Did I miss something?

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BroChaos Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 176	3 series and 5 series are coming out now. the ones that are listed in stock are actually correct. these literally just left the warehouse in the past few weeks. the 7 series model is still undergoing extensive testing, and will be for several more weeks. if they don't start putting up pics soon, i'm gonna have to go covert and snap a few with my cell phone :P

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BroChaos Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 176	i'm pretty sure the 542 has no glass. but the 742 and 747 will

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BroChaos Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 176	they should, and they should also have full rs-232 control.

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skr8psko1021 Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 31	Does this mean that we can plug in and contol an iPod, much like Samsung's new LCDs? Samsung sells an rs-232 to dock connector which allows you to see the ipod interface on the TV. Please confirm this BroChaos. And pictures would be amazing! I don't know if I can hold out any longer: I'm about to buy the Samsung LNS3251d. The web page people need to get on the ball! Potential customers are being lost!

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BroChaos Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 176	yeah, lcd's can have charge build up? i think thats what they call it. gah, they messed up those specs on datavison....all the 3-series tv's are tunerless!!

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Naylia HTPCer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 1,694	i thought the specs looked too similar to the 5 series...so the 3 series is actually a monitor then, not a tv

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goodtime11367 New Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1	I have done some research on the 532h vs the 332h. It looks like the 532h uses ATI Xillian video processors while the 332 uses PixelWorks. Plus, the dimensions on the 332 are slightly larder than the 532. Does anyone now which one is better? Also, it looks like the iDea technology no longer is being used.

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BroChaos Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 176	yes, the 3 series are monitors only! 3 series all use pixelworks chipset. 5 series use a mtk chipset that uses ATI video processing.

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BroChaos Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Posts: 176	i still don't see why it needs it. i prefer the matte look myself, plus the glass is HEAVY.

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Yoda1 AVS Special Member Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 1,123	This ---- Syntax-Brillian's has developed two new patent-pending feature technologies that are included in the new Olevia Signature HDTVs. Big Picture Technology™ delivers up to 11% more of the digital broadcast image and up to 37% more of analog images without distortion so viewers can see more of the picture displayed on each side of the TV. Director's Image™ enables viewers to see realistic content in the same way that the director intended images to be displayed. Director’s Image features calibrated color temperature (6500 degreesK) at 2.2 gamma, red/green/blue gain controls and offsets, optimized gray scales, black level adjustment for NTSC and ATSC, full range contrast adjustment, color and tint colors for red/blue saturation and sharpness. ----- is what's caught my eye more than anything else about these sets. Sounds awesome. When are they shipping? And will Boscov's be carrying them? Too many questions!

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LCD1080 Advanced Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 623	Yeah I'm pretty excited about the Syntax 742i as well. I believe I read that they should be shipping toward the end of August. I've read comments from people at CES who saw this Syntax. They described its PQ as "film like" and were hunting for superlatives to describe it. The glass is a slight concern because I believe that the 742i will weigh about a hundred pounds or slightly more but I think I could live with that if the PQ is superior for SD as well as HD.

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Naylia HTPCer Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Mountain View, CA Posts: 1,694	With all the glass bashing...I have to say that I prefer the glass on my LT42HVi. Aesthetically it is pleasing and I find that when the tv is on reflections are minimal.

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plschwartz Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 22	new syntax panel maker Just saw the 537 at a price close to the 37HVS. It looks good. But I wonder if the quality will be as good. The older models used LG panels with s-ips. But I wonder who now is supplying the panel and what technology does it employ? I seem to remember that it will not be LG. How will the new panels compare