Samsung 71' 1080P DLP HL-S7178W (owners)

nixon1978 · 07-18-06, 03:42 PM

Just bought the new Samsung 71' 1080P DLP HL-S7178W and can't wait to get it. Should be here tomorrow!

Suppose to be the 1st Samsung with both 1080P input and output...

Any comments on the picture or anything else?

bslep · 07-18-06, 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nixon1978

Just bought the new Samsung 71' 1080P DLP HL-S7178W and can't wait to get it. Should be here tomorrow!

Suppose to be the 1st Samsung with both 1080P input and output...

Any comments on the picture or anything else?

Where did you buy it from?

paxi · 07-18-06, 09:07 PM

Fantastic to see this thread started. Here's my initial questions:

1) Does this TV have the piano black finish like the 88 series or the black matte
2) Do you plan on getting this TV calibrated?
3) What stand are you going to use
4) Hopefully you will have you camera ready - let's see some pics!

Mr. Thompson · 07-18-06, 09:34 PM

Mine is scheduled to arrive tomorrow too. I should have some comments tomorrow evening.

bslep · 07-18-06, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by paxi

Fantastic to see this thread started. Here's my initial questions:

1) Does this TV have the piano black finish like the 88 series or the black matte
2) Do you plan on getting this TV calibrated?
3) What stand are you going to use
4) Hopefully you will have you camera ready - let's see some pics!

It appears to be gloss - a very nice looking TV.

http://www.samsung.com/Products/TV/D...7178_final.pdf

I'm trying to decide between this and the Mits 73831 (due in September) myself.

Rob Tomlin · 07-18-06, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nixon1978

Just bought the new Samsung 71' 1080P DLP HL-S7178W and can't wait to get it. Should be here tomorrow!

Suppose to be the 1st Samsung with both 1080P input and output...

Any comments on the picture or anything else?

Wow! Congrats, I didn't even realize they made a 71 foot screen!

Seriously, we will be looking forward to your comments.

Are these rear projection 1080p units still using the "wobulated" chips?

What is the MSRP? And when will Costco have these?

Chugga · 07-19-06, 12:23 AM

I just got the call today from the delivery service scheduling the delivery for friday. A little later then I had hoped but still happy to see it's finally on it's way. Got the TV stand in today though and have to put that together tomorrow.

DieselDan · 07-23-06, 06:24 AM

Any updates?

Maxx_75 · 07-24-06, 01:33 AM

I was at Magnolia AV today and talked to a salesman for a good while about this one. They have one in the back of the store but only the 56" was hooked up. He ran all of the #'s and he came up with 6,332.11 after tax, warr, stand, and delevery/set up. WOW. He gave me the impression that he had a couple hundred dollars of wiggle room but still that is a bit of scratch. The box is 24 3/4 D from what he says so I just barely have room to get it in I think. If not I am sure that it is a few inches skinnyer out of the box.

At this price I think I will pass. I have a friend who can get stuff wholesale and is checking on whether this is aval or not. He has gotten other Sammy DLP's resently but doesnt know if they have this big boy or not. If they do he says that they are generaly 30% off the retail so in this case 3,500 plus tax and some 3% charge for using my cc. Although if I go this route I wont be able to get a warr I dont think.

So at any rate I am mulling a few things over.......

AppliedVisual · 07-25-06, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bslep

I'm trying to decide between this and the Mits 73831 (due in September) myself.

FWIW, the Mits 73831 still uses the same 3-color wheel light engine design that's being used in their current 73" models. The only difference is a slight cabinet design change vs. the current 73827 and the ability to accept full 1080p60 input.

But anyway, now getting back on track... My 7178W shipped today, I'll post my impressions and whatnot when it gets here. Hopefully in the next few days -- FedEx Freight has it right now. I'm buying this TV sight-unseen, which has me questioning my own sensibility, but I think it will work out OK. Funny thing - I was #1 on TVA's powerbuy list for the 7178, but I changed my order to something else. Too bad, or else I would have already had my 71" of glory. Heh...

DieselDan · 07-25-06, 02:11 AM

cant wait for your review, i saw the 67 today and fell in love with it so i will be going with the 71

RayPaganJr · 07-25-06, 07:48 AM

The other sets I was concidering was the 6188 and the xrb2's coming out, but I'm getting tired of the wait, also price was a factor. Sony is too darned expensive. But what made up my mind was when I saw the 7178 playing Ultra Violet. It looked great.

AppliedVisual · 07-25-06, 12:59 PM

FedEx Freight just confirmed my delivery of the 7178W for thursday afternoon.

Ragnarok · 07-25-06, 02:20 PM

I'm in the same boat as so of you are. My living room almost requires me to get a set that's at least 70". What I'm wondering is what made you guys choose the Samsung over the other +70" sets? I know the 70" XBR2 is still unknown at this point but what about the other sets from Mits (73927) or the Toshiba (72MX196)?

I know Samsung makes a wonderful DLP but has anyone viewed any material on this set, or even better, done a side-by-side comparison with another brand?

Any experiences anyone else has had will help me make a decision. Also, I'm torn between these models and waiting for the new batch of +70" ers to arrive. Does anyone know when this will be or have any opinions in favor or against waiting?

BMELVIN · 07-25-06, 02:31 PM

I am in the same situatuion and looking to buy in the next couple of days or weeks depending upon what is out there, or what is coming in the next 2 or 3 weeks. Lets hear some comparisons out there with the 70 inch sets.

JimP · 07-25-06, 04:10 PM

BMELVIN

I believe the only 70" ish set that is currently out in the new ones is the Samsung. Neither the Mitsubishi nor the Sony are out so comparisons aren't possible.

ssmoore · 07-25-06, 04:12 PM

I just got mine today. It replaced my mits 65807 which I loved but needed extra HIDEF inputs to hook up my hd dvd and my direct tv h20. So far Im impressed, I was really scared it wouldnt match up to my mits but so far so good. Only prob im having is my dtv h20 box when hooked up thru hdmi the picture gos in and out. Tried my h20 from my bedroom and the same thing. So I hooked it up with componet and it works fine. The funny thing is I was thinking it would be my hddvd player that would give me probs but it works fine with the latest firmware thru hdmi. So far no rainbows at all.

steve

RayPaganJr · 07-25-06, 05:00 PM

The 70xbr2 will be here in the fall. With Sony's MSRP being what it is, there is no way I'll pay that amount of money. To me the 7178 is an attractive television and has a beautiful PQ about it. I haven't even seen one calibrated yet, but can only imagine. So far I'm leaning towards the Samsung.

Ragnarok · 07-25-06, 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayPaganJr

The 70xbr2 will be here in the fall. With Sony's MSRP being what it is, there is no way I'll pay that amount of money. To me the 7178 is an attractive television and has a beautiful PQ about it. I haven't even seen one calibrated yet, but can only imagine. So far I'm leaning towards the Samsung.

Where did you see the 7178?

BMELVIN · 07-25-06, 05:27 PM

ssmoore
How is the SD picture on the new set compare to your Mits 65 inch set?? I have the Pioneer 64 inch CRT Rear projector " HUGE " and it does a great job of conversion for SD picture, but the glare on that set is like a Plasma screen, so I am looking at upgrading and getting a bigger screen also. My wife still watches a lot of SD cable tv {Lifetime, etc ) so the new set has to be just as good for Standard definiton channels as the old TV picture or I am going to hear abou it. Can you comment??

sliderhss · 07-25-06, 08:59 PM

Hello HL-S7178W owners....

I am on the fence between the HL-S7178W and waiting for the 70XBR2.

Please post impressions of your awesome new sets.

Things like:

1) Standard Definition Video quality. (It is understood that HD will be great, but what about SD?)
2) Screen characteristics... How does it perform in bright rooms with a lot of sunlight? Are there any annoying reflections on the screen?
3) Quietness of operation. Any motors or powersupply noise.
4) Quality and speed of user interface menus
5) Speed of channel changing
6) Sound quality, volume, fidelity, soundstage
7) Etc..

Thank you,

Howard Stockdale

ssmoore · 07-25-06, 09:36 PM

After using the set some more I can honestly say the sd pic is a little better than my mits but mind you I dont use stretch I piller box it. The sound is also better than my mits as my wife and I always had a hard time with dialogue. I watched some of 16 blocks and noticed more color in scenes that seemed dull before. With my mits if I turned the color up to look like the sammy flesh seemed to turn red. As far as noise is concerned I havent noticed any noise but I will try to listen to it more closely and report back. I waited a full year for the true 1080p sets to come out. I had my heart set on the new sony 70in but in the end the $7000 retail price even if discounted by as much as $2000 it would have still been more than this sammy. It definetly is a big improvement as far as glare is concerned.

steve

RayPaganJr · 07-25-06, 09:53 PM

There were two places that have the 7178w here in my area, Best Buy and BrandsMart. The one at BrandsMart looked better with the Blu-Ray, but the feed for SD looked pretty good at BB. They had on Law and Order from TNT.

RayPaganJr · 07-25-06, 09:58 PM

I seen a nice looking t.v. stand, BDI Deploy Max. Gloss black with silver glass. I found it to be quite a bit over what I want to spend on a stand. Any ideas for a t.v. stand for the 7178, other than the that accompanies it from Samsung?

paxi · 07-25-06, 09:59 PM

Any early owners *not* using the accompanying TR71 Stand? I looks like the shelf is too small for my center speaker so I was looking for a different option (hopefully black to match). I found a Sanus stand but the depth is listed at 20" (about 4" overhang out the back). Dumb idea? suggestions (don't want to mount the center)

RayPaganJr · 07-25-06, 10:01 PM

I don't know what the dimensions are for the BDI, but check it out for yourself. I think it looks great together.

paxi · 07-25-06, 10:06 PM

That was weird - same exact post within 1 minute. Thanks for the suggestion. The name of the Sanus was the low boy (sorry forgot the model number)

JakesPop · 07-26-06, 09:52 AM

I saw one of these this weekend at BB/Magnolia, and thought it looked terrific. I did not have time to sample through various sources, and am really going to need to see it handle sports before I venture forth -- anything to report there yet?

I was going to go with a 60" set for my new basement home theater room, but the set up looks like we will be sitting at 13 feet or so away, and at that distance, 60" did not not seem to be enough. The wife, however, is quite concerned about having a monstrosity in the house. Me -- what me worry? Still working on it.

Was looking at/waiting for the Sonys, but no PIP on the A2000's, and do not want to wait for the XBR2's, nor do I want to consider a step up in price for the 70".

Having my contractor put in a built in wall unit, so do not need a stand.

Impressions on the set folks? Any RBE during sports? SD?

JimP · 07-26-06, 12:20 PM

Would one of the 7178 owners who has either Avia or DVE, put up a convergence pattern (preferably the white lines over black) to check for chromatic abberations (color fringing around white lines) and geometry(streight lines). Be sure to use the pattern for widescreen so you can check the corners of the set.

Its been posted over in the HLS main thread that the 61" models have geometry issues that show up mostly on the 4:3 programs, but it doesn't seem to show up as much on othe size sets in the HLS series, not including the 71".

Thanks in advance.

RayPaganJr · 07-26-06, 10:16 PM

Would any owners post pix of their setup please. It would be nice to get some ideas. My main concern is replacing my wall unit, which is pretty nice. I may have to go to a carpenter to make me wider bridges to accomodate a 71".

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nixon1978 New Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 2	Samsung 71' 1080P DLP HL-S7178W (owners) Just bought the new Samsung 71' 1080P DLP HL-S7178W and can't wait to get it. Should be here tomorrow! Suppose to be the 1st Samsung with both 1080P input and output... Any comments on the picture or anything else?

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Maxx_75 AVS Special Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Algona, WA Posts: 1,000	I was at Magnolia AV today and talked to a salesman for a good while about this one. They have one in the back of the store but only the 56" was hooked up. He ran all of the #'s and he came up with 6,332.11 after tax, warr, stand, and delevery/set up. WOW. He gave me the impression that he had a couple hundred dollars of wiggle room but still that is a bit of scratch. The box is 24 3/4 D from what he says so I just barely have room to get it in I think. If not I am sure that it is a few inches skinnyer out of the box. At this price I think I will pass. I have a friend who can get stuff wholesale and is checking on whether this is aval or not. He has gotten other Sammy DLP's resently but doesnt know if they have this big boy or not. If they do he says that they are generaly 30% off the retail so in this case 3,500 plus tax and some 3% charge for using my cc. Although if I go this route I wont be able to get a warr I dont think. So at any rate I am mulling a few things over....... __________________ "My ignorance amuses me." .......Manfred Powell Blu-Ray = 381 HD DVD = 1 My Collection

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BMELVIN Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 194	I am also looking for a 70 inch + set I am in the same situatuion and looking to buy in the next couple of days or weeks depending upon what is out there, or what is coming in the next 2 or 3 weeks. Lets hear some comparisons out there with the 70 inch sets.

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sliderhss Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 73	HL-S7178W performance critiques Hello HL-S7178W owners.... I am on the fence between the HL-S7178W and waiting for the 70XBR2. Please post impressions of your awesome new sets. Things like: 1) Standard Definition Video quality. (It is understood that HD will be great, but what about SD?) 2) Screen characteristics... How does it perform in bright rooms with a lot of sunlight? Are there any annoying reflections on the screen? 3) Quietness of operation. Any motors or powersupply noise. 4) Quality and speed of user interface menus 5) Speed of channel changing 6) Sound quality, volume, fidelity, soundstage 7) Etc.. Thank you, Howard Stockdale

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RayPaganJr Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 190	Would any owners post pix of their setup please. It would be nice to get some ideas. My main concern is replacing my wall unit, which is pretty nice. I may have to go to a carpenter to make me wider bridges to accomodate a 71".

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paxi Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 514	Fantastic to see this thread started. Here's my initial questions: 1) Does this TV have the piano black finish like the 88 series or the black matte 2) Do you plan on getting this TV calibrated? 3) What stand are you going to use 4) Hopefully you will have you camera ready - let's see some pics!

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Mr. Thompson Member Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 88	Mine is scheduled to arrive tomorrow too. I should have some comments tomorrow evening.

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Chugga Member Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 22	I just got the call today from the delivery service scheduling the delivery for friday. A little later then I had hoped but still happy to see it's finally on it's way. Got the TV stand in today though and have to put that together tomorrow.

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DieselDan Want To Learn Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mass Posts: 60	Any updates?

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DieselDan Want To Learn Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Mass Posts: 60	cant wait for your review, i saw the 67 today and fell in love with it so i will be going with the 71

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RayPaganJr Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 190	The other sets I was concidering was the 6188 and the xrb2's coming out, but I'm getting tired of the wait, also price was a factor. Sony is too darned expensive. But what made up my mind was when I saw the 7178 playing Ultra Violet. It looked great.

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AppliedVisual Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 128	FedEx Freight just confirmed my delivery of the 7178W for thursday afternoon.

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Ragnarok A/V Aficionado Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 631	I'm in the same boat as so of you are. My living room almost requires me to get a set that's at least 70". What I'm wondering is what made you guys choose the Samsung over the other +70" sets? I know the 70" XBR2 is still unknown at this point but what about the other sets from Mits (73927) or the Toshiba (72MX196)? I know Samsung makes a wonderful DLP but has anyone viewed any material on this set, or even better, done a side-by-side comparison with another brand? Any experiences anyone else has had will help me make a decision. Also, I'm torn between these models and waiting for the new batch of +70" ers to arrive. Does anyone know when this will be or have any opinions in favor or against waiting?

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JimP Average Guy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Wetumpka, AL Posts: 10,932	BMELVIN I believe the only 70" ish set that is currently out in the new ones is the Samsung. Neither the Mitsubishi nor the Sony are out so comparisons aren't possible.

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ssmoore Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: jackson, mi Posts: 32	I just got mine today. It replaced my mits 65807 which I loved but needed extra HIDEF inputs to hook up my hd dvd and my direct tv h20. So far Im impressed, I was really scared it wouldnt match up to my mits but so far so good. Only prob im having is my dtv h20 box when hooked up thru hdmi the picture gos in and out. Tried my h20 from my bedroom and the same thing. So I hooked it up with componet and it works fine. The funny thing is I was thinking it would be my hddvd player that would give me probs but it works fine with the latest firmware thru hdmi. So far no rainbows at all. steve

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RayPaganJr Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 190	The 70xbr2 will be here in the fall. With Sony's MSRP being what it is, there is no way I'll pay that amount of money. To me the 7178 is an attractive television and has a beautiful PQ about it. I haven't even seen one calibrated yet, but can only imagine. So far I'm leaning towards the Samsung.

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BMELVIN Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 194	ssmoore How is the SD picture on the new set compare to your Mits 65 inch set?? I have the Pioneer 64 inch CRT Rear projector " HUGE " and it does a great job of conversion for SD picture, but the glare on that set is like a Plasma screen, so I am looking at upgrading and getting a bigger screen also. My wife still watches a lot of SD cable tv {Lifetime, etc ) so the new set has to be just as good for Standard definiton channels as the old TV picture or I am going to hear abou it. Can you comment??

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ssmoore Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: jackson, mi Posts: 32	After using the set some more I can honestly say the sd pic is a little better than my mits but mind you I dont use stretch I piller box it. The sound is also better than my mits as my wife and I always had a hard time with dialogue. I watched some of 16 blocks and noticed more color in scenes that seemed dull before. With my mits if I turned the color up to look like the sammy flesh seemed to turn red. As far as noise is concerned I havent noticed any noise but I will try to listen to it more closely and report back. I waited a full year for the true 1080p sets to come out. I had my heart set on the new sony 70in but in the end the $7000 retail price even if discounted by as much as $2000 it would have still been more than this sammy. It definetly is a big improvement as far as glare is concerned. steve

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RayPaganJr Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 190	There were two places that have the 7178w here in my area, Best Buy and BrandsMart. The one at BrandsMart looked better with the Blu-Ray, but the feed for SD looked pretty good at BB. They had on Law and Order from TNT.

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RayPaganJr Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 190	I seen a nice looking t.v. stand, BDI Deploy Max. Gloss black with silver glass. I found it to be quite a bit over what I want to spend on a stand. Any ideas for a t.v. stand for the 7178, other than the that accompanies it from Samsung?

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paxi Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 514	Any early owners not using the accompanying TR71 Stand? I looks like the shelf is too small for my center speaker so I was looking for a different option (hopefully black to match). I found a Sanus stand but the depth is listed at 20" (about 4" overhang out the back). Dumb idea? suggestions (don't want to mount the center)

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RayPaganJr Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pembroke Pines, Florida Posts: 190	I don't know what the dimensions are for the BDI, but check it out for yourself. I think it looks great together.

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paxi Advanced Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 514	That was weird - same exact post within 1 minute. Thanks for the suggestion. The name of the Sanus was the low boy (sorry forgot the model number)

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JakesPop New Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 11	I saw one of these this weekend at BB/Magnolia, and thought it looked terrific. I did not have time to sample through various sources, and am really going to need to see it handle sports before I venture forth -- anything to report there yet? I was going to go with a 60" set for my new basement home theater room, but the set up looks like we will be sitting at 13 feet or so away, and at that distance, 60" did not not seem to be enough. The wife, however, is quite concerned about having a monstrosity in the house. Me -- what me worry? Still working on it. Was looking at/waiting for the Sonys, but no PIP on the A2000's, and do not want to wait for the XBR2's, nor do I want to consider a step up in price for the 70". Having my contractor put in a built in wall unit, so do not need a stand. Impressions on the set folks? Any RBE during sports? SD?

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JimP Average Guy Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Wetumpka, AL Posts: 10,932	Would one of the 7178 owners who has either Avia or DVE, put up a convergence pattern (preferably the white lines over black) to check for chromatic abberations (color fringing around white lines) and geometry(streight lines). Be sure to use the pattern for widescreen so you can check the corners of the set. Its been posted over in the HLS main thread that the 61" models have geometry issues that show up mostly on the 4:3 programs, but it doesn't seem to show up as much on othe size sets in the HLS series, not including the 71". Thanks in advance.